Draft day 2 open thread
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 6, 2008 11:01 AM CDT
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I know nothing
about almost any of the players available, so I’ll just smile and nod as I trust Hopkins’ crew to pick whatever players they feel are the best on the board.
In the meantime, holy shit, we have Justin Smoak! I hereby dub this the Holy Shit, Thanks Houston! draft.
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on Jun 6, 2008 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so, this might be a little premature
but where does he land on the Rangers off season prospect rankings?
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
by tdi1985 on Jun 6, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
The Rangers took him?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jun 6, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Castner
Fastball: Castner threw his fastball in the 92-95 mph range.
Fastball movement: It’s a heavy fastball with some sink.
Slider: He throws a hard slider.
Changeup: Castner throws an offspeed pitch, a changeup or a splitter, but he doesn’t show it often.
Control: When he’s able to repeat his mechanics, his command is fine.
Poise: He’s got the look and mentality to be a short reliever.
Physical Description: Castner is a big right-hander who looks the part of an intimidating closer-type with a Jason Isringhausen-type body.
Medical Update: A shoulder injury forced him to miss his freshman year, but he’s now healthy.
Strengths: A real power pitcher with an electric fastball and hard slider.
Weaknesses: He’s got no offspeed pitch to speak of. He’s had some serious delivery problems in the past which looked better at the beginning of his outings, but fell apart the longer he was out there. A lack of mechanics leads to loss of command.
Summary: Big, intimidating and armed with a power arsenal, he’s got the raw tools to be a short reliever some day. He’ll need quite a bit of polish as he doesn’t have a ton of experience on the mound. His delivery has been bad in the past and while it’s been refined, he had some trouble maintaining it throughout an outing. But this kind of arm strength, in that kind of body, doesn’t grow on trees … so he’s bound to garner some interest.
From mlb.com
by coolaid on Jun 6, 2008 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Love it...
...big fan of Field of Dreams and Bull Durham.
"sorry, I'm usually a dick by pointing these things out but 'concepted' is classic" - ab03
by Suicide Prince on Jun 6, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers picks today so far
7th William Thompson RHP HS
8th Micheal Bianucci OF Auburn
9th Jared Bolden OF Viginia Commonwealth
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Bianucci
Steve Murphy starter-kit. I predict he’ll be a contender for NWL MVP.
by shroomer on Jun 6, 2008 11:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Castner
I really like what I read about him. All these teams spend 1st round picks on relievers and this guy sounds just as good as them once he gets his stuff together.
I can see him being our future closer.
by Coolbean04 on Jun 6, 2008 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
PIck # 333 (10th rnd) the Rangers select
Clifford Springston LHP Univ of Ark- Fayetteivlle
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
363-12th rnd
Corey Hall LHP Seaton Hall
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Corey Young
Says draft tracker
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on Jun 6, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Hulett
brother of Tug – taken by the Astros in Round 12
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no real info on him hmmm
6’3” 200lb SS r/r
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3B in the future...
On thing i have noticed is not alot of SS/3b to kinda try and catch a 3B we really need in the system
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
little article.
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/sports/highschools/930866,4_2_JO04_JJCPILL_S1.article
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont have facebook but looks like his site.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed_Koncel/62801933
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Draft
the rangers are really loving them some pitchers this draft
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
by rentz on Jun 6, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
looks like a reliever
always was throwing from the stretch in the video i saw
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah stats! crazy i know...
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/G/Justin-Gutsie.shtml
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and more on gutsie
http://www.redstormsports.com/men/baseball/roster/bi_baseball_gutsie_justin.sju
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Justin Gutsie
RHP St. Johns
6’1” 205
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
KC has done pretty friggin well in this draft BTW
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
two drafts in a row
when they hit on HS kids.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i was kinda pissed when they got John Lamb
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i liked the kid they took last round, 14th round i guess...
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need another Murphy.
Surely there’s one out there.
BTW, I watch the MLB draft scouting videos just for the kool music, man. Dig it.
by shroomer on Jun 6, 2008 11:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Blake Murphy
Catcher.
A murphy, a catcher, and a relatively small guy. That hits leftie.
It’s JD’s dreamboat
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jo Butler UNO
6’2” 210 Sr CFer
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.unoprivateers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16700&ATCLID=882587
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
everything im finding says he goes by Joey Butler rather than Joe or Joseph
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brett Moneyham
finally off the board to the Padres.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just saw that
his video looks better than i think just about every pitcher we’ve drafted sad to say.
but what do i know?
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Signability
sadly. I expect him to go pretty high in 3 years
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i say...
...spend the money…
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
by ivysafety39 on Jun 6, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats
a great name…
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
by ivysafety39 on Jun 6, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We still have Yoon-hee Nam. Close enough.
by shroomer on Jun 6, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait...
