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Rotation post trade deadline

In an ideal world Padilla and Millwood would be healthy and carrying us to a pennant chase.  I'm willing to put money that just won't happen.  This team has made huge strides as the season has gone on.  Hell on Sunday three rookies hit in the winning runs, helping us take 2 of 3 from the Central leading White Sox.

So as a fan what should we expect post deadline as a realistic Ranger rotation?  Well there are three scenarios.  First, Padilla gets healthy and is dealt.  The second is JD realizes playing the kids in the short term may lead to some lumps but in the long term will push this team forward in the later part of 2009 so he trades both Millwood and Padilla.  The third is status quo.

I'm not a fan of the status quo.  Its led to the worst pitching staff in baseball.  More of the same doesn't build toward anything next year.

It appears Feldman will head to the bullpen or pitch till he hits 130 and then the Rangers plan to shut him down to avoid any possibilities of dead arm next season.  That opens one spot.  I like Matt Harrison, but would rather see him return to AAA to work on mixing his pitches and growing confident in his secondary stuff.  At this point I'd like to see what Dustin Nippert's got.  Yeah he kinda struggled against the Chi Sox but I'm giving everyone a pass for pitching in 99 degree heat in the middle of the afternoon.  Regardless he's out of options and has pitched well as a starter the last month or so in AAA.  He also has the best "stuff."  The Rangers should give him every opportunity to show why he was once one of the best prospects in baseball.  We've had a tendency to give up on pitchers early.  I hope we don't make that mistake with him too.

If I could dump Millwood for anything decent right now I would.  Hell the Rangers should eat like 5 million on that contract just to buy a better prospect.  He's done nothing but decline since he arrived and whatever club house leadership he has is mitigated by the abysmal showings on the mound.  Unfortunately, that's what going to keep him here and in this rotation.  He has negative trade value.  The only silver lining may be that he won't reach his targets to where his option is forced to be picked up by the club.

I'm also in the minority of liking Padilla when he's healthy.  I really hope he gets that way and is packaged with someone for a really nice trade.  It's not that he's bad but because we can't dump Millwood, I'd move Padilla to ensure there's a spot for Hunter and or Harrison next season.

So it should look something like this:

Millwood, Hurley, Mendoza, Nippert, and Harrison until McCarthy is ready to go then send Harrison back down.

Ideally, it'd be Padilla instead of Millwood but I gave up fantasies long ago.  So what does everyone think the Rangers should do and what will they actually do?

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Rotation

Post Trade Deadline:

1. Hurley
2. Mendoza
3. Nippert
4. Harrison
5. McCarthy/ Tommy Hunter

6. Also have Feldman, A. J. Murray possibly, Doug Mathis, and Kason Gabbard

We have to know what these guys will offer…

Plus maybe Millwood and Padilla help stock the lower system AA, A+, A with more prospects (2-3 each pitcher)...

This season has been fun though with the rookies producing

by ACtheStud1980 on Jul 14, 2008 3:23 PM CDT   0 recs

You can't run that rotation

out there and expect not to get lambasted by your fanbase and your players. Knowledgeable fans might think thats best but you have to understand that most fans think we are in a pennant race and the fact we are 4 games over .500 selling Pad and Milly would be throwing in the towel on the best shot we’ve had in years. Remember MY’s quotes after the rebuilding talk started last year? I doubt it will go over well with them as well. I really think the moves we make will be determined by players and how we look the first 10-12 days after the break.

by corbsclinton on Jul 14, 2008 3:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rotation

Millwood, Padilla, Hurley, Nippert, Mendoza

McCarthy will come back and probably Mendoza gets sent down. Such is the life of an up and down young pitcher. Nippert is out of options and the way he has pitched since coming back up has pretty much secured him a spot until either he implodes for a few starts in a row or the end of the season whichever comes first. Hurley and McCarthy have the ceiling card for them. Both of them have much higher ceilings than a Mendoza or Mathis so they will get their spots. Harrison probably needs to keep working on his stuff a little more which is exactly what AAA is for. He can go back knowing he has the stuff to be successful as his first start proved but he needs to work on things. Hunter should stay down all year. No sense rushing him and his and our 40 man conundrum complicates things further.

While a rotation headlining Millwood and padilla will not win any Cy Young awards couple them with a healthy McCarthy and Hurley with a year under his belt and going into next season we should have a pretty stout top 4.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 14, 2008 3:29 PM CDT   0 recs

+1

well said, sir.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jul 14, 2008 4:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i would rather

keep nippert in the same role he currently has and keep mendoza in the rotation, even after mccarthy comes back.

by clark on Jul 14, 2008 4:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Harrisson and Hunter

Hunter is going to hit his innings cap soon and you avoid starting the MLB service clock by keeping him down on the farm.

Harrison needs to keep his inning count down, too. He was injured last year and will need to be shutdown before the end of the year.

Realistically, you are probably looking at Millwood, Padilla, Hurley, McCarthy/Nippert/Mendoza/Harrison for the final two spots

by mattrpav on Jul 14, 2008 3:30 PM CDT   0 recs

Let me just add

Hunter is not on the radar for this season. As mattrpav has stated, he’s going to hit his innings pitched soon and he doesn’t have to be added to the 40 yet. There are going to be a couple of guys who need to be added next year. They won’t rush him anymore than they all ready have.

One of Gabbard, Mathis, or Murry will come back and fit somewhere, even if just the bullpen. Hell we may need two loogys if we run the kids out there for the rest of the season.

by Hull Fan on Jul 14, 2008 3:44 PM CDT   0 recs

Feldman

hitting his innings limit might actually be a good thing since it will allow us to take a look at some other pitchers. For one it will help the bullpen out and save his arm. The problem is what do you do with mathis, murray, gabbard, mandoza, nippert, mccarthy, etc

guys like harrison, hunter (who should in no way be brought up this year for all of the reasons mentioned earlier), hurley, and mccarthy seem to all figure into the future rotation post millwood/padilla and before the next wave of prospects come. The problem now or will be soon is where does everybody fit in? We started to run into this problem in ST which led to gallarga’s release and obviously we need to use the rest of this season to try and form some sort of evaluation and try and not let guys who can pitch get away cause they have not had time to develop in the bigs.

IMO I think the top 5 starting pitchers not including padilla, millwood, or feldman should be hurley, harrison, mendoza, nippert, and mccarthy/gabbard whoever gets healthy first. At least one of millwood/padilla will still most likely be here though and we really need to figure out if gabbard, mendoza, and nippert can cut it as starters. Mccarthy will also all but be guaranteed a spot once healthy and hopefully will pitch well and somewhat quiet the peanut gallery.

I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.

by rchawk12 on Jul 14, 2008 4:11 PM CDT   0 recs

McCarthy

This is really the question that was being asked but since I haven’t heard much on McCarthy’s rehab recently, does anyone know how it’s going? Has he made any rehabs starts yet, is there a target date for his return? Or is he on the Hank Blalock rehab merry-go-round?

by cgolden on Jul 14, 2008 4:17 PM CDT   0 recs

He just pitched a couple of days ago

in the AZL. He was limited to two innings and gave up one run. I believe the plan is to let him pitch one more time down there and have him go three innings and then he starts rehabbing in frisco. Hopefully he will be back up here in about a month.

I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.

by rchawk12 on Jul 14, 2008 4:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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