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LSB Community Prospect Project: Mid-Season #10

On behalf of thedirkatron, who was called out of town unexpectedly and asked for someone to move on, I'm posting the next round.  After another squeaker Taylor Teagarden has won the right to be called the LSB Community #9 prospect!

The list so far:
1. 1b, Chris Davis
2. RHP, Neftali Feliz
3. RHP, Eric Hurley
4. SS, Elvis Andrus
5. C, Maximiliano Ramirez
6. 1b, Justin Smoak
7. RHP, Michael Main
8. RHP, Blake "C-Wun" Beavan

9. C, Taylor Teagarden

 

 

 

Star-divide

Time to move on to the next vote.

The polls are open, so go ahead and vote in the poll at the bottom and feel free to make any suggestions and/or criticisms in the comments below.

And please don't hesitate to tell me you want on the list for next time.

NOTE: There has been some speculation as to what the criteria are for this vote. Should guys who are currently in the bigs be involved in "prospect" discussions? For the sake of this exercise we're taking what the guys have done in the big leagues and using the BA prospect formula of 130 AB's or 50 ip. If a guy is under those limits, he's still a prospect right now, so he goes on the list. It's that simple.

 

 

Poll
Who is currently the #10 prospect in the Rangers' system?
  • OF Engel Beltre
  • OF Julio Borbon
  • OF John Mayberry, Jr.
  • OF/C Cristian Santana
  • SS Marcus Lemon
  • SS Joaquin Arias
  • 2B Jose Vallejo
  • 2B German Duran
  • LHP Martin Perez
  • LHP Derek Holland
  • LHP Robbie Ross
  • LHP Matt Harrison
  • LHP Kasey Kiker
  • RHP Omar Poveda
  • RHP Thomas Diamond
  • RHP Warner Madrigal
  • RHP Tommy Hunter
  • RHP Neil Ramirez
  • RHP Kennil Gomez
  • RHP Wilfredo Boscan
  • RHP Wilmer Font

  212 votes | Results

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Tough choice

but I went with Beltre here by a nose over Kiker. He’s picked up lately and he’s going to start justifying the hype.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 14, 2008 10:18 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm going that route too.

Hard to go against Kiker and I didn’t wanna knee jerk and go Hunter…..It’s just, Beltre’s potential is way to great to overlook and oh yeah, he’s eighteen. What a list though…. Beltre/Kiker/Harrison/Hunter/Borbon, four of them won’t make the top ten!

"Mr. Hicks, you watch, I'm going to be a leader on this team." Kinsler

by sprite on Jul 14, 2008 11:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You should add Holland to that list

A lefty with a mid-90’s fastball, above average change-up, developing breaking ball, and 1+ year of performance (>9K/9IP, 3 walks/9IP, WHIP~1.1, and ERA

by spurdynasty on Jul 14, 2008 11:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Continued thought on Holland

ERA less than 3.00)! The fact that he’s not in the conversation of top-ten prospects speaks to the outstanding depth of the Ranger’s farm system. Holland’s probably the Ranger minor-leaguer with the greatest chance of going the way of Neftali/CD/MaxRam and enjoying a meteoric rise up the national prospect lists.

by spurdynasty on Jul 14, 2008 11:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Matt Harrison

for the 4th straight time.

Warner Madrigal is the Rangers most underrated prospect by a longshot; he SHOULD be be closing games within 3 years IMO. Matt Harrison is underrated too.

by dstar442005 on Jul 14, 2008 10:18 PM CDT   0 recs

ahh shit.

I was tying all this crap. btw, thanks dirk for all the hard work. The polls are a bitch to create.

by coolaid on Jul 14, 2008 10:19 PM CDT   0 recs

sorry,

didn’t think anyone else was going for it. The poll is a pain.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 14, 2008 10:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Kiker

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 14, 2008 10:23 PM CDT   0 recs

Borbon, Beltre, Kiker or Harrison

can’t decide

Gerald Laird, the Man, the Father, the Son, the Beast, the One, the Savior, the Immaculate.

by JukeboxJoe on Jul 14, 2008 10:27 PM CDT   0 recs

Hint: It ain't Borbon

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 15, 2008 7:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hint: it aint harrison either.

