Draft open thread
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 5, 2008 12:01 PM CDT
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Unlike last year, the Rangers don't have a ton of picks, and I'm whipped (and kind of busy) today, so I'm just going to open up this thread for draft talk, and will add my thoughts, and updates on the Rangers picks, periodically as the day goes on.
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So I'm guessing the real action is going to start with the third pick
With Beckham logged in to Tampa at 1 and Alvarex pretty much set in stone to Pitt at 2….
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I think it was BA that said
that Alvarez had to be available for Pittsburgh, because if he wasn’t no one in that office would have any idea what to do. It’d be funny if TB picked Alvarez, and the Pittsburgh just kept saying over and over “we pick Pedro Alvarez,” refusing to accept that he wasn’t available.
by JBImaknee on Jun 5, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
When does this thing actually start?
I thought it was 11am CST. MLB’s tracker isn’t running yet.
I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler
1PM CST
Negro League draft going right now….
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
What's it supposed to be?
Too little, too late.
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
So who did we get?
hopefully a reliever who can step in right away, i dont care if he’s black and 85 years old. ill take any help we can get.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
I was thinking...
Find our long term solution at 3B in the Negro League. Opens up more flexibility in the draft.
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
id go for that too
heh, “now batting for the texas rangers, Ray Dandridge 3b”
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
If the Rangers like Byrd, I can't wait to see what they'll do if they get their hands on Crow.
I’m way too excited about that very remote possibility.
I’m expecting Martin or Hicks, and I’ll be very happy with that.
I’m hoping the second round brings a flame-throwing college pitcher, and the third round brings a RF from Tech into the fold.
flame throwing college pitchers
who make it to the mid second tend to have lots of things wrong with them
by Brett Perryman on Jun 5, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I meant flame-throwing college RP. There seems to be a number of this in this draft.
Maybe it’s a better value to wait to round 3 to pluck one of those.
personally i dont like drafting RP's period
im for drafting SP’s and put them in a rotation until its obvious they cant handle it. drafting RP’s is a waste of time in my book.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
I saw in the other thread
that Friederich is going at 10 while Crow falls to 11. Crow > Friederich, No?
This is one my favorite days for this blog
Watching people have an aneurysm over the drafting or not drafting players that will very likely never wear a Rangers uniform is great fun.
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 12:34 PM CDT reply actions
i'm afraid...
that matusz is going to end up a barry zito… doesn’t have a good plus fastball, pitches off his secondary pitches… are there a lot of top end rotational pitchers who don’t have a good fastball? also, his got a violent, high seffort delivery… he just scares me long term…
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
no big on Friedrich really
is it just me what are you guys thoughts on him?
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
I think Gdawg
really likes him, and that’s about it.
I agree, mediocre fastball + iffy control = bad choice for #11
Small school
kid with a great bender but nothing else that will grade as plus. He gets by on deception. I think he is a reach at #11.
Not a fan aswell
scouts think hes pitching over his head as it is…
Now watch him be a 5 time allstar
Lefties?
Matsuz’s fastball is low 90s, a lot like what Johan Santana works from. His fastball is fine relative to lefties
is it actually consitently low 90s?
or the 88-90 that occasionally hits 92/93 and gets called low 90s?
Gerald Laird is my hero.
i'm with dshep on this...
...i’ve seen multiple places that say 87-89 fastball that occassionally hits 92-93… and more importantly, he pitches backwards… its a bit disheartening since at the higher levels breaking balls get noticed easier and unless you are consistently throwing them for strikes, the fastball will get sat on and crushed…
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
Two things
First, Zito isn’t a bad thing – if the Rangers had the option of drafting a pre-Zito in the first round, I’d hope they take it.
Second, I don’t really see the comp between Matusz and Zito. Zito’s kind of a unique pitcher with that gigantic curve that has stopped working. I think FireBat’s comp to Santana is much more Matusz (obviously a best-case scenario for anyone – I don’t think he becomes Johan).
The drawback to Matusz is that his numbers are somewhat inflated by playing in San Diego. USD’s ballpark plays similar to Petco – guys just don’t hit home runs there. Of course, guys can’t hit home runs anywhere when they strike out, which is what Matusz has done to guys in college.
Should
I just record it and watch it later?
The suspense is killing me.
And I swear, if it is Cashner or Fredrick, I will be pissed.
"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos
NO!
