Some details on Ponson
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 6, 2008 9:21 PM CDT
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T.R. Sullivan with some details:
Daniels declined to discuss the specifics and Ponson was unavailable for comment, but team sources said Ponson was put on notice after creating a serious disturbance at the hotel bar in St. Petersburg during the team's last road trip. He was told that further problems would not be tolerated.
Two more incidents occurred this week. Ponson started with three days' rest on Wednesday against the Indians and allowed six runs in four innings. Only two were earned because of three errors committed behind him, and Ponson reacted furiously after being taken out. His actions were interpreted as "showing up" his teammates.
The second incident occurred when manager Ron Washington informed Ponson on Thursday that he would be pushed back in his next start so that Kevin Millwood could start Tuesday on his regular four days' rest. Ponson would have pitched on Wednesday on six days' rest. Ponson wasn't happy with that decision and made his feelings clear in a heated discussion with the manager.
That led the Rangers to the decision to drop Ponson before Friday's game with the Rays.
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good enough reason
the bar thing is really all you need
Rare Gnats Sex
by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 9:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahaha
Bar disturbance…
I should have known.
"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos
by miles on Jun 6, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ponson
wow, what an idiot. He talks all this stuff about being humbled and just wanting to play, but then acts like a little kid over the dumbest things. Its a shame that he can’t grow up, his stuff looked solid this year.
by Gdawg on Jun 6, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
This is exactly his MO that got him cut by the Orioles. I had hoped he had changed, but I guess not. Sorry it didn’t work out for you guys, you have every reason to be disgusted with this. I guess this means that I won’t be coming here anymore. I’m sorry about that as well, you guys have a really great board here.
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by Mary1966 on Jun 6, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad day for you
bizarro one for us.
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on Jun 6, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprising..
.I would have figured it was a disturbance at the hotel buffet. Apparently they ran out of egg rolls.
by Agreen07 on Jun 6, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like Sir Sidney was slipping back into his old ways
Good riddance.
by lonestarJon on Jun 6, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
still think we can trade him?
I feel like NY would want him and Hank might think that a stern talking to would do the trick.
his stuff is swtill awesome
Rare Gnats Sex
by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
seconded
Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .
by Brian Thomas on Jun 6, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap
I have been away from tv and internet for a few hours. I turn on the tv and see Laird at 3B and turn on the computer and Ponson is DFA’d. Is this karma balancing for the luck of getting Smoak?
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on Jun 6, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not sure if i missed this...
but who was called up as the reciprocating move? And what exactly is the status of the 40 man roster right now?
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
by tdi1985 on Jun 6, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, good call.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
by tdi1985 on Jun 6, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jury Duty
Adam, you want these guys on your jury?
Who needs evidence? Who waits for the story? Guilty Sidney…facts later.
If JD, for once, acts like he’s hit puberty and mans-up, then there must be fire!
For a group of stat/facts guys, these guys rollover from a wink and an irrational infatuation for the man who is worshipped by fantasy GM’s.
Oprah’s Army of Stepford Winfreys don’t hold a candle to this group of soap opera lovers.
Hey, do you guys have links or evidence before you jump to conclusions?
Yeah…thought not.
I don't know Karate...but I know Karazy!
by Clueless on Jun 7, 2008 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you kidding me???
all the fit’s of Mr. Ponson that were brought to the public’s attention were all lies…..yeah that’s believable…..it’s a conspiracy….yeah, thought not…...it’s not a trial smart ass, he got DFA’d because he had roid rage and went ApeShit on his manager and teammates
I was already suspicious of him when he refused to tell anybody how he lost the weight, went out of his way not to tell anybody…...just saying, has no influence on this here though….just thought that was very weird, usually guys are bragging on how they lost weight or that they’ve been working their ass off….
by slash on Jun 7, 2008 6:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ponson lost weight?
What world are you living in?
"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos
by miles on Jun 7, 2008 6:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta be kidding
Ponson isn’t juicing…but that is funny
During my 18 years I came to bat almost 10,000 times. I struck out about 1,700 times and walked maybe 1,800 times. You figure a ballplayer will average about 500 at bats a season. That means I played seven years without ever hitting the ball.
-- Mickey Mantle
by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 7, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only juicing Ponson was doing....
was gin-and-juice maybe :)
"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008
by Captain Fubar on Jun 7, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you nuts?
We all enjoyed Ponson pitching well while he was here, but this guy has a loooooong history of problems, so this should not be a complete surprise. Besides, if Sidney was innocent he could have talked to the press and said so. Instead he quietly cleaned out his locker and left.
