Minors 7/19/08
Nellie Cruz has gone deep twice (28,29) for OKC
Elvis is 2-2 with 2 RBI and got stolen base #38 for Frisco
Ryan Tatusko went 7 shutout innings for Clinton and K'd 5
Miguel De Los Santos went 3 scoreless for the AZL Rangers and K'd 4
Martin Perez is about to take the hill for Spokane
Dutch goes for Bakersfield in about 30 minutes
I drank too much last night so I'm staying in tonight and the Rangers (thank God) are already done. So, feel free to talk minors, Erin Andrews, Dark Knight, whatever...I'm posted up for the evening.
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Seriously
I rather have us get a last look at Cruz then have Byrd playing semi-regularly. I know Byrd can play CF but that about it.
by coolaid on Jul 19, 2008 9:24 PM CDT 0 recs
Another good night
3-4 , 3 HR’s and 5 RBI
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on
Jul 19, 2008 9:26 PM CDT
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yup
just another day for him. I know he is old and all but what does he have to do to oust Byrd?
by coolaid on
Jul 19, 2008 9:36 PM CDT
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He can't do anything.
The only way he gets called up is if someone gets hurt or Byrd gets traded. After what he’s done so far this season, it doesn’t seem like he can earn his way back.
by LiamP on
Jul 19, 2008 9:48 PM CDT
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I have been fine with leaving him down there all season
because the OF has been in good shape and he has built up some trade value and if you bring him up and he lays an egg…he loses most of that. But now, I am all for giving him another shot. His numbers are absolutely insane. If there isn’t someone out there ready to overpay for him, then I make him the everyday RFer down the stretch.
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on
Jul 19, 2008 9:36 PM CDT
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I agree
Bring him up and turn the Byrd loose.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on
Jul 19, 2008 9:39 PM CDT
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1st Inning for Perez
2 hits, 1 BB, 1 K, 2 groundouts, 0 runs
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on Jul 19, 2008 9:39 PM CDT 0 recs
Sabathia has some serious power
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on
Jul 19, 2008 9:45 PM CDT
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jose reyes..
thrown out by all three molina’s in the span of 12 days
thats awesome
by tyd3311 on
Jul 19, 2008 9:45 PM CDT
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Dark Knight...
let me down. I know, I’m going to hear a lot of “are you kidding me?” responses, but Heath Ledger was good, NOT oscar-worthy, and the movie actually wasn’t as good in my mind as Batman Begins.
Bring Cruz up pronto. that is all
"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 19, 2008 9:47 PM CDT 0 recs
I'm tired of hearing about it
With all the media attention it’s gotten I’m wondering if it cures cancer or something. If Ledger was still alive would it get this much attention?
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on
Jul 19, 2008 10:05 PM CDT
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Obviously, not as much
But It’d still be lauded as one of the best films of this decade.
See it for yourself, It’s far too difficult for me to summarize two and a half hours without giving spoilers.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739
by BudLight on
Jul 19, 2008 10:30 PM CDT
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OK, let me elaborate a little
Ledger’s Joker is the most well-portrayed, chilling villain I’ve seen since Anthony Hopkins’ Hannibal Lecter.
And while my opinion may cool once the initial rush has worn off, right now I’d have to consider it the best movie I’ve seen probably since Gump or Shawshank.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739
by BudLight on
Jul 19, 2008 10:56 PM CDT
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Ledger was money...
but the movie was good, not great. That’s just my opinion.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Jul 20, 2008 3:02 AM CDT
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Ledger was great
but when you look at some of the past Jokers (i.e. Jack Nicholson), its not really that hard to become the epitome of what the Joker should look like, like Ledger has become…
"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno
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by hinduplaya on
Jul 20, 2008 9:00 AM CDT
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Perez through 2 innings
5 hits, 2 runs, 1 BB, 1 K
And he can’t chew it over in the dugout because he isn’t old enough to buy tobacco
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on Jul 19, 2008 9:55 PM CDT 0 recs
chew
Heh, I chewed in little league and I bought it myself. Probably couldn’t do that these days. I don’t think I’ve chewed since little league actually…
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on
Jul 19, 2008 10:06 PM CDT
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Well some gas stations seem to operate on the honor system
I was in line behind a kid who looked about 16 the other day and he throws a 6 pack up on the counter and the guy working just asks him how old he is. He told him 23, bought the beer and left. I don’t care one way or the other, but it made me laugh cause they had like ten of those “21 means 21” signs around the counter and door area.
