New Rangers newsletter up

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 17, 2008 10:37 AM CDT

Evan Grant has the latest edition of the DMN Rangers newsletter up...

We have updates on Wilmer Font, Justin Smoak, and Robbie Ross, a reader calling out Doug Melvin, and the chances of Eddie Guardado and Milton Bradley getting dealt, among other things...

Check it out...

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I was thrilled

by the HR derby, a real fun fan moment for me. But I think Grant is just a wee bit optimistic in its effect on the organization as a whole.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 17, 2008 11:00 AM CDT 0 recs

Again we seen an Anthony Reyes mention. Also, EG says that a package including Millwood could get Phil Hughes… that seems unlikely. But I can daydream for a few minutes and imagine that the Rangers send a package with Millwood and two or three good prospects to NY for Hughes, and then the Rangers send Bradley and Salty to Boston for Buchholz. Never would happen, but its fun to think about…. isn’t it?

by JBImaknee on Jul 17, 2008 11:08 AM CDT 0 recs

Millwood for Hughes?

Millwood and Bradley wouldn’t even get you Hughes. Hughes is untouchable. If Brian Cashman rejected Johan Santana for Hughes, how could he just a few months later accept Millwood for Hughes? It doesn’t make any sense at all. If he really wanted to trade Hughes he could have had Rich Harden or C.C. Sabathia. To think that Hughes is tradeable is absurd and makes me think we should question if Grant is taking his own newsletters seriously.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up 0 recs

Well

It sounded like EG was saying Millwood and a couple of prospects for Hughes.

How about:

NY gets: Millwood, Beavan and Lemon
Tex gets: Hughes

by sftxfan on Jul 17, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up 0 recs

Regardless of talent

do you honestly think Brian Cashman could do that from a PR standpoint?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up 0 recs

If, and that's a huge if

Cashman were willing to discuss Hughes he would want someone in return much closer to the majors than Beavan.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 17, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up 0 recs

The fact that we would be trading back prospects

makes it even harder to get Hughes because fans of the Yankees don’t know any of the Rangers’ prospects but they sure know who Johan Santana is! Now if we wanted to discuss Hughes for say Elvis Andrus (they will need someone to replace jeter), Max Ramirez (Posada has become an awful catcher and will need to be replaced in a couple of years), and Michael Main…they will probably listen to us on the phone.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up 0 recs

needs more

Millwood, TT, JMJ for Hughes. That would give the Rangers solid #2 and #3 SP for a good 4 years or so.

"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch

by RangerMad on Jul 17, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up 0 recs

on second thought

I’m dreaming. Lets look at it another way. Would you trade Hurley for Millwood, TT and JMJ. Probably not. I need to stop drinking koolaid for lunch.

"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch

by RangerMad on Jul 17, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

if i needed a catcher I might

hughes > hurley though.

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Jul 17, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

if NYY throw in the towel

Posada isn’t getting any younger and JMJ might be better next year than some OFers they have been playing lately. The Rangers would probably have to add a young pitching prospect to make it work.

"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch

by RangerMad on Jul 17, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up 0 recs

I take my newsletters very seriously

I believe my exact words on Millwood were “I’m sure the Rangers would be open to putting together a package of veteran parts that might help try to pry Phil Hughes loose from the Yankees.”

Do I think Millwood and Bradley might do it? Not real sure. But I also know that desperate times (and the Yankees may well be desperate) call for desperate measures. There’s no accounting for what happens in New York in search of the playoffs every year. Would they be willing to do some kind of deal? I’d bet they’d be interested in Millwood and Bradley. For Hughes? Probably not. Would rather talk about somebody lesser.

I didn’t report anything as news only that these are scenarios I could envision the Rangers pursuing. Who thought Tex was going to fetch the package he eventually fetched last year? Not me. The trade deadline has a way of making people act more on impulse. So, I’ll just leave it at that.

By the way, I appreciate y’all reading and writing into the newsletter very, very much. And I take the responsibility of interacting with y’all even more seriously than the newsletter. The web makes journalism a much more personal interaction between writer and reader and I’m very aware of that responsibility.