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 16, 2008 12:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

what is the c-wun in beavan's name mean?

chosen one? haha

baseBALLIN!

by kevzta on Jul 14, 2008 10:29 PM CDT   0 recs

captain wonderful

i believe… i maybe wrong about that though

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 14, 2008 10:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nope...

That’s it.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 14, 2008 11:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Awesome

North by Northwest is on TCM.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 14, 2008 10:31 PM CDT   0 recs

Cary Grant + Hitch. Does it get any better?

Yes. But not much.

Most underrated Hitchcock film: Shadow of a Doubt.

Second most: Rope.

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 15, 2008 7:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rope

a fave of mine, too, along with Lifeboat, which features my favorite Hitch cameo.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 15, 2008 8:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hunter

He doesn’t have Kiker’s FB, but the performance is great—with enough ambiguity to conceive that the best is yet to come.

Had to vote for Judo boy.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 14, 2008 10:36 PM CDT   0 recs

Harrison

After Harrison’s start on Sunday, there sure is alot of room on his bandwagon. Also, why is Arias still considered a prospect? He is going to miss the AAA all-star game due to his shoulder bothering him. Again!

"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch

by RangerMad on Jul 14, 2008 10:52 PM CDT   0 recs

HARRISON!!!!!!!!

He’s my #4

Warner Madrigal is the Rangers most underrated prospect by a longshot; he SHOULD be be closing games within 3 years IMO. Matt Harrison is underrated too.

by dstar442005 on Jul 14, 2008 11:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

wow

Kiker at 10? This system is loaded, LOADED. And, Robbie Ross should probably be in the top 10 as well…

"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007

by Longhorn on Jul 14, 2008 11:22 PM CDT   0 recs

anyword on

robbie ross?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXWLfIgc0nA

by mchang4 on Jul 15, 2008 12:08 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Went with Harrison....

Real tough choices now though.

Could see it being either Kiker, Borbon, or Beltre in this spot as well.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 14, 2008 11:34 PM CDT   0 recs

Horrible news

It looks like Neftali Feliz’ next start is getting bumped back to Friday in Corpus instead of Thursday in Frisco like we all wanted. Man, I was so there. grrrrrr

by shroomer on Jul 15, 2008 12:11 AM CDT   0 recs

road trip!!!

i gotta free place to crash if you got the gas.

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 15, 2008 12:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

UGH

i was going to buy tickets to thursdays game, glad i held off a few days

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 15, 2008 5:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Woa

I thought it was injury-related.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 15, 2008 8:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

woW thanks for the almost heart attack shroom

when I saw horrible news I was thinking rotator cuff!

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 15, 2008 11:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm going with Kiker again

This time he’s gonna win it.

A Lonestar in California

"My keyboard is a Yankees fan" - Whipsmart

by lonestarJon on Jul 15, 2008 12:26 AM CDT   0 recs

Kiker

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Jul 15, 2008 8:35 AM CDT   0 recs

Everyone is Overlooking

German Duran. The guy can play and is getting terrific experience at the major league level. I would prefer if he had spent the first half of this year at AAA, where I think he would have continued to post terrific minor league numbers. He is going to force the Rangers to find him at bats next year and i could see him forcing Kinsler to the outfield before anyone else.

by capcity ranger on Jul 15, 2008 10:14 AM CDT   0 recs

"terrific experience at the major league level"

I disagree. I think he should be in AAA playing everyday, because he spends at least 70% of his time on the bench these days. I attribute that to his offense being so weak so far.

