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Wednesday morning things

The win last night avoided a mini-crisis with the bullpen struggles, but the next few days are going to be a struggle, with the shape the pen is in and the opposing starters on the horizon. Plus there's Sidney Ponson starting on short rest today, as Mike Heika chronicles (Heika is blogging up a storm , btw).

Hank Blalock was on the field yesterday, but he's still a ways off.

The Star Telegram profiles possible first round pick Andrew Cashner . I can't get excited about Cashner at #11, and most rankings have him in the 20's. Someone enticing seems to fall to the Rangers in most mock drafts, so it will be interesting to see whether an Eric Hosmer or Aaron Crow or Brian Matusz does somehow slide to eleven and whether the Rangers are up to the challenge of that player's contract demands.

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No way

Hosmer falls to us, isn’t he locked into 6 at the Marlins?

Nobody should ever get excited about a reliever with a 11th pick.

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 4, 2008 8:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Draft

if any of those 3 fall, i’ll be very disappointed if the rangers don’t draft them.
even though they passed on porcello last year, i think it had more to do with the fact that they really liked beavan.

"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum

by rentz on Jun 4, 2008 9:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Garenteeing

a spot on the 40 man roster is just dumb, thats why all those teams passed on Porcello.

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 4, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

40man

I agree a big league deal to a hs kid is kind of dumb, i can understand it more for a college player though.
but then again, if a guy like bruce came along and demanded a ml deal in the draft i’d sure as hell give it to him

"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum

by rentz on Jun 4, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Porcello

They also passed on him at 24 and took Maine. I can see why last year they may have been more hesitant to hand out a huge bonus due to the amount of total first day picks they had. This year with just having 1 first rounder and no supplemental I see no reason why we can’t go over slot to sign an elite talent that falls.

White Women!

by nikpin on Jun 4, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum

by rentz on Jun 4, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed.

if Porcello was a collegiate pitcher, I’d think very hard about that 40 man addition…but as a HS pitcher, how much better can he really be than Main and Beavan? is he a “sure thing?”

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 4, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

stuff

- you know, even if I had no problem moving blalock to 1b… what exactly is the advantage of saying its permanent?
meanwhile vazquez is 1 for his last 13 and metcalf 0 for the year.

- i have no idea at all if ponson will miraculously go 8 ip or if he will leave after 2. ive got no clue with this guy.

- cashner doesnt sound too bad to me. if hosmer and such drops to us the rangers better step up, but the difference between cashner and whats at 11 if those guys dont drop doesnt upset me too much. not exactly rooting for him to be selected though.

i really hope we dont pass on someone for signability though. that annoys me more than anything.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DShep on Jun 4, 2008 9:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Cashner = 7/8th inning guy.

Yawn.

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 4, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

#11

i have a problem with cashner at 11, other guys will likely be there such as martin, hicks, wallace, cole all of which i’d rather see taken that high over him

"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum

by rentz on Jun 4, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

well ill admit

ive only really skimmed the draft articles so far.

probably just dont know enough about the other guys.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DShep on Jun 4, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Podcast

I just finished the latest podcast, and the thing that jumped out at me is that somebody mentioned that several mock drafts have Cashner going in the 20’s. A difference of roughly ten spots between the Rangers’ pick and when Cashner is expected to go tells me all I need to know.

P.S. – Keith Law will be doing a chat at 2:00 EDT today if you want to ask some draft questions.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Jun 4, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Please God Please

give the Rangers the wisdom to draft payers that have high ceilings and will help this organization for a long time.

OK, a tad bit blasphemous praying for a local sports team. I am just hoping the rangers do not panic becasue of the recent big league performance, grab a local guy just because he’s local, or pass on someone because he wants big bucks to sign. I hope they grab the best high ceiling guy and hope he is turns into the next Teixiera. I’d use a SP example of a guy drafted, reached the bigs and suceeded only to be traded away, but I could not think of a Ranger pitcher since Kenny Rogers.

by Bigfan16 on Jun 4, 2008 9:21 AM CDT reply actions  

late posting a reply on this...

but I laugh at Rangers fans (although I must admit I have morphed into one). Why do you even care about the draft? and the possibility one of those kids will turn into the next Mark Texeira????? Once he does, the Rangers will trade him away. I so totally agree with Bigfan16- get a high ceiling guy. And keep him. The team needs talent & personality & fan draw. Desperately. And I am all about praying. I prayed for Sidney first thing this morning. Sad, but true.