Thanks for reading,
Evan

by Evan Grant on Jul 17, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up 0 recs

Cashman

has never done anything that ‘desperate’, even with the Steinbreners hovering over him.

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 17, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up 0 recs

Now its Hank not George

I think how desperate NY gets will depend largely on how TB opens up these next 10 days after the break. If TB gets back to playing winning baseball I could easily see NY becoming more and more desperate. If TB continues their slide I think NY will believe their experience will overcome the young Rays.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 17, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up 0 recs

If NY

trades Hughes for Millwood and Bradley and the Yanks don’t win the World Series, Cashman will and should be fired.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up 0 recs

not gonna argue about that

Simply stating that as much as most of this sounds like stupid ideas and talking out our ass when the time comes and they have to make a final decision on how to improve their team to try and win THIS YEAR, which is the only idea in NY, they may do something nobody expects. Hughes wasn’t included for Santana. That was before the year. Back when NY was counting on Hughes and Kennedy and Wang. Now that we are midseason and things have shaken out the way they have and they are looking up at not only Boston but TB they may not value Hughes the way they have before.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 17, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up 0 recs

so

It’s still Cashman.

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 17, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up 0 recs

Glad to have you here

I probably went a little overboard with the taking it seriously thing and i’m sorry, I know you do. It really wasn’t meant to even be targeted at you just a bunch of far-fetched comments about the Rangers on this board lately about trying to pursue Hughes or Buchholz for such a cheap price that it is somewhat unrealistic. I would love to do a Hughes for Bradley and Milly package, but I can’t imagine Cashman making that move considering how devoted he has been to his plan of re-stocking the rotation internally (Joba, Hughes, Kennedy). If Hughes couldn’t be had for Santana I can’t see him being had at all at this deadline otherwise they would have just traded him for Harden or Sabathia.

I do think if we mentioned Milly and Bradley, we could get Kennedy out of them. All in all though, if we are to trade Bradley, I’d rather trade him to Tampa Bay, who has more pitching to give up in their farm.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up 0 recs

Bradley

I think that either Boston (if Ortiz falters) or Tampa are a better target. Tampa particularly since they are looking a making the playoffs for the first time. Think back to 1996 – we’d have traded anyone not immediately contributing to make the playoffs. Come July 31, they may be willing to open the bank up.

I think New York needs pitching more than offense. I could see them going for a package of Millwood+a catcher (MaxRam?)

by JBImaknee on Jul 17, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

and more

by JBImaknee on Jul 17, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

Keep up the good work Evan

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Jul 17, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

grant sticking up for melvin

bah.

if you followed this team for any length of time, you know the hardest part of being a GM is player development. making a couple random deadline deals does not a playoff team make. grant’s answer refuses to acknowledge that the biggest contributing factor to melvin’s success was luck.

and lets give melvin credit for the playoffs in milwaukee when that actually happens.

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 17, 2008 11:14 AM CDT 0 recs

Yep, especially since, if he does go to the playofffs, he'll be doing it with his predecessor's guys again

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jul 17, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

But he's a really nice guy....

Who was nice and accessible to the media. It’s amazing how much that gets you.

Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!

by DaheelzCM on Jul 17, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

+1

I think that is what has made all the difference in the world concerning people’s memory of him here.

Physician: Primum non nocere

Batter: First, make no out

by Chad Crudup on Jul 17, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up 0 recs

Rangers better worry more about

raising the “public consciousness” of local dfw fans looking at the abysmal attendance and TV ratings.

by SanDiegoKev on Jul 17, 2008 11:51 AM CDT 0 recs

Millwood for Hughes

Like one guy said….Millwood and Bradley wouldn’t get you Hughes. Brian Cashman is not stupid. One would have to have brain damage to make that trade.

Speaking of Milton Bradley…....this is the last guy on my team I want to trade. He’s one of our best players. If I’m GM, I’m thinking of offering a long term contract to him. This isn’t Kenny Lofton.