You consistently live up to your username.
...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on Jun 7, 2008 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
The only other username on LSB that might be more fitting is “billybobisdrunk”.
by lonestarJon on Jun 7, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wish we would have tried to move him
before DFAing him. It seems there are teams who are a little pitching desperate who might have given up a C type prospect for him. now we will be lucky to get a bag of balls.
by clark on Jun 6, 2008 9:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I like this move. It shows:
a) that this type of crap isn’t going to be tolerated
and
b) that JD has the players’ backs.
If you act like a jackass you are going to get DFA’d. It sends a good message.
"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner
by trza on Jun 6, 2008 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Concur...
couldn’t agree more. Especially with someone like Ponson. As AB said, with his past the bar incident is enough to get his ass DFA’d, but the fact that this was on top of 2 other incidents this week is just icing on the cake.
Sure nice that you could show how “grateful” you were to the Rangers for giving you another chance that you act like a asshole at a bar and show up players on your team. Exit stage left dipshit.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 7, 2008 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As noted by Sullivan per JD
The move leaves the Rangers without a fifth starter. Because they are off on Monday, they won’t need a fifth starter until next Saturday at the latest, when they play the Mets at Shea Stadium. Daniels said it will likely be somebody called up from Triple A Oklahoma, either Kason Gabbard, Luis Mendoza, Dustin Nippert, Matt Harrison or Eric Hurley.
“We haven’t had a chance to discuss it yet,” Daniels said. “Obviously, in the position we’re in, the last thing you want is to lose a starter. We’ll find somebody who wants the ball and will take it every fifth day. We’ve got some young kids who want to do that. We’ll find somebody.”
by sidebar54 on Jun 6, 2008 9:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i guess that is counting Mathis as a fourth starter
that’s too bad.
by clark on Jun 6, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My idea:
Bring up Mendoza first and see if he really is our fourth or fifth guy like he was supposed to be… if he fails, bring up Hurley.
by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If i am not mistaken....
Mendoza will have another 4-5 rehab starts. They are keeping him on a STRICT pitch count to make sure his shoulder doesn’t flare up again. From everything I have read, he projects more as a middle reliever type anyhow.
by sidebar54 on Jun 6, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gabbard then?
I like the idea of giving one of our guys a last chance in the bigs while giving Hurley a few more AAA starts to make sure he’s got his shit together, then if Gabbard/Mendoza sucks it up, replace him with Hurley.
by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gabbard...
...seriously?... averaging a walk per inning?...
no thanks…
if we’re gonna suck balls pitching, we might as well do it with those who are pieces in this plan.
i officially believe.
by oc on Jun 6, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gabba Gabba hey
I take it you don’t consider Gabbard to be part of the plan? He has had some major league success and is still quite young. He has struggled but I wouldn’t rule him out yet.
by jparks77 on Jun 6, 2008 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yo Gabba Gabba...
You like that show?
"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos
by miles on Jun 6, 2008 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's only half the problem...
...Doug Mathis as your fifth starter?
i officially believe.
by oc on Jun 7, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah. The rotation sucks.
At least they have two decent starters, I guess. I’d go with Gabbard to replace fatso, but after that none of the options are particularly appealing.
I like Gabbard. I know he’s struggled, but I have to think if he can reign in a little command he’d be a serviceable starter. Mendoza may turn out alright once he’s ready.
Feldman? I’m not sure what to make of him but there’s not much of a choice except to keep on rolling him out there.
I’ve been saying for weeks the team isn’t going to go anywhere because they only have two starters who give them innings, and it’s not like you can expect 230+ from either of them. Even when things were going well they never managed to climb out of the cellar in innings pitched by starters. Bad sign.
by Black Francis on Jun 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Millwood, Padilla, Feldman, Gabbard, Mathis?
...my god…
i officially believe.
by oc on Jun 7, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hurley showed up in spring training and I felt he should have won that job,
but he didn’t. Is it possible that a player can play better in the majors than he was in the minors? And if so does this aplly to Hurley, who maybe is just struggling in AAA, but could greatly benefit from playing in Arlington.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 6, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have actually thought the exact same thing.....
There are many instances where guys are brought up and, for whatever reason, fair better in the majors. I have talked to a couple of guys who have played there and they said one thing about pitchers and hitters. In the bigs, hitters focus and concentrate on that “one pitch-one plane.” In the minors, hitters are much more “free swingers.”.......I am NOT saying this is true, however, I have been told this by a few former ballplayers.
