Eddie G and Jamey Wright off the market?

by lamron on Jul 24, 2008 1:34 PM CDT

Jayson Stark

Rangers

Unbeknownst to most of North America, only two teams in the whole sport -- the Angels and Rays -- have a better record than the Rangers over the last three months (45-34). So GM Jon Daniels says: "I don't see us unloading the farm system to get into the rental market. I don't see us holding any sort of fire sale." But that doesn't mean the Rangers don't have some interesting pieces on their shelves. Step right up and make an offer for Vicente Padilla, Kevin Millwood, Hank Blalock, Marlon Byrd, Frank Catalanotto or Gerald Laird. Daniels would listen to anything that "makes sense." And to make sense, any offer would have to upgrade this team's rotation, at least for the long haul. So why are the Rangers willing to trade Padilla, their leading winner (11-5)? No, not because of dollars. And no, not because he's an astronaut, either. Because he's as talented as any pitcher on the market. So the Rangers are telling other clubs they're willing to deal him if they can get back a young starter they can plug into their rotation by next season, if not immediately. They've had only back-burner interest so far, from a group that's believed to include the Tigers and Yankees. But in one of the least-inspiring rotation markets ever, that could easily change in the next week. Incidentally, two pitchers the Rangers don't intend to deal, despite extensive interest, are relievers Eddie Guardado and Jamey Wright.

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Why would we keep either of them? Serviceable? Yes they are. I love Eddie's demeanor but lets face it that arm is held together with chicken wire and duct tape. And the electrician? Not a bad middle reliever but he has come back to earth as of late and he gives me seizures when he comes in the game lately! And honestly does anyone but me remember that people were begging the Rangers to DFA Vinnie this offseason? Props to management for hanging on to him and now he may be at the top of someone's wish list at the trade deadline. Unbelievable. Anyone out there put any eggs in Jayson Stark basket?

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Eddie G

some of that has to do with his presence in the clubhouse…regardless, I think that report is false and JD will look to trade Guardado if offered a nice enough return.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 24, 2008 1:37 PM CDT 0 recs

Agreed

I think Eddie has been a nice presence and he has far exceeded my expectations. Man was I wrong about him, I thought he was a thin Mike Fetters. But is leadership/chemistry a good enough reason to keep someone around? I am a bit on the fence about it, I wouldn’t be sad if he stayed, unless I find out that they were offered a decent prospect for him and said “no”. Someone who will contribute however minor in 3 years is better than keeping him around… maybe… kind of a crapshoot since he wouldn’t bring a top tier prospect anyway.

by lamron on Jul 24, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up 0 recs

I think that

jd would trade his mother if he got the right package and a throw in young latin player

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 24, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up 0 recs

too late

He traded her last year for the rights to negotiate with Daisuke’s mother.

Sorry I lost the link

by lamron on Jul 24, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

He got her back

after they decided to take the Red Sox offer though

by FirebatM3 on Jul 24, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

agreed

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Jul 24, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up 0 recs

clubhouse?

I bet it would be good for the clubhouse if they traded him for someone that could help them win in the future. If they like him so much, they can resign him in the offseason.

Revenge of the Birds

by cgolden on Jul 24, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

Hank

I like this quote

Further down Stark’s page:

• Hammering Hank: Elsewhere on the third-base market, it looks as if activity is finally picking up on Texas’ Hank Blalock, now that he’s actually played five games in a row. The Twins, Giants and Dodgers are all believed to have some level of interest. And Blalock doesn’t have to be a rent-a-player. There’s a $6.2-million club option on him for next year.

But the Rangers want a decent young player - and preferably an arm - back. “This is not a giveaway deal,” said an official of one team that spoke with them. “This is not a Ray Durham situation.”

by lamron on Jul 24, 2008 1:40 PM CDT 0 recs

I love that last quote

and I love the fact that Hank is drawing so much interest.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 24, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

my favorite ranger since Juan

this is going to be really sad when he’s traded.

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 24, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

itll be tough to see happen

i just hope he gets to a team that has a good chance of success and i hope we clean out their farm system.

by Jayslick on Jul 24, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ok so if Jamey Wright is the "electrician"....

if Hank cleans out their farm system would he then be known as the “janitor” or is that Teixiera’s moniker? :oþ

by lamron on Jul 24, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

I thought Teix was

the sh*t

by bushe on Jul 24, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

JD is playing his poker hand....

The less you are looking to trade someone the more that they have to give you to let go of them…

might net us an extra prospect or a slight upgrade in a prospect.

by clinton33 on Jul 24, 2008 1:44 PM CDT 0 recs

hmm

Is that like the idea if you ignore the cute girl she’ll notice you more?

by lamron on Jul 24, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up 0 recs

the less you say...

...the more people want to know what you’re thinking.

by oc on Jul 24, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

Then try

it, oc…

;)

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jul 24, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up 0 recs

dang that was harsh rod....

by Jayslick on Jul 24, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

LOL!

Hence the wink…

by Rodney on Jul 24, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up 0 recs

JD

I can’t think of an incentive for him to tell the whole truth to the media.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 24, 2008 2:13 PM CDT 0 recs

ditto

I like his close-to-the-vestness.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 24, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

i think of this...

...time of year in baseball, like i think of the NFL during the weeks before the draft… don’t believe a word you are hearing… if a team says they are down on someone they aren’t… if a team says they really like someone they don’t… if a team says they don’t wanna move a guy… they just haven’t seen enough return yet to get them to