Monday a.m. things

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 30, 2008 9:57 AM CDT

I liked that game yesterday. I could get used to some more of those.

Richard Durrett has some Kinsler love, as Ian Kinsler has been tearing it up lately. And Kevin Sherrington has some Eric Hurley love.

Kason Gabbard is going to have an MRI on his elbow, which he says has been hurting him for a couple of weeks. Lack of command is one of the symptoms of ligament damage, so you have to be concerned about what the possibilities here are.

And Anthony Andro talks about the rookies coming up and performing in the last few weeks...

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it seems a bit crazy

but despite the incredible years that Hamilton and Bradley have put forth, a case could be made for Ian Kinsler as the team’s MVP. Comparing Hamilton to Kinsler straight up, Kinsler actually has a higher average and more XBHs at this point. The extra home runs boost Hamilton’s OPS up over Kinsler’s, but Ian also sports that impressive 20 SBs to 1 CS on the year.

Still, I would have loved to have that half a year of Larry Walker.

John Hart was a tool.

by clark on Jun 30, 2008 10:03 AM CDT 1 recs

Thank God

The Larry Walker for Kinsler trade didn’t happen

by Monkey Brain on Jun 30, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up 0 recs

Yep

by zywica on Jun 30, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

...also sporting the highest number of boneheaded errors in the field...

by oc on Jun 30, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up 0 recs

My Gosh!

Another “hidden” injury? Gabby you are a dumbass…

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by Rodney on Jun 30, 2008 10:03 AM CDT 0 recs

Is this the vulcan grip?

Clearly not a fastball. Looks a little like a fork ball or split-fingered fastball grip.

Gotta like the MJ coming out in Hurley.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jun 30, 2008 10:07 AM CDT 0 recs

splitter

= meastliness

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 30, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up 0 recs

nice rack.

by corbsclinton on Jun 30, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up 0 recs

It's a 4-seam fastball

A split/fork grip wouldn’t be across the seams like that. Plus, I don’t think he throws one.

by Baider on Jun 30, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up 0 recs

No

IMHO, if it were a FB he would probably have his index finger and middle finger behind the ball. I vote for a changeup.

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by RangerMad on Jun 30, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up 0 recs

I think the fingers are spread too wide for a fastball grip.

Could be a splitter, but he’s holding the ball too close too his palm, I think. Looks like some sort of change to me.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jun 30, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up 0 recs

He doesn't throw a splitter

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by jparks77 on Jun 30, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up 0 recs

Too easy

Vulcan CU.

by Rodney on Jun 30, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up 0 recs

I thought the Vulcan would have a wider grip.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jun 30, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up 0 recs

Well

he doesn’t throw a split or fork ball, so I was using my ~~enormous~~ powers of deductive reasoning. I feel at least 1% correct…

by Rodney on Jun 30, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

Q from Lucas' NMLR farm report

I hope Main has pitched his last game in AZL. If he has the stamina to go 5 innings, I highly doubt he needs to be in AZL to get the most out of his 5 innings.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jun 30, 2008 10:12 AM CDT 0 recs

Definitely

One of the studs in Clinton can move up to Bakersfield to make room for Main. I don’t know, though, who in Bakersield you move to make room for the promotion…

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jun 30, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up 0 recs

I would think Reed

is the most justifiable. He has pitched better of late and held his own in a spot start in Frisco earlier this year. Kiker, Phillips, and Poveda all need more time, and Hyatt has faltered of late.

by clark on Jun 30, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up 0 recs

I don't know about that

Reed has been far from dominant and I think he needs more time. Hyatt could move back to the bullpen I suppose.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jun 30, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up 0 recs

Hyatt...

his #’s aren’t great but they are ok. Plus he’s 24 so he’s not really a “prospect”.

Kiker, Reed, and Phillips just aren’t ready yet.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 30, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up 0 recs

Yep

If Hyatt isn’t ready for a promotion, he can be the long guy. Main needs to go into the Clinton roto one way or another and Hyatt does not need to stand in the way of that.

by zywica on Jun 30, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up 0 recs

Holland is definitely due for a promotion and

had enough innings last year that he should have the stamina to push his season a little longer at a higher level.

