Thursday morning things
All right! First day after the All Star Break!
Of course, due to the genius of the MLB scheduling folks -- the same folks who think that it is a good idea to have less than a full slate of games on Memorial Day -- a bunch of teams, including the Rangers, are off today. So no game tonight.
Hank Blalock is expected to be activated -- finally -- on Friday. No word on who will be sent down to make room for him, but the speculation has been that it will be Chris Davis.
Richard Durrett has a piece up about the chemistry of the team, that includes some of the rituals and themes from this season...this piece includes an awesome quote from Tom Hicks:
While Brandon Boggs was keeping tabs on the finger about a month ago, it was stolen from the dugout. A replacement was found immediately.
Several players speculated that someone from the owner's suite near the dugout took the finger, possibly one of owner Tom Hicks' sons.
Hicks denied those claims.
"I have heard from all my sons, and we were not the red finger stealers," Hicks said.
Evan Grant talks about the importance of this particular game, taking place at Yankee Stadium in its final year, to some Rangers...
Anthony Andro says the Rangers won't likely deal veterans at the trade deadline. Andro has the odds of Hank Blalock being moved at 10-1, Frank Catalanotto at 25-1, and Milton Bradley at 40-1. I think this is way off...there's a greater than 10% chance, I think, that Blalock gets moved, and better than a 4% chance Cat gets moved.
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a lot of similarities in the Brett Favre / Hank Blalock situations
okay, not so many I guess.
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by willamos2 on Jul 17, 2008 9:58 AM CDT 0 recs
hank blalock for chris davis
now that it is actually happening, I find myself being very upset by it. Davis better be up in a month. Davis’s numbers prove that he needs some development time in the majors.
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by ab03 on Jul 17, 2008 9:59 AM CDT 0 recs
I'm not happy with it either
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. So… Blalock’s the vet. The team needs to up the trade value. Blah. Whatever. I say stick with Beasticon, Jr.
Good to see the guys are having fun this year. 13 games over .500 since that dubious 9-18 start. That’s pretty freaking sweet and incredible to consider since they have the worst ERA in the AL.
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by SarasotaRanger on
Jul 17, 2008 10:09 AM CDT
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it really is telling how nobody is really even
bringing up Blalock going back to 3B in the media. I think whoever said it the other day (Adam?) that the team was afraid of putting Blalock back at 3B because they know his arm is crap now was right on point. Blalock’s trade value is low right now, but it may be even worse at 3B.
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by willamos2 on
Jul 17, 2008 10:14 AM CDT
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I think it's pretty much a given
that the guy can’t make the throws anymore. Imagine him trying to dive, push himself up, and throw a dart to nail a runner. I just can’t see that out of him.
You are correct… putting him at third could be very counterproductive. 1B/DH scenario is the best option and they’d better hope he can get hot and start raking.
There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.
by SarasotaRanger on
Jul 17, 2008 10:38 AM CDT
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hes a thridbaseman
if he cant play thried he should go on the DL the rest of the season.
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-Miles 6/21/08
.501 or bust!
by Jayslick on
Jul 17, 2008 11:32 AM CDT
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holy crap
thats some misspelled-ness
"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08
.501 or bust!
by Jayslick on
Jul 17, 2008 11:32 AM CDT
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The only possible reason to do this
Is to make Blalock a tradeable commodity. And even if he has a hot 10 days or so, is anyone really going to give up that much for a guy that will probably hit .270/.340/.460 or so while learning to play first base?
by mikedallas45 on
Jul 17, 2008 10:14 AM CDT
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Waivers
You can still trade Blalock after July 31st as long as he clears waivers. You could also work out a trade with the team that claims him.
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by DerekSTheRed on
Jul 17, 2008 12:52 PM CDT
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i'm beginning to think that moving Cat is a long-shot
his salary isn’t cheap for a pinch hitter or fill-in type.
I think there are other options available to teams looking for someone like Cat that will be easier to acquire.
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by willamos2 on Jul 17, 2008 10:00 AM CDT 0 recs
I've thought for awhile
that moving Cat was unlikely. Platoon DHs just don’t have that much value, especially ones that hit .280/.356/.396. I think he will remain a bench guy.
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by DJCahill on
Jul 17, 2008 10:10 AM CDT
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mlbtraderumors has the DBacks close to acquiring Tony Clark
for a AA pitching prospect. Tony Clark seems pretty comparable to Cat.