...i’d love to see some Ya-hoo Nonie…
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
by ivysafety39 on Jun 6, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the way the draft is shaping up
How many people do you think we’ll be able to sign? We usually average 50% and sign about 25 guys. Obviously, most are top of the draft.
Anyone think that a player we drafted so far won’t sign?
by Coolbean04 on Jun 6, 2008 11:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Robbie Ross
from the sound of it. Thats mid-late first round money he is asking for.
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
Sounded like the org and player hadn’t talked ahead of time, but the money angle had to be premeditated.
Fewer picks this year, he looks like Kiker, etc. I bet he’ll get done.
I know the financial issues just telescope when talking about first-year players vs free agent veterans but…what’s $500k? Just give him that little bit of money. Sell another player to Japan if it stings so bad.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jun 6, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet he gets signed
it just sounds a lot like garret nash last year. The day after he said his demands were high and everyone knew it. He also said he never talked or heard from the rangers until he got drafted, thats the comp I was trying to make.
The money isnt always the issue. Selig and mlb bears down really hard on teams that continually and habitually bust slot. You cant do it with every pick unless you are bigger than or above the game as the yanks and sox are. Or if you own little caesars.
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would really like
to see us take a chance on some top high school players. My two favorite were galloway and daniel webb and we had a chance on both, webb several times. At this point the picks arent as valuable and if we really are going to spend in the draft then lets get some serious talent.
Off the top of my head there is still hightower the hs c and maronde a hs lhp
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Austin Woods
fits the bill. Big time arm strength, from texas.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea that would be nice
swagerty too, im sure there are a bunch in including near impossible signs like alex meyer and sonny gray that im sure boston or nyy will draft
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Compensation
is there compensation if you dont sign your 2nd round pick? or is it only for unsigned first rounders?
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
by rentz on Jun 6, 2008 12:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Texas high-schoolers
These guys are still available and were among the top-100 rivals.com HS prospect rankings:
26. Austin Dicharry RHP (Spring, TX)
48. Taylor Jungmann RHP (Temple, TX)
53. Jordan Swagerty C/RHP
61. Randall Thorpe OF (Grapevine, TX)
69. Jarrod McKinney OF
72. Jeremy Rathjen OF
79. Walker Kelley LHP (Arlington Heights HS)
video of Walker Kelley: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2008/reports.jsp?content=wkelly
And, like Firebat, I am all about Austin Wood from Niceville HS in Florida. Also he looks weird: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2008/reports.jsp?content=wood
by naropean on Jun 6, 2008 12:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
walker kelly
i remember him lighting up the Little League World Series a few years back. Kid was going toe to toe against that Kentucky team – took a no hitter into the 9th (I forget the limit) before he automatically had to come out. Unfortunately they lost (I believe it was the quarters). Looked like a young randy johnson
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meyer
Is he still available? I know he’s going back to school but how much would it take to sign him? 8M?
by Coolbean04 on Jun 6, 2008 12:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yea
something like that. Last I heard he wanted late to mid first round money while gray said he doesnt intend to sign period.
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we truly feel he'll be a 1st round draftee
in a couple of years. Why not give him the money?
by Coolbean04 on Jun 6, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Palazzone
still on the board too.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Gorgen
finally off the board to the hated Rays
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lots of college players
drafted today. Not sure how I feel about that.
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
im not gonna lie, those guys arent my target
i see these mid to late rounder college guys as system fillers rather than guys with future big time potential. its not how id go about it.
awe well.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No wonder
1 high schooler, 1 jc player, and a whole bunch of college kids most likely to end up as relievers. Although I have to admit I dont know much about these players and will wait for some news from the pros, but I would like to see a couple of O’campos drafted soon.
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really fit to be a reliever
pretty much had to pitch as a starter in college.
Two pitch guy, good sink on the Fastball. A little like Kam Loe
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
crazy old man
I love the guy announcing picks for the Dodgers. Great delivery.
by naropean on Jun 6, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
anybody listening to the conference call
it is pretty funny
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just go to texasrangers.com
and look at the second news story, and the link for last night’s conference call is available.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
by tdi1985 on Jun 6, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Navarro Jr College kid just went
Jaron Shepherd
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and KC takes another HS arm
they are either gonna have one of the deepest sets of HS arms in baseball or none of them will sign.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers - Dennis Guinn - 1B FSU
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the college Sr's and Jr's all coming here is starting to piss me off
i want projectability and growth potential not 23 year olds…
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
starting to agree
this seems like deja vu from 5 years ago
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
meanwhile
the yanks and sox and royals continue to endlessly stock up on HS arms they will sign and every1 will be shocked at how amazing these kids are…
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guinn
Well, not the FSU guy I would have wanted them to take, but still pretty cool that they did. I think I actually had a class with this guy once. His profile on seminoles.com is sort of messed up, says he’s still a freshman, which isn’t true. But, here are his stats from this year:
.328/.429/.638 17 HR (second on the team, to you know who), 28 SO in 235 ABs, 38 BB, 72 RBI
Had 21 multi-hit games, and 21 multi-rbi games.
