Its 20 Days till the trade Deadline, lets talk possiblities

Target Jake McGee

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 10:09 AM CDT 0 recs

Tommy John

Junior Mayberry

by jparks77 on Jul 11, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up 0 recs

Exactly

They may be willing to let him go, considering.

"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08

by badradiorules on Jul 11, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up 0 recs

Why would you want to trade for a guy that had TJ last week?

That makes no sense.

by LiamP on Jul 11, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up 0 recs

Because

He’s a 95 mph LH arm that would be untouchable otherwise. It’s not 1991, most guys come back pretty well from TJ. It makes perfect sense.

"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08

by badradiorules on Jul 11, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

It makes no sense

TB would be selling him at the point of lowest value.

We’d be buying a guy who needs a year or so to recuperate and who may or may not ever be as effective as he once was.

It’s illogical for either team.

by LiamP on Jul 11, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up 0 recs

Okay

So you’d rather get a middle of the road prospect over a guy that may take two years to be a stud.

It’s not illogical at all. You are buying extremely low on a top 20 (?) talent guy that will LIKELY return to form.

It makes sense for Tampa Bay because they are stacked talent wise and the fact that he is injured gives them a reason to sell him.

I’m not saying that they would do it, but you DEFINATELY don’t say no if his name is brought into the equation because he is hurt right now, which is what is being said above. It’s not a prospect for prospect deal a la McCarthy/Danks or Volquez/Hamilton. If you could turn a $5 mil (?) investment in Milton Bradley into Jacob McGee + something else and you don’t do it, you will regret it one day.

"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08

by badradiorules on Jul 11, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

McGee...

...even before the surgery, there were serious doubts he’d cut it as a starter.

people are projecting him as a reliever.

by oc on Jul 11, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up 0 recs

oh yeah

i do remember reading that somewhere now. So no Jake Mcgee.

Target Clayton Kershaw.. the hype has settled around him, maybe he could be had.

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 10:15 AM CDT 0 recs

Stop

We’re not getting Kershaw, we’re not getting Buchholz, we’re not getting Scherzer, and we’re not getting Rasmus.

MB is an injury prone 30 year old outfielder who has been protected at DH and who is a FA after thus year. No team will give up a top 3 pitching prospect or a top 3 OF prospect for that.

McGee had TJ last tuesday. Pass.

by LiamP on Jul 11, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up 0 recs

Add Cain and any of the current Rays' rotation to that list

by robert_d_wilfong on Jul 11, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up 0 recs

Forget MB...

I got an idea.

How about MY..

Michael Young, Vincente Padilla, Eddie Guardado, and a lower level prospect for Clayon Kershaw, Jonathon Broxton, and Andy Laroche.

Laroche plays 3rd, Vasquez at short until Andrus is ready.

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up 0 recs

If only JD could pull that one off...

by jcir454 on Jul 11, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up 0 recs

No, stop it.

Young is not going anywhere, and Kershaw is not going anywhere either. Get realistic.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 11, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up 0 recs

You might be suprised..

about Young being available for the right deal.

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up 0 recs

Example please?

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Jul 11, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up 0 recs

Well..

Any team that needs a shortstop and has a stud young pitcher major league ready.

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up 0 recs

No team is going to trade a stud pitcher for MY

And the Rangers aren’t going to give him away for scrubs.

That is why a trade isn’t going to happen.

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Jul 11, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up 0 recs

It doesn't have to be straight up..

If that team needs a pitcher for right now… then Vincente Padilla could be included.. MY and the Pitcher would be just a start..

And like I said the right deal.. which means a very good pitcher would have to be involved, not a scrub.

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up 0 recs

Dude

No team is trading an ace pitcher for MY unless we include elite bats.

C.C. Sabathia —> LaPorta,Bryson, Jackson, PTBNL
Matt Garza --> Delmon Young
Josh Beckett—> Hanley Ramirez

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Jul 11, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up 0 recs

Elite Bats

Why would one be disinclined to send elite bats for elite pitching. Thats what the Rangers need.

baseBALLIN!

by kevzta on Jul 11, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

Sure

but not centered around MY.

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Jul 11, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ummm

Michael Young isn’t an elite bat???

200 hits for how many straight years?

He isn’t more elite than Delmon Young?

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up 0 recs

Nope. Not when salaries and age are factored in

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 11, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up 0 recs

Disagree..