Archibald "Moonlight" Wright Graham was a real baseball player. On 29 June 1905, with the New York Giants, he played one Major League Baseball game. Five days later, he quit his dream of being a pro ball player to become a doctor.
"You know we just don't recognize the most significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, well, there'll be other days. I didn't realize that that was the only day."

by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 4, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno

At this point drafting someone who is close to ML ready might not be the worst thing.

I mean really take a hard look at our pitching staff, it is in drastic need of help. It needs a serious overhaul from top to bottom if we even want to consider attempting to compete. It is truly terrible.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 4, 2008 9:29 AM CDT reply actions  

well..

while i agree that getting someone closer to ml ready is good, i just dont like drafting for need.
i’d rather they take the best player available or the one with the best potential rather than a guy who can help faster

"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum

by rentz on Jun 4, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am right there with you

As long as they still consider themselves in “re-building” mode.

Just if they want to make a push at anything, I just hope they understand the work that would need to be done.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 4, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Draft Strategy

That is just a horrible draft strategy and one of the reasons the Yankees were god awful in the late 80’s and early 90’s. We need to draft BPA unless its a catcher regardless of contract demands.

White Women!

by nikpin on Jun 4, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was not so much a overall strategy

More of a onetime pick on someone who could help us right away. May not even have to be the first pick.

Just saying that the bullpen/rotation needs major help, and its worth looking at all possible resources.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 4, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Regardless

To get someone that can help you immediately, which is doubtful in itself, you’re going to have to use 1 of your top 2 choices on him. After that know one is going to have the talent to come in and impact your ML club.

White Women!

by nikpin on Jun 4, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

If it is someone who can help right away and he is good

he will be drafted in the top 10. If he is someone who can help right away but is not so good, then you don’t accomplish anything. Outside the very first few picks, it’s not easy to find someone who is a legitimate prospect that can help right away.

I think bullpen is a problem that can be solved through FA or minor trades in the off season.

by Telegraph on Jun 4, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cashner

isn’t close to being major league ready. His command is still a big question mark as is his secondary pitches.

by jparks77 on Jun 4, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can understand possibly passing on Hosmer...

If he wants an ML deal, I understand the issues the FO could have with giving up a 40 spot to a HS kid that’s 3-4 years off… Do I agree with it? Not necessarily, but I somewhat understand the logic…

But if Crow or Matusz, by some act of God, fall to 11, the Rangers have to bite regardless of cost, don’t they?

by N41D on Jun 4, 2008 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes

And the more i think about it, i’d take matusz over crow.

"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum

by rentz on Jun 4, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmm...

...reasonaing?

To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball

by ivysafety39 on Jun 4, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

i just prefer matusz, think he has a high upside

there’s no real reasoning to personal preference

"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum

by rentz on Jun 4, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

And incidentally

Kev Goldstein has us taking Crow in his latest mock. That’s pretty much my dream scenario.

by BudLight on Jun 4, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crow

Hard to believe he’d fall so far, but if Goldstein’s right about the guy wanting an “elite” ML contract then…

All you can hope is the Rangers are willing to step up with cash and a 40 spot. I think somebody’s going to fall.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 4, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

giving up our 2nd 40 spot

i guess borbon is working out better than expected but still

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on Jun 4, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure Crow

has the higher upside. Matusz is a lefty with three above average to plus pitches that projects to be a top of the rotation starter. Crow wants to be paid like he has the higher upside but I think that is very debatable.

by jparks77 on Jun 4, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matusz has a deeper arsenal

But his FB isn’t on par with Crow’s. Don’t get me wrong, I’d probably take Matusz if given a choice between the two, but Crow’s got ace potential. A terrific bread and butter pitch, a good slider, and a solid change with plus command and the potential for more. Whenever I hear analysts discuss Matusz, they project him as a #2 or 3 starter at the ML level.

by BudLight on Jun 4, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Friedrich

Why is he ranked below Crow if his numbers are so much stronger and he’s left-handed? Is it velocity? I get the impression Matusz elevates himself by having more pitches.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 4, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Velocity

command, level of competition.

Choose a reason, any reason.

by FirebatM3 on Jun 4, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's all about that "stuff"

Watch some video of Crow and Matusz, then Fred. Fred just doesn’t have the same stuff.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do you ask?

