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LSB Community Prospect Project: Mid-Season #12

Thedirkatron is back, and our long national nightmare is over.

Thanks to TBall for doing such a kickass job while I was unavailable.

After whipping some serious ass in the last round, Engel Beltre has won the right to be called the LSB Community #11 prospect!

The list so far:
1. 1b, Chris Davis
2. RHP, Neftali Feliz
3. RHP, Eric Hurley
4. SS, Elvis Andrus
5. C, Maximiliano Ramirez
6. 1b, Justin Smoak
7. RHP, Michael Main
8. RHP, Blake "C-Wun" Beavan
9. C, Taylor Teagarden
10. LHP Kasey Kiker
11. OF, Engel Beltre

Time to move on to the next vote.

The polls are open, so go ahead and vote in the poll at the bottom and feel free to make any suggestions and/or criticisms in the comments below.

And please don't hesitate to tell me you want on the list for next time.

NOTE: There has been some speculation as to what the criteria are for this vote. Should guys who are currently in the bigs be involved in "prospect" discussions? For the sake of this exercise we're taking what the guys have done in the big leagues and using the BA prospect formula of 130 AB's or 50 ip. If a guy is under those limits, he's still a prospect right now, so he goes on the list. It's that simple.

 

Poll
Who is currently the #12 prospect in the Rangers' system?
  • OF, Julio Borbon
  • OF, John Mayberry, Jr.
  • OF/C, Cristian Santana
  • SS, Marcus Lemon
  • SS, Joaquin Arias
  • 2b, Jose Vallejo
  • 2b, German Duran
  • 3b, Matt West
  • LHP, Matt Harrison
  • LHP, Robbie Ross
  • LHP, Derek Holland
  • LHP, Martin Perez
  • LHP, Beau Jones
  • RHP, Tommy Hunter
  • RHP, Neil Ramirez
  • RHP, Omar Poveda
  • RHP, Thomas Diamond
  • RHP, Kennil Gomez
  • RHP, WIlmer Font
  • RHP, Warner Madrigal
  • RHP, Wilfredo Boscan

  256 votes | Results

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Still going with Borbon

I stil like his potential, even though he’s not setting Frisco on fire these days.

A Lonestar in California

Classic iorange555: "lmao too bad i watched [the all-star game] at a friends house ;[ much funer on here"

by lonestarJon on Jul 17, 2008 7:48 AM CDT   0 recs

+1

He’s got great defensive skills at a premium defensive position, and making it to AA in your first season is nothing to sneeze at, even if you’re coming out of a top college baseball conference.

The dearth of OBP skills still worry me, but with his high contact rate paired with his speed he should be okay in the end.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 17, 2008 8:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

WB Dirk

Mayberry for me.
I don’t know if he fits within this org anymore, but he’s doing very well at AA and should be able to slide in fairly easily.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739

by BudLight on Jul 17, 2008 7:58 AM CDT   0 recs

AAA*

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739

by BudLight on Jul 17, 2008 7:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hunter

Great athlete, might not have revealed his peak performance yet…

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 17, 2008 8:10 AM CDT   0 recs

Holland

Great numbers at Low-A, great location with his pitches and velocity is increasing. I’m ready to see what he does at Bakersfield.

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Jul 17, 2008 8:15 AM CDT   0 recs

Harrison

He will be in the rotation next year if not now.

"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch

by RangerMad on Jul 17, 2008 8:22 AM CDT   0 recs

Matt Harrison

for the 6th straight turn.

Warner Madrigal is the Rangers most underrated prospect by a longshot; he SHOULD be be closing games within 3 years IMO. Matt Harrison is underrated too.

by dstar442005 on Jul 17, 2008 8:41 AM CDT   0 recs

Seriously. Been voting for him for too long now.