Played exclusively at 1B this year.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
by tdi1985 on Jun 6, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we going to draft anyone with upside?
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't know
Mark Pope off the board to the Cardinals
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think pope went to ATL
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
Georgia guy, shoulda known
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dodgers guy really sucks
completely messed up the guy’s name
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tommy LaSorda
dosen’t do it anymore? He used to be the best part about listening to the draft.
by JBImaknee on Jun 6, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you serious? that's tommy lasorda
well, i didn’t say he wasn’t fun to listen to.
that’s awesome though
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think that is Tommy.
He’s a funny guy.
by JBImaknee on Jun 6, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK found some info on C Murphy and Bleire
Murphy
SCOUTING REPORT (3/1): Murphy was one of the biggest enigmas of the 2007 summer scouting season. He established himself as one of the top young power hitters in Southern California as a sophomore, hitting .352 with seven home runs for one of the top high school teams in the state. A strong junior season (.347, 7 HR) led to his selection as an Aflac All-American, but he made some changes to his swing during the summer that didn’t work and he struggled to make the kind of contact he showed before. His showing at Perfect Game’s National Showcase in Cincinnati in June exposed Murphy at his worst. To his credit, he kept plugging away, made some adjustments and was hitting better at the end of the summer. At his best, Murphy has a loose, powerful swing with lots of lift and power, and the ball explodes off his bat. He’s an aggressive hitter and rarely gets cheated at the plate. His struggles had more to do with timing issues. His speed, 4.45 seconds down the line, is his weakest tool and may limit him to first base in the future. Murphy is a solid defender at first and in the outfield, with alert, fluid actions around the first-base bag. But his games revolves around his bat.—DAVID RAWNSLEY
UPDATE (5/15): Murphy has been compared to a young Ryan Klesko, and there is a similar all-or-nothing approach in their games. Murphy can hit the ball as far as anyone when he gets his pitch and his timing is down, and that happened frequently enough this spring to keep scouts interested.—DR
Bleire
SCOUTING REPORT: Bleier was unknown to national scouts prior to the 2008 season, but by adding 40 pounds in college to a 6-foot-3 frame he has gone from a low-80s, lanky high school lefthander to a 90-mph college ace. He went a commendable 8-2, 3.60 as a sophomore and topped that this spring against much stiffer competition by going 7-1, 2.09 with 17 walks and 76 strikeouts in 90 innings as Florida Gulf Coast, a new member of the Atlantic Sun Conference, played a full Division I schedule for the first time. Bleier is a polished southpaw in the Mark Buehrle-mould, with a very good slider/changeup combination and pinpoint command of all three of his pitches. He moved steadily up draft boards over the second half of the 2008 season and could be picked as high as the late-second or early-third round.—
http://www.pgcrosschecker.com/draft/2008/Rounds/roundbyround.aspx
only the first day
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Heres the rest
Smoak
SCOUTING REPORT (3/1): Smoak cemented his status as a top prospect for the 2008 draft when he was just a freshman at South Carolina. He hit 22 home runs that year and was arguably one of the top hitting prospects to play in the Cape Cod League in years that summer, drawing regular comparisons to Colorado Rockies first baseman Todd Helton. He won league MVP honors after a huge year at the plate that included a league-high 11 home runs. He was a mirror-image from both sides of the plate, showing smooth, fluid swings with outstanding bat speed and an easy lift. He has the ability to hit balls high and far and takes a very healthy cut. Smoak hit 17 homers as a sophomore as he was pitched more carefully, but was humbled last summer with Team USA. He hit just .223-3-19 overall and failed to homer in his final 102 at-bats. It was the first time in his career that he had ever really dealt with failure and he appeared to lose his confidence. More than anything, he got eaten up by changeups; he found himself getting overly anxious and continually off balance at the plate as he tried to reach for pitches. At his peak form, Smoak has exceptional power from both sides, especially from left center to right center, and stays inside the ball well but may need to pull balls more often as a number of his deep drives to center field are caught on the warning track. Scouts say he needs to stay through the ball longer to maximize his pull power. Defensively, Smoak is a top-notch first baseman, but he could improve his footwork around the bag and ability to come in on balls. He has a playable arm for the position. But scouts say he doesn’t spend enough time working on his defense as he concentrates most of his time with swinging the bat. First base is a premium position at the college level in the 2008 draft, yet it would be a surprise if Smoak is not the first first baseman drafted—his struggles last summer aside.—ALLAN SIMPSON