Feliz could use more time at a lower league to work on his change, it appears from his last outing. He can’t be too far away from slowing down on his innings.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jun 30, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up 0 recs

Gabbard

Im gonna go ahead and close the book on him. He had his chance, he is now dead to me. I say DFA and forced elbow break from JD wearing the terminator sunglasses.

Mendoza, your time is now.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 30, 2008 10:25 AM CDT 0 recs

you closed the book on feldman about 16 months too early

so I’m gonna go ahead and keep the book open on gabbard. he’s a lefty who can locate sometimes. With confidence, he could develop into a good reliever (LOOGY)

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by ab03 on Jun 30, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up 0 recs

+1

Thats what I see him turning into. Another John Rheinecker type.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 30, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up 0 recs

Oh Boy!

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 30, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up 0 recs

2nd fact

ab you are wrong, about everything.

This only supports my theory that Gabbard is done.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 30, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up 0 recs

you don't have a 1st fact

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by ab03 on Jun 30, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up 0 recs

hehe

pwned, he was!

by Rodney on Jun 30, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up 0 recs

So...

Gabbard sucks, some people here say Murphy is a 4th OF. Engel Beltre is years away. How was the Gagne deal that great of a steal?

by Agreen07 on Jun 30, 2008 10:31 AM CDT 0 recs

Did you watch Gagne...

pitch last year with Boston or this year with the Brew Crew?

Those two have already produced enough to call that deal a steal even if they don’t ever play again imo.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 30, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up 0 recs

Seriously?

Really? You’d rather have Gagne on our team right now? He would contribute more than even Murphy by himself? But I do suppose Gagne has a brighter future than Gabbard… Gabbard is really washed up and trying to re-capture his glory days. Oh wait, that was Gagne, who we only had under contract for a few more months during a losing year…

by benjihana on Jun 30, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up 0 recs

I didn't say I would rather have Gagne on our team

but if you could get a Max Ramirez type prospect for Kenny Lofton, surely you could have gotten someone close to that for Gagne.

by Agreen07 on Jun 30, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up 0 recs

Right

His name is Engel Beltre.

by zywica on Jun 30, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up 0 recs

I hope that's true

but we won’t know that for a while.

by Agreen07 on Jun 30, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up 0 recs

If you're going to use that logic

then Ramirez hasn’t proven what he is either. Beltre has loads of talent. He’s a quality asset.

by zywica on Jun 30, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up 0 recs

Well Ramirez

is a top 10 hitter in the minors this year..

by Agreen07 on Jun 30, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up 0 recs

So?

So is Nelson Cruz.

by zywica on Jun 30, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up 0 recs

So?

by Agreen07 on Jun 30, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up 0 recs

If that point

doesn’t seem applicable to you, I’m not sure what you’re arguing.

by zywica on Jun 30, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up 0 recs

me either...

by Agreen07 on Jun 30, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up 0 recs

hahaha

Iron Mike Tyson works out at my gym.

He's a pretty good boxer.

by LAMuscleFag on Jun 30, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

this is a completely incorrect analysis

just because the lofton deal is turning into a ridiculous win, doesn’t mean a gagne deal that nets your future All-Star CF isn’t also good.

In terms of prospects, we got a prospect that was way way better than max ramirez when we traded gagne. Maybe you disagree with the way that the rest of the MLB values prospects, but there’s no question that Beltre was higher touted. And, he’s not that far off either.

Couple that with the fact that you got a solid ML contributor in Murphy, and this deal is a solid win. Murphy might be a 4th OF, but he’s a damn good one. More 3.5 than 4. Can play all three positions and solid against right handers isn’t something you can always find in FA.