Does crack shrink your feet? ducks

I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.

by TheJeezus on Jun 4, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

i am not an expert on crack...

but hgh & steroids grow your skull, feet, & penis…and shrinks other things

Archibald "Moonlight" Wright Graham was a real baseball player. On 29 June 1905, with the New York Giants, he played one Major League Baseball game. Five days later, he quit his dream of being a pro ball player to become a doctor.
"You know we just don't recognize the most significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, well, there'll be other days. I didn't realize that that was the only day."

by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 4, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

grow your penis?

are you sure?

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on Jun 4, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes...had a boyfriend using hgh once

Archibald "Moonlight" Wright Graham was a real baseball player. On 29 June 1905, with the New York Giants, he played one Major League Baseball game. Five days later, he quit his dream of being a pro ball player to become a doctor.
"You know we just don't recognize the most significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, well, there'll be other days. I didn't realize that that was the only day."

by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 4, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, then

what are the “other things” it shrinks?

...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 4, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Balls.

eom.

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Jun 4, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whooaaa

The 100s of spam emails I get haven’t told me that. mr.add4inches@pleasure.com has been lying to me.

JD drinks the Angels milkshake.

by WyoRanger on Jun 4, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting
He dates regularly but will not be attending the senior prom. “I can’t have anything bad happen to me now,” he says. “If I’m put in an awkward situation … there’s too much on the line.”

JD drinks the Angels milkshake.

by WyoRanger on Jun 4, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

haven't you ever fallen from grace?

Archibald "Moonlight" Wright Graham was a real baseball player. On 29 June 1905, with the New York Giants, he played one Major League Baseball game. Five days later, he quit his dream of being a pro ball player to become a doctor.
"You know we just don't recognize the most significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, well, there'll be other days. I didn't realize that that was the only day."

by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 4, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

It’s just his comment seems prescient.

JD drinks the Angels milkshake.

by WyoRanger on Jun 4, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

too true

Archibald "Moonlight" Wright Graham was a real baseball player. On 29 June 1905, with the New York Giants, he played one Major League Baseball game. Five days later, he quit his dream of being a pro ball player to become a doctor.
"You know we just don't recognize the most significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, well, there'll be other days. I didn't realize that that was the only day."

by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 4, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's a kid...

hell Ponson used to be a kid…and now he’s clinging on to whatever he can

Archibald "Moonlight" Wright Graham was a real baseball player. On 29 June 1905, with the New York Giants, he played one Major League Baseball game. Five days later, he quit his dream of being a pro ball player to become a doctor.
"You know we just don't recognize the most significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, well, there'll be other days. I didn't realize that that was the only day."

by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 4, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions  

you know your career is in jepordy

when you are a strong part of the Rangers bullpen

Archibald "Moonlight" Wright Graham was a real baseball player. On 29 June 1905, with the New York Giants, he played one Major League Baseball game. Five days later, he quit his dream of being a pro ball player to become a doctor.
"You know we just don't recognize the most significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, well, there'll be other days. I didn't realize that that was the only day."

by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 4, 2008 12:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Getting very psyched

Sickels posted a “strong” rumor that Houston will take Dan Sclereth.

Goldstein at BP reports Cinci is looking at Canadian prep IF Lawrie.

BA’s draft blog is saying the Chi Sox might be in on Brett Wallace…or Castro.

That’s a full 3 spots ahead of Texas that could go very random.

Like that, like it plenty. Sort of reminds me of the NFL draft a few weeks back.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 4, 2008 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

NFL draft

pretty went as expected right?

by FirebatM3 on Jun 4, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the most part

I think the top shocker was the run on offensive linemen; Sam Baker and Duane Brown in the first round was very unexpected. There were other eyebrow-raisers, like Mendenhall dropping to the 20s and Henne and Brohm both lasting into the 60 range.
I’m going to make a wild-ass prediction and say that Alonso somehow lasts until 17 or 18.

by BudLight on Jun 4, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unpredictable

The O-linemen were more popular than projected, I didn’t think Jenkins would fall into the 20s, Mendenhall fell like a rock, and no WRs went til the 2nd.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 4, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Law chat

First he’s taken one of my questions:

JD, Arlington, TX: Who’m I taking?

SportsNation Keith Law: (2:43 PM ET ) My guess is best pitcher available, but I doubt you’d pass on a premium guy who falls, such as Alvarez.