Don’t text him. Make him sweat it out.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
eh, you could have fun with this
Text him that we drafted Alvarez in the first round, Matusz in the 2nd, and Crow in the 3rd.
With the 11th pick in the 2008 MLB Amateur Draft...
...the Texas Rangers redraft Matt Kata, infielder, Vanderbilt University.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
ill text you lol
eom
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Jun 5, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
if he predicts something.
the opposite will happen.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
how long does each team have? i forget.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
Five minutes in the first round, one minute in the supplemental round
Though in reality it’s all for glamor and show since teams already have their draft boards ironed out.
Would you say Tim Beckham is comparable to Elvis Andrus?
Do does Beckham have more power potential
i want hosmer pretty bad.
but i think we end up with martin or crow
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
If we "settle" for Crow
it’s been a great draft.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
Hosmer is a great talent
but right now, If they’re both there, I would be shocked if the organization didn’t go for Crow
i see no reason NOT to go with hosmer
honestly.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
after finally taking the time to read up on these guys
im getting pretty excited about the chance to get crow.
Gerald Laird is my hero.
projection...
.... hosmer is now being projected to mature to 6’5’’, 250… thats a whole lotta boy… and 70+ power outta 80…
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
MLB.com just predicted Crow to Astros
just like I think will happen if he’s there
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But after last year
do they have much choice? Especially given how barren that farm system is.
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
God I hope not
And with the way that franchise is being run, It’s very possible they whiff on the pick completely.
‘Jordan Danks! He’s from Texas and goes to college nearby and has a brother in the majors!’
hey im interested
in danks at some point.
seems like a guy just waiting to explode imo. tools out the wazoo IIRC
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
YAY!
NBA Inside Stuff is over!
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
I am at work
where is the best site to follow the draft online? Excluding LSB.
Brandon Boggs 2008 Texas Rangers ROY
MLB.com
Their draft tracker is what I’ve always used.
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
baseball prospectus has some stuff too IIRC
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/rt/rt.php?rtId=7
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Stop it, lone Rays fan in a wig.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
Well
That’s all the work I’m getting done today!
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
scheppers
Kevin Goldstein (10:46:52 AM PT): UB44 (Hermann, MO): So what is going on with Tanner Scheppers? Teams are getting the medical clearance to draft him in the first round. Is there really anything horribly wrong with him like a torn ligament? I mean if you can’t find anything, doesn’t that mean its probably nothing? Thats usually what the diagnosis is when a soft tossing lefty from Savannah State goes to see a doctor about the same problem.
The rumor is that it’s definitely something, I’ve heard both labrum and rotator cuff fraying. There are plenty of teams who do NOT have medical clearance to take him early. One rumor is Seattle at 20, but I think Scheppers is going to be waiting around for a while.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
good thing those ESPN guys aren't sitting outside in Dallas at the moment
...papers blowing everywhere…
II Cor. 4:17-18
bryan smith on ethan martin
For those keeping score at home, I think Ethan Martin is the best player that won’t go in the top 10, or so, that I believe will be a star.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Ill take Posey, deal TT and then get left with having to choose between Salt in 2 years
a young rookie Posey, or C. Santana if hes still a C
o please no.
you will hear my weeping in h-town.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Good
That’s fine as long as people immediately begin bitching and talking about moving him to 1b
by Jack Nicholson 1974 on Jun 5, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Why did you have to say that?
Why don’t you go back to your home on Whore Island?
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
I can't get the MLB.com video
to work. Poop.
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
for those of you who care
BP is having a (free) roundtable with a bunch of their guys – kevin goldstein, steven goldman, bryan smith, joe sheehan, etc
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/rt/rt.php?rtId=7&nocache=1212689445#new
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Who looks worse?
Selig or Gammons?
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
just a question
but was posey pricing himself out of the rays? if so – why.
if ANYONE thinks hes worth 12 mil they are out of their minds.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
considering they are loaded at basically every position
OTHER than catcher.
pirates suck.
royals suck.
giants suck
etc
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
selig
doesnt know how to use a teleprompter
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
selig
doesnt know how to do much.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
It's gotta be Posey, right?
RIGHT?!?
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
ESPN's got to make money.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
maybe they are trading down!
...o yea. cant do that in the MLB…
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Quoting Steve Phillips
“I think the difference for a lot of these guys isn’t how fast they run or how hard they throw. It’s what they have up here (pointing to his head) and what they have inside (pointing to his heart).”