The 3 guys I see as possible trades are Guardado, Catalanotto, and CJ Wilson.

The Catman has always tore it up in Yankee stadium and it be somewaht of a salary dump.

Everyday Eddie and SurferBoy could bring us back some nice prospects.

Lbrooks

by LBrooks on Jul 17, 2008 12:10 PM CDT 0 recs

Cat

Cat also has played really well against Boston.

Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!

by DerekSTheRed on Jul 17, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up 0 recs

yep no way we get Hughes unless....

we throw an enormous package like Millwood, Davis, Felix.

and I don’t think anyone of us want to see that.

by clinton33 on Jul 17, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

+1 that's what it would take and nobody wants that

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up 0 recs

Umm...

No. Hughes is good, but people here are acting like he’s Joba.

There is no way Hughes is worth Davs and Feliz.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 17, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

I like the Cardinals rumor that would involve parting with Rasmus better than this one involving Reyes.

On a very different note, it’s amazing how 28 exhibition HRs seems to have put a positive light on and national awareness of the Rangers that $252M was unable to do.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jul 17, 2008 12:13 PM CDT 0 recs

In fact, I'm done calling ARod by ARod, he's now officially called 252M in my book.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jul 17, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up 0 recs

I prefer D-Rod

Short for Douchebag Rodriguez.

Hopefully he’s not reading this and won’t pop on here and # me like EG did to AGreen.

by robert_d_wilfong on Jul 17, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

+1

"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008

by Captain Fubar on Jul 17, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up 0 recs

Like it, just can't say it in family-friendly settings. I'm sticking with 252M.

252M is more robotic sounding also.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jul 17, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

Anthony Reyes

Sucks pretty hard. 5.38 ERA, 1.350 ERA in 220 big league innings in the NL, and he’s already 26, gonna be 27 this year. Aside from one World Series start, Reyes has been a total bust for the Cardinals. I do not want him at all.

A Lonestar in California

Classic iorange555: "lmao too bad i watched [the all-star game] at a friends house ;[ much funer on here"

by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2008 8:01 AM CDT up 0 recs

*1.350 WHIP

A Lonestar in California

Classic iorange555: "lmao too bad i watched [the all-star game] at a friends house ;[ much funer on here"

by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2008 8:02 AM CDT up 0 recs

Some bad news.

Kasey Kiker, the Rangers’ first-round pick in 2006, has been placed on the DL at Class A Bakersfield with left arm fatigue. Usually, when the Rangers use “arm fatigue” to describe a prospect’s injury status, it means they believe he’ll be out less than a month.

This sucks but this atleast explains why his velo was down in his last start (as Shroom pointed out).

by coolaid on Jul 17, 2008 12:44 PM CDT 0 recs

thanks for the info

probably no big deal though.

when these guys are still years off the minor injuries dont really bother me. as long as its really a minor injury.

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Jul 17, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up 0 recs

fatigue OK

Shoulder pain or forearm tightness, not OK.

"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch

by RangerMad on Jul 17, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up 0 recs

Kennil Gomez

I have a feeling he’s on an “arm fatigue” layout as well. He only pitched like 37 innings last season.

Rangers Farm Probables

by shroomer on Jul 17, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

Probably wise

Feldman may get a fatigue assignment soon, too, if they can get anyone else healthy.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 17, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

Good stuff

I really do hope we can end the season with free agents thinking this might be the place to be in the near future.

by corbsclinton on Jul 17, 2008 1:26 PM CDT 0 recs

Reyes

is no way in hell a top of the rotation pitcher. I know our pitching sucks but really?

by meatbonelefty on Jul 17, 2008 2:24 PM CDT 0 recs

I'm glad I'm not the only one unimpressed with Reyes.

I’d prefer a package that included Jaime Garcia, a 22-yo LHP who’s been in AAA for about 70 innings and throws ground balls with a fair amount of Ks, to one fronted by Reyes.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jul 17, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up 0 recs

Terry Austin

pwned by EG.

Ha!

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jul 17, 2008 3:34 PM CDT 0 recs