Cause Alvarez is falling on all the mocks…

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=20912

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 4, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Heh

I thought he wasnt going to answer my question cause i asked it right after you apparently, but he did and me it was my first answer too. posted a fanpost about it, but apparently the cashner rumors were erroneous.

by rchawk12 on Jun 4, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

OMG, OMG, OMG

The only guy I like more than Hosmer is falling?

Wow.

As a 1b I think his ceiling is a little lower than Hosmer’s, but I’d still take him just cause of proximity. If he’s willing to put in the work to stay at third, he’ll be an absolute beast.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sarcasm...?

Are you talking about Alvarez?

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 4, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

No on sarcasm

Yes on Alvarez.

I like Pedro a lot. I think he’ll come very fast and I like that there’s not much risk there given his college pedigree.

Think: A more athletic Pat Burrell.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alvarez

Dude, he’s not falling.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know

neither is Hosmer.

But it’s still fun to dream.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope that Ponson on 3 days rest > Mathis, Murray, etc.

Ponson has plenty of experience rallying…. just not in regards to pitching.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 4, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

"No on Cashner" -Keith Law
Adam (Dallas, TX): “don’t think he’s high on Texas. “Do you mean hicks isnt high on texas or texas isnt high on him? Who do you think the Rangers pick at 11 and if it is cashner as some are predicting, do you think that is with the idea of stretching him out as a starter?

SportsNation Keith Law: (2:47 PM ET ) I meant “Texas’ list.” Sorry, been on and off the phone this whole time. The Rangers won’t take a pure reliever at 11, and I found out the Ryan seeing Cashner story was bogus. I’ve suggested Ethan Martin there, and I think if Friedrich is there they’d pop him. Not sure on Crow; I have a feeling Crow is headed for Houston. They want pitching, he’s a tough sign, but is advised by the Hendricks Brothers, who have done a few deals with Houston before.

Nice, so we officially get a “no” on Cashner.

But of course we get a yes on Friedrich, so that sucks.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Law on Murphy

Wes (Austin): Is David Murphy really a 4th outfielder? Name me 5 teams right now where he would not deserve to start. The guy is second in the AL in extra-base hits, as a rookie!

SportsNation Keith Law: (2:53 PM ET ) You’re right, let’s overweight two months of good-not-great performance in a raging hitter’s park. That seems like a good idea.

John (Tampa): Actually David Murphy is worse at home with OPS of .730 than away with a OPS of .803. Did you check your stats before you answered the question above?

SportsNation Keith Law: (2:59 PM ET ) Think about what you said. Adjust that home OPS down appropriately and consider what it would look like.

That second comment doesn’t actually make sense to me.

Erich (CT): You gotta be kidding me Law, your really going to downplay how Murphy’s been playing? You need to get off your high horse. If he’s playing well he’s playing well, who cares if he’s considered a “4th outfielder.” He’s given no reason for the Rangers to take him out of hte lineup. You analysts are too much.

SportsNation Keith Law: (3:05 PM ET ) Sorry, outfielders with OBPs in the .330s don’t excite me, and it’s not like he has big tools that make me think he’s going to develop into a better hitter. Nice player to have on your team, but if he’s playing every day for me in a corner outfield spot, I’m looking for a long-term upgrade.

Steve(rochester): I guess David Murphy comes from a large irish family that you’ve somehow offended. I’d kill to be a 4th outfielder type. Anyway, you have to admire the passion if not the intellect.

SportsNation Keith Law: (3:06 PM ET ) First time I’ve had someone in a chat try to question my intellect. Still haven’t had anyone do it successfully, though.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

overweight 2 months?

Using Adam’s grading scale, it appears that Murphy is a 60 bat. I mean if Cat is a 60 bat, and Murphy has been every bit the hitter, this year and last …

Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it

by DJCahill on Jun 4, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get this.

Keith Law comes across like a total jackass here. According to BR, RBiA has a multi-year park factor of 100 and a one-year park factor of 97. Raging hitter’s park? Nice cursory research.

I can agree with him that Murphy’s walk rate is lower than I’d like, but he’s slugging .475. Maybe he won’t continue to rake like this for the rest of the year, and I can understand being cautious, but Law’s statements don’t come across that way. Once again, more fantastic ESPN “analysis”.

by jwiscarson on Jun 4, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

do parks factor

al that much when it comes to doubles?

by OKC Ranger Fan on Jun 4, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

espn blows on their analysis

while holding three better versions of the one LeBron James…espn commentary put the Cavaliers over the Celtics…not because of true numbers, but because its easier to fudge crap about a player who is in the spotlight than actually produce FACTS…and we all know how that panned out.

