Some details on Ponson

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 6, 2008 9:21 PM CDT

Daniels declined to discuss the specifics and Ponson was unavailable for comment, but team sources said Ponson was put on notice after creating a serious disturbance at the hotel bar in St. Petersburg during the team's last road trip. He was told that further problems would not be tolerated.

Two more incidents occurred this week. Ponson started with three days' rest on Wednesday against the Indians and allowed six runs in four innings. Only two were earned because of three errors committed behind him, and Ponson reacted furiously after being taken out. His actions were interpreted as "showing up" his teammates.

The second incident occurred when manager Ron Washington informed Ponson on Thursday that he would be pushed back in his next start so that Kevin Millwood could start Tuesday on his regular four days' rest. Ponson would have pitched on Wednesday on six days' rest. Ponson wasn't happy with that decision and made his feelings clear in a heated discussion with the manager.

That led the Rangers to the decision to drop Ponson before Friday's game with the Rays.

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good enough reason

the bar thing is really all you need

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 9:23 PM CDT 0 recs

Hahahahaha

Bar disturbance…

I should have known.

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 6, 2008 9:24 PM CDT 0 recs

wow, what an idiot. He talks all this stuff about being humbled and just wanting to play, but then acts like a little kid over the dumbest things. Its a shame that he can’t grow up, his stuff looked solid this year.

by Gdawg1 on Jun 6, 2008 9:24 PM CDT 0 recs

+1

This is exactly his MO that got him cut by the Orioles. I had hoped he had changed, but I guess not. Sorry it didn’t work out for you guys, you have every reason to be disgusted with this. I guess this means that I won’t be coming here anymore. I’m sorry about that as well, you guys have a really great board here.

Sponsor of the Sidney Ponson page at Baseball-Reference.com

by Mary1966 on Jun 6, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up 0 recs

Sad day for you

bizarro one for us.

...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 6, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

Surprising..

.I would have figured it was a disturbance at the hotel buffet. Apparently they ran out of egg rolls.

by Agreen07 on Jun 6, 2008 9:26 PM CDT 0 recs

Sounds like Sir Sidney was slipping back into his old ways

Good riddance.

A Lonestar in California

by lonestarJon on Jun 6, 2008 9:26 PM CDT 0 recs

So much for Ponson supposedly "taking one for the team" by going on three days' rest

He did so very reluctantly and unhappily.

What a waste.

Baseball Time in Arlington

by jamcadbury on Jun 6, 2008 9:28 PM CDT 0 recs

still think we can trade him?

I feel like NY would want him and Hank might think that a stern talking to would do the trick.

his stuff is swtill awesome

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on Jun 6, 2008 9:28 PM CDT 0 recs

No

Baseball Time in Arlington

by jamcadbury on Jun 6, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up 0 recs

seconded

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jun 6, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up 0 recs

Holy crap

I have been away from tv and internet for a few hours. I turn on the tv and see Laird at 3B and turn on the computer and Ponson is DFA’d. Is this karma balancing for the luck of getting Smoak?

...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 6, 2008 9:29 PM CDT 0 recs

not sure if i missed this...

but who was called up as the reciprocating move? And what exactly is the status of the 40 man roster right now?

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on Jun 6, 2008 9:32 PM CDT 0 recs

Nobody has been called up yet

Baseball Time in Arlington

by jamcadbury on Jun 6, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

Padilla

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 6, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

oh, good call.

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on Jun 6, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

Jury Duty

Adam, you want these guys on your jury?
Who needs evidence? Who waits for the story? Guilty Sidney…facts later.
If JD, for once, acts like he’s hit puberty and mans-up, then there must be fire!
For a group of stat/facts guys, these guys rollover from a wink and an irrational infatuation for the man who is worshipped by fantasy GM’s.
Oprah’s Army of Stepford Winfreys don’t hold a candle to this group of soap opera lovers.

Hey, do you guys have links or evidence before you jump to conclusions?
Yeah…thought not.

I don't know Karate...but I know Karazy!

by Clueless on Jun 7, 2008 2:04 AM CDT up 0 recs

are you kidding me???

all the fit’s of Mr. Ponson that were brought to the public’s attention were all lies…..yeah that’s believable…..it’s a conspiracy….yeah, thought not…...it’s not a trial smart ass, he got DFA’d because he had roid rage and went ApeShit on his manager and teammates

I was already suspicious of him when he refused to tell anybody how he lost the weight, went out of his way not to tell anybody…...just saying, has no influence on this here though….just thought that was very weird, usually guys are bragging on how they lost weight or that they’ve been working their ass off….

by slash on Jun 7, 2008 6:14 AM CDT up 0 recs

Ponson lost weight?

What world are you living in?