Man, THAT is some serious analysis.
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions
and anyone wonders
why he isnt a GM anymore
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
well yea they decided ahead of time
eom
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
I really don't like Bud
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions
These guys do.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
odd
the live thread thing in 2.0 isnt working for me today.
and the sites constantly trying to load from google-analytics.com
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
Firefox + adblock is your friend
It’s made my life so much easier because I can block out ad servers that go down and make the whole rest of the page stall.
Probably NFL
Goodell rules with an iron fist, but he’s consistent at least.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
WNBA
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
heh regarding that break
Kevin Goldstein (11:15:29 AM PT): We’ve started, and the Rays are on the clock. As I stated on Unfiltered, they decided late last night that Tim Beckham is the best player available, and they’re taking him.
Bryan Smith (11:16:16 AM PT): There’s a 40% chance Zimmer hears Beckham and actually turns in the name Gordon instead, though. So five minutes of drama it will be!
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Per Scout.com:
“Frankie Piliere is reporting that the Pittsburgh Pirates have decided on third baseman Pedro Alvarez, the Kansas City Royals have decided on first baseman Eric Hosmer, the Baltimore Orioles have decided on left-hander Brian Matusz, the Florida Marlins have decided on catcher Kyle Skipworth, and the Washington Nationals have decided on outfielder Aaron Crow.”
Interesting.
thats how good crow is
he also plays OF
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Outfielder Aaron Crow
He’s got a great arm.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
Transcribing error on my part, sorry
I can’t handle two Aarons in the same draft.
The report is Crow to the Nationals.
Transcribing error on my part, sorry
I can’t handle two Aarons in the same draft.
The report is Crow to the Nationals.
I think Martin
is going to be an allstar someday. book it.
Aaron crow can play the OF?
those crazy nationals
Screw you Nats
Don’t take Crow
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
FIVE TOOLS!
FIVE TOOLS!
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
At least he can't possibly be worse than Bush.
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
are you kidding me?
they left keith law in bristol?
wow.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
nevermind
law’s best available
1) posey
2) smoak
3) hosmer
4) alvarez
5) crow
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
This is terrible.
Before it came to TV, the first round would be over by now. If you’ve ever listened to the conference call (which is what the draft actually is), it is 8 seconds between picks.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
I am sure ESPN wants each
team to take the entire 5 minutes. They need to add drama, profiles, etc.
Brandon Boggs 2008 Texas Rangers ROY
What is with the draft ticker?
I didnt realize teixeira was the only 1st rounder on our team
I was just about to post that
Morons.
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
we traded for him back
matt kata, e ramirez, ra dickey for teix.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
You kidding me?
we traded dickey again? fire jd!
I think this might actually be slower than the NFL Draft
I know as soon as pick #10 is over, people are going to come to my desk expecting me to do shit…
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
Just a question...
Why are they not allowed to reade picks?
Seems to me that would add some interest and go nicely with having the draft televised.
Collective bargaining
that’s how it turned out. Also, the compensation requirements make it…weird to trade picks
Cuz it would be stupid
There is WAY too much guesswork in the MLB draft to make trading picks viable.
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
OK...turn off the TV for the interview...
Poor planning by ESPN…THs is probably goign to be real bad
It looks like
they put 5 minutes of thinking into planning how this would work on TV and just said screw it, lets roll with that
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
You are terrible at everything, Bud Selig.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
PEDRO #2
OMFG
.....
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
Royals, you have one minute.
Then, I’m turning off the TV.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
Fine.
ESPN, you have one minute. Then, I’m turning off the TV.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
Fuck it. I'm gone.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
Selig has got talent
I mean serious talent. This guy should forget about commishing and pursue a career in hollywood.
mlb's draft tracker
is posting the picks before they’re read. Alvarez was up about a minute ago.
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
Gammons analysis (synopsis)..
Came down between Posey and Beckham
Beckham had the highest ceiling, roll the dice on a HS player
Draft a MI in the second round and convert him to C
It’s just that easy to get a C out of a guy like Drew Meyer!
ESPN
are they actually going to show the supplemental picks, or do we get a deep insigth into Dave Winfield again?
can someone link me to the draft tracker?
eom
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
this would be even better
if they would have more than 2 picks 25 minutes after the draft was supposed to start.