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on
Jul 19, 2008 10:10 PM CDT
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True story
When I was 12 my cousin and I rode our bikes into town, bought a 12-pack each at the local hole in the wall, and carried it home on our bikes. Drank ourselves silly, and somehow had the presence of mind to clean everything up before my mom got home from work in the morning. Crazy summer. While other kids were off to camp I was testing Tickle Pink, blue ribbon beer, and Mad Dog.
“Mama tried, mama tried…”
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on
Jul 19, 2008 10:16 PM CDT
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I threw up in my mouth a little when I saw Mad Dog on your list
I have had more than one bad experience with that stuff
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on
Jul 19, 2008 10:19 PM CDT
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"that Nighttrain is a mean wine"
"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08
.501 or bust!
by Jayslick on
Jul 20, 2008 12:28 AM CDT
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Where’d you grow up, dude?
I have to admit, while familiar with the MD 20/20, I do not know Tickle Pink.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on
Jul 20, 2008 12:34 AM CDT
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Western New York
Boone’s Farm is a cheap flavored apple wine, Tickle Pink and Fuzzy Navel are two flavors I imbibed when young. I wouldn’t touch it now.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on
Jul 20, 2008 6:01 AM CDT
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Ahh yes the boones,
We used to get a dozen of those when we were younger and indulged. But like you say T, I wouldn’t touch it.
R u from western NY?
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on
Jul 20, 2008 6:53 AM CDT
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From western NY
yes, grew up south of Buffalo, small, small towns, Collins area. Family still lives there. Aren’t you from Rochester or something?
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on
Jul 20, 2008 12:11 PM CDT
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one of my best friends lives up there. She lives in Newark. Everyone always tries to correct me and say New Jersey but no there is a Newark, New York.
by Kevin McBrayer on
Jul 20, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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Yeah buddy,
Im from Rochester, or Ra Cha Cha as we like to call it.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on
Jul 20, 2008 8:17 PM CDT
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Perez worked around an error in the third by picking him off 1st base
and then getting back to back pop outs to second base. Same line through 3
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on
Jul 19, 2008 10:18 PM CDT
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Holland worked a quick and easy 1-2-3 1st Inning
a ground out and two fly outs
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on Jul 19, 2008 9:57 PM CDT 0 recs
2nd Inning
Strikeout, Strikeout, Groundout
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on
Jul 19, 2008 10:08 PM CDT
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Yea I heard them say that
and that was after they heaped praise on his slider in the previous strikeout.
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on
Jul 19, 2008 10:16 PM CDT
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He is getting ahead of everybody too
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on
Jul 19, 2008 10:20 PM CDT
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He's better than your boy Beavan
has the “mentality” you like with better ability
by Baider on
Jul 20, 2008 12:28 AM CDT
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at this point...
the reason is his gaining velocity…
by tyd3311 on
Jul 20, 2008 12:34 AM CDT
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that's one of them
better changeup, velocity, left-handed, more K’s, more experience…
I don’t dislike Beavan, just think he’s overrated. If he grew up in Kansas or New Jersey, he’d be just another high round pick.
by Baider on
Jul 20, 2008 12:56 AM CDT
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3rd Inning
Groundout to 2nd Base, Strikeout, Fly Out to the track
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on
Jul 19, 2008 10:22 PM CDT
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4th Inning
Line out to CF, Line out to 1B (Gac makes diving catch), Single to CF, Runner steals 2nd, Fly out to LF
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on
Jul 19, 2008 10:41 PM CDT
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Holland and Feliz
not to mention Hunter..
