The Mark Teixeira asking price
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 11, 2008 11:18 AM CDT
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PrintThe sad part is Teixeira is a guy [the Braves would] love to keep, and Teixeira never acts like a player who wants to leave. But Scott Boras has already sent signals that the free-agent asking price on Teixeira this winter will start at $23 million a year (theoretically for eight to 10 years). So the Braves know the one thing certain about Teixeira's trip through free agency is that it won't end with a return to Atlanta. Which will only make them more prone to hit the "ejector" button in this month if they think they can't win.
I like Mark Teixeira. I think he's a very good player...probably not great, but on that very good/great cusp.
But...$23 million a year for 8-10 years? Really?
I can't see even the Yanks or Orioles doing that.
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He won't get it, but
that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t ask for it. Some team might very well be stupid enough to approach that amount.
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teix
i think he ends up getting much closer to the type of contract the rangers offered him than the type of contract boras is asking for
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No way
Tampa would be able to pay to keep him in free agency
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Ah, my bad
but I still doubt they’d give up the farm for a guy who they’re not going to be able to resign anyways
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Prediction
He ends up in Baltimore for $180-$200 and talks about how he took less than he wanted to take in order to come home to Baltimore.
by robert_d_wilfong on Jul 11, 2008 11:38 AM CDT reply actions
You might be right about that and...
...if it comes true I’ll be laughing to myself.
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by Chad Crudup on Jul 11, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
He won't
but I hope he ends up with the Yankees; he and A-Rod deserve each other. It would be a stiff competition for least genuine/biggest prick in the clubhouse.
And the egos might be big enough to throw the Earth off it's axis as well.....
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by Captain Fubar on Jul 11, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Where Teixeira ranks
We went through all this last year, when people in Texas were convinced that he was a top 10 player in the league (after all, he’s demanding to be paid like that). My argument then, and now, is that he is likely no better than the fifth best first baseman in the league, and the drop off from him is not that great. No knock on Tex – it is just that 1b is easily the strongest position in baseball right now.
Easily better: Pujols, Berkman
Probably better: Monreau, Howard, Miggy Cabrera
Not much worse: Adrian Gonzalez, Derrick Lee, Kevin Youklis, Todd Helton
Rising stars: James Loney, Casey Kotchman, Conor Jackson, Prince Fielder,
The point is that baseball salaries are set by supply and demand. And there is a large supply of good 1b out there (probably the nicest supply in baseball right now) and a limited demand (only 30 teams), which drives his fair price down. Simple economics
The irony is that if Teixeira had moved to the outfield so that Texas could keep AGon and Tex, his value would probably be much higher now…
Teixeira's defense
will tack on dollars that many other 1B wouldn’t / won’t be able to earn.
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by inactive lsb user on Jul 11, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
His defense is good
but not obviously the best in the league. Albert Pujols, Adrian Gonzalez, Derrick Lee and Todd Helton are all easily as good or better than Tex.
Sorta agree
I do think Teix is one of the top 5 1B if you consider his D (Howard and Miggy isn’t good in that regard) but I think teams are doing a better job of developing from within. Look at the Rangers – they have Blalock, Davis and soon to be Smoak. Granted, none are Teix but they’re good enough to save $15 mill a year.
Given the current economy, I think salaries will plateau and Teix certainly won’t get what he wants. Of course, I’ve thought this for a while. Teix will get 19 for 6.
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
You are wrong about the probably better category
I’d take Tex over Morneau (worse defender) and Howard (strike outs are awful) easily. Tex is a top 4 1B easily.
Tex vs. ARod
Seeing as how he’s a Boras client and they’re asking for an ARod contract I decided to go and compare the two respectively in their age years.
Age 23 Tex OPS+ 102 ARod OPS+ 134
Age 24 Tex OPS+ 131 ARod OPS+ 162
Age 25 Tex OPS+ 144 GG ARod OPS+ 160
Age 26 Tex OPS+ 126 GG ARod OPS+ 158 GG
Age 27 Tex OPS+ 150 ARod OPS+ 147 GG
Age 28 Tex OPS+ 131 ARod OPS+ 131
Looking at that I don’t believe that he’s going to get what they’re asking for, but on the other hand that’s not a completely fair comparison. By the time ARod was 23 he was already into his 4th full season as a major leaguer. If you compare their first 6 full seasons as opposed to by age it’s a little more fair of a comparison, but I still don’t believe that he’s going to command what they want.
Well I can pretend to be Britney Spears. I'm already standing in urine and I'm with someone I don't like.
23 M/ Yr - what flavor of crack is Boras smoking ?
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C'mon
I can’t see even the Yanks or Orioles doing that.
The Yankees payroll is unlimited. If he is construed as the “best” option for their first base problem this offseason, they will pay him and Boras whatever they want.
Baltimore on the other hand… I don’t see why they would sign him at all – they’re rebuilding, remember?
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Yo Adrian
Take Gonzalez out of SD and he is better then Teixeira. Ans Adrian shows up in Apr/May.
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Tex is still better at this point, but not by much
They have similar OPS+ (which is park-adjusted), but Tex has higher on base percentage. I’d like to see Adrian’s OBP to get into the .370 range, but it has not gotten perceptively better over the last couple of years.
Nevertheless, the gap in reality between the two is much smaller than the gap in perception, and given Adrian’s contract status, he is probably more “valuable” at this point.
That's the asking price
what he’ll end up signing for should be far different, Boras is simply drawing a line in the ground on where he’ll start.
Seattle...
if they think they can compete next year???
I’d laugh my ass off if they offered 23 mil a year for 10 to Tex
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Tex will be like A-Rod
A go for the money nomad who never wins a championship. They were both asses in the clubhouse and the team they left behing in Arlington is better for not having either of them.
He NEVER shows up until mid-June when the pressure of a pennant race is over. I recall the article awhile back that showed the Rangers and Braves were basically even record-wise after the trade. That says ALOT about his value… a nice player to have, but not required signing to guarantee a championship.
Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!
I bet the Yanks...
will give him 200 mil for 9 years.
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