UPDATE (5/1): Smoak became a more complete hitter this year than in his first two college seasons. He topped South Carolina with a .389 average (entering the Southeastern Conference tournament), up significantly from the .303 and .315 figures he posted as a freshman and sophomore. He took what pitchers gave him more willingly and used the whole field as his hitting domain—as evidenced by a team-best 18 doubles. He also was more adept at staying balanced and patient on off-speed pitches, and generally showed outstanding plate discipline in the process. His 51-26 walk-to-strikeout differential was one of the best ratios in the country. It didn’t hurt that he had James Darnell and Phil Disher, who combined for 34 home runs, hitting behind him in the Gamecocks order, but Smoak became a legitimate candidate to be one of the first 5-6 players drafted when he became one of the hottest hitters in the country over the second half of the season—both for power and average. In addition to his near-.400 average, he led the Gamecocks with 20 homers.—AS
Ross
SCOUTING REPORT (3/1): If the 6-foot, 180-pound Ross was 6-3, 200, scouts might be talking about him as the top lefthanded pitching prospect in the country. They still might before the spring is over. Ross is a very agile, quick-twitch type of athlete in the Mike Hampton-style. He pounds the strike zone with three pitches that show plus quality at times: a 90-92 mph fastball, an 83-mph slider and a low-80s changeup. Ross pretty much uses all three pitches interchangeably and he can work over good hitters pretty quickly. As a high school junior, he went 4-5, 2.95 with 67 strikeouts in 43 innings. The difference athletically between Ross and most prospect pitchers is evident is their choice of secondary sports; Ross is an all-league soccer player when he’s not playing baseball.—DAVID RAWNSLEY
UPDATE (5/1): Ross is the most polished of the Kentucky quartet of top prep prospects, and did the most this spring to live up his reputation. His fastball was in the 88-93 mph range, touching 94, as it has been for two years now, and his ability to pitch at that velocity, hold it deep into games and also command three secondary pitches—a curve, 82-83 mph slider and changeup—sets him apart. He gained the measure of lefthander Nick Maronde, his crosstown rival, in a heavily-scouted game earlier this year when he struck out 14, walked none and gave up an unearned run. On the season, he was 5-1, 1.07 with six walks and 73 strikeouts in 45 innings. The one knock on Ross continues to be his size, and it may knock him down a few pegs on draft boards and relegate him to a set-up role at the pro level.—ALLAN SIMPSON
T. Murphy
SCOUTING REPORT (3/1): Scouts weren’t sure whether Murphy was a pitcher or position player when he came out of high school as an 11th-round draft pick, or through his freshman year at UCLA when he didn’t pitch at all and had limited success as a center fielder. But the physical lefthander has left little doubt that he is a pitcher first and foremost now. In fact, he could be one of the sleepers of the draft if he shows as much improvement this spring as he did last year and can master his control problems. Despite a modest 5-4, 5.68 record, Murphy moved in as the No. 2 starter in the UCLA rotation in 2007 after starting the season in relief. Most impressive were his 96 strikeouts in 76 innings, including a 14-strikeout effort against Arizona State, arguably the nation’s best hitting team a year ago. Murphy has impressive stuff with a 90-92 mph fastball, good curve and a much-improved changeup, but needs to improve his control after walking 33 and command after being touched for 84 hits. He will continue to see spot duty in the outfield for the Bruins, but after hitting just .248 with one homer in his first 153 collegiate at-bats his emphasis will be on pitching.—ALLAN SIMPSON
UPDATE (5/15): Murphy was the No. 1 starter for UCLA this spring, though his 4-6, 3.89 record with 40 walks and 97 strikeouts in 86 innings was a contributing factor in a disappointing season for the Bruins. He did little to enhance his standing in the draft as his fastball was mostly in the 88-90 mph range—not an electric 90-92 mph offering as was hoped and which might have elevated him into the first round. His 74-76 mph curve flashed average, while his changeup, his third pitch, was merely serviceable at 78-80 mph. Murphy maintains a lot of draft appeal as he has a strong, well defined athletic frame, generally repeats his delivery, hides his pitches well and is a tough competitor.—AS
Wieland
SCOUTING REPORT: By far the best high school prospect in northern Nevada, Wieland has always had an advanced sense of pitching and how to attack and set up hitters. When his velocity jumped to the 91-92 mph range this year, giving him a third solid pitch, his prospect status was solidified. His more-established curveball has sharp, three-quarters break and his changeup creates good deception off his fastball. He has an acute ability to throw strikes with each, and walked just nine in 61 innings this spring while striking out 113. He also gave up just 27 hits and went 7-2, 1.26 overall. Wieland has also garnered interest from scouts as a shortstop with solid hitting skills, and he would probably be used as a two-way player if he should up in school at San Diego State.—ALLAN SIMPSON
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Justin Smoak
remember our old friend who posted those Zack Phillips and Chris Davis breakdowns?