As I stated in my post below. Hurley has shown immense poise, maturity and leadership on the baseball field throughout his time here as a Ranger minor leaguer. I think it’s time to reward those that have done so much. I think it’s better to focus on what he has done in his career than the one bad month in April. He has shown great control of his pitches in AAA, has developed a nasty “change,” and he has one big feather in his hat that quite a few Ranger pitchers are lacking right now: the ability to miss bats. I belive, the last time I checked, Hurley was second in the PCL in strikeouts. Him and Palmer (????) have been swinging back and forth for the strikeout lead.
Let’s give him a chance.
by sidebar54 on Jun 6, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Francisco
Lewin said he was hitting about .220 at Buffalo before being called up. I don’t know what he does against the rest of the league, but he kills Ranger pitching.
by T Coleman on Jun 6, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TAG
Said something that made me LOL at the first of the broadcast. It basically amounted to telling Ponson to keep his “big, fat mouth shut”!
I LOVE TAG!!
One Man, Five Lunches
by trekds9 on Jun 6, 2008 10:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
haha + 1
The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT
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by LAMuscleFag on Jun 6, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I laughed when I heard TAG say that too.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 7, 2008 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOO!!
We need Ponson back!! He can actually pitch. I wonder who is going to pick him up?
by BillyBobisdrunk on Jun 6, 2008 10:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers don't like
Pitchers who can actually pitch.
Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it
by DJCahill on Jun 7, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you not agree...
with what the Rangers did to Ponson Cahill?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 7, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is
Ponson Cahill?
...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on Jun 7, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sidney and DJ had a kid...
...peed on it’s head, and named him Ponson Cahill…
c’mon…
by oc on Jun 7, 2008 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT
http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893
by LAMuscleFag on Jun 8, 2008 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
That was f’ing awesome. The comment of the day.
Ponson + Cahill would = match made in heaven.
by lonestarJon on Jun 8, 2008 3:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's...
a raging alcoholic who is extremely negative about everything?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 8, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got pissed
at the Rangers Shitty Defense? Hell, I think pitchers should start beating defenders with baseball bats after their craptastic play. Great leadership, Michael. Kick the ball, and then break your fingers when someone calls you out on it. That’s the kind of teamwork we need. Rally around the shitty defenders.
Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it
by DJCahill on Jun 8, 2008 6:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be pissed that's fine...
but don’t go around talking shit and causing drama in the clubhouse like a 16 year old girl.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 8, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fucking shit
could of won that game tonight with a walk off if we had decent bullpen help :[ i don’t know if its just a slump for the bullpen or if they really suck hopefully its just a slump.
by iorange555 on Jun 6, 2008 10:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the guys in the pen
I think they just suck. Benoit has always been horribly inconsistent so him sucking half the time and being great half the time is nothing new. Same with Frankie. Rupe has never shown much in the majors. Loe and Tejeda pretty much suck.
by uthornfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grant story
He challenged the Rangers to release him.
Woops.
Not the only black poster on LSB.
by sprite on Jun 6, 2008 10:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So....
Let me get this straight…
Ponson makes an ass outta himself on the road. Then starts on two days rest and gives up unearned runs because FOTF makes 2 errors. 2 days later, Ponson gets cut out of the middle of nowhere and FOTF gets scratched because of a bruise hand…?
Ponson makes a comment to MY who lands a punch upside the head of Sir Sid Bruised hand, sits out tonights game?? Gotta be, right?/
by Topgun22 on Jun 6, 2008 10:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
that sounds about right. I bet he said something shitty to MY and the fists flew.
Fists of the Franchise wins again!!! Beat it fatty!!
The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT
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by LAMuscleFag on Jun 6, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
on the KRLD Pre-Game Show with Victor
Daniels is reported as saying… Michael bruised his finger lifting weights…
sounds pretty bogus…
i officially believe.
by oc on Jun 6, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good
if his spot is taken by Harrison instead of Hurley, i’m bout to go miles on everyone…
by Longhorn on Jun 6, 2008 11:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you gonna go Miles?
OK let me put my hard hat on first… OK I’m ready…..GO MILES!!