Archibald "Moonlight" Wright Graham was a real baseball player. On 29 June 1905, with the New York Giants, he played one Major League Baseball game. Five days later, he quit his dream of being a pro ball player to become a doctor.
"You know we just don't recognize the most significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, well, there'll be other days. I didn't realize that that was the only day."

by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 4, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Park factors

that’s a pet peeve of mine, too. Everyone just says the RBIA is a hitters park, though it has been nearly neutral in recent years.

...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 4, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I officially hate Keith Law.

he always looked like a douchebag to me, but now he’s just proven he looks like one because he IS one.

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 4, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

right or wrong

he sounds like a jerk in those quotes.

and he also ignores that its 3 months, since he was better than this in september last year.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DShep on Jun 4, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess

Murphy messed around with his wife.

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 4, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Smoak fell to 11 (Which he won't)

I’d shit my pants. I would literally shit my pants.

Dan (Davis, CA): What are the odds of one of the top of the draft bats (Alvarez, Hosmer, Smoak, Alonso) dropping lower in the 1st round? Seems like we’re hearing less talk about signability issues this year.

SportsNation Keith Law: (2:54 PM ET ) I’ve heard Alonso to Florida, one of Alv/Hosmer to KC, and Smoak in a few mixes in the top 10. I don’t think any of those four falls farther than Texas at 11.

by cmkelly29 on Jun 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Alright

now theres a new reason to root for someone to drop.

by rchawk12 on Jun 4, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Florida

Just from the mocks, it seems like they’re going catcher.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 4, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aaron Hicks / Brett Wallace

Wouldn’t be disappointed with either of those players.

by cmkelly29 on Jun 4, 2008 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Neither would I

Both those guys are on my list.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just curious

I think you have a doppleganger in Milford, CT

by cmkelly29 on Jun 4, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

What!?

Someone is stealing my hobo-chic look?

Fight that guy the next time you see him, and when you’re done kicking his ass, tell him TheDirkatron sent you.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I went to your profile and followed the link to your myspace

I love how you signed your name as “Huntre” on your driver’s license when you were 16.

by Inkara1 on Jun 4, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Yah, that was pretty awesome.

I was so giddy I literally forgot how to sign my own name.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think if you shaved you would

bare a resemblance to Mark Wahlberg…or if he grew out his hair & a beard he would look like you

Archibald "Moonlight" Wright Graham was a real baseball player. On 29 June 1905, with the New York Giants, he played one Major League Baseball game. Five days later, he quit his dream of being a pro ball player to become a doctor.
"You know we just don't recognize the most significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, well, there'll be other days. I didn't realize that that was the only day."

by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 4, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I look exactly like the guy

who played (plays?) Lex Luther on that show Smallville.

We noticed it when he made a cameo on the wonderfulness that is “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia”. It’s creepy how much I look like that guy. He’s a little douchier looking, but we could still be twins. He’d just be the douchier twin is all.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

This guy?

I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.

by TheJeezus on Jun 4, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah

He doesn’t look so much like me there, though. Probably cause he’s so much older than me. I just imdb’d him and he’s 9 years older than me.

We could be brothers off that photo, but not twins.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, via post

your’e not that douchy

Archibald "Moonlight" Wright Graham was a real baseball player. On 29 June 1905, with the New York Giants, he played one Major League Baseball game. Five days later, he quit his dream of being a pro ball player to become a doctor.
"You know we just don't recognize the most significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, well, there'll be other days. I didn't realize that that was the only day."

by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 4, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dirkatron

gets pwned.

Yowza!

"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jun 4, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's quite the mop you have going...

definitely straight out of the 70’s, and yes, I am jealous.

my hair can only be short, I have learned…so boring

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 4, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wallace

ASU Pride…Devils are all over the place in MLB…he will be a very productive MLB hitter for a long time.

Go Devils!

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 4, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

it would rock

if WyoRanger looked like Canseco. I would definitely become a stalker.