Practikin
Maybe he went to HP too.
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously,
they should have callis and law there instead of phiilips and gammons.
anyways im hoping this works out as well as last year. We suffered through this last year and look what fell into (and in the case of porcello) out of our laps.
They did the same thing last year
Only Callis knows what the hell he is talking about. At least Berman isn’t there.
ugh
this is awful, ive got the tv on in the background and it’s still mind numbingly bad.
i may just have to turn this off
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
this feels like the 7th inning of a rangers game.
Gerald Laird is my hero.
by DShep on Jun 5, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Oh hell no...
...if they bring out Betancourt I’m leaving.
I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.
The 3 guys seated at the Rangers' table...
Roger Moret, Eric Nadel, and Chuck Morgan
II Cor. 4:17-18
Give me the old days of no TV
We would have already made our second round pick by now.
Way to have balls KC.
Dayton’s doing a good thing there. Royals-Rangers 2010 AL Championship Series.
hosmer
somewhere dirkatron is crying
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
i think the crying i hear
is dirkatron
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
lol
Selig is so funny. He had to think a second before being able to come out with Kansas City’s team name
I'm pretty young
But seeing that Beckham was born in 1990 makes me feel reallllllllly old.
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
That was a nice interview
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions
Do the analysts have any idea who the players are?
Last year the panel (outside of Callis) didn’t have any idea who the players were, but that didn’t stop them from making wild comparisons to current MLB players.
I've officially given up
on the broadcast. I’m saving bandwidth and just following the draft tracker. God ESPN sucks.
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
question
is the espn feed whats on mlb.com?
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
yes
"Hey, I think it's easy for guys to hit .300 and stay in the big leagues. Hit .200 and try to stick around as long as I did; I think it's a much greater accomplishment. That's hard."-- Bob Uecker
by dmurphnextrusygreer on Jun 5, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
See
Everyone for years demanded ESPN televise the MLB draft. And when they do, and the inevitable talking about the players slowing things down, everyone gets upset…
I wouldn't mind the draft being televised
but in a 50 round draft, there is no need to go this slow. On top of that, ESPN has crappy analysis to offer, worse than their usual bs, and we get to hear a bunch of people yelling for the player interviews.
They have to understand their is a difference between covering
the NFL draft and the MLB draft. It’s not the TV coverage…it’s the way they’re doing it. Hell, they didn’t even change any of the graphics from the NFL draft.
Quick moving
with a representative announcing the club’s selection. A break between each round to recap the players taken, their respective ceilings. Give like 10 minutes for the analysts to pontificate and then go back to busines
The problem is that none of the analysts from ESPN
have any clue about the ceilings of the players.
Well you beat me in replying
but that is along the lines of what I would look for. The NFL draft (TV wise) is built on the suspense b.c. of trading picks and the names everyone knows from college and the unpredictable free fall of big time college names. The MLB draft is not like that, but they seem to want to televise it like it is.
I agree w/ Firebat that analysis should be round by round or every 10 picks or something that doesn’t lead to 5 minutes between picks with several spots of dead air and useless talk from ESPN.
Or at least
do it like in the second day of the draft where there is continuous talking about the draft picks while the draft is going on. There wouldn’t have to be any of this 5 minutes pauses to build suspense. No one knows who these guys are anyways.
That is exactly how it should be done
I couldn’t figure out how to describe it but Day2 of the NFL draft is a pretty good comp. So I guess I was too quick to say it should be nothing like the NFL draft…it should just be nothing like Day 1 and a lot like Day 2
I was not among those
demanding. I now demand that someone else televise it. Perhaps it will be on the new MLB channel when it rolls out on cable?
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
Its not the talking about the players,
it who is talking about the players
steve phillips
when you get in the minors your playing against the best players from all across the country
ah not the world, clearly.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
LMAO
wow, selig is g-d awful, and that is an understatement
for the love of all that is holy
keep bud “skeletor” selig away from cameras
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
Bud looks bored
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
Who do you think is better?
not saying he is far and a way the best, but he compares favorably with just about any minor league pitcher and thats in less than a year
sure that isnt
a darth vader impression?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
a darth vader impression?
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
zz
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
I would take both of them if they are the top player on the board at that time
I hate drafting based on need. Skipworth is a couple of years away and if Posey turns out to be a badass, we can always trade him and get a stud back.
dan uggla
not a suprise cuz he was an 11th rd pick
a suprise cuz he was a rule V pick, dumbass.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
If Crow goes to the Nats...