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by DerekSTheRed on
Jul 17, 2008 12:54 PM CDT
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I assume
that’s a middle relief type prospect? Not a front line starter prospect I wouldn’t assume.
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by DJCahill on
Jul 17, 2008 1:08 PM CDT
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Durrett article
Did anyone else find this part odd?
“Catcher Gerald Laird said such chemistry is one reason a team that fell 7 ½ games out of first place a month into the season finds itself within 7 ½ of first at the All-Star break.”
So thanks to positive chemistry, they’re exactly the same number of games out of first now as at they were on May 1?
I know that’s probably supposed to be a good thing considering how poorly they played the first month, but it struck me as an odd quote…
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by RCCook on Jul 17, 2008 10:03 AM CDT 0 recs
it does sound a bit odd...
i think he’s just saying that it’s remarkable that the team didn’t just throw in the towel being 7 1/2 out so early. They’ve scratched and clawed (and relied on the chemistry) to keep pace with the best teams in baseball since then.
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by willamos2 on
Jul 17, 2008 10:13 AM CDT
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rofl
ive been thinking the same thing…
"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08
.501 or bust!
by Jayslick on
Jul 17, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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proofread
Does Durrett proofread his work. I am sure it made sense in his head.
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by RangerMad on
Jul 17, 2008 11:55 AM CDT
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Dealing Blalock now = Retarded
Unless he comes back and just mashes the crap out of the ball while bounding around the infield like a gazeelse screaming at the top of his lungs, “I’m healthy! I’m healthy!”
Seriously, what team would be interested in him right now, and what could we possibly get?
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by thedirkatron on Jul 17, 2008 10:16 AM CDT 0 recs
Are we going to want to exercise
his option next year though? If we don’t exercise, we get rid of him for nothing though.
If all he can do is play 1B, due to his arm, I can’t imagine we’d want to pay $6.5 million to block Chris Davis. That would be even more retarded.
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by DJCahill on
Jul 17, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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It's a conundrum, I know
If he can’t play 3b anymore then personally I’d just run him out there at DH.
Hopefully by next year (if we still even have him) Milt will be ready to play COF most every day and Hank can take over DH.
I just hate to deal a guy as talented as Hank right now at his absolute lowest point. Bring him back next year to DH and pray he gets his act together in a walk-year miracle.
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by thedirkatron on
Jul 17, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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I agree with you
Bring Blalock back, and if he hits well for the next three months, then you have a better trade chip on your hands (you can exercise the option and then trade him). If he hits really poorly, you just let him go, but I doubt that will be necessary. Blalock’s intrinsic value is such that someone will want him in a deal. Maybe not for Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell anymore, but for something…
by JBImaknee on
Jul 17, 2008 10:46 AM CDT
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Hank and
Danks for Beckett and Lowell. Just playing the MJH role.
by mcgee48c on
Jul 17, 2008 11:07 AM CDT
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They wanted Hanley all along and never would've done that deal so longas they felt there was a shot at getting Hanley
Just playing the realist role.
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by thedirkatron on
Jul 17, 2008 11:08 AM CDT
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You don't really know that
What if the Rangers had countered with Blalock, Danks, Diamond and Arias? If that happens, Beckett and Lowell are Rangers now.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Jul 17, 2008 11:38 AM CDT
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Of course...
...Beckett would have also had his crappy 2006 season here instead of in Boston, and then likely would have walked as a free agent after 2007…
by Adam J. Morris on
Jul 17, 2008 11:51 AM CDT
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well
i don’t think he’s arguing that point.
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by Longhorn on
Jul 17, 2008 12:31 PM CDT
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nevermind
didn’t read ‘now’ the first time.
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by Longhorn on
Jul 17, 2008 12:32 PM CDT
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You don't know that
the Rangers could have made the trade then immediately locked up Beckett long-term.
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by Agreen07 on
Jul 17, 2008 1:02 PM CDT
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if that did happen
we’d get 2 1sts. Nothing wrong with that.
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by Longhorn on
Jul 17, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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for blalock and danks at that point
there was nothing wrong with 2 1sts?
i dont agree.
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by Jayslick on
Jul 17, 2008 1:09 PM CDT
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well
we kinda would have got beckett and lowell in the trade. atleast 2 years for their services is nothing?
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by Longhorn on
Jul 17, 2008 1:11 PM CDT
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Lowell
People tend to only see what he has done in Boston. At the time he was just a contract shedding by Florida. the only reason Beckett was available was thats what they had to give up to get rid of Lowells contract. he was making alot of money and had come off two consecutive declining seasons and was turning 31 years old. Not exactlyt the recipe for success for the next 4 years.