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by LAMuscleFag on Jun 6, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
k, where do you live?
i’ll come beat you up.
by Longhorn on Jun 6, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Los Angeles..
but I’m in Dallas right now…bring the heavey artillery you’re gonna need it :)
The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT
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by LAMuscleFag on Jun 6, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
My money is on LAmuscle!!!!!!
by BillyBobisdrunk on Jun 6, 2008 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
none of this would've happened
if they’d played the rays at disneyworld again, the happiest place on earth
by tangiers on Jun 6, 2008 11:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't you think we had enough of that from the pen?
by Telegraph on Jun 6, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know
That he pronounces it Lawter right? I was heart broken when I found out! Good thing he turned out to be cool because the thing I liked best about him was his name (when I thought it was pronounced laughter!) LOL
http://www.mvn.com/milb-rangers
For old times sake...C'mon Kelly! :-)
by Beverly23 on Jun 7, 2008 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
k, saw NCFOM tonight
i guess that was the perfect ending to a movie like that?
by Longhorn on Jun 6, 2008 11:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
since
ponson started pitching for the rangers they have a great record so he could not have been doing too much damage
he is a solid a pitcher and its not like the rangers have good pitching so im not sure if i would have let him go
by nice hands on Jun 6, 2008 11:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AJM...
Have you noticed Ramirez’s numbers since Davis left? Still think protection is overrated? Wait until Josh loses Bradley, then answer…
by Topgun22 on Jun 6, 2008 11:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ditto
The Rangers should sign Bradley to an extension.
by BillyBobisdrunk on Jun 6, 2008 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley has Murphy behind him
and Bradley is the best offensive player in the AL.
by Longhorn on Jun 6, 2008 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell yeah
Murph has a couple of years before he is a free agent, my concern is with giving Bradley an extension. Love the Murph!!
by BillyBobisdrunk on Jun 6, 2008 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the point was murph isnt that much protection
Bring up Justin Smoak
by DSheppard on Jun 7, 2008 4:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murphy...
1) He is having a solid year. Granted he doesnt strike fear in the hearts of pitchers, but very solid.
2) Did you notice that Milton leads the team in BBs, and the AL in OBP? Do you think he would have as many BBs if Josh were hitting behind him? Thats protection, or lack thereof
by Topgun22 on Jun 7, 2008 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Post hoc ergo propter hoc?
Nice.
The 40 trumps all!!!
by thedirkatron on Jun 7, 2008 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I wasn't a fan of The West Wing.
I’d have no idea what you’re talking about.
Latin sucks.
by LiamP on Jun 7, 2008 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, \...
Dirkatron…
I agree, I can’t say that just because it happened after Davis’ promotion that was the cause, but can you say that it wasn’t the cause? Sometimes post hoc ergo propter hoc is a correct statement.
by Topgun22 on Jun 7, 2008 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like as in...
I can’t prove that the Cowboys passing offense sucked in the last 2 games because of T.O’s injury, but I’ve got a pretty good idea why it happened///
by Topgun22 on Jun 7, 2008 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
coincidence
is by far the most likely explanation. It is unreasonable to expect Ramirez to keep that kind of production up every single week. He’s had a slow week, and pitchers are probably tired of getting burned.
...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on Jun 7, 2008 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez
3-25 (with, oddly, 2 HR), 3 BB, 5 K.
I was ready to suggest he’s getting pitched around (which, on the surface, looks like an argument supporting protection in the batting order).
The HRs and the low BB rate suggest otherwise, plus he’s keeping the K rate down. I’d guess the balls are finding defenders’ gloves.
Small sample too, of course.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jun 7, 2008 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, his BB rate is up
at 14.7%. 2 walks in 21 PA’s is quite healthy, would mean about 80-90 walks over a full season. But his BABIP, which was an insane .471 in May, is an insanely low .091 thus far in June.
...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on Jun 7, 2008 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BB rate, K rate
That is a good BB rate, yeah.
And I guess 5 Ks over 25 ABs isn’t so great, on second glance.
It’s still too small a sample size. In conveniently, anyone following the guy knows his average is down, and it coincided with Davis’ promo. No big deal…The BABIP you got to figure settles out somewhere in between as the games pile up.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jun 7, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Young's finger is broken
but he will still play.
by iorange555 on Jun 7, 2008 12:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MY...
If he really did bust his finger on Sir Sid’s fat-ass face he will have to go back on my list of favorite Rangers with Josh, Board Game, Kins, and BGL.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 7, 2008 1:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ponson does resemble
a kettle ball.
...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on Jun 7, 2008 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Young
I have a friend who works for Fox Sports, and he said the word around the station was that Young took a shot or two at Ponson, and was sitting out last night’s game because of it.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Jun 7, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if that's true...