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 7, 2008 6:27 AM CDT up 0 recs

You gotta be kidding

Ponson isn’t juicing…but that is funny

During my 18 years I came to bat almost 10,000 times. I struck out about 1,700 times and walked maybe 1,800 times. You figure a ballplayer will average about 500 at bats a season. That means I played seven years without ever hitting the ball.
-- Mickey Mantle

by bosoxsiempregirl on Jun 7, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up 0 recs

the only juicing Ponson was doing....

was gin-and-juice maybe :)

"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008

by Captain Fubar on Jun 7, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up 0 recs

Are you nuts?

We all enjoyed Ponson pitching well while he was here, but this guy has a loooooong history of problems, so this should not be a complete surprise. Besides, if Sidney was innocent he could have talked to the press and said so. Instead he quietly cleaned out his locker and left.

You consistently live up to your username.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 7, 2008 7:13 AM CDT up 0 recs

+1

The only other username on LSB that might be more fitting is “billybobisdrunk”.

A Lonestar in California

by lonestarJon on Jun 7, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up 0 recs

Rangers don't need a 5th starter again till next Saturday or something

A Lonestar in California

by lonestarJon on Jun 6, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

i wish we would have tried to move him

before DFAing him. It seems there are teams who are a little pitching desperate who might have given up a C type prospect for him. now we will be lucky to get a bag of balls.

by clark on Jun 6, 2008 9:35 PM CDT 0 recs

I disagree

I like this move. It shows:

a) that this type of crap isn’t going to be tolerated

and

b) that JD has the players’ backs.

If you act like a jackass you are going to get DFA’d. It sends a good message.

"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner

by trza on Jun 6, 2008 11:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

Concur...

couldn’t agree more. Especially with someone like Ponson. As AB said, with his past the bar incident is enough to get his ass DFA’d, but the fact that this was on top of 2 other incidents this week is just icing on the cake.

Sure nice that you could show how “grateful” you were to the Rangers for giving you another chance that you act like a asshole at a bar and show up players on your team. Exit stage left dipshit.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 7, 2008 1:19 AM CDT up 0 recs

As noted by Sullivan per JD

The move leaves the Rangers without a fifth starter. Because they are off on Monday, they won’t need a fifth starter until next Saturday at the latest, when they play the Mets at Shea Stadium. Daniels said it will likely be somebody called up from Triple A Oklahoma, either Kason Gabbard, Luis Mendoza, Dustin Nippert, Matt Harrison or Eric Hurley.

“We haven’t had a chance to discuss it yet,” Daniels said. “Obviously, in the position we’re in, the last thing you want is to lose a starter. We’ll find somebody who wants the ball and will take it every fifth day. We’ve got some young kids who want to do that. We’ll find somebody.”

by sidebar54 on Jun 6, 2008 9:35 PM CDT 0 recs

i guess that is counting Mathis as a fourth starter

that’s too bad.

by clark on Jun 6, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

My idea:

Bring up Mendoza first and see if he really is our fourth or fifth guy like he was supposed to be… if he fails, bring up Hurley.

by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

If i am not mistaken....

Mendoza will have another 4-5 rehab starts. They are keeping him on a STRICT pitch count to make sure his shoulder doesn’t flare up again. From everything I have read, he projects more as a middle reliever type anyhow.

by sidebar54 on Jun 6, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up 0 recs

Gabbard then?

I like the idea of giving one of our guys a last chance in the bigs while giving Hurley a few more AAA starts to make sure he’s got his shit together, then if Gabbard/Mendoza sucks it up, replace him with Hurley.

by Inkara1 on Jun 6, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

Gabbard...

...seriously?... averaging a walk per inning?...

no thanks…

if we’re gonna suck balls pitching, we might as well do it with those who are pieces in this plan.

i officially believe.

by oc on Jun 6, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up 0 recs

Gabba Gabba hey

I take it you don’t consider Gabbard to be part of the plan? He has had some major league success and is still quite young. He has struggled but I wouldn’t rule him out yet.

Dalton

by jparks77 on Jun 6, 2008 11:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yo Gabba Gabba...

You like that show?

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 6, 2008 11:28 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ramones

Dalton

by jparks77 on Jun 6, 2008 11:30 PM CDT up 0 recs

Agreed

He’s who I’d go with.

by Black Francis on Jun 7, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up 0 recs

he's only half the problem...

...Doug Mathis as your fifth starter?

i officially believe.

by oc on Jun 7, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up 0 recs

Well, yeah. The rotation sucks.

At least they have two decent starters, I guess. I’d go with Gabbard to replace fatso, but after that none of the options are particularly appealing.

I like Gabbard. I know he’s struggled, but I have to think if he can reign in a little command he’d be a serviceable starter. Mendoza may turn out alright once he’s ready.

Feldman? I’m not sure what to make of him but there’s not much of a choice except to keep on rolling him out there.

I’ve been saying for weeks the team isn’t going to go anywhere because they only have two starters who give them innings, and it’s not like you can expect 230+ from either of them. Even when things were going well they never managed to climb out of the cellar in innings pitched by starters. Bad sign.

by Black Francis on Jun 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up 0 recs

Millwood, Padilla, Feldman, Gabbard, Mathis?

