The MLBPA has stones

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2008 1:16 PM CDT Comment 24 comments

The baseball union is filing a grievance on behalf of Shawn Chacon.

Chacon, you may remember, went all Latrell Sprewell on Astros g.m. Ed Wade, leading to Chacon being released, and his contract terminated under the "don't act like an a-hole" clause (I'm paraphrasing, of course).

The union says the termination was improper, and that the Astros need to pay Chacon the $983,607 still owed on his $2 million salary this year.

So, yeah...good luck with that...

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MLBPA was talking about that immediately after it happened

i guess ed wade chewing out chacon in front of the team is an extenuating circumstance. I find it remarkable how many people in sports (or in general) think it is perfectly alright to resort to physical violence when they get into verbal altercations.

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by ab03 on Jul 1, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that's a good point

I often forget that these guys are jocks and not the most thoughtful folks on the planet.

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by trza on Jul 1, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's what the union is suppose to do.

Dino Radja >>> Soft Nowitzki

by Longhorn on Jul 1, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

im glad im not the union guy

who is set to defend all the idiot a hole players when the f up.

kinda OT but, out of curiousity, did the MLBPA fight lugo’s being DFA’d when he bounced his wife’s head off their bumper in the Astros parking lot?

its gotta be a crap job to defend dome of these guys, union or not.

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-Miles 6/21/08

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by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry poorly written i guess my point was:

can you imagine being the poor lawyer sent to defend these idiots time after time…

at some point is has to become comical.

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

eh

i’m sympathetic.

i know if i choke my boss and get fired, i’d like to get a year’s pay

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by gossamer on Jul 1, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

by his own admission

technically a verbal assault started by Wade. I kinda think Chacon is getting his money.

Dino Radja >>> Soft Nowitzki

by Longhorn on Jul 1, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Manny Ramirez just gave them a case.

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. —Manny Ramirez said he patched things up with a Boston Red Sox employee he reportedly shoved to the ground during an argument, and the club said the matter is over.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3468226

Assault should be treated the same, will be the theory.

by theblackpearl on Jul 1, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

um...

no way. manny is a star. the the employee is not the manager.

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by gossamer on Jul 1, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Union has no say in the Manny situation because he didn't get released

by Inkara1 on Jul 1, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What they should be filing a grievance for

is that Ed Wade is employed by the team in any capacity.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 1, 2008 1:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

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by Captain Fubar on Jul 1, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

by Agreen07 on Jul 1, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Typical of just about any union

by bdavison94 on Jul 1, 2008 1:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't feel like making a diary

Hindman is reporting over at the DMN blog that Hunter has been promoted to OKC.
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/07/tommy-hunter-a-redhawk.html

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

nice

good 1st round for mjh.

Dino Radja >>> Soft Nowitzki

by Longhorn on Jul 1, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

For you lawyers...

Has Ed Wade pressed charges for assault? I have not seen anything that says he has. As such, if the Astros claim Chacon was released because he assualted Wade, wouldn’t wade have to press charges? Legally speaking, does assault only exist if charges are filed?

by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 1, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not a criminal attorney; but an attorney

Wade doesn’t have to press charges if the the city/county/state has enough evidence. And Wade doesn’t have to press charges if he doesn’t want to.

What you often see is the abused wife who refuses to testify (AJM probably knows more than me since he does some family law). You can’t compel one spouse to testify against the other but you could subpoena Wade.

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by WyoRanger on Jul 1, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Term "Assault"

In their defense, can the Astros use the term “assault”, or does that carry legal specifications that is dependent upon what the city/state does with regard to Chacon choking Wade?

by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 1, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just a contract action now

And the Astros will probably do all they can to win the case, so if they have to use the word battery they will (battery being the actual contact). However, just because the Astros allege a battery doesn’t mean the state/county/city has to file charges. It’s still just an allegation.

JD drinks the Angels milkshake.

by WyoRanger on Jul 1, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm for the union here

because I hate the Astros

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by Wes Cox on Jul 1, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

BTF

Here’s a good post from Baseball Think Factory as to why the union did this:

Yeah, they have to file the grievance. The owners are not known for letting small precedents of labor law slide by them without exploitation.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 1, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Is the MLBPA...

the most powerful union in the country? I can’t think of one that tops it. Not that it matters in this case, they are a one-legged man in a ass kicking contest here.

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by slc ranger on Jul 2, 2008 1:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

not sure

hell if I know…

But I’m rather sure my wife would probably tell you that the National Education Association (NEA) is the most powerful labor union in the country. lol

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by hurlerhurley on Jul 3, 2008 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs