OT: Mavs Make Offer for Ron Artest

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 12:02 PM CDT Comment 42 comments

According to a source close to Dallas, the Mavericks offered 14th year swingman Jerry Stackhouse and fourth-year forward Brandon Bass for Kings small forward Ron Artest.

The Kings are not expected to entertain the offer if it doesn't include Dallas small forward Josh Howard, but the inquiry certainly reveals the level of the Mavs' interest. According to the source, Howard does not appear to be available even if the Mavs are looking for a significant addition after falling to New Orleans in the first round of the postseason. -- Sacramento Bee

I'm not sure if there is any point in adding Artest if we have to give up Josh Howard, as I don't think it would bring the Mavs back to being a top-tier team in the West. Simultaneously, it is going to be difficult to add a major piece without giving up Howard. If we can do it for just Stackhouse and Bass, I think the Mavs jump right back up to the elite of the West. I'd hate to get rid of Bass but you have to do it if you are getting a guy like Artest in return.

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that would be a great move for the Mavs

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 17, 2008 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

By the way

no way in hell the Kings do that deal.

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 17, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

Sacramento would be braindead to take that, especially because you have to figure that they’re going to get much better offers elsewhere.

"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon

by ghtd36 on Jul 17, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think.....

the players involved hit the wire in the hopes that someone will better. Sac is pushing it to the press because they don’t have better offers already. I kind of doubt the get better offers actually. They just won’t trade him.

by bdavison94 on Jul 17, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Regardless

it is interesting that the Mavs would made the offer. I don’t think it is that crazy. I’d rather do that deal over Odom.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope

They wouldn’t do this. However, if we threw enough expirers together to take bad their bad contract as well (Kenny Thomas) we might be in business.

I’m not sure they’re going to get a whole lot of great offers for Artest, and Kenny Thomas has 20mil left on his two year deal. It’s possible.

by jthig32 on Jul 17, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is a posing

They’re doing what the Rangers do: “See, we tried to improve our team, but the other team just didn’t bite. Oh well.” The Mavs knew that offer wouldn’t work. They’re just trying to take some of the blame off them for putting out another very average team next year.

by Apes and Androids on Jul 17, 2008 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

-1

What are you talking about? Rangers have tried their best to get FAs to come here…so, if they don’t come, that’s the Rangers ‘posing’??

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 17, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Awesome

Here I thought this meme had completely died on LSB.

Vive la difference!

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 17, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well it's what happened

when we bid for one of the Japanese dudes. Can’t remember which one.

by Apes and Androids on Jul 17, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

fukumori?

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 17, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And there you have it, folks.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 17, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

have what?

by Apes and Androids on Jul 17, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

It just didn’t sound convincing. I mean, forget it, it’s subjective from where the fans sit. If you want to believe Hicks gambles with tens of millions on whether FAs will sign, go for it. Where I sit that’s just not the simplest explanation…

Are you associated with the band Apes and Androids?

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 17, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

define associated.

not really associated. just enjoy the music.

by Apes and Androids on Jul 18, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sweet.

NBA is awesome

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 17, 2008 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

sweet.

MLB is awesome

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Goodell hates the players, but loves the coaches and managment

What a fool this guy is…NFL is awesome

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 17, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

only following the lead of the nba

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 17, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but i'm not defending goodell

what a stupid waste of money

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 17, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i still got ya beat

corruption involving officiating of the sport beats PED’s and gang signs…

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 17, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not really

limited corruption (two refs) in NBA vs. extreme breaking of law by baseball players (steroids/HGH).

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

replace extreme with high-volume

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

which one effects betting lines

and is connected to the mob?

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 17, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the NBA is far more offensive

I was just giving you a hard-time. It sucks that we’ve been watching this sport and a few of the refs have been cheating, it is really disgusting to even think about. Regardless, I still want Artest for Bass and Stackhouse!

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just one of the many reasons I don't like soccer

by robert_d_wilfong on Jul 17, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

german and italian leagues thats for sure.

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 17, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh! I want in! I want in!

Sweet.
Cycling is awesome.

by AirJordan on Jul 17, 2008 12:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

activity

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 17, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh shit.

Not this again.

"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon

by ghtd36 on Jul 17, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, at least cycling is trying to clean up their sport. They have the toughtest anti-doping rules of any sport.

by GregoryM on Jul 17, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's going to take

Stackhouse, Howard, Eddie Jones, AND taking on Kenny Thomas’ contract in order to get Artest and Francisco Garcia.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jul 17, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd love Garcia

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 17, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sign me up

by slash on Jul 17, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

heh

The Mavs have nothing to trade. That offer is pathetic. I like Brandon Bass but I think we has fans over estimate his trade value.

I’m comfortable with the Mavericks being the Dallas team on the slide, considering the other three are making significant steps forward. It’s going to be a long couple of years…

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Jul 17, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Cuban

I’m comfortable with the Mavericks being the Dallas team on the slide, considering the other three are making significant steps forward. It’s going to be a long couple of years…

But can Cuban take having his team be on the decline.

by sftxfan on Jul 17, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's the question

Not sure he has much of a choice right now.

by TheBZA on Jul 17, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cuban was lucky

Cuban was lucky when he bought the mavs Nash, Finley and Dirk were all in place and on the upswing. Cuban did open his wallet in the beggining and brought enthusiasm but he eventually screwed it all up. It was Mark who thought Nash was done and then he went on to win 2 MVP’s. If Dirk and Nash kept playing together they would have won 2 championships—Don Nelson said. Don Nelson was the best thing that happened for this franchise and Mark screwed it up. Just recently we traded a young probably a border line All-Star in the future in Devin Harris for a 35 year old aging Jason Kidd and traded multiple draft picks along with it. Mark Cuban is overrated as an owner. Jerry Jones will always be the best owner in this town.

by Monkey Brain on Jul 17, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, you're wrong.

I know I’m more of a Cuban apologist than most, but you’re wrong. Don Nelson sucks, but so did Avery so that’s a wash. No way in hell the Mavs would’ve won 2 championships with Nash. He has arguable better talent around him in PHX and didn’t do anything. Kidd trade looks bad now, but we still got a year or two to see how it turns out….

by AirJordan on Jul 17, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sooo

Jerry trading two first round picks for Joey Galloway, what as that, a brilliant move?

All GM (or owners making GM decisions) have hits and misses.

If you don’t think Cuban is part of the solution then you weren’t a fan of the Mavs in the mid 90’s.

by jthig32 on Jul 17, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jerry

Jerry has learned in recent years from past mistakes. He gave a lot of power away to fix the Cowboys when he made Parcells the cowboys coach and it paid off. Cuban has a big ego and that will never happen with him. Jerry has 3 rings Cuban has none. Jerry is by far the best owner in DFW. I’ve been a fan of the mavs my entire life and the Mavs were all ready an up and coming team when he bought the franchise. Cuban is an overrated owner.

by Monkey Brain on Jul 17, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs