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You know, I keep hoping that, one of these days, the Rangers will get out to a big lead and not end up making it interesting at the end.  A win is a win but, geez...

C.J. Wilson said Ozzie Guillen was taunting him from the dugout in the 9th, which inspired him to crank it up and get out of the 9th.

I'm not pushing the panic button on Wilson yet -- I'd keep rolling with him as the closer, although part of the reason, I will admit, is that I don't think there are any better long-term options on the Rangers right now.  But I also don't buy into the "it doesn't matter as long as he converts saves" argument, either...he's dodged some bullets this year, but he's not going to be able to keep pitching like he has in the first half of the season and have long-term success. 

Scott Feldman will not make a start in the minors over the break, as had been speculated.  It is still up in the air whether he'll be in the rotation or the bullpen when he is activated after the break.

Gil Lebreton says this isn't a playoff team, because the pitching isn't good enough. 

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i saw C.J. yelling and gesturing towards the dugout

I wasn’t aware that it was Ozzie though. I was kind of thinking that it was a douchey thing to do, but if he was provoked by that jackass, then I have no issues with it.

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by willamos2 on Jul 14, 2008 10:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On Television

They were showing that idiot Guillen talking at the mound and lauuuughing during the ninth when Thome came up to bat. I really, REALLY hate Ozzie Guillen, and even though I thought Wilson’s gesticulating towards the White Sox dugout was a little in poor taste, since it was directed at Ozzie, I love it. LOVE taunting Guillen.

by FuturePants on Jul 14, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

IF that's what it takes for CJ to actually pitch well...

then we should look into hiring Ozzie once his mouth gets him run out of Chicago.

by Inkara1 on Jul 14, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a playoff team?

Probably not, but maybe. With the offense clicking it could be a WC team.

Not a team that could win in the playoffs though. Not at all. Toss a couple of lefties at us and we’re DUN among many other issues this team wouldn’t be able to overcome in a series.

by bdavison94 on Jul 14, 2008 10:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

CJ

I think he is closer to losing the closing job than to finding his stuff. I think closers and saves are the most ridiculously contrived position/stat in baseball. However within the premise that we aren’t going to go with some new reliever philosophy I think that you can leave him out there because it is kind of a waste to trade for a reliever. Unless you find some sucker team to trade for him as a “closer”.

At this point I feel more comfortable with Eddie, Frankie, Littleton, Rupe, Wright, and Mendoza on the mound than Wilson and that is not how you should feel about the key cog in the bullpen

by bushe on Jul 14, 2008 10:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

CJ

He’s just not good. I hope he figures it out because if we finish strong this year and win 85ish games then I’m going to have expectations of a possible pennant race next year and we will need a closer.

by bdavison94 on Jul 14, 2008 10:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if we win 85 games

that wouldnt be finishing strong, that would be finishing just two games over .500 after the ASB. This isn’t a bad team, for us to finish strong we would have to win 90-95 games!

by blueballlefty on Jul 14, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering....

that would be about a .570 pace since April I consider that “finishing” strong. Not just the last 66 games.

by bdavison94 on Jul 14, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just the way you said

“IF” we finish strong made me think that you were throwing out pre ASB records! To me we have to win 90 games now for me to say we finished STRONG. Thats just me though, I am also one of those guys that think we have a chance to make the playoffs and should, play the rest of the season accordingly!

by blueballlefty on Jul 14, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understood...

why you thought that.

I also think this team has an outside shot at the playoffs right now, as I said above. They’d get boot stomped in the playoffs but they could make it.

by bdavison94 on Jul 14, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That entire game

was a farce, and Wilson’s performance encapsulated the rank incompetence of the pitching from both teams. Those who argue he pitches well in tenser situations are basically saying he’s “clutch”, bullshit. Clutch would have been going out and shutting down the White Sox in 10 pitches and getting your team off the field and into the clubhouse sooner.

The most important factor for the team to contend is not pitching, it’s health. The rotation has zero chance of succeeding if they can’t stay healthy. This year has been just incredible on the injury front.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 14, 2008 10:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wilson

Theres no denying he has not been sharp in non-save situations. Hes not been sharp in some save situations either. But in the end if the game is on the line and we are up by a run he seems to be able to close the door. The two strikeouts looking yesterday were great. should we have been in that position needing that after having a 4 run lead going into the 9th…no not at all. But you know what we still got the W. Hes only blown 2 save opportunities all year. Even the great KRod has blown more. Not saying hes better than KRod but in tight games when we need the outs he seems to get them.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 14, 2008 10:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

whip

KRod has a 1.26 Whip, Wilson has a 1.57 Whip and (for comparison) Rivera has 0.64 Whip. Neither KRod or Wilson have been shutting them down lately. Both have been lucky at times, but CJ more so.