things could change dramatically for our pitching staff in the next year.
by tyd3311 on Jul 19, 2008 10:21 PM CDT 0 recs
or 2010
"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch
by RangerMad on
Jul 19, 2008 10:42 PM CDT
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Spokane exploded for 4 runs in the 3rd and 7 runs in the 4th
Perez is done. His Line;
4 Innings, 6 hits, 2 runs, 1 BB, 3 K
Spokane leads 11-2
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on Jul 19, 2008 10:53 PM CDT 0 recs
Derek Holland 5th Inning
Line out, Ground out, error by Gac, RBI double (runner thrown out trying to stretch it to a triple)
Blaze down 1-0 going into bottom of fifth
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on Jul 19, 2008 10:58 PM CDT 0 recs
Clinton's game was suspended due to wind after 12 innings
They are tied with Dayton at 1-1 and will finish the game tomorrow at 3:00
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on Jul 19, 2008 11:04 PM CDT 0 recs
Lemon 2-3 with 2 2B
Showing increasing power and batting .300+
by FirebatM3 on Jul 19, 2008 11:08 PM CDT 0 recs
Blaze get 3 runs in the 5th and lead 3-1
If Lemon can hit .300 with some gap power and his on base skills he will validate a lot of people’s praise of him.
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on
Jul 19, 2008 11:14 PM CDT
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Forget that
right now he has gap power at 173 lbs.
What happens when he gets to 185 or so? Yeah, he’ll probably be full time 2B (which he probably is already), but he might very well have 15 HR power as he develops
by FirebatM3 on
Jul 19, 2008 11:16 PM CDT
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Well if he develops that kind of power
to go with his OBP, he will be a very solid player. Add to that his decent speed (though he needs to work on his base running skills) and the fact that he would benefit defensively from a move to 2B. Lots to like in the Rangers’ system at the middle infield spots.
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
by SaltyDawg on
Jul 19, 2008 11:20 PM CDT
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Lemon mythology
Let’s see, I hate to burst the Joseph Campbellesque Lemon mythology but…
07 128g 31E (39E/162g) 12/26sb .462
08 78g 28E (58E/162g) 7/13sb .538
Hopefully a few more doubles will blind a future trade partner enough so that we can trade a future utility guy, a utility guy who can only be trusted to play second base, for a stud relief pitcher.
by Goyogringo on
Jul 20, 2008 2:40 AM CDT
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Most overrated
Lemon, Whittleman, Phillips, Schlact, Yan and Solis
by Goyogringo on
Jul 20, 2008 2:45 AM CDT
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I haven’t heard praise for anyone but Lemon on LSB.
I’d have to say the other players are unrated or frowned on (Whittleman).
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on
Jul 20, 2008 7:37 AM CDT
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Because Whittleman hasn't shown enough to prove he's actually a prospect.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739
by BudLight on
Jul 20, 2008 9:10 AM CDT
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Yeah
It would really be nice if we could get some kind of third base prospect at the deadline this year. Now that Borbon and Beltre are coming on a little more in the minors, I think the weak spot of this organization right now really is third base. We’ve basically got nobody in the farm system who you can call a future Major League option right now.
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by lonestarJon on
Jul 20, 2008 9:19 AM CDT
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not playing the position currently
but there are player who could potentially move there. I think you Vallejo is an option to move there since he reportedly has a great arm and of course is blocked by Kinsler. 3B also just isn’t much of a concern because of Young at the Major League level.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg1 on
Jul 20, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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.850 OPS
20 years old in a+. .400 OBP
No, if anything, he’s underrated by the majority of LSB
by FirebatM3 on
Jul 20, 2008 11:20 AM CDT
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I respect the fact that you like Lemon
but other than his advanced approach at the plate, what other plus skills does he posses? He is basically average across the board. At least for me, he was very underwhelming to watch on the field. Except for his dreamy eyes of course.
His stats as a 20 year old in High A have been excellent and his character is off-the-charts. But Lemon just doesn’t appear to have the skill set necessary to be classified as anything more than a solid utility player in the making.