Mike has at least 4 more years of good hitting left in him. Secondly salary won’t be a factor when it comes to teams like the Dodgers.

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

Dude come on

If the basis of your offer is MY/Padilla…you aren’t going to get even Kershaw’s jock.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 11, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up 0 recs

But..

we have the prospects to fill it out.

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up 0 recs

You said

MY, Padilla, Eddie, and a LOWER level prospect for Kershaw, Broxton, and LaRoche.

The Dodgers would laugh in your face.

That is just crazy.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 11, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up 0 recs

by lower level

I mean below Double A… so a Kasey Kiker, or Derrek Holland, or Wilmer Font. Maybe even two of those.

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up 0 recs

and i mean two out of the whole group..

from Short Season to High A..

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up 0 recs

Think of it this way

MY/Padilla/Eddie/Kiker/Holland is close to the equivalent of Andruw Jones/Penny/Beimel/and 2 good lower LA prospects.

Would you trade Davis/Harrison/MaxRam for that package?

C’mon be realistic here.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 11, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

you are a ..

over-rationalizer

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

Well sir

you let your dreams get in the way of realistc baseball conversations.

Look, the #1 most valuable commodity in baseball right now is a young, cheap, good SP.

LA is not going to trade one of those for some aging, overpriced veterans and some prospect. When you throw in a dominant setup guy, and a good 3B prospect—you have officially entered Idiotville.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 11, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

yeah..

youre right

by tyd3311 on Jul 11, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up 0 recs

Dude

Give up. You’re in over your head. MY has limited trade value. You have to find a younger, cheaper, higher ceiling bat to get a legit ace.

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Jul 11, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up 0 recs

Oh. My. God.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 11, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up 0 recs

Giggle.

by LiamP on Jul 11, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up 0 recs

I gave it 1 shot

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 11, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

Surprised

is definitely the word, for any of your proposals.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 11, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up 0 recs

I have no words.

Yeah, let’s do it.

by LiamP on Jul 11, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up 0 recs

That wouldn't happen

by Agreen07 on Jul 11, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up 0 recs

+10000

We aren’t getting any of those guys unless we start talking Chris Davis + Main…

by Agreen07 on Jul 11, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up 0 recs

Ugh

The abundance of redundant diaries is getting on my nerves. I think there was going to be more to the Hammer conversation, but it’s hard for that to happen with it pushed down the page. About 1/4 of these current diaries could be lumped into one. Most diaries are doing one of the following lately:

1. Hey I want to be the first to post some “big” news with little insight or evaluation!
2. I think I’m going to post some vague generalizations about what the Rangers need to do, such as listing teams without any realistic examples for a return!

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Jul 11, 2008 10:36 AM CDT 0 recs

+100000000

by LiamP on Jul 11, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up 0 recs

Just wait

until the trade deadline gets closer. Last year there were about 50 (and I am not exaggerating) diaries posted within about 36 hours of the trade deadline, many of them completely redundant.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 11, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up 0 recs

and we seem to have even more posters here now, so it’s going to be much much worse.
also now that posts are divided between posts and fanshots, makes the extra fanposts even worse because it pushes down actually decent pots.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 11, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up 0 recs

posts not pots

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 11, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up 0 recs

When there is actual substance

and the rumors actually name Rangers players, I don’t mind talking about it. But we haven’t even gotten that far.

by Agreen07 on Jul 11, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up 0 recs

Yep

I had the diary setting at 40 a page, which meant that a new diary lasted about 12 hours…

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 11, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up 0 recs

Did you hear Richie Sexson got released?

by JBImaknee on Jul 11, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up 0 recs

Here's a good rule of thumb...

...if you aren’t sure your fanpost about trades is necessary, don’t do it.

If you are 99% sure it’s necessary, don’t do it.

If you’re 100% sure it’s necessary, type it up, wait ten minutes, and if you’re still 100% sure it’s necessary… delete it.

Physician: Primum non nocere

Batter: First, make no out

by Chad Crudup on Jul 11, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up 0 recs

+1

These threads used to be somewhat entertaining when there was only one a week. Now it seems like three a day get posted. Half the trades proposed in them are incredibly unrealistic with no regards for the other teams needs.

As much as I’d like to trade Laird for Kershaw, Cat for Price, & Blalock for Bucholz it isn’t happening.