I’m hopin the rangers take ethan martin
I wish the would stop trying to make it like the nfl draft,
and by doing so making it nothing like the nfl draft
google image
just search epic fail. You have to go through 20 pictures of Jamey wright, but eventually you’ll find these
posey
Bryan Smith (11:37:58 AM PT): Before the Giants pick, let me say that I think Justin Smoak is a better fit for this organization than Posey. Steven alluded to it a bit earlier—they need absolute impact bats. I like Buster Posey a ton, and I think he’s a sure-fire Major Leaguer. But absolute best case scenario is probably late 90s Jason Kendall, and we’ve all seen the other comparisons thrown around. Smoak has the potential to lead the Major Leagues in home runs and win Gold Gloves. Position scarcity shouldn’t concern a Giants team that is weak at every position offensively.
Kevin Goldstein (11:40:10 AM PT): Lemme say I think Bryan is WAY low on Posey. Best case scenario is .290/.360/.475 catcher with Gold Glove defense. WAY better than Kendall.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
good pick for them
and I think that is good news for our propsects of getting crow too. Dont screw it up cincy
ah coaches evidently call ALL the pitches at the college level
no catchers * ever * call a pitch.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Who said that?
someone should tell that to the UT coaching staff and catchers.
Posey is excited.
Riveting interview.
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions
callis
just called porcello as good as any pitcher inthe minors.
...right.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
You guys are
off on Porcello. He’s really good.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 5, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
well yea hes really good
but is he as good as any SP in the minors? i just dont think so.
is he a top 10 guy? probably.
but is he better than kershaw? not a chance.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
IIRC
callis has said it before when kershaw WAS in the minors but i might be wrong.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
He debuted
THREE levels higher than guys like Main and Beavan.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 5, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Was he on the Low A roster on opening day?
If not, than he debuted in extended.
no
his first game was at class A
end of story.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Yeah, sorry on Beavan
But the jump between starting at Low A and High A is huge for a HS guy. I can’t understand how some people don’t recognize that.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 5, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
to me its not like justin upton
who sucked, tbu the tools were very clearly there. its not like porcello has 3 plus pitches
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
yeah
but are you telling me that there isn’t a pitcher in the minors who has 3 plus pitches right now?
Well
if he is supposed to be the best pitcher in the minors right now, I would think that there wouldn’t be anyone in the minors right now who already has developed the pitches unlike Porcello who is supposed to be able to have 3 plus pitches.
Porcello
is a legit top 5 pitching prospect in the minors right now. He has the makings of the three plus pitches at the major league level that he struggles to command with consistency.
He’s 19 and in A+. My argument is not based on his overall statistical achievement compared to other pitchers.
He made his debut in High A
What do you expect him to do when he skipped short season ball and Low A? The Ks will come.
if hes as good as any pitcher in the minors
the k’s should be there now.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
stats
porcello: 2.44 bb/9, 5.17 k/9, 2.87 era, .255 baa, 1.24 whip
feliz: 2.94 bb/9, 9.78 k/9, 2.33 era, .196 baa, 1.00 whip (for comparison)
kershaw: 2.12 bb.9, 9.76 k/9, 2.28 era, .205 baa, 1.08 whip
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Porcello
Did you see Silver’s article? He called Porcello “very disappointing” this season, and compared him to Jon Garland.
(I’m not taking a position on Porcello, or saying Silver is right—just thought that was interesting).
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 5, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
You not taking a position?
Color me shocked.
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder what Silver expected him to do this year
Was he supposed to debut in High A and average 12 or 13 Ks and inning? If Silver thought that, than Silver is a bigger idiot than I thought.
Who do you think is better?
not saying he is far and a way the best, but he compares favorably with just about any minor league pitcher and thats in less than a year
exatly
COMPARES favorably with any minor league pitcher. doesnt mean he is as good as them
hell right now feliz could compare to nolan ryan for all we know…
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Geez
i dont know whats going on, but the thread gets slow and my posts sit there “posting” forever.
maybe its this new firefox rc3
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
Except Mayo
updated to Houston for Crow, right? Or was that someone else with mlb.com?
by Brett Perryman on Jun 5, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Im not getting my hopes up on that 1B
who’s name won’t be mentioned until my heart is broken before pick #11.