He’s got a Justin Smoak breakdown. Read it, it’s pretty awesome.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
you should post this
as a fanpost or fanshot. Everybody should see it and it will get lost in this thread. I’ll do it tomorrow if by chance you don’t see this comment
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
baltimore - Keith Landers
that’s a good pick in this round
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
just saw him and was like, “shit, why arent we making any effort to get these guys”
6 foot 7 and LHP and we are busy drafting college Sr 1b guys….
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh - organizational fodder - college catcher
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They must really
be putting their egs in ross’ basket. Are they afraid to draft some who will bust slot cause they screwed up and didnt realize his demands?
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My guess is
Clark Murphy, Thompson, Wieland, Ross and Smoak will all sign above slot.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thompson
Any scouting reports on him?
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your typical Ron Hopkins pick
High schooler with good stuff. Not very well scouted because of his school of choice. Brings something to the table (a good fastball), and everything else is developmental
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good stuff, really?
I didn’t see it from the vid. Looked very average but he does have a big frame
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've read that
his mechanics are inconsistent so you never know what you’re going to get. But he has the armstrength and will continue to develop into it.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
High School Pitcher
from Georgia to the Braves???
I’m shocked
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2nd one in a row theyve taken
i wish we had a similar approach
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind the college players that much
at this point, you’re not going to hit many future prospects anyway. With college guys who are flawed enough to fall this low, you can pick them up cheap, bring them in to your coaches and see if you can correct any obvious flaws. If you do, then maybe they click into place and can be a good player for a really low pick, kind of like Ian Kinsler did.
High school kids who sign in the late teens or 20’s are going to be flawed in some way as well, but in addition to fixing whatever problems they may have, they also have to learn to be away from home, play really competitive ball for the first time, and have real pressure to succeed (I imagine that for even most 30th rounders HS ball is “easy”).
I’d rather just grab the college guy, have him focus on the 1, 2, or 3 things that you think are fixable, and then if it doesn’t work, send him on his way.
by JBImaknee on Jun 6, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea but,
Im not talking about run of the mill high schoolers. There are still some top hs players that have not signed and while some are considered unsignable, some are just tougher signs. I just want to take a chance on a few of the latter and see if we can get them in here like we did last year.
Im not against college players, but drafting them exclusively is not the way to go.
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess we are done taking high schoolers
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck yeah
Harold Martinez ain’t bad for the wait
by naropean on Jun 6, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
harold martinez, HS SS
problem is he’s probably going to Miami. Really doubt we sign him
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
with all the seniors we've taken
hopefully we’ll cough up the money to get this guy
by naropean on Jun 6, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For those who don't know
Harold Martinez was THE HS hitter at the start of teh year. Big time bat, 6’3”, but really struggled this year with the scouts watching.
He’ll likely go to college, but if he signs and he works out, he could be the best HS bat taken this draft.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what would..
...it take to sign some of these guys going to college… 500k?
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
by ivysafety39 on Jun 6, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
we could save that money and sign a catalanotto at this rate
=(
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah
I think we’ll sign a couple of these late picks. If we do pick up Martinez, though, that’d be awesome
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
out of all the guys we signed...
...give me the signability guys and what it’s probaly gonna take to sign them bonus wise…
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
by ivysafety39 on Jun 6, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I can’t really tell you about the college guys, but -
Justin Smoak – I’d guess he gets about 2 million, maybe a bit more. He was expected to go top 10, and I think we give him a bit more money in exchange for no ML contract.
Robbie Ross – Big time Kentucky Commitment. I’d guess 1 million-1.2 million. I’d be shocked if he doesn’t sign, and I’d be shocked if we signed him before 1 week to the deadline.
Tim Murphy – easy sign. Slot money, maybe a bit above it.
Joe Wieland – tough to tell. Not really strong commitment. I’d guess 300,000-500,000 range? (2nd round money)
Clark Murphy – He wants to play, so I’d put him at the same place, if not a bit lower than Wieland
Richard Bleier – Easy sign too. He wants to play, a bit above slot would be my guess
Will Thompson – I’d guess what Robert Wilkins got last year would be a good figure for him.
Harold Martinez – Let’s just say if we signed him, Bud would be real mad at us.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how are you shoulders?...
from carrying us through this draft?
if we threw 1.25mil at harold would it: a) get him and B) be worth it to us in the long run?
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
by ivysafety39 on Jun 6, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Yes on the first. Your guess is as good as mine, but instinctively, I say yes on the second.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't we think...
...that if we are trading away at least 5-8 mil this year at the dead line we can spend it on these kids?
and does nolan or jd make that decision?
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
by ivysafety39 on Jun 6, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ew..