...then Daniels has lied to the media and the fans about Michael’s injury…
on the KRLD Pre-Game Show with Victor… Daniels is reported as saying… Michael bruised his finger lifting weights…
i officially believe.
by oc on Jun 7, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what did you expect him to say?
that a fist fight broke out? and i suppose it’s also plausible that he hurt his hand hitting ponson and didnt feel enough pain to hold him out of the game until his workout
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 7, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, if we're going to preach INTEGRITY, how about some FUCKING INTEGRITY?
“Michael bruised his right thumb… I’d like to go further into details about it… but, at this point, I can’t…. All I know is that it’s nothing too severe, and that he’ll be back in the line-up soon…”
i officially believe.
by oc on Jun 7, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Young
But wouldn’t a comment like that cause just as much speculation as the “he got hurt lifting weights” comment?
If Young really smacked Ponson in the mouth, I’m sure it’ll get out eventually, but I’m sure JD doesn’t want to air the team’s dirty laundry in public any more than he has to.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Jun 7, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd rather have no comment and speculation than a lie...
but, that’s just me…
i officially believe.
by oc on Jun 7, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, then keep in mind
that RC’s “friend” at Fox is engaging in speculation.
...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on Jun 7, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
My friend is a cameraman/video producer who works part-time for FSSW- I’d imagine he heard the story from someone in the newsroom. I certainly wouldn’t consider the story anywhere near 100% reliable, though it sounds as plausible as any of the other rumors that are flying around right now.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Jun 7, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
is your source as reliable as miles’ sources in Cincinnati ? If not i’m not interested, because no one is above those secret sources
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 7, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO Miles has the ultimate sources...
It’s as simple as that like Miles says :)
The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT
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by LAMuscleFag on Jun 7, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My "source"
I’ve known the guy for several years. I wouldn’t consider him a source by journalistic standards, but he generally gets some good scoops on breaking Rangers news- nothing that wouldn’t be posted here or on Jamey’s site the same day, but working for FSSW, he does get the news a little quicker than most.
As for the story, I’d definitely want to hear additional confirmation from other sources before proclaiming it true. At this point, it’s no more valid than any of the other stories we’ve all been hearing about the situation, and I wouldn’t pretend otherwise.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Jun 7, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ask him if he could get me a job as a cameraman...
...i have experience… and a degree…
i officially believe.
by oc on Jun 7, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally...
I expect a g.m. to lie about stuff. That’s part of his job.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 7, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT
http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893
by LAMuscleFag on Jun 7, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if he didn't
we’d have a dozen people here posting about how he threw his players under the bus.
...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on Jun 7, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be pretty cool.
Young looks like the type of guy who can take a lot, but there is a certain point at which he’ll just unleash on them.
Heck, if Sidney was drunk and going after one of the younger kids (i.e., Boggs, Hamilton, Murphy) and Young took a pop at him, then IMHO he just earned about half of that fat contract right there…
by JBImaknee on Jun 7, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
love live Fists of the Franchise!!!
The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT
http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893
by LAMuscleFag on Jun 7, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i so want to hear this turn out to be true
Bring up Justin Smoak
by DSheppard on Jun 7, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rally round the flag (sic)
What a joke!
Shenanigans won’t be tolerated?
Great forceful move, JD!
Who’s the man?
The bar thing is all you need?
What a JD Circle-J you guys pull!
Embarassing.
I don't know Karate...but I know Karazy!
by Clueless on Jun 7, 2008 1:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What action
would you have suggested? Enlighten us, please.
Have you actually read all the media reports on this? Do you think the “anonymous club sources” don’t know what they’re talking about? Daniels is being tight-lipped, but others in the clubhouse gave Grant, Sullivan and others some details. The whole organization seems to be in agreement on this, so I don’t see how you can say it’s just Daniels and that we’re all just gaga over anything he says on this. And a decision like this is not done solely by the GM. The entire coaching staff was in on it I’m sure, and Ryan may have been in the discussion as well.
God, you’re an idiot. Try thinking through these things instead of reflexively assuming we’re all just nodding at whatever Daniels says. This situation has next to nothing to do with him and everything to do with Ponson.
...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on Jun 7, 2008 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angry t ball is
FUN!
;)
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jun 7, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Concur...
Cluless is just that, and everything he posts removes all doubt.
It’s funny how he seems to be the only one to post anyhing that really upsets t ball.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 7, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if it had been Nolan
It’s all good right?