A Lonestar in California

"My keyboard is a Yankees fan" - Whipsmart

by lonestarJon on Jul 15, 2008 10:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

His continued presence in Arlington when he should be facing live pitching everyday in OKC is one of my few disappointments this year.

Physician: Primum non nocere

Batter: First, make no out

by Chad Crudup on Jul 15, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks for filling in, tball

I’ll be back tomorrow afternoon, but I didn’t want to wait that long to get another one up and there’s zero chance I was gonna do one of these by freaking iPhone.
Good job, and thanks.

Oh, and i went with kiker again.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 15, 2008 11:29 AM CDT   0 recs

We gotta wait till tommorrow?

Dude, really. Kiker’s walking away with this one. Can t-ball do another this afternoon?

Hell, I’ll do it if it’s ok with you.

A Lonestar in California

"My keyboard is a Yankees fan" - Whipsmart

by lonestarJon on Jul 15, 2008 11:38 AM CDT to parent up   1 recs

oh, no, that's fine by me

I just meant I’d be back by tomorrow. If you or tball or whoever wants to do another one in the interim that’s abosolutelyy okay… Abosolutelyy? Damn u iPhone keyboard!!!

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 15, 2008 2:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The last poll

received over 300 votes and we’re only at 187 as I type, I think we can wait.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 15, 2008 2:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Kiker has a 60+ vote lead though

The last few polls there have been a couple guys neck and neck all the way. This one seems like a blowout and since its already taken us what 2 weeks to get 10 done I think we should call it and move on.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 15, 2008 2:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll put one up tonight.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 15, 2008 3:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Did an emergency MDB Hate Summit get called?

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 15, 2008 7:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

Its hard enough typing out posts of any length on an iPhone.

It’s great for reading stuff though. Even gamethreads are fine before 350 posts.

by LiamP on Jul 15, 2008 12:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

exactly

its a great browser, and the keyboard is awesome for texting… But an entire post would drive me nuts!

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 15, 2008 2:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Especially since

you can’t copy/paste yet

by zywica on Jul 15, 2008 2:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

at least youve got an iphone

i’m waiting for stores to start getting them in stock again

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 15, 2008 7:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

#11

Looks like a runaway to me. How about moving on to #11

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 15, 2008 11:32 AM CDT   0 recs

How about revising your comments, noob?
You don’t have to be a dick when plenty of others disagree with you either.
I just can’t see how he gets mentioned in the top 10 with the way alot of our prospects are performing.
If Teagarden was so highly thought of I think he would have more than 3 votes right here
Do ... you ... feel ... like ... a dumbass?

"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants

by Chase Irwin on Jul 15, 2008 9:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He had a good futures game.

Your point being? I still don’t think he is one of our top ten prospects. Again its really not anything against him I just feel we have at least ten other prospects better than him. Im glad you feel so highly about the guy you have to come back and post all this. I guess I will wait until he has one bad game and ask how you feel about him then.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 16, 2008 10:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

I agree with that. Our farm system is really loaded right now, and myself, I consider it a positive, not a negative that Teagarden is no longer really one of our top-10 prospects, nor our top catching prospect.

People around here though seem to have a real affinity for Tea though, probably because they’ve watched him since he was drafted and he’s the one they want to see succeed.

A Lonestar in California

Classic iorange555: "lmao too bad i watched [the all-star game] at a friends house ;[ much funer on here"

by lonestarJon on Jul 16, 2008 10:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The taste for Tea

It also has to do with the fact that he is a very, very good defensive player at a very important defensive position.

Defensive value at a premium defensive position is becoming anachronistic in this offensive-minded age.

by jparks77 on Jul 16, 2008 11:01 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"the one they want to succeed"

That sounds familiar…

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 16, 2008 11:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Your point?

We all have certain players we want to see suceed. I’m merely pointing out that the Teagarden love comes from the fact that LSB likes him.