If she finds him uncharismatic
Then why is she on him?
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Skipworth is from Riverside?
There is so much smog in that city. I’d be wary of drafting any athelete who grew up there…
I think you guys are way too critical
of the broadcast. We could have Chris Berman, Joe Morgan and Humpety Dumpety there.
However…the commercials are KILLING me
I could be in the Rangers bullpen
That doesn’ t make the guys who are currently there any better
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 5, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
My biggest complaint, though
would be production value, not the fact that Callis, Law and their studio crew is that bad.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 5, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Crow
I may be behind the curve, but I am still not a Smoak fan.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 5, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
This got interesting all of a sudden
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
not this high?
these people need to do some homework, that is why the NFL draft is so much more better, they actually do their job.
If no one dropped
alonso would not have been a terrible pick at 11. at 7 i agree, smoak is better imo and maybe even wallace too
I wouldnt have minded Alonso
however thats a little surprising for the reds.
gotta think the sox go beckham, nats go smoak, and then we sweat.
maybe the Nats will take Smoak instead of Crow
perhaps?
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
Wha?
Maybe it didn’t show on 360 yet.
I think he’s killing it.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jun 5, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
So wait
guys, just so I have it straight.
With that pick, the Reds, who play without a DH, drafted a guy who plays the same position as one of their young, cheap stars (Joey Votto), a guy who also struggles vs. LHP and a guy who is absolutely worse than the guy they left on the board (Justin Smoak)?
Did I get that right?
But he's not
Justin Smoak is a better player. And a better defender. And a better Athlete. And just play better
i forgot
what you say is gold. oops, sorry. No other team should have different scouting views than you. My bad.
smoak is much much better than alonzo
imo
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
smoak>alonzo yes
smoak>laporta not so sure about
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Wow,
I expected Smoak to be gone now.
I simply must get more memory on my computer before next year’s draft.
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
Houston needs to take him
so they don’t take Crow
by Brett Perryman on Jun 5, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
smoak to the nats im betting
we just have to watch out for the damn astros
there goes beckham
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
My prediction...
...another commercial
I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.
nat's
i’m thinking they take smoak as they didnt think he’d be there
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
i actually want the nats to take Crow
because I think the chances are better that the Astros pass on Smoak than Crow.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
Well
they could easily not take either (though Callis did have Crow here)
by Brett Perryman on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy crap
Is it dawning on everyone that there’s a good chance we could get Smoak or Crow here!?
Fingers crossed, boys…
Fingers crossed.
The 40 trumps all!!!
we're probably getting all worked up
and we’ll end up with Cashner
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
that'd be awful
Smoak and Crow sitting there, Nolan walks out and pushes selig out of the way and says Cashner Cashner Cashner!
i think we’ll see smoak and crow go off the board right here.
though it wouldnt surprise me if houston went with the kentucky lefty because he’s cheap
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
This is like the Cowboys draft this year
Where I was praying for Jenkins or Mendenhall to fall to us….
Then we took Jones
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
Yeah, but for 15 minutes or so I went apeshit.
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
I prefer to think of it
like the Draft my saints had. Where we kicked Cinncinnati’s ass and took Sedrick Ellis
the astros will take smoak if hes there for them
at least i saw that speculated.
Gerald Laird is my hero.
i guess they'd convert him to OF then?
because Berkman’s not going anywhere for the next 5 years or so
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
worst case scenario
it goes smoak, crow, martin. but i think it goes smoak, friedrich, crow
CROW CROW CROW!!
or Wallace/Friedrich if Smoak and Crow go the next two.
"The only people who get bored are boring people."
baseball america blog
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/
Now the Nats have Justin Smoak and Aaron Crow staring them in the face. If they take Smoak, the Astros take a sigh of relief and pop Aaron Crow at 10. If that scenario unfolds, that would likely leave the Rangers with Ethan Martin at the top of their board at 11.
Shunt
College pitcher with command/mechanical troubles make me go a big rubbery one.
The 40 trumps all!!!
crow
if the rangers draft him they might draw a bigger goth crowd thinking they are doing showings of the movie every 5 days
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
UGH
crow gone
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
the rangers
always fail to suck JUST enough to get the stud talent
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
Fuck
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
and our hopes are dashed.
shittttt
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
Efff
If this leaves us with Wallace…I’ll be pissed
I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.
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