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
by ivysafety39 on Jun 6, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive read that a lot of the top HS kids struggle their Sr year
the thinking being that after they explode onto the scen their Jr year, the teams playing them quit pitching to them
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what school is he committed to?
Miami or somewhere else?
by JBImaknee on Jun 6, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't say enough
about that Dodgers guy…and the way he hits the keys on the phone with those beep-boops…hilarious
by naropean on Jun 6, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Martinez scouting report from the beginning of the year
Martinez and fellow Miami area corner infielder Eric Hosmer offer the two most promising sticks from the prep class. Martinez bats right-handed, and has the easy athleticism that allows him to play shortstop at the prep level. While he’s not an immediate candidate to move off the position, most think that his frame will continue to add strength which will prompt a move to the hot corner. His tools allow him to profile as a future Gold Glover at the position, with good lateral quickness and a very strong throwing arm. He will make his mark with his bat, with an easy swing that produces power to all fields, and an overall offensive package and body that has drawn a few comparisons to Alex Rodriguez. That tool package makes Martinez a candidate to be taken among the top 10 picks, and he has committed to play for Miami.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh
he reminded my of arod too when I heard the pick. then again that might be because he is from miami and has a last name that ends in ez. Hopefully he has more in common with him than that… like he becomes an allstar and mvp for the rangers.
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There we go
I move up the thread to answer a question about signability and we get one of the hardest signs in the draft. doubtful he signs from the sound of it as his slide wasnt based on demands but rather performance.
The question is whether JD and co. really believe in his potential and are willing to pay based on that. Either way I like the pick, lets keep it up.
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
KC
12 out of their 20 picks have been HS kids.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great...
a 5’9 senior shortstop from lsu… can you say projectability? This guy cant
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this guy is going to be awesome I say!
I bet he has grit
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet he loves Jesus too
we’re fulfilling our Eckstein requirement now that Juglet was taken by Houston
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Theriot
says that you should shut your mouth!
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That or
he can enroll in the matt kata school of gritiness. Showalter is currently in negotiations to become the new dean!
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kata probably dwarfs this guy
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Riot!!!!
whose the cubs other MIFer? dont they have 2 LSU guys up the middle?
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Fontanont(sp?)
is their utility dude. Their other MIF is the Dumpmaster.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LSU SS Mike Hollander
5’9’’ 180
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
good pick – but i guess it’s either martinez or cox – not both
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but having said that
why the hell did we draft hollander. absolutely no reason to.
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
thats at least three now drafted from dallas baptist
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
any1 know anything about the 6'6'' kid from DBU who just went to zona?
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alex Meyer
to the Red sox. I bet they get that done too
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow!
5 bucks says they sign the kid.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well yeah...
....but who doesn’t wanna play for the red sox… right?... or the yankees for that matter… everyone wants to play for them?...
\sarcasm\
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
by ivysafety39 on Jun 6, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it
Meyer and Gray are the two guys I absolutely cannot see signing. Harold Martinez has a better chance to be signed than Alex Meyer and Sonny Gray.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
on gray, he wants to go to college. Meyer sounded like he just wanted a lot of money, money the red sox have and do spend on the draft
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dustin Brader
RHP, Arizona State University, 6’4”, 220 lbs.
by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
at leat his big
anyone know anything else?
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I'll have to watch the Fresno State-ASU series in the super regionals a little more closely now
So we’ve got Brader and Justin Miller on opposite teams
by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://thesundevils.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/brader_dustin00.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV1Yz5lP5cU
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was watching that youtube video when you posted the link
Meh performance… ugly ERA too. That was a year ago, though.
by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
it looks like we are officially back to college seniors. 2 high schoolers and 1 junior college player through 15 rounds today.
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was on his 2nd year there...should only be like 20
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
damn, wasnt even good enough to go back to a D1 school
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was going to either the DII OR DIII top team in the nation
DII or DIII you get more money becasue they are “grants” not scholarships
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of rice pitchers
how many have been picked?
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 1:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think about 5
Price, St Clair, Bell, Langwell, and that Luetge(?) guy. Jared Gayhart was drafted as a pitcher, but I don’t remember him pitching too much there.
St Clair and Langwell are seniors, and Price was a high pick (2nd round), so they will sign.
Rice’s pitching dpeth this year is mostly sophomores and freshmen.
by JBImaknee on Jun 6, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
someone from my HS just got drafted. Patrick Palmeiro (son of that guy). I guess that might have happened before but not while I’ve been following the draft
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 1:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
best i got right now from my old HS is Hunter Pence
and we suck at baseball at AHS.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm from Yankton, South Dakota
our only claim to fame is Tom Brokaw
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey thats not bad at all.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think we suck at baseball as well
honestly, he might be the first. anybody know of a sight where i can minor leaguers by high school?