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by DerekSTheRed on Jul 14, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

K-rod has a lot more save opportunities than CJ does

CJ is 22-for-24 in save opportunities. K-Rod is 38-for-41. Technically, K-Rod has blown more, but he’s also 17 more chances to do so and has only blown one more save. CJ converts 91.7 percent of his save opportunities, K-Rod converts 92.7 percent.

by Inkara1 on Jul 14, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davis to Olympics

Per Lebreton’s article:

Chris Davis’ debut has been wildly encouraging, but it would behoove the organization to allow him to join the U.S. Olympic baseball team for the next six weeks.

Davis would benefit, and it would free a lineup spot for Blalock or Catalanotto. The rookie could rejoin the team in September.

I wasn’t aware Davis was a possibility for the Olympics. When would he go and how long would he be away from the team?

Derek

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by DerekSTheRed on Jul 14, 2008 10:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

six weeks

Correction, it’s obviously six weeks, but when would it start?

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by DerekSTheRed on Jul 14, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought that was interesting as well

I think that’d be a tough decision to make though. Wouldn’t it benefit Davis more to see MLB pitching everyday?

I understand that it would free up a spot for Blalock/Cat, but I think getting anything significant for them is a pipedream anyway.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 14, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

'Scuse my french

But fuck the Olympics. If I where the Rangers, I could less about winning any damn medals in China when it comes to the development of our top positional prospect. IMO, sending him halfway across the world the Olympics until September is worse than sending him to AAA, prestige of the experience be damned. Davis stays here.

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by lonestarJon on Jul 14, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davis to Olympics

This idea seems about as horrible as moving Blalock to first base.

Neither of these moves provide any benefit for the Rangers.

Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.

by tricer on Jul 14, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you

Blalock can go to the Olympics instead of Davis.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 14, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.

by rchawk12 on Jul 14, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davis can't go because the Olympics use HGH testing

kidding

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by willamos2 on Jul 14, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mitch Williams

I remember the early days of Mitch Williams. He was exactly like CJ in wild drama. Eventually Mitch settled down and improved. I see the concern too, but, let’s be patient with pitchers. Worst case, someone else will emerge.

by 3Bagger on Jul 14, 2008 10:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

would have hoped that he turned out better than mitch williams

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 14, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know....

Mitch had 6 really solid years. Then Joe Carter destroyed his career. As fickle as closers are (unless you’re talking the elite) I’d take that.

by bdavison94 on Jul 14, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dunno

i look at his WHIPs and cringe

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 14, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

upon further review......

I do too. Really only in ‘91 was he pretty good.

by bdavison94 on Jul 14, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mitch

Yeah, I guess his stats don’t impress so much. That said, I hate to see people turn-on CJ so quickly. Most people were ready to shoot Volquez for control problems. Brad Lidge looked horrible for a spell, now looks great. I think CJ is worth a try.

by 3Bagger on Jul 14, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The issue for me is this

It is a combination of CJ’s problems and Wash’s inability to pull a guy when he gets in deep doo-doo. If I knew that one or more baserunners would result in the thook from Wash, CJ’s outings would not be nearly as stressful to watch.

But Wash has repeatedly shown that he can’t/won’t pull guys when they clearly don’t have it that day, so no matter how badly CJ implodes, he’s probably still going to be out there.

I’m torn between thinking that Wash wants to let guys learn to pitch themselves out of trouble, or that he just doesn’t know how to manage pitching staffs.

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by lisa w on Jul 14, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you don't pull your closer unless he blows it

thats a pretty hard-and-fast baseball rule

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 14, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mitch

When he was C.J.’s age, he was about a year from seeing his career completely implode.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 14, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AGE

Mitch was like Eric Clapton, way too young for the responsibilities placed upon him. I don’t look at a player’s age as an exact measure of their potential. David Murphy is a great example. GMJ. I think CJ has the character you look for, and he throws hard. Young players need time.

by 3Bagger on Jul 14, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw Mitch Williams once,,,,

at a Stepehville football game.

He was sitting in the stands, and you could here people ever so often yelling “Joe Carter”

I felt bad for the guy….you know he has to have a poster of Carter in his house that he wrote “KILL KILL” on and chopped the head off.

by clinton33 on Jul 14, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had a dream last night

that the Rangers traded Neftali Feliz for Franklin Morales and Joulys Chacin. Maybe it was a nightmare, actually.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 14, 2008 11:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I had a strange dream last night too

Seriously, I did. It involved Kameron Loe pitching to Josh Hamilton in the home run derby, but Josh kept getting hurt every time he swung. And then Burt Reynolds drove into the stadium in his firebird, and I woke up. (I watched Smokey and the Bandit last night, can ya tell?)