+1

Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.

by utlonghorn24 on Jul 17, 2008 12:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

But the start before that

had a knee-jerk reaction too, people voting him much higher than he probably deserves.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 17, 2008 1:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

agreed

i’m high on harrison but just not high enough to have him top 12
there is no way his ceiling is as high as guys like beltre, etc.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 17, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Since the fifth pick for me

I think he is a lock top 10, but I’m one man.

by Parman on Jul 17, 2008 1:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

OMNT?

"The rich think they are privileged so rules don't apply to them, and the poor think they're entitled and so rules don't apply to them." The rest of us are screwed.

by A.Medina on Jul 18, 2008 7:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Borbon

again… Think this is the 3rd time. Hopefully its the charm

by bushe on Jul 17, 2008 8:43 AM CDT   0 recs

Harrison by a nose...

...over Borbon and Hunter.

Physician: Primum non nocere

Batter: First, make no out

by Chad Crudup on Jul 17, 2008 9:02 AM CDT   0 recs

Just out of curiosity

what # do you think we will get to (or already got to) when that player would NOT be the #1 prospect in the Astros system?

I’m thinking #11 perhaps?

Is there an Astros prospect that you would trade Engel Beltre for straight-up?

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jul 17, 2008 9:06 AM CDT   0 recs

No

but there are also going to be guys further down this list that I wouldnt either based solely on potential. We are going to have a ton of guys lower on this list than in past years that are getting pushed down by talent further up the food chain, guys like perez, holland, font, gomez, santana, boscan, etc.

I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.

by rchawk12 on Jul 17, 2008 9:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Font was evidently abducted by aliens

Until someone comes out with something concrete regarding his health, I have no idea where he fits
in.

I voted Harrison.

by LiamP on Jul 17, 2008 9:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Evan Grant's newsletter today:

Q: Wilmer Font still hasn’t pitched and seems like he has been out longer than anticipated. Something serious going on with that shoulder?

Ryan, N.Y.

GRANT: I am told Font is throwing off a mound in Arizona and there is nothing more serious than shoulder fatigue combined with the Rangers’ extremely cautious approach to the giant (6-4, 237-pound) 18-year-old. I’ve not been given any kind of timetable as to when he might actually appear in games there. That doesn’t necessarily mean, however, he’s hurt more seriously than the Rangers are acknowledging. The club doesn’t like to give out timetables to insure the player doesn’t rush to meet a deadline and to keep concerns about the significance of the injury from mounting if the player doesn’t meet some artificial deadline.

by shroomer on Jul 17, 2008 10:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

went with font

font this time, Jose Vallejo, Neil Ramirez, Julio Borbon and harrison later.

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 17, 2008 11:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LiamP

Aren’t you Hot Carl Crawfords?

Why’d you stop keeping up with your team?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 17, 2008 10:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Pay leagues taking up time

Plus, I have no other ESPN leagues so I forgot about the league for a while. I’ll make a concerted effort next season, honest injun.

by LiamP on Jul 17, 2008 12:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I know how it is

Not trying to hate. It’s hard keeping tabs on teams, especially when injuries screw you and you fall out of it.

Just please try to check in every once in a while even if just to rotate the injured guys out of your lineup. It’s depressing looking at the league rosters and seeing you are starting 4 guys who are on the 15 day DL.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 17, 2008 12:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

DL

man i don’t even want to get started on how many guys on my team are on the dl

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 17, 2008 1:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

dirk

are you in that yahoo league? if so which team?

I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.

by rchawk12 on Jul 17, 2008 7:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Million Dollar Babies

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 17, 2008 8:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No

we did an ESPN AL-only keeper league that’s pretty competitive.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 18, 2008 12:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

gotcha

I joined a league through lsb that had a team named hot carl crawfords, must be same guy multiple leagues.

I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.

by rchawk12 on Jul 18, 2008 11:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

still, that says a LOT

about the state of the Rangers (#2 behind TB?) farm system and the Astros farm system (the worst in baseball).

That is pretty disparate.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jul 17, 2008 9:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess it depends on how much you like Jason Castro

or whoever the hell that catcher is they snagged at #11.