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Martin signed somewhere as well from arlington high
but hes still in the minors
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My high school's claim to fame? Jason Botts.
by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you find out who would be the biggest name
from your school?
by Coolbean04 on Jun 6, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball Reference
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jun 6, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From my School
1967 – Walter Evanik 31 round 595 pick
1970 – Kenneth Forfar 22 round 531pick
1973 – Robert Wasilak 27th round 604 pick
1973 – Bob Stanley 9th round 210 pick
1974 – Bob Stanley 1st round 7th pick
Man our history sucks. Best player is Bob Stanley, anyone heard of him?
by Coolbean04 on Jun 6, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt bob stanley used to be a pretty good catcher? nah im thinking mike stanley
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His stats show
115-97, 3.64 ERA, 1.36 WHIP and 132 SV’s.
by Coolbean04 on Jun 6, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I looked at the history for NJ
Damn, NJ sucks at baseball as a whole. Our all-time best player I think is Al Leiter haha. Craig Biggio did go to Seton Hall but that doesn’t count since he wasn’t born in NJ.
by Coolbean04 on Jun 6, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My school:
1998 Jason Botts 28th round 849th pick
2001 Brent Burger 26th round 773rd pick
2002 Steven Guerra 40th round 1186th pick
2004 Casey Larson 46th round 1364th pick
2006 Matthew Drummond 35th round 1045th pick
all drafted by the Orioles… I know the local Orioles scout (except he switched to the Dodgers a year or two ago) so that makes some sense.
I’m guessing some of these guys were drafted out of high school and drafted again out of college… I’m sure that’s how Botts ended up in the Rangers’ system.
/me checks Botts’ B-R page
Geez… drafted in the 26th round one year and the 46th round the next… guess college didn’t work out so well for him.
by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://latechsports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/cobb_adam00.html
Player AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%
Cobb, Adam....... .333 53-52 222 44 74 11 2 8 38 113 .509 22 1 46 4 .396 0 2 11-15 132 2 5 .964"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
another Hurley!
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Trevor Hurley 6'3'' 221 KSU
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
np shroomer, just trying to find all we can about the guys
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummm
is danks still out there? mlb’s draft tracker doesnt show him as being taken
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Jun 6, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
still available i think
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cancel taht
went at 210. evidently i cant read.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Jun 6, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the sox continue snagging prepsters.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason Jarvis just got drafted and hes listed as "no school"
heh
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he got kicked out of Arizona
for disciplinary reasons
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants just drafted a guy with "no school" listed
Jason Jarvis, born 1987
by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
local guy still out there
jarred mckinney (157 on the top 200)
said he wanted 3rd rd $$, was a 5-8 rd projected pick. has a half scholarship to arkansas.
i HOPE we dont pick him…overrated as hell + has some warts (or used to)
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Jun 6, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
son of howie
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eric evans - LHP - radford univ.
eom
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Jun 6, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Player ERA W-L APP GS CG SHO/CBO SV IP H R ER BB SO 2B 3B HR AB B/Avg WP HBP BK SFA SHA
EVANS, Eric…...... 3.34 5-4 17 14 2 1/1 0 94.1 88 47 35 21 74 16 2 6 360 .244 4 5 0 2 4
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
we just picked a guy from a school called Radford
by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
5'7 LHP
probably did it just for the name
Rare Gnats Sex
by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how tall was DRH?
?
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Jun 6, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pit is having a pretty good draft too
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they are going straight HS kids.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Cobb
center field, Louisiana Tech, 5’11” 185 lbs.
by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
http://latechsports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/cobb_adam00.html
Player AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%
Cobb, Adam....... .333 53-52 222 44 74 11 2 8 38 113 .509 22 1 46 4 .396 0 2 11-15 132 2 5 .964"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
crap try again
AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%
.333 53-52 222 44 74 11 2 8 38 113 .509 22 1 46 4 .396 0 2 11-15 132 2 5 .964
or link
http://latechsports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2007-2008/teamcume.html
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of the 24 picks so far
18 college guys, 5 high schoolers (3 of which were drafted on the 1st day), 1 jc
11 positions players-
3 listed as outfielders- 1 hs
3 shortstops- 1 hs, 1 jc
2 centerfielders
2 first baseman
1 catcher
13 pitchers-
6 lefties- 1 hs
7 righties- 2 hs
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 1:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
7 of college players
are seniors, including 4 of the last 5 picks
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tanner Roark - no school
glad we got one of those for ourselves
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by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
guess he's not so great with the academics
http://www.bigtennetwork.com/news/article.asp?list_id=29&story_id=15079
but I guess he used to be good
Rare Gnats Sex
by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's not even that good
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/R/Tanner-Roark.shtml
Rare Gnats Sex
by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like his K-BB total improved a lot from 2006 to 2007
I wish they had a BABIP listed… 10 of his runs were unearned in 2007, leading me to wonder just what kind of defense he had behind him
by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://fightingillini.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/roark_tanner00.html
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/R/Tanner-Roark.shtml
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did they take a break?