Anyway… I hope that’s not an omen.

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by lonestarJon on Jul 14, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So

Milton Bradley would be Sally Field? Nolan Ryan would be Buford T. Justice? J.D. would be Junior Justice? And John Hart would be Hal Needham?

by shroomer on Jul 14, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josh Rupe

Cooter.

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by t ball on Jul 14, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Ranger dream this weekend

involved me getting pissed at my wife and leaving to hang out with my buddy Frank Catalanotto. We drank like fish, and Frankie had a huge stash of porn, video games, and candy. Weird.

by SteveP on Jul 14, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Were you guys in a van with Miles and Mr. Santos?

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by txranger7 on Jul 14, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha very funny!!

especially the Miles and Mr. Santos part…ROFL

Milly I have no choice but to nickname you "The Laborer".
Every time I see you on the mound you're laboring through the inning.
You sure as hell don't labor when you hear Dunkin Donuts is closing in
15 minutes, sat there with a chocolate eclair with 5 minutes to spare.

by LAMuscleFag on Jul 14, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mustache of porn?

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 14, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had a

dream where CJ was throwing 99 mph.

by coolaid on Jul 14, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Warner Madrigal

he is closer material.

Warner Madrigal is the Rangers most underrated prospect by a longshot; he SHOULD be be closing games within 3 years IMO. Matt Harrison is underrated too.

by dstar442005 on Jul 14, 2008 11:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

But lets let him pitch for a couple years before throwing him into that situation

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 14, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont see it..

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by NYTXFAN on Jul 14, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CJ

Im mixed on him. I think he can be a decent closer but I dont think he is going to be great. As of right now, I think he would have to blow a lot more saves to lose his job. Frankie is the only one I can think of that I would possibly want at closer.

Eddie has been good but he isnt gonna be here long term and I think he is going to get hit a little more in the 2nd half.

by kumizi on Jul 14, 2008 11:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is that

Its not like he is tuning up 97 MPH heat that guys have to get used to. He lobs mid 80s stuff up there but he just flat out challenges hitters. hes a smart pitcher that knows how to pitch.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 14, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

smart hitters

will figure out how to hit him

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 14, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They've been saying that for how long now

Hes not a rookie. Even though he hasn’t always thrown this “soft” I can’t reme,ber him ever being considered a flame thrower. Hes just got that aspect that you can’t put your finger on. You would think ML hitters would have no problem hitting mid 80s fastballs but for some reason they do. Not when gabbard throws them but when Eddie does.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 14, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Agree

that a lot of pitchers mature at different rates. I think that CJ is a little old to think that he will mature for sure. He’s a little past the point that improvement and development is an assumption.
He’s got the stuff, it appears, but it would be interesting if someone could chart yesterday’s 9th to see if his velocity was down, command was spotty, or whatever.
In no circumstance can I feature Mo Rivera jawing with the opposing dugout during a game that had become a 1 run game.

by mcgee48c on Jul 14, 2008 11:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

CJ is to worried about his image.

Seems to me CJ is so worried about the image of a closer that it might be hurting his performance.

Here are my reasons:
1.He seems to be looking to strike every hitter out, with the nibbling that he falls behind and gets put in a bad spot.
2.He is throwing harder than we have seen him…again trying to show he has closer stuff and can strike people out, but its hurting his control.
3.He keeps walking to the back of the mound between pitches, instead of getting into any type of rythm.
4.jawing with Guillen…thats what he wanted. To get CJ off his game.

You do not have to be the tough cool guy to be a closer. Rivera, Wettland. Hoffman. I wish CJ would get that through his head and pitch like he did when he was in the set-up role.

by clinton33 on Jul 14, 2008 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate

the way he takes forever between pitches. I had to take my daughter to the airport yesterday. We left the car with the bases loaded and Thome coming to the plate in the 9th. I waited in line with her at the ticket counter, checked her bags and told her goodbye. On the way back to the car, I thought I would catch the post game show (hopefully) or the bootom of the 9th/extra innings. When I turned on the car, Konerko was up! The posturing, circling the mound, picking up the bag, brushing the rubber bullshit drives me crazy. JUST THROW THE DAMN BALL!!!

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by henryfinkel on Jul 14, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gagne

That’s the Gagne influence. It is annoying. I do think time between pitches favors the pitcher more than the hitter. Any stats to back that up?

by 3Bagger on Jul 14, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's the anti-Matt Harrison

Have you guys been noticing how quickly Harrison gets the ball back to home plate? Maybe just nervousness, but he’s one of the quickest I’ve ever seen.