This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC

by nikpin on Jul 11, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

I guess

you could always stop reading them, unless of course you really like them, and have nothing better to do than getting on here and bitching like a little girl. just an option

by blueballlefty on Jul 11, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yah, when you piss down my back, I'll just tell myself it's raining

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 11, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

Did you read what I said?

I think there was going to be more to the Hammer conversation, but it’s hard for that to happen with it pushed down the page.

I was talking about an original thread getting pushed off the main page by this crap. Thus, severely limiting the potential it had. Get some comprehension skills.

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Jul 11, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up 0 recs

This is a baseball message board

why should i care about anything to do with the ticket…

by laxtonto on Jul 11, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

Baseball is a sport, right?

If you don’t care, don’t click on it.

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Jul 12, 2008 1:53 AM CDT up 0 recs

I havent, and wont dont worry.

When the ticket actaully begins following baseball, or for that matter actually gives a shit about sports in genral again instead of schtick well besides norm, ill listen again.

That might be the best thing about atelite radio, yu can always get what you want

by laxtonto on Jul 12, 2008 8:09 AM CDT up 0 recs

No way we get Scherzer for Milton Bradley

0%.

Bradley makes more sense going to Tampa Bay or another AL team cause if he’s in the NL he has to field everyday.

by Agreen07 on Jul 11, 2008 10:55 AM CDT 0 recs

Amen

We need to admit to ourselves that Bradley is not an outfielder, he is a DH, at least as far as this year’s trade market is concerned.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 11, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up 0 recs

and as for Scherzer

if the names Feliz, Kinsler or Hamilton aren’t mentioned, Scherzer ain’t coming to Arlington.

by Agreen07 on Jul 11, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up 0 recs

Bradley for Rasmus

Realistic for both sides?

It’s a no-brainer for the Rangers.

OK it would never happen. I just checked to see he’s definitely worked out his April and May issues. ANyway.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 11, 2008 11:04 AM CDT 0 recs

Vasquez

i really wonder what kind of value he would bring in a trade? i would think he would have quite a bit a value. what i would like to see the rangers do this deadline is not only sell everyday eddie, bradley,hank, vasquez , cat, bird, and laird, but i would like to see them packaged to get the maximum near ready pitching in return. for example, trade one of the mentioned vets with teagarden. package another with lemon. another with arias. so one and so on. trade from a position of excess to get better pitching. this will also allow the trading GM to say we are making this trade for both the push this year and without killing the future. i think this is something GM’s want to be able to tell thier owners and fans.

by sanangelofan on Jul 11, 2008 11:25 AM CDT 0 recs

I think you can take Bradley off the wish lists of any NL contenders...

...I don’t anticipate him playing full-time or even almost-full-time in the OF the rest of this year.

Physician: Primum non nocere

Batter: First, make no out

by Chad Crudup on Jul 11, 2008 11:45 AM CDT 0 recs

In an attempt to actually have a real conversation

arizona makes a lot of sense if they feel he can play the outfield. Byrnes is locked up long term anyways and they have upton and young, so they wont need him past this year and they can collect the draft picks to offset some of the cost while picking up the best bat on the market.

Forget about scherzer, I think we all know thats not happening. If I had my choice though I would take jarrod parker over him anyways. He is pitching well in low A, but not putting up eye popping numbers. This is how you get ace type potential in trades, get them before they blow up ala feliz. He could be untouchable, but I think they might/should be able to move him for an impact player like MB.

I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.

by rchawk12 on Jul 11, 2008 12:40 PM CDT 0 recs

If we trade MB

Logically, we’d get the most value from AL teams who can DH him. I don’t
see why any NL team would want to give up much of anything for him.

by LiamP on Jul 11, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

Thank you

He is a DH, no NL team is going to want him right now.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 11, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up 0 recs

are you a gm?

I find it hard to believe that no NL team will want him? I’ll buy into the argument that he might have lesser value to an NL team, but to say he they wont want him at all? Come on tball, you’re better than that.

I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.

by rchawk12 on Jul 11, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up 0 recs

Well he can't play the field for us right now

If I were a GM for a NL team I woudln’t want the risk either.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 11, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm not sure he cant

I think its more that we dont need him to. And yes it does help him not to have to play out there and get to dh. We have so many quality defensive outfielders we have the luxury of playing DH, so yes NL gms might value him less, but my point is that to say he doesnt have value is ludicrous.

I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.

by rchawk12 on Jul 11, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up 0 recs