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy crap both pit and kc selected college guys…
its a miracle
yankees keep drafting kids
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just out of curiousity...Roll Call...How many people are following the Day 2 with us?
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think there is like 5 or 6 of us
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still here
although yesterday was better in pretty much every aspect
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup the whole deal where he have gone hardcore for signability with a couple exception on day 2 has bummed me out.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda expected it. If we sign the first 7 picks and Catner and Martinez I would be stoked!!
Those are the guys that really stand a chance to be great. The others, i can see a few potential relivers and some orginzational fodder
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A couple?
from what I can tell it has been one and one only, harold martinez.
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was trying to be generous heh
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I weed-eated the front yard during
but I’ve been keeping up on sunstroke breaks.
by shroomer on Jun 6, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am here
in and out lol
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Jun 6, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm checking in periodically
and reading you guys’ comments. I know nothing about pretty much all of these second day guys.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 6, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You reckon
you are missing much?
Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it
by DJCahill on Jun 6, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is BA or BP still doing a chat session today? or was that a day one deal only?
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm watching the draft tracker
and reading what you guys are saying. I know crap about these kids so I have no input.
by Coolbean04 on Jun 6, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats OK, to tell you the truth, some guys we know some guys we google. Feel free to post anyhting of intrest you find...
Join the party man, we are taking donations for strippers and pizza latter
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, im no expert, i just try to get a feel for the guy while i wait for the next pick.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know too much either
the Mighty Google FTW
by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2007 Draft - Decent picks made after round 25
Ortiz – 28th
Falcon – 29th
Ben Henry – 30th
Jared Hyatt – 33rd
by shroomer on Jun 6, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ben Henry went to my highschool. Interesting guy.
Saw him in the mall wearing all rangers gear, and wanted to steal it from him.
by psmitty on Jun 6, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok guys draft grade, whats yours?
for day 1?
for day 2?
mine would be a B+ for day 1 love smoak, like the HS kids but not that big on Ross when other better talent was there IMHO. drops from an A for not snagging melville.
day 2: C- only thing that keeps it off of D or lower is the Harold drafting.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on Jun 6, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
meh i think
day 1 is an A simply becuase we got smoak. that said melville would have been too much and getting ross instead is somewhat questionable (all things considered). i read that mellville missed a ton (25-35+) of practices and was throwing indoor in iowa which im sure impacted him on the mound. i dont know whast more of a dissapointment. not drafting mellville this year or not drafting effing jordan walden a few years ago
day 2 – all depends on if we sign martinez. i simply do not understand drafting a 5’ nothing’ infielder no matter how “good” he is. its one thing if its a pitcher who has shown he could at least be something (DRH) but are you shitting me?
surely were gonna sign harold martinez…right?
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Jun 6, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
correction
“melville would have been too much
meant mellville would have been GREAT (as in too good) but equally would have cost too much (wanted pick 10-15 money). i bet he goes to UNC….
even then though i dont understand ross. say he costs 1.25 mil (wants 1.5 i doubt he will get it) wouldnt paying 1.6ish to get mellville be worth it? to me most def. thats what, 350k? and isnt it worth it to sign mellville instead of throwing 350k at a latin guy? its not liek we had a ton of picks at the top of the draft and getting mellville there would have probably cemented us as having one hell of a day 1…and probably a consensus grade A for day 1 if we signed him
that said, we have got to sign harold martinez. throw money at him…do what the yankees did with suttle last year (i think thats who it was). PLEASE sign him.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Jun 6, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walden
was worse. I dont think his price tag was as high, plus he was a texas kid that went to the angels in the 8th round i believe.
Hollander is 5’9 sr middle infielder who went in the 20th round. herrera was a short pitcher with a great track record who went in the 44th or 46th round. Now i dont know hollanders stats but thats a tough comp. to make other than the height issue.
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well that was my point sorry
that he was 5’9’’ and the odds of a 5’9’’ player making the big leagues is VERYVERYVERY slim to none.
my point is that it sure was early to pick someone liek that, no matter what.
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Jun 6, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree completely
if anything I was just trying to further point out how disappointing a pick it was. I dont want to say it was bad because at this point I really know nothing about many of these players offhand.
by rchawk12 on Jun 6, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im still thining this is more of a favor thing at this point than anything else..
Would be worthwhile to get on the good side of LSU with the crop of kids that will be Jr’s there next year
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this seems ridiculous
sorry but it does. You still have to draft the players and to waste a 20th round pick to get on a college coach’s good side is ludicrous.