Archibald "Moonlight" Wright Graham was a real baseball player. On 29 June 1905, with the New York Giants, he played one Major League Baseball game. Five days later, he quit his dream of being a pro ball player to become a doctor.
"You know we just don't recognize the most significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, well, there'll be other days. I didn't realize that that was the only day."

by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 4, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I do

Dark hair, just a bit thinner, a touch shorter, and a whole lot more Irish/German/Norwegian.

JD drinks the Angels milkshake.

by WyoRanger on Jun 4, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Personally

I want as many higher-end lefty pitchers as possible…if one of the top bats falls – Alvarez, Smoak, Hosmer – I’d take them in a heartbeat. If Matusz falls, I jump on him for sure. Next, I take Crow, Shooter Hunt, and then if I’m left to decide outside of those 6, I go with Alonso or Wallace, with Friedrich as my backup plan.

If we get one of those 5 bats, we’re set at 1B/3B in the minors for a few years down the road. If we get one of the top pitchers (not named Friedrich), we’ve got a potential future ace. If we end up with Friedrich, we’ve got a collegiate arm that can shoot up into the majors quicker than a HS arm, and a lefty curveball specialist that should do very well pitching in Arlington. And he’s got 4 pitches, with room to grow on 2 of them…

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 4, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Eiw on Shunt and Friedrich

Shunt sucks, and Friedrich just doesn’t have enough ceiling to me. Why spend the #11 overall pick on a guy who, if everything goes just exactly perfectly right, could possibly have the stuff to be a #3 starter?

Assuming none of the big boys falls, I’d much rather see us go with Martin, Hicks, Wallace or maybe even Florida HS lefty Brett DeVall, though I admit I love him way more than everyone else. He reminds me a lot of Danks. I’ve dubbed him Floridanks. Some team in the back half of the first round is going to be lucky to get him.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeVall

has some signability issues. Will probably go into the 1st Supplemental. Or about 2nd round, like where Brett Anderson went in 2006

by FirebatM3 on Jun 4, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be pretty upset if he went where Anderson went

cause it’d be 55th, and we pick 57th tomorrow.

If we got Floridanks in the 2nd I’d do naked cartwheels down the street.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Naked cartwheels...

is a very underrated form of exercise.

Plus you could always youtube it for LA/NYMF.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 4, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

you throw a lefty out there...

and I’m interested, I say we should look to the possibility of drafting him. call him Floridanks, and you’ve got me sold!

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 5, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cashner

I am not saying we should select him, but when did Street go in the draft, wasnt it pretty early in the first round, I have to be honest and say I have been a very bad Horned Frog and not been to any baseball games this year so I have no Idea if Street and Cashner even compare to one another. I think the only reason we would take him is we think he can be ready to pitch in Arlington next year. AGAIN I AM NOT SAYING I WOULD TAKE HIM so dont jump my ass about it. But if they are confident he could help out in a year or so then I would seriously consider it.

by blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Huston

1st Round Supplemental. About where we got Neil Ramirez. So no, not even close.

by FirebatM3 on Jun 4, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

And...

I don’t know for sure, but I think Street’s track record was quite a bit better.

by Topgun22 on Jun 4, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

a closer for a major college program. Consistent performer.

The only guy that I can remember that was taken that high as a reliever is Ryan Wagner

by FirebatM3 on Jun 4, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah

There are plenty of high picks who ended up as relievers, but not too many who were closers in college.

Moskos started some in college, though not all the time. Morrow is a reliever right now, but started his whole junior year at Cal.

Did Matt Anderson start in college? I can’t find his college stats.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anderson

If I remember correctly he did a little of both. Got to love those Rice pitchers.

White Women!

by nikpin on Jun 4, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

When is the

draft on tomorrow?

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 4, 2008 5:05 PM CDT reply actions  

2

o’clock

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops

forgot most of y’all are CTZ.

It’s 2 Eastern.

So you have to get up by 1, Miles.

The 40 trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks,

Thats going to be tough…

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 4, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet

ill be out of class by Noon…

Anyone know the interval between picks?

by laxtonto on Jun 4, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

5 minutes

for the first round and I believe the supplemental round as well.

after that i’m not sure, but i believe it is one minute.

by rchawk12 on Jun 4, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Draft

Is there tvants for it tomorrow?

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 5, 2008 1:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Scout.com

Reporting that Texas would have selected Gerrit Cole if Smoak hadn’t been there.

We just dodged a tremendous bullet.

by jamcadbury on Jun 5, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions  

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