It's The Pitching Dummy

by LBrooks on Jul 20, 2008 9:23 AM CDT Comment 49 comments

Rangers offense is the best in the League - whoopee!!!!!!

They're scoring 5.5 runs per game..........unfortunately, they're giving up 6.0 runs per game.

Pitching and Defense........isn't that what Ron Washington said when he came here? I'm sure he was right in line with Junior Daniels. Too bad our pitching is 29th in all of baseball when it comes to ERA, WHIP, walks, and runs given up.

Not to mention that our Defense is the worst in MLB.

We've played 98 games. We've scored 540 runs - we've given up 579 runs.

Think about this:

Our 2 main guys are Millwood and Padilla - that leaves our 3, 4, and 5 guys. Those guys have been Feldman,Gabbrad, Ponson, Mendoza, Jennings, Harrison, Hurley, Murray, and Mathis.

Those 3, 4, and 5 guys guys have given up 232 runs.

Now, think about this:

John Danks, Endison Volquez, and Armando Galarraga have combined to give up 111 runs.

Wait a minute........we got Josh Hamilton for Volquez.......yeah, the guy that is one Budweiser away from re-hab. He's got 96 rbis.

Let's look at it this way:

Say, we take Hamilton's offensive production and cut it in half - IOW - 48 rbis.

Then we throw out the 9 starters we have had this year and substitude with Danks, Volquez, and Galarraga.

We would then have an offense that averages 5.0 runs per game and a pitching staff gives up 4.7 runs per game.

Which would you rather have?

It's stuff like this that shows how totally INCOMPETENT John Daniels is a GM.

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Rehab

No hyphen.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 20, 2008 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Depends on what grammar you've learned

It used to be that everything starting with the prefix ‘re’ was hyphenated. No it’s different. Personally I prefer the hypens; it takes the confusion out of words like resign and re-sign.

by Apes and Androids on Jul 20, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah i know...

i never know if its resign as in resignation or someone has been re-signed.

by tyd3311 on Jul 20, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and speaking of grammar..

he should have put a comma after pitching, its the pitching, dummy.

by tyd3311 on Jul 20, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not to mention

needs to put “as” between “is” and “a GM” in the last line, ie.

”...It’s stuff like this that shows how totally INCOMPETENT John Daniels is [AS] a GM…”

Understandable mistake as he’s typing with one hand and tugging on his teenie weenie to the sound of his own “voice” with the other (well, probably just needs to use his thumb and forefinger…).

by Rangerchick on Jul 20, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nazi

The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ

by NYTXFAN on Jul 20, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rehab is short for rehabilitation.

You’re saying you’ve seen it re-habilitation? Even LSB’s spellchecker coughs that up, dude.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 20, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm feeling the itch to bust out a grammar nazi picture

But I won’t, because it’s totally okay to play gestapo on LBrooks posts. ;)

A Lonestar in California

Classic iorange555: "lmao too bad i watched [the all-star game] at a friends house ;[ much funer on here"

by lonestarJon on Jul 20, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

heh

almost thought about it too then you did, so i dont feel as bad.

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 20, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes it was once upon a time

Every word with the prefix ‘re’ was hyphenated.

Not anymore though, hence the spellchecker not catching it.

Though those were better days when word structure made sense.

by Apes and Androids on Jul 20, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope

Restitution. Resolution. Restaurant. Remarkable. Renovate. And the list goes on and on and on. True that some action verbs got hyphenated, such a re-examine, but only when a double vowel made clarification necessary. Sheesh.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Jul 20, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe I'm not explaining right...

the prefix ‘re’ (not of restaurant, because that ‘re’ isn’t a prefix) meaning ‘again’ was always hyphenated.

We’re not talking everytime the letters ‘re’ were used in a word, just whenever the prefix ‘re’ meaning ‘again’ is used. Sheesh.

by Apes and Androids on Jul 20, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

Rehabilitation does not need a hyphen, nor do any words with re as the first two letter. Even reexamination does not require a hyphen, to use Ed’s example.

Your “once upon a time” is just a fairy tale of bad grammar instruction.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 20, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, it stems from the Colonial collegiate grammar instruction

Like I said, of course, we don’t use it anymore, but it had value and reason behind it, which is probably why we stopped doing it. We like illogical ideas and standards.

by Apes and Androids on Jul 20, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

To further explain

my point is that it was proper, not is proper now. nothing is proper now.

by Apes and Androids on Jul 20, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry

I believe A&A is correct on this one.

by brettgardner on Jul 20, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll concede

perhaps they used this stuff back in the day when thee and thou were still considered useful in polite conversation…

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 20, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

YAWN

I stopped ~~reading~~ skimming as soon as I saw the names of Danks and Volquez. But it’s good to see LBrooks is still alive and kicking, I guess.

A Lonestar in California

Classic iorange555: "lmao too bad i watched [the all-star game] at a friends house ;[ much funer on here"

by lonestarJon on Jul 20, 2008 9:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ill take

josh hamilton and 2 games over .500

by tyd3311 on Jul 20, 2008 9:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ben Sheets next year is more like

Chan Ho Park, Rangers
Jason Schmidt, Giants
Roger Clemens, Toronto

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jul 20, 2008 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That was meant as a question.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Jul 20, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Interesting note about the Ho

Joe Torre is actually considering using him as part of a closer comittee in LA these days, with Takashi Saito out.

