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Around SBN: Are The Orioles Bad Or Unlucky With Their Young Pitching?

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Jason Cole linked this in the sidebar last night, but for those who didn't see it, he has a Q&A up in the free section of his site.

Some good stuff on Blake Beavan's low K rate, Cristian Santana's power potential, and the young middle infielders, among other things...

Check it out...

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Am I the only one

that has a Brandon Boggs / Wes Littleton moment when you think about Marcus Lemon?

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on Jul 18, 2008 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

black/white

I think he is referring to the fact that alot of people who had only heard their names and never seen their pics thought they were a different race than what they are.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 18, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, yah

I figured that, I was just wondering how he could be surprised Chet Lemon’s son was black.

I usually assume that when black parents have babies, the babies are gonna be black.

Apparently that Florida State University “education” isn’t really paying big dividends for Troy yet ;)

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 18, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

ouch...

haha, I just didn’t know anything about Lemon. Name alone, I just didn’t know any better.

I’m actually about to graduate with my Master’s in a few weeks… scary, huh?

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on Jul 18, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

masters in what?

basket weaving?

i kid i kid!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 18, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Applied Economics

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on Jul 18, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

With a focus in beating your fantasy team.

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on Jul 18, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

doesnt take a masters to do that

doesnt even require a ged

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 18, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

encouraging commentary on ballard

man, if our fringe prospects can turn into prospects, that would make it even more exciting to pay attention to the minors.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jul 18, 2008 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

guys surprising

There have been several of those this year. I think most of us are surprised at the numbers put up by Vallejo, Osuna, Gac, Kennil Gomez, Hunter, and Laughter this year. Maybe Moreland belongs on there, too.

On the disappointment side we have Whittleman, Castillo, and Santana, though it looks like he might be coming around, Zach Phillips, I don’t know, any others?

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 18, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Many more suprises than

disappointments this season, IMO. Very encouraging for the scouts & talent eval guys.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jul 18, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Poveda might be a mild disappointment.

JMJ might be a mild surprise.
Holland might be a surprise.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jul 18, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dutch

is a stunner, IMO.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jul 18, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not that surprised

by Holland, though I didn’t think he’d come on quite this strongly.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 18, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

He seems to agree with me on Beavan

I’m not worried about the low K totals since he’s also not walking guys and has a low ERA. I’d be worried if he wasn’t getting the strikeouts but was walking a lot of guys and/or was getting hit all over the park.

by Inkara1 on Jul 18, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

He needs to try and settle on down

IMO… i thhink he gets a bit nervous at times with runners on the bases. I know this can happen quite a bit early on. But it could become a serious problem. He needs try to relax, settle down and stay focused (yes, I know. easier said than done) when he’s got runners on. But damn, he’s getting hammered when he’s got runners on and in scoring position.

"Over the years, my favorite pastime outside baseball is driving through a pasture looking at cattle." - Nolan Ryan

by hurlerhurley on Jul 18, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Incorrect

With men on base, Beavan has a .94 WHIP and is only allowing a .618 OPS against. With RISP, Beavan has a .90 WHIP and is only allowing a .626 OPS against.

Beavan actually performs better with runners on base.

by jparks77 on Jul 18, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not incorrect

He’s giving up quite a bit of runs with men on base and in scoring position.

His ERA is near 5.00 with runners on and that’s not very good. And neither ishis ERA (7.08) with runners in scoring postion. He’s not pitching well with RISP. He’s given up 18 earned runs in 33 IP with runners on and in 20 of those innings pitched, 16 of those earned runs have came with RISP. Also, nearly half his 9 HR he’s gave up have been with runners on.

It’s ugly… he’s losing control with runners on. He needs to get his shit straightened out real quick.

If you think he’s performing better with runners on base then I’m extremely confused at your thinking on this.

"Over the years, my favorite pastime outside baseball is driving through a pasture looking at cattle." - Nolan Ryan

by hurlerhurley on Jul 19, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are incorrect
His ERA is near 5.00 with runners on and that’s not very good. And neither ishis ERA (7.08) with runners in scoring postion. He’s not pitching well with RISP. He’s given up 18 earned runs in 33 IP with runners on and in 20 of those innings pitched, 16 of those earned runs have came with RISP. Also, nearly half his 9 HR he’s gave up have been with runners on.

It’s ugly… he’s losing control with runners on. He needs to get his shit straightened out real quick.

If you think he’s performing better with runners on base then I’m extremely confused at your thinking on this.

MLB pitchers, as a whole, have an ERA of almost 9 with RISP, and an ERA of 6.68 with runners on. The reason why ERAs are so much higher with runners on and RISP is because those are the situations when most runners score.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/aggregate?sort=ERA&split=39&group=9&season=2008&seasonType=2&statType=pitching&type=reg

He’s not “losing control” with runners on base. Like Jason said, he’s doing better with runners on, not worse.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 19, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Alllllrighty then...

I’m extremely confused at my thinking on this. Then again, that’s nothing new for me.

"Over the years, my favorite pastime outside baseball is driving through a pasture looking at cattle." - Nolan Ryan

by hurlerhurley on Jul 19, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

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