He was supposedly a mid to late first round talent, so… I dunno.

I’d prolly take him over Harrison and guys after him.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 17, 2008 10:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think I agree

I wouldn’t trade anyone already on that list up there for Jason Castro. Considering that the Astros are crossing their fingers that Castro is Teagarden in 2-3 years, and Tea is #9 on that list, I think its pretty safe to say that Castro would be 11 or 12 in our system.

That’s probably an interesting way to rank our players. If our system didn’t have as many catchers, I may consider a Kiker for Castro deal or a Beltre for Castro deal, but probably pass on each. I’d probably do a Harrison or Borbon for Castro deal though

by JBImaknee on Jul 17, 2008 11:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

One Borbon

One scotch, One beer

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 17, 2008 9:08 AM CDT   0 recs

Harrison

Beavan, Beltre, and Harrison are kind of lumped together at #10 for me.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jul 17, 2008 9:49 AM CDT   0 recs

Went with Holland

though I had to think about it for a while, could have gone Harrison or Borbon or Hunter.

I’d like to see Mitch Moreland added soon. I probably like him more than most, but I like the progress he’s made. 35 BBs vs. 38 Ks and nice power.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 17, 2008 10:44 AM CDT   0 recs

I was just thinking that Holland may be turning into the next Matt Harrison, having

a low-mid 90s FB and control of quality secondary pitches. What is encouraging about Holland is that his K/9 is better than Harrison’s at this stage of development. I still have Holland below Harrison, since Harrison is pushing into the majors and more refined, but not much below. In the long run, I could see Holland having a better chance at producing an impact season, given he has shown an ability to strikeout folks that Harrison has yet to demonstrate.

Moreland has had a very encouraging season. His scouting report before the draft noted that his best asset was his plus power but that he had an uppercut swing with lots of holes. He has cut his K-rate in half while still ranking 3rd in slugging. That seems like a really fast adjustment, which bodes well for his development. I think a case could be made for him almost anywhere in the 15-30 range, which is a scrum of talent on the Rangers farm.

Does anyone know if Moreland has switched back from RF to 1B since Gac was promoted?

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jul 17, 2008 11:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Holland/Harrison Comparison

In his first start in High A, Holland’s fastball was 94-96 MPH. If Harrison had that type of pace on his fastball (and the K-rate that Holland has exhibited in his first 1+ years of pro ball), then Harrison would rank alongside Feliz as the Rangers’ top pitching prospect. If Holland produces at AA next year like his track record suggests he will, then he will be among the hottest prospects in the Rangers system.

Moreland has been Clinton’s starting 1st baseman since Gac was promoted.

by spurdynasty on Jul 17, 2008 11:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep

Holland will be higher than this on the winter rankings if he keeps going. I’m biased kind of, though, I’ve been rooting for him since he signed as the last draft and follow.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 17, 2008 11:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Harrison is being too highly thought of IMHO

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 17, 2008 11:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Borbon

not.

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 17, 2008 11:04 AM CDT   0 recs

Such a hater, Sauce

Coco Crisp part two has plenty of value.

Just finished Mad Men Season One. Greatness. Thanks for that. New season is soon, right?

Have the first episode of Generation Kill waiting for me on my Tivo for tonight. You see it yet? Any good?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 17, 2008 11:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

mad men

i keep hearing about this show, i’m going to have to watch it.

generation kill = pure awesomeness x10

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 17, 2008 11:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

mad men

is pretty good, it got a little over the top at the end of the season but was still good. i think i heard somewhere that this winter another season will come out.

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 17, 2008 11:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

mad men

what’s it even about? the pictures i’ve seen all look like dudes dressed in 50s / 60s era suits

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 17, 2008 12:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

its an early 60's era

right as the sexual revolution (birth control), bob dylan, etc coming out and these WW2 vets and older fellas (30+) working at an Ad Agency.

lots of smoking, lots of scotch at 3pm in the office, lots of screwing secretaries and treating women like they 2nd class in the work place, making ads for cig companies etc.

its on AMC i think.