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by DaheelzCM on Jun 7, 2008 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Someone say shenanigans one more time.”
“Hey Farva whats the name of that place you always like to go?”
“Shenanigans!”
by clinton33 on Jun 7, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ponson got what he deserved ...
He deserved another shot … the Rangers gave him one … he pissed it away … and now he’s unemployed.
Gee, just like out here in the real world !!!
Guys like Ponson never seem to “get it” ... go through life thinking that just because they can play a sport, somehow they’re owed something.
Lay off the criticism of Jon Daniels on this one, ‘cause from what I’ve read, Nolan (aka God’s Uncle) was on board with this decision, too. It just hurts because of the numbers (Wins vs. Losses) Ponson had been able to put up. Apparently, all Sir Sid was really concerned about was himself, and to hell with everyone else.
Not the kind of person that I’d want around the youngsters we’re trying to break in up here.
But then again, I’m just a fan over here in SW Florida … what the hell do I know.
Character does matter !!! And it should matter to more of us than it does !!! I want the Rangers to win, and as soon as possible, but I’d also like to be proud of the character of the team when they do.
Go Rangers !!!
Yea, though we play in the valley of the shadow of defeat, we shall fear no team ... 'cause Nolan says so !!
by FloridaRangerFan on Jun 7, 2008 7:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
really?
If character matters then you have a long list of baseball HEROES that should be removed…
about 80% of current and past players. Character doesn’t get you to the World Series…
During my 18 years I came to bat almost 10,000 times. I struck out about 1,700 times and walked maybe 1,800 times. You figure a ballplayer will average about 500 at bats a season. That means I played seven years without ever hitting the ball.
-- Mickey Mantle
by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 7, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
talent and things to get away with
are tied together. Apparently Sid passed over how much crap he could do for his talent. Once you do that your done. Great players can get away with more stuff because they are great players. Marginal players have a much lower bar. We’ve seen that in multiple sports, maybe its not right but its what happens.
by JayK on Jun 7, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'e view is so myopic
seriously, shut the fuck up.
I have no problem with stupid people, but please keep your dumbness to yourself.
When you start spreading it around like this us “normals” get annoyed.
The 40 trumps all!!!
by thedirkatron on Jun 7, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
been reading a long time, i couldn't sit on the sidelines for this
I was rooting for Ponson to reestablish himself here in Texas.
What a drunk, fat, j.o.
What a selflish pos to sit in a hotel bar the night before a start, a start that EVERYONE in DFW knew had to be a long, good start due to the bullpen being evaporated the previous 2-3 nights.
And then to lay an egg bc he’s got the 12 pack flu, and furthermore to whine about having to adjust his pitching schedule to accomadate the leader on the pitching staff (Milwood).
The dude is a drunk, I hope he gets the help he needs before he moves to the next team, I wonder if a team that signs him next will make him dry out or something.
Very disappointed, but looking to hear the whole story to see if MY “based” his fat a**. Hopefully MY is not going to show up to the game with two black eyes….then we’ll really know what went down.
Milton would have ripped fatboys head off.
Ryan A
by Ryin A on Jun 7, 2008 8:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this move puts more pressure...
...on what is already the worst pitching staff in the league…
this is going to get very bad very fast…
i officially believe.
by oc on Jun 7, 2008 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Of course this move makes this team worse for the rest of 2008. Heck, it removed our most obvious trade chip.
That is why I think whatever happened had to be done. Teams have it in their power to suspend players for pulling stunts like this – obviously his actions had gone beyond that. Those JD quotes are angry. Ponson obviously crossed several lines too many, so they give him the boot.
I’m very disappointed in this, but I don’t blame JD or Nolan or Wash. It is Sir Sidney’s fault.
now we just have to hope that Harrison and Hurley have some magic in them…
by JBImaknee on Jun 7, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
punishes the team
as much as Ponson. Aren’t there other alternatives to dealing with it? Didn’t JD say no team rules were broken?
by SteveP on Jun 7, 2008 12:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the alternative
is for the shitty D behind our pitchers to apologize for playing like t-ballers
by simplesimon on Jun 7, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ponson was a quick worker...
...coaches preach that to pitchers so the defense can stay sharp… on their toes…
i simply don’t understand how our defense could allow 12 unearned runs in 9 starts… to the fastest working pitcher on our staff…
i officially believe.
by oc on Jun 7, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, sure wish the other pitchers had picked up on that...Ponson's only redeeming quality
II Cor. 4:17-18
by TedFord on Jun 7, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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