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by bigsteve on
Jul 17, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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Yet,
I still wanted him at the time. Blalock hadn’t had a good full season in 2 years at the time.
I was always bummed that the Rangers dithered so long on that one.
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by DJCahill on
Jul 17, 2008 2:03 PM CDT
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I think you are mistaken
The two previous seasons he had averaged 160 games, had a .269 avg, averaged 28 HRs and 100 rbi and was only 24. If you wanted to give that up for a 31 year old coming off a .236/ .298/ .360 season with 18 million remaining and 2 years left on his contract then I don’t know what to say
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by bigsteve on
Jul 17, 2008 2:17 PM CDT
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Blalock was
a 730/740 OPS both years, with an OPS+ around 90, and fell apart completely during the 2nd half.
I’m not mistaken about that.
I was willing to take Lowell as a filler at 3B to get Beckett, because I didn’t think then, and I don’t think now, that we would deeply regret losing Blalock, and Beckett has Ace potential.
I viewed it as Joe Crede and a prospect for one of the top 20 young arms in baseball, and a throw in veteran 3B.
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by DJCahill on
Jul 17, 2008 2:21 PM CDT
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No
You are mistaken. Lowells first year in Boston was 2006. Blalock in 2004 was a .855 OPS with an OPS+ of 113. In 2005 he dipped a little and was a .749 with an OPS+ of 93. But again he was only 24 and if you had the crystal ball to envision Lowell doing what he has done at his age in Boston and hank doing what he has done at his age in Texas since then then you my friend are in the wrong business.
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by bigsteve on
Jul 17, 2008 2:35 PM CDT
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as parcells would say
consider yourself sucked. Lowell had a bad 05 and his stock was low because of an injury. Boston knew exactly what they were doing. Lowell mashes lefties, still a good 3B, and bringing him into Fenway from a absolutely great pitchers park was going to help a lot as well. Epstein WANTED Lowell in the trade, but it was portrayed by the media that he was a ‘throw in’, when in fact, he was not…
By the way, Lowell was pretty good in FLA too..
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by Longhorn on
Jul 17, 2008 2:13 PM CDT
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Uh Lowell sucked leading up to that trade
and yes, he was contract shed. That’s it.
by cmkelly29 on
Jul 18, 2008 12:32 AM CDT
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Actually, if Danks was included from the start
trade would have went down.
Just playing the ‘that is what was actually being reported in FLA’ role.
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by Longhorn on
Jul 17, 2008 12:30 PM CDT
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If Danks was included from the start...
...Florida goes to the BoSox and gets Hanley in the deal earlier…
by Adam J. Morris on
Jul 17, 2008 2:09 PM CDT
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you may be right
you may be wrong.
But certainly Hicks doesn’t agree with your assessment, and he was just a little closer to it than you are.
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by DJCahill on
Jul 17, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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Okay
Daniels says otherwise, though, and normally, you aren’t the type to put a lot of credence into what Hicks says.
by Adam J. Morris on
Jul 17, 2008 2:40 PM CDT
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I don't recall
Daniels saying otherwise.
Do you have a link?
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by DJCahill on
Jul 17, 2008 2:43 PM CDT
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Again, Boston didn't even get involved till a few days later
here
http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/6/2/16815/35449#2643894
http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/8/29/113623/432#2678077
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by Longhorn on
Jul 17, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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Meh
FLA is going to run our offer by Boston before pulling the trigger. It’s the same thing we were doing with Atlanta’s Tex deal before accepting
Boston bit on Beckett. The Dodgers and Angels didn’t bite on Tex.
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by TheBZA on
Jul 17, 2008 2:34 PM CDT
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huh?
i just proved that was not the case. Whatever, selective evidence is what we look at now. I get it.
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by Longhorn on
Jul 17, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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One quote
Is hardly proof. Do you really think teams say “Okay!” immediately after a good trade proposal? Outside of maybe the Kazmir/Zambrano trade I’m pretty sure they shop that offer one last time before accepting….
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by TheBZA on
Jul 17, 2008 3:33 PM CDT
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okay
you’re right, the marlins said include Danks in the trade and we’ll do it, but let me take that offer 3 days later to other teams and check it out. right.
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by Longhorn on
Jul 17, 2008 3:48 PM CDT
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Milty
I’d rather have him as the DH, playing outfield only about twice a week. I would never count on him being healthy enough to play the field very often, and I don’t want another guy (Blalock) like that around.