I’d love to be wrong about him but he just doesn’t seem like a top 25 guy to me.
by jparks77 on
Jul 20, 2008 11:47 AM CDT
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Developing power, ability to hit for average
a history of hitting very well out of the leadoff spot and a model of consistency.
He has a higher slg% than a lot of those prospects we say is in the top 25 and is still developing as a hitter and in terms of his body.
Honestly, it comes back to three things – 1) I believe guys develop power, especially very young guys. Lemon isn’t a small dude, he’s already hitting a good amount of linedrives. Those are the guys that I think could develop power in the future. 2) I really value OBP. I think if he continues to be this patient. and if he develops power, we’ll have essentially Kenny Lofton. 3) With young players, I rarely care about high error totals, especially SS, since it seems the majority of them move out of the position anyways.
I see a .300/.400/.450 line as great for a 20 year old “SS” at high A. I don’t understand how anyone can look at his consistency and his performance and not say “holy crap, this guy is pretty good”.
by FirebatM3 on
Jul 20, 2008 11:58 AM CDT
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you should be singing the praises of
vallejo and duran then: developing power, hits for average, PLUS defense.
by Goyogringo on
Jul 20, 2008 8:56 PM CDT
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Errors
who cares?
Saying a player is not a prospect because of errors is unnecessarily restrictive. It’s like saying the worth of a prospect is solely determined by his draft position
by FirebatM3 on
Jul 20, 2008 11:19 AM CDT
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The error of Lemon's ways
but it’s not just errors, I’ve seen nothing but negative reviews of his defense, and I’ve never seen anyone defend his defense as being better than his error totals might indicate (as they do with guys like Arias and Andrus).
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on
Jul 20, 2008 12:13 PM CDT
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I've never seen anyone
discuss Lemon period. Being drafted, it was said he had great range, for all we know, he might very well still. Even then, even if he was a 2B or a LF long term, there’s a lot of value in a guy who hits for gap power with great plate patience. hell, Frank Catalanotto is proof that OBP will get you a job.
by FirebatM3 on
Jul 20, 2008 12:16 PM CDT
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Lemon
He doesn’t have great range and he doesn’t have a great arm.
by jparks77 on
Jul 20, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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He does however
have a terrific smile and very seductive eyes.
by jparks77 on
Jul 20, 2008 12:28 PM CDT
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If you can put up a .400 OPS
your bat will play anywhere, look at Cat and Lawton
by FirebatM3 on
Jul 20, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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Sure
but assuming that Lemon is going to be a .400 OBP guy at the major league level is quite a stretch.
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Jul 20, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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But assuming he's gonna be a .380 OBP 2b
isn’t much of a stretch, is it?
It’s funny that I get hated on for being high on Borbon despite his poor plate discipline, but when I get a man-boner for a guy like Lil’ Lemon who has incredible plate discipline I get hated on for that too.
My man crushes just can’t win with y’all, huh?
In all seriousness though, I see a guy who has great plate discipline, is young for his league, is developing some pretty nice gap power, who has decent MIF tools (seems to be a tweener to me: below average for a SS, but more than adequate for a 2b), and who is supposedly off the charts in terms of “intangibles”.
He lacks the requisite ceiling to be a star so I can’t rate him too high, but he looks like a guy who’s going to be a solid major leaguer for a very long time.
He’s in my top 15 for shizzle.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on
Jul 20, 2008 5:36 PM CDT
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Yes
I think a .380 OBP is probably a stretch as well.
by jparks77 on
Jul 20, 2008 6:01 PM CDT
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Yah well I think Matt Harrison is ugly and I've heard he has terrible manners
So there.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on
Jul 20, 2008 7:45 PM CDT
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Omar Vizquel
He had 25 errors in ‘87 and ‘88 during his minor league days and he wound up doing okay for himself.
by Kevin McBrayer on
Jul 20, 2008 1:47 PM CDT
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Lil' Lemon is the shiznit
Very underrated by many, imo.
His OBP skills are crazy good.
I heart him so hard it hurts.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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