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by willamos2 on Jul 14, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playoffs

are basically up to Millwood and Padilla.

by SteveP on Jul 14, 2008 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

saves

“I don’t really worry about my ERA too much,” Wilson said. “I just worry if I get my saves, because that’s the only thing I can control.”

I am the only one concerned by this comment. CJ, your job is to get hitters out regardless of the situation.

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by RangerMad on Jul 14, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So, he doesn't worry about my ERA too much because he can't control that?

I think I understand what he’s saying though. If he wants to be aggressive and pound the strike zone because he has a padded lead, go for it.

But, I think he needs to re-evaulate his repertoire when pounding the strike zone results in so many hits.

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 14, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

problem is

he does not pound the strike zone

my personal opinion is he throws way too many pitches to be an elite closer.

whether it be strikeouts or some other type of out – he needs to get it done with less effort.

many times this year we have watched as he struggles to get guys out and throws a lot of pitches in the process. This can only hurt as it gives the batters that follow more opportunity to watch him pitch – not too mention the guy who is at bat and has seen like 8 to 10 pitches.

I think he’s your guy this year – but if the Rangers want to be contenders long-term – he’s probably not the answer.

by simplesimon on Jul 14, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No problem with that comment

while that may come off as a selfish thing it also means all he cares about is winning.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 14, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't come off as selfish

it comes off as stupid. If he only cared about winning, he would’ve said “I just worry about winning the game” or “I just worry about getting outs.”, not making a statement about a worthless statistic, on par with wins and losses.

by jwiscarson on Jul 14, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lebreton's

next column will analyze the wetness of water.

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by henryfinkel on Jul 14, 2008 12:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Closer and Playoff Team

I’m not pushing the panic button on Wilson yet—I’d keep rolling with him as the closer, although part of the reason, I will admit, is that I don’t think there are any better long-term options on the Rangers right now. But I also don’t buy into the “it doesn’t matter as long as he converts saves” argument, either…he’s dodged some bullets this year, but he’s not going to be able to keep pitching like he has in the first half of the season and have long-term success

Benoit is a better option at closer. This Wilson guy is a wild card. He seems more interested in self promotion than playing baseball to help his team.

Gil Lebreton is right about this team when it comes to the playoffs.

Any stupid nerd who follows baseball knows that there are 3 elements involved:

Offense
Defense
Pitching

That same nerd also realizes that Pitching and Defense are more likely to take you to the playoffs and a championship.

This Rangers team has the WORST pitching and the WORST defense in the Major Leagues. Only a fool would keep hope for this team to make the post season.

Josh Hamilton can hit 100 HR’s and have 200 rbi’s, but as long as the pitching and defense STINK, it doesn’t make any difference.

Johns Danks is what….....the number 4 starter for the White Sox? Crap, he’d be our Ace if he were still here.

John Daniels is clueless.

Postions prospects are a dime a dozen.

Good pitchers are 2 for 50 cents.

This team may be fun to wAtch, but they stink.

When your closer has an ERA of 5.01, you know it ain’t good.

Lbrooks

by LBrooks on Jul 14, 2008 2:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You lost me at "Benoit is a better option at closer"

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 14, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

closer

you said John Danks would be our Ace if he were still here…I submit he might still be in AA or AAA or on the DL

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I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Jul 14, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exchange rate

So, position players = 0.8 cents per, pitchers = 25 cents per.

That makes them 31 times more valuable than position players. Not sure that’s quite right.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 14, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I don't know

I think I’m going to take the prestigious dumbass opinion over the humbly intelligent math-teacher one.

by brettgardner on Jul 15, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our pitching...

scares the living shit out of me.

And yes that is why this team can’t compete for a playoff spot this year. Help is on the way though, and it would be nice to make a real solid addition or two in the off season to speed up the process to seriously contend next year.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 15, 2008 12:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Help......

....is on the way?

Help is on the way though, and it would be nice to make a real solid addition or two in the off season to speed up the process to seriously contend next year.

I thought help was on the way when we had DVD.

Lbrooks

by LBrooks on Jul 15, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see you back LBrooks...

and contributing as much as ever.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 15, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well.....

........I figure JohnBoy’s next group will be DUD….lol

Lbrooks

by LBrooks on Jul 16, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

closer you said John Danks would be our Ace if he were still here…I submit he might still be in AA or AAA or on the DL

Now, that is truly funny. Well done!!

Lbrooks

by LBrooks on Jul 16, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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