But, the trade was for beltre. Gabbard and murphy were just throw-ins that had a chance of panning out

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by ab03 on Jun 30, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up 0 recs

I'm just saying i think the lofton deal was a much bigger win

by Agreen07 on Jun 30, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up 0 recs

oh

well, that could end up being the case. Ramirez could end up being a ridiculous steal. It’s a little hard to quantify right now because he took a gigantic leap in development this year.

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by ab03 on Jun 30, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

Huh?

Murphy, even as a 4th outfielder, has good value as a reasonable bat with good defense. Gabbard gave the club many more good innings than I expected, and to me he’s the throw in, a lefty they hoped might do ok in RBIA. Beltre has years to go, but he hasn’t gotten any less talented.

That trade would have been good even without Beltre, considering how Gagne was leveraged and then fell apart afterward. A good example of trading at exactly the right time.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jun 30, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up 0 recs

I would have traded him too

but our return really wasn’t that great.

by Agreen07 on Jun 30, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up 0 recs

I think Beltre...

could be very good. He’s still very young, but just the chance of him hitting his ceiling made me excited about that deal.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 30, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up 0 recs

Yes it was

Beltre is a ridiculously good prospect with a ceiling higher than every player in the package combined.

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by jparks77 on Jun 30, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up 0 recs

Wow

you are seriously the only person who thinks that. Everyone in Boston thinks they got raped.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jun 30, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

question

upset with what hurley is doing?

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by ab03 on Jun 30, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up 0 recs

heh

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by Chase Irwin on Jun 30, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

Funny comment from Norm

Boston has more payroll on their DL than the Rangers’ entire payroll.

by zywica on Jun 30, 2008 10:59 AM CDT 0 recs

wow....

thats crazy..

by clinton33 on Jun 30, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up 0 recs

Norm...

the only guy on the ticket that discusses Rangers in depth. Him and Bad Radio.

by Agreen07 on Jun 30, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up 0 recs

I wish that...

Saturday’s game was blacked out and I got to see Hurley and Davis yesterday. I’m sure every Sunday I don’t get the game something nice will happen.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 30, 2008 11:10 AM CDT 0 recs

Two things:

1- Ho wmany times have the roughriders stolen home? It seems like in every game recap I read about another steal of home. This is great but I’m just unsure of why this is? Is it something they always do in the minors to take advantage of inexperienced pitchers and third basemen(not holding the runner on)?

2-Yesterday, around 4:40pm, we had radio gold. It occurred on the Rangers pregame show with Nadel talking to Wash. This is roughly what transpired…...

Nadel- Ron, what do you tell young guys like Davis and Ramirez going into a game against a guy like Moyer?

Ron- Well , 1st I tell them that he wont be putting the fast ball by them…but at the same time they cant just go up there thinking they can sit on the fastball, because if you think that way Moyer will just “jack you off”. BaD Radio must get there hands on this. The audio was crystal clear…no mispeak, it was spoken with conviction….pure greatness.

Please forgive any and all typos, mispellings, etc.
Your kindess in this matter is appreciated.

by red shoe ranger on Jun 30, 2008 11:49 AM CDT 0 recs

LOL

I heard this on the way back home, and I couldn’t believe he actually said that. I wonder what Nadel was thinking when Wash said that.

by Salman on Jun 30, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up 0 recs

x

by Inkara1 on Jun 30, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

Classic.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 30, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up 0 recs

Think that guy got fired?

by Agreen07 on Jun 30, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up 0 recs

I heard that too!

lol

by Rodney on Jun 30, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up 0 recs

I still

need feedback on Frisco stealing home every other game….

Maybe they dont steal home that often but damn it seems like it….

Please forgive any and all typos, mispellings, etc.
Your kindess in this matter is appreciated.

by red shoe ranger on Jun 30, 2008 12:16 PM CDT 0 recs

this year

does it seem to y’all that the Rangers seem to put a minor league team on the field year after year? I am pleased to see these guys and I think they can help but I just seem to remember people talking about how the Rangers are a minor league team.

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by horsedooty on Jun 30, 2008 2:23 PM CDT 0 recs