...my god…

i officially believe.

by oc on Jun 7, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up 0 recs

Hurley showed up in spring training and I felt he should have won that job,

but he didn’t. Is it possible that a player can play better in the majors than he was in the minors? And if so does this aplly to Hurley, who maybe is just struggling in AAA, but could greatly benefit from playing in Arlington.

The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ

by NYTXFAN on Jun 6, 2008 9:39 PM CDT 0 recs

I have actually thought the exact same thing.....

There are many instances where guys are brought up and, for whatever reason, fair better in the majors. I have talked to a couple of guys who have played there and they said one thing about pitchers and hitters. In the bigs, hitters focus and concentrate on that “one pitch-one plane.” In the minors, hitters are much more “free swingers.”.......I am NOT saying this is true, however, I have been told this by a few former ballplayers.

As I stated in my post below. Hurley has shown immense poise, maturity and leadership on the baseball field throughout his time here as a Ranger minor leaguer. I think it’s time to reward those that have done so much. I think it’s better to focus on what he has done in his career than the one bad month in April. He has shown great control of his pitches in AAA, has developed a nasty “change,” and he has one big feather in his hat that quite a few Ranger pitchers are lacking right now: the ability to miss bats. I belive, the last time I checked, Hurley was second in the PCL in strikeouts. Him and Palmer (????) have been swinging back and forth for the strikeout lead.

Let’s give him a chance.

by sidebar54 on Jun 6, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ben Francisco

Lewin said he was hitting about .220 at Buffalo before being called up. I don’t know what he does against the rest of the league, but he kills Ranger pitching.

by T Coleman on Jun 6, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up 0 recs

TAG

Said something that made me LOL at the first of the broadcast. It basically amounted to telling Ponson to keep his “big, fat mouth shut”!

I LOVE TAG!!

One Man, Five Lunches

by trekds9 on Jun 6, 2008 10:16 PM CDT 0 recs

haha + 1

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on Jun 6, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yeah...

I laughed when I heard TAG say that too.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 7, 2008 1:21 AM CDT up 0 recs

NOOOO!!

We need Ponson back!! He can actually pitch. I wonder who is going to pick him up?

by BillyBobisdrunk on Jun 6, 2008 10:25 PM CDT 0 recs

The Rangers don't like

Pitchers who can actually pitch.

Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it

by DJCahill on Jun 7, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up 0 recs

Do you not agree...

with what the Rangers did to Ponson Cahill?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 7, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

Who is

Ponson Cahill?

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 7, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

Sidney and DJ had a kid...

...peed on it’s head, and named him Ponson Cahill…

c’mon…

by oc on Jun 7, 2008 11:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

hahaha

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on Jun 8, 2008 12:24 AM CDT up 0 recs

That

was pretty funny.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 8, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

LMAO

That was f’ing awesome. The comment of the day.

Ponson + Cahill would = match made in heaven.

A Lonestar in California

by lonestarJon on Jun 8, 2008 3:09 AM CDT up 0 recs

He's...

a raging alcoholic who is extremely negative about everything?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 8, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up 0 recs

He got pissed

at the Rangers Shitty Defense? Hell, I think pitchers should start beating defenders with baseball bats after their craptastic play. Great leadership, Michael. Kick the ball, and then break your fingers when someone calls you out on it. That’s the kind of teamwork we need. Rally around the shitty defenders.

Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it

by DJCahill on Jun 8, 2008 6:47 AM CDT up 0 recs

+1

I would have been pissed as well if I were Ponson.

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 8, 2008 8:07 AM CDT up 0 recs

Be pissed that's fine...

but don’t go around talking shit and causing drama in the clubhouse like a 16 year old girl.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 8, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up 0 recs

+1

How Sidney called out the defense wasn’t appropriate.

Sponsor of the Sidney Ponson page at Baseball-Reference.com

by Mary1966 on Jun 8, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

fucking shit

could of won that game tonight with a walk off if we had decent bullpen help :[ i don’t know if its just a slump for the bullpen or if they really suck hopefully its just a slump.

by iorange555 on Jun 6, 2008 10:32 PM CDT 0 recs

Looking at the guys in the pen

I think they just suck. Benoit has always been horribly inconsistent so him sucking half the time and being great half the time is nothing new. Same with Frankie. Rupe has never shown much in the majors. Loe and Tejeda pretty much suck.

by uthornfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

Grant story

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/060608dnspoponson.2e2175a.html

He challenged the Rangers to release him.

Woops.

Not the only black poster on LSB.

by sprite on Jun 6, 2008 10:47 PM CDT 0 recs

So....

Let me get this straight…

Ponson makes an ass outta himself on the road. Then starts on two days rest and gives up unearned runs because FOTF makes 2 errors. 2 days later, Ponson gets cut out of the middle of nowhere and FOTF gets scratched because of a bruise hand…?
Ponson makes a comment to MY who lands a punch upside the head of Sir Sid Bruised hand, sits out tonights game?? Gotta be, right?/

by Topgun22 on Jun 6, 2008 10:48 PM CDT 0 recs