A Lonestar in California

Classic iorange555: "lmao too bad i watched [the all-star game] at a friends house ;[ much funer on here"

by lonestarJon on Jul 16, 2008 11:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and they are always ignoring his major health risk

i still cant understand that part.

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 16, 2008 12:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Who is ignoring

it? It gets mentioned in every other post.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 16, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok, but we like him

for good reasons. I don’t give a shit about him except that I think he’ll be a very good catcher for many years.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 16, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll admit I have a small bias b/c of the fact that he is a local kid

But I do think he has a real chance to be the next Jim Sundberg. And I’d think that regardless of where he is from.

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 16, 2008 3:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The point is obvious

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 16, 2008 3:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Kiker

I really like Harrison and Hunter is making me change my mind about him but I still say Kiker here.

Physician: Primum non nocere

Batter: First, make no out

by Chad Crudup on Jul 15, 2008 11:53 AM CDT   0 recs

I like Kiker

but I’d trade him for Engel Beltre in a heartbeat, so I voted Beltre.

Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.

by tricer on Jul 15, 2008 2:36 PM CDT   0 recs

FWIW - Jared Hyatt impressions

I went thru and watched Jared Hyatt pitch on the free video at MiLB.com – link at the magic calendar. He’s built a lot like BMac. He’s a little shorter and appears to have a little better wiry strength and coordination. He has no hips so he’s constantly tugging at his belt buckle to secure his pants.

He has a pretty simple delivery – stand tall and straight and throw over the top – tries to get a downhill effect to his pitches. His FB isn’t blazing fast – never heard a gun reading – guessing around 90 mph. He tries to keep it down but didn’t seem to get punished that badly when it got up.

His change-up is a lot like BMac’s – starts out looking like a low FB then dies down onto the plate. The low FB/CU combo works well together. I don’t remember ever seeing his CU drift up or get hit hard. He repeated it well.

His CB is more like Tommy Hunter’s – not a big loopy slow curve but a tight hard biting one that is always around the plate. His height and delivery seemed to add to the downhill movement when it reached the plate – it was a pop-up getter. He didn’t really get wild with the CB until he tired in the 7th before getting yanked. Not many CB’s in the dirt, if any.

For a thin guy he hides the ball well – seemed like uses his glove to hide the ball. He’s got some deception in there. His mound presence was calm and purposeful, not showy or macho but business-like. Better than BMac’s IMO. He didn’t seem intimidated at all. He got tons of pop-ups and weak fly-balls. Mayberry made a fine running catch in the RF corner to save a double once. Good wheels and moxie running toward the wall by JMJ there. Looking back at his 2008 stats I’m surprised by his decent K-rate because his arsenal appears to me to be built for contact.

He’s not junk – sound head, simple repeatable game plan and a decent athlete. Yay us.

The Redhawks’ announcer said Teagarden’s throw-out rate was 35% not 40% like I’d heard the week before. 35, 40, still good.

The did a quick feature during the game of all the former OK Redhawks who are playing in tonight’s All Star Game. Plenty of names. Mostly on other teams. gak

by shroomer on Jul 15, 2008 4:32 PM CDT   0 recs

Do catchers

throwout rates go up as they move up through systems? I imagine that the minors have as many 1 tool fast guys as the bigs (i.e., Fast Freddy Guzman), so the quality of opponents won’t get higher as you go up, but I’d guess that the pitchers are not as good at holding them on.

Thoughts?

by JBImaknee on Jul 15, 2008 5:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ditto

Basically, I was pondering the same thing while hearing about Tea’s CS rate – every level has fast guys – but hopefully pitchers in the bigs are more help – of course, thieves are more savvy, too.

by shroomer on Jul 15, 2008 6:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Prospect?

or the next sam narron?

Im guessing somewhere in between, pen guy.

I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.

by rchawk12 on Jul 15, 2008 6:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

Maybe somewhere between Steve Rowe and Doug Mathis.

by shroomer on Jul 15, 2008 7:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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