A Lonestar in California

Classic iorange555: "lmao too bad i watched [the all-star game] at a friends house ;[ much funer on here"

by lonestarJon on Jul 20, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its Not Just That

Hamilton wouldn’t be here. A lot of things would be different.
If the Rangers had kept all these pitchers that have been traded or otherwise eliminated, our farm system would not be built up the way it is now. If we had Young, Davis, Danks, Gallaraga, Padilla (maybe?), would the Rangers have dealt Tex, considering that our past as well as present would be different? Would we have acquired and dealt Gagne?
Could we have dealt Coco since we wouldn’t have had Aki?
I, for one, would like to take our chances with the pitchers we have traded being retained. It might have enriched our past, improved our present, but I’m not sure what it would do for our future.
I think that those who are really upset by our past trades need to give some thought to their impact on what we now have in the system.

by mcgee48c on Jul 20, 2008 10:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Another ridiculous fanpost...

This is the same shit you post in every thread LBrooks. Try not to be so stupid and put shit like Josh is “another Budweiser away from rehab” in your posts. What do you know about addiction anyway?

No one here thinks the pitching on this team is good right now. You are going to have to find something else to bitch about when the young pitchers coming up arrive. This is still a rebuilding team you dolt.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 20, 2008 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Everybody here thought pitching was GOING to be good

Check the predictions…all talk, no walk, slc

I Stole The Red Finger !

by Clueless on Jul 21, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is retarded.

-1. I might agree about Danks, but who knew about Volquez and ESPECIALLY Galarraga? Come on. The comment about Hamilton is just juvenile. Grow up.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jul 20, 2008 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Shit LBrooks is back?

After he stopped posting for 10 months, I kinda hoped he finally croaked or died in a fire or something. Oh well.

by FirebatM3 on Jul 20, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Your comments

read like needles in the eye. Please stop being so negative.

I Stole The Red Finger !

by Clueless on Jul 21, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You aren't adjusting for

ballpark factors in regard to total runs given up but you do bring up an interesting point so I’ll help strengthen it:

ERA+ =
Volquez 195
Danks 163
Galaragga 123

Feldman 82
Gabbard 86
Ponson 107
Mendoza 66
Jennings 48
Harrison 45
Hurley 116

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 20, 2008 12:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow, you must have ESP.

Please forward this post to the Rangers, I’m sure they have no idea that pitchers are needed to play baseball.

Your amazingly simplistic, non-reality based analysis is just what this team needs to be reading.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 20, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

some credit

The math you did here was actually pretty interesting. I don’t think it’s anything more than that, though. Still, you gave it slightly more thought that the typical “traded away all our pitching” post, so that’s nice.

But I’d still rather have Hamilton than any of those guys.

by naropean on Jul 20, 2008 12:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Except

of course the math would not be that simple. It is impossible to predict exactly how those pitchers would have done if still here, and it is further impossible to predict what the Rangers lineup and outfield would have done without Hamilton.

It is not a zero-sum game.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 20, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

goes without saying

But yes, a lot would be different. This was alluded to by mcgee a bit higher up, but you certainly say it in full. I agree 100%.

At least LBrooks brought fun numbers with him. The game isn’t played in math class, obviously, but it was an interesting, if ultimately pointless, exercise. Just trying to see the positive in the post.

by naropean on Jul 20, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just Ed being Ed

Or seven being seven.

seriously Ed, Galarraga didn’t do a damn thing while in our system. He posted an ERA under 4 exactly once at any level and that was in rookie ball for a grand total of 16 innings. Nobody would have seen him having the success he’s having SO FAR not to mention he pitches at Comerica Park. Volquez wouldn’t have near the ERA he has in Cincy and he certainly would have to cut down on his walks if he was still here, Yes he would be one of our top rotation guys but our r/gm would be higher than the 4.7 you suggest and probably over the 5 you say we would generate minus Hamilton.

Of course I know you make these posts to get the masses riled up.

have fun out at the lake…

by Kevin McBrayer on Jul 20, 2008 1:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Look at Galarraga's FIP and FIPx

That ERA is not sustainable for him.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 20, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you

are the redundant man of redundancy….....

“all ex-rangers suck…......sure, their stats are great but they are unsustainable.” -AJM. You should just type your thesis in a word doc and then cut and paste from time to time….. Thanks for the insight….

I've got a laptop for pleasure.....The Rangers for pain.

by red shoe ranger on Jul 20, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yah

God forbid someone look beyond surface stats and determine whether or not a guy’s success is sustainable and/or a product of the park where he plays his home games.

That’d be dumb.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 20, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it looks

like we’re all in agreeance…...

I've got a laptop for pleasure.....The Rangers for pain.

by red shoe ranger on Jul 20, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

x

Main Entry: agreeance
Part of Speech: n
Definition: the act of agreeing
Example: Usage of the site constitutes agreeance with these terms.
Usage: considered obsolete and a bastardization of ‘agreement’

by brettgardner on Jul 20, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

“I hope we are in agreeance… that this war should go away, right away…

by oc on Jul 21, 2008 2:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I only

take english lessons from fred durst….....sorry brett

I've got a laptop for pleasure.....The Rangers for pain.

by red shoe ranger on Jul 21, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good point!

Call the MLB Office and tell them that the Dirkatron stats indicate that the Rangers should be leading the division. Silly W-L record notwithstanding!

I Stole The Red Finger !

by Clueless on Jul 21, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the pitching is so bad

i’m not sure we just go ahead and consider next year a rebuilding year as well. Deal Millwood/Padilla this summer or winter. Deal Blalock, Bradley, Laird, Byrd.

by SteveP on Jul 20, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs