K Rod??
by HITX on Jul 21, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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PrintRumored to be looking for a 5 year deal worth 75 mill, should Texas make a run at one of the Angels biggest impact players? K-Rod will be 27 years old. He is possibly the biggest difference maker on the free agent market this off season. We could move Wilson to the eighth inning. This would give the Rangers one of the top bullpens in the league for the next few years. I know that starting pitching is our biggest need but, with the best available player doctorine JD preaches, isn't this a no brainer?
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Not for that much I wouldn't,
and I’d be suprised if any team does that for a guy who works only one inning. Five year 60 mil tops is what he gets, imo.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
Health?
Isn’t he a health time bomb? That motion, his build?
No No No No No No No!!!!!!!
I’d say No a hundred times if it helped convince you
He’s looking at being a ridiculously overpaid guy whose arm may fall off at any instant. He sounds to me like a classic Angels signing, or San Fran signing. Better not be a Ranger signing…
Ugh… nightmares.
DL
Ranger FA pitchers signings = DL
"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch
Cut about two years and $40 million off that contract and I'll listen
Not that he’s a bad closer, but even a bad closer would have 30-35 saves at a minimum with as many opportunities as K-Rod has gotten 40 out of. Assuming eight blown saves instead of three, the Angels would still lead the division.
Will Carroll has him tabbed
As a guy who’s likely to implode at any point.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739
I agree with Will Carroll
He has great Francisco Cordero potential … as do most closers. There’s also a lot of talk at HH about a very self-centered personality.
by robert_d_wilfong on Jul 21, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
What best available player doctrine?
You mean in the draft? I’m confused.
Yes, the same one
I know that it has been used in the draft. I was simply applying it here too. If that is too far of a reach, how about using the impact player through free agency doctrine, like with Gagne 2 winters ago.
I don't understand.
Best player available only makes sense in the context of a draft.
Gagne wasn’t an “impact player” acquisition. He was a “let’s hope he rediscovers some of his previous form so we can flip him at the deadline” acquisition.
The closest “doctrine” that could be applied to signing a guy like KRod is ””don’t pay out the ass for closers”.
Quote from JD himself
This isn’t me talking. These were JD’s words after the signing. In addition, we were in a totally different situation at that time then I expect this team to be at the deadline next year. Simply put, Is KRod the biggest impact player on the market this off season? I think so. Would he make the Rangers a better team? Without question.
"biggest impact player on the market"?
I doubt it.
I think this team is far more than a KRod away from going to the playoffs. CJ has been erratic and scary all year, but we aren’t 10 games out because of him.
Maybe you could argue that having KRod allows us to stick CJ in a setup role, and that saves a few games. But that is a stretch.
The Rangers win using their offense. This means that their scores have a much higher variance than a pitching-focused club. This means fewer 1 or 2 run games and more 4 or 5 run games (in both directions), lowering the utility of a closer. Low offense teams like the A’s and Dodgers need an impact closer, not the Rangers
hahahaha
God I hope The Giants sign him.
Just imagine how much fun it will be in 6 years when they look back and realize they paid $200 million to two pitchers whose arms completely fell off.
"Then you an idiot you dont expect lefties to with as much power against lefties" -blueballlefty to me
No way
Rather spend that money on Sheets in a heartbeat.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
+ a billion.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 21, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
or Sabbathia
While I don’t think that CJ is the closer of the future for us I think we should have some other internal candidates emerge like Madrigal or Thomas Diamond or even someone else.
"We live, we die, and the wheels on the bus go round and round." - Tony Romo
I really wouldn't want to spend that much money
on an entire bullpen.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
No
I don’t mind the idea paying for an elite shut-down closer, cause I think having a lights-out closer in the playoffs is a huge advantage, but it would have to be the perfect situation and it would have to be the absolute perfect closer.
This is not that perfect situation, and K-Rod is not the perfect closer due to his injury concerns.
I’d much rather us take that 15mm and put it towards signing CC or Ben Sheets.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
No
K-shod is no Rivera, and he acts like a tool out there. I know his save numbers are good but otherwise his numbers are down.
"I am not a never-nude" - Tobias Fünke
You're right, he isn't
Rivera is nearing the end of his career, while KRod is entering his prime. It’s been a season or 2 since Rivera was in his league.
huh?
Rivera – ERA 1.22 WHIP 0.68 53K 4BBI in 44IP
Rodriquez – ERA 2.25 WHIP 1.25 45K 27BBI in 44IP
"I am not a never-nude" - Tobias Fünke
Last 3 years
ERA+
Rivera: 251, 142, 337
KRod: 264, 162, 184
WHIP:
Rivera: 0.96, 1.21, 0.67
KRod: 1.10, 1.25, 1.25
Hands down? I don’t think so.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
No Way
We don’t need to spend that kind of money on a pitcher that pitches one inning on those occurrences when we have a 3 run or less lead going into the 9th.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
JD and Hicks should go all out
Sign CC, Sheets, K-Rod, resign Bradley. Those 4 should go for a combine 60M a year?
I would trade or let go Millwood, Padilla, Laird, Guardado, Byrd, Jennings, and Cat. Padilla would be an awesome #3 but his 11M salary makes the 60M easier to swallow. All those guys would free up something like 35M.
Bradley is making 5M now and I put into estimates that he would get something like 3 years at 10m a year. So you would only have to add 5M to the total.
So that means would would be able to add CC, Sheets, K-Rod, and Bradley’s extension for like 20M. That’s pretty good!!!
This is also not putting into account that you have players that get raises like MY.
Players added vs. players subtracted
CC > Millwood
Sheets > Padilla
K-Rod > Guardado – CJ taking Guardado’s spot.
Bradley = Bradley
Salty/Teag/Max > Laird
Boggs/Murphy = Byrd/Cat
Jennings is crap
That’s an awesome improvement for a 20M increase.
When I said player raises like MY
I mean the salary might go up too significant where Hicks wouldn’t want to add an additional 20M on top of it.
Impossible
Rules dictate you can’t sign more than 2 type A FA in a single season so you could only choose 2 of those 4.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Hell no...
and you’re right it is a no brainer.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
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