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by t ball on
Jul 17, 2008 10:58 AM CDT
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Aren't we already stuck with Cat
as the DH who can’t hit lefties? I think we are full at that position. I really don’t see spending $6.5 million for something that would be as redundant as having Cat and Blalock on the same team.
I think our odds of trading Cat are about as good as trading Blalock.
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by DJCahill on
Jul 17, 2008 11:01 AM CDT
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I'd just as soon cut Cat
he’s okay for what he is, but we have no need for him at all.
I guess I could see just dumping Blalock to save the cash so you could spend it elsewhere, but I think he’s got enough potential left in his tank that he could seriously bite is in the ball sack if he stays healthy in his contract year next year. Cat doesn’t really have that potential.
It’s basically a no-win situation we’ve got ourselves in with Hank.
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by thedirkatron on
Jul 17, 2008 11:07 AM CDT
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Agreed
That’s why I am content with taking a “We’ll take what we can get” type package with Hank. I think some kind of C/C+ reliever arm in AA is a reasonable return. Is that a reasonable guess? Am I aiming too low?
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
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by TheBZA on
Jul 17, 2008 11:19 AM CDT
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If you cut Cat
and keep Blalock, you’re basically paying $10.5M for your platoon DH by virtue of exercisign the $6.5M option and eating Cat’s $4M. Is Blalock $6.5M x greater as your platoon DH than Cat?
by robert_d_wilfong on
Jul 17, 2008 11:28 AM CDT
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Yep.
You nailed it. I just can’t see re-signing Blalock, when he isn’t a big upgrade over Cat, and you either pay $10.5 for Blalock and releasing Cat, or $4M for Cat.
If you thought Blalock might pay 3B, there might be an argument for re-signing him, but with Chris Davis and Cat under contract, exercising Blalock’s option looks sillier and sillier.
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by DJCahill on
Jul 17, 2008 1:11 PM CDT
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There is no reason to keep Blalock
and you certainly don’t keep him just because you hate to dump someone for nothing. I have no confidence he will rebuild value, ever. Yes, his value is low, but it is always going to be low. Move on.
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by t ball on
Jul 17, 2008 11:48 AM CDT
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agrree
Just DFA Catalanotto to make room for Blalock. Maybe just release Frank out of respect.
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by RangerMad on
Jul 17, 2008 11:58 AM CDT
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Clark again
If the Padres can get something for Tony Clark, then why can’t the Rangers get something for Catalanotto?
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by DerekSTheRed on
Jul 17, 2008 12:57 PM CDT
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yep
and Cat is a lot more versatile than Clark and a better hitter.
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by Longhorn on
Jul 17, 2008 1:00 PM CDT
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salary
Of course Clark costs a lot less and is a free agent at the end of this year. The Rangers my have to include cash with Cat in order to trade him.
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by DerekSTheRed on
Jul 17, 2008 1:08 PM CDT
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bingo
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by willamos2 on
Jul 17, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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He really isn't more versatile.
Tony Clark could play a lot of positions badly if you forced him to.
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by DJCahill on
Jul 17, 2008 1:11 PM CDT
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+1
And, for whatever reason, Tony Clark is looked upon as a “leader”, the kind of guy who makes a clubhouse better.
Cat? He’s just sort of a little quiet guy.
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by thedirkatron on
Jul 17, 2008 2:16 PM CDT
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going into 2009
would it be so bad to have a healthy Milton Bradley playing RF all the time, leaving DH open for a combination of Davis/Blalock, whoever is not at 1B for the day, and maybe Max-Ram, if he’s up and not catching?
compare that scenario to our 2008 opening day of Laird and Stewart rotating at C, with Broussard starting at 1B…
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by Walter Sobchak on
Jul 17, 2008 3:38 PM CDT
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Wow
gazeelse = gazelle
I’m half retarded this morning.
thediraktron no function coffee well without.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 17, 2008 10:17 AM CDT 0 recs
Haha.
You know, I try not to be a grammar jockey on this board, but that is a horrendous misspelling. Gave me a laugh. :)
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by ghtd36 on
Jul 17, 2008 10:19 AM CDT
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I thought you were talking about
Gisele Bundchen.
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
by WyoRanger on
Jul 17, 2008 10:32 AM CDT
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just this morning??
i thought it was all the time!
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by rentz on
Jul 17, 2008 10:33 AM CDT
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Let's go to the scoreboard:
70 to 48.5 = Ownership
Bwa Ha Ha!
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