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 17, 2008 12:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey, you go to Frisco alot, right?

I will be in town next weekend, and if Feliz pitches that Monday as scheduled, I’m there (if it isn’t him I’ll probably see the big boys-my bro-in-law always hooks up seat sweetness).

Any tips on where to sit, etc.?

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 17, 2008 11:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

t ball & Z

attend frequently too, IIRC.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jul 17, 2008 11:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sit right behind home plate

if you can. If indeed he pitches on a Monday there should be seats left and they’re only $19 I think. Well worth it. I like right behind the Frisco dugout, too, on the 3B side.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 17, 2008 12:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You still going out of town that week?

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 17, 2008 12:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep, leaving Monday.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 17, 2008 1:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

frisco

there isn’t a bad seat really.
we sit behind home plate a lot where the scouts are, which can be cool but really isn’t the best view to see the pitcher and where pitches end up.

if you really want to see feliz from the best angle, i’d go first base side. but bring sunscreen and sunglasses the sun shines right on that side in the evenings

and get some bavarian nuts, those things are like crack.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 17, 2008 12:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How is the sun behind home plate?

I’ll have my 2 year old nephew with me (Uncle Brian called 1st ranger game for the little man!).

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 17, 2008 2:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sun

not bad at all, you’re pretty much completely in the shade behind home plate and theres usually a decent breeze too.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 17, 2008 2:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

New season starts July 27

Kill is in my tivo, too. Haven’t seen it yet.

Watch some old episodes of Swing Town on the series of tubes. You’ll want to see it from the beginning.

Borbon is ok, just a bit of an overhyped pipe dream. I’d put him in around 15-18.

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 17, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Generation Kill is

greatness. Although, you may not think as highly if you’ve never been or don’t know anyone who was in the military. The storyline seems to have a strong tilt to the interpersonal relationships of a crudely assembled bunch of characters, with the invasion as an anchor.

JMO->YMMV

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jul 17, 2008 11:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's what I miss most

The camraderie. The brotherhood.

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 17, 2008 11:55 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

For true.

For a white skinny kid from a tiny town in the midwest, I had the most amazingly diverse group of friends ever assembled…and I loved it, and them.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jul 17, 2008 11:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What branch?

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 17, 2008 11:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Air Force 6 years

You?

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jul 17, 2008 12:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Navy. 9.

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 17, 2008 12:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You mean there's not a lot of camaraderie amongst rocket scinetists?

I figured y’all would constantly be bonding over things like the newest and most stylish pocket protectors (“ZOMG, you guys! I found a purple one at the mall that has sparkles and a picture of a pony!”) and commiserating over things like the fact that your level 23 spellcaster was slain by a dark elf while trying to navigate the enchanted swamp of wonder.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 17, 2008 12:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

wow

You just described me so perfectly I’m wondering where the camera is

by bushe on Jul 17, 2008 3:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

holy crap

really? i mean… ... really?

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 17, 2008 4:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

generation kill

from the reviews i read, the book is even better than the tv show.

i was blown away by the sense of realism the show had, and the groundwork for character development. If you havent seen it make sure to catch the making of generation kill. the dude rudy is the actual guy not an actor. he ran their boot camp to get ready, etc

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 17, 2008 12:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

just dont eat the charms.

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 17, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hehe

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jul 17, 2008 12:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

never bring charms in the humvee!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 17, 2008 1:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mad Men

Starts back up on July 27th.

by GregoryM on Jul 17, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Another good one: Breakin Bad

AMC also:

http://www.amctv.com/originals/breakingbad/

http://www.tvsquad.com/category/breaking-bad/

Bryan Cranston has chops, baby.

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 17, 2008 2:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, he’s almost unrecognizable in that role.

by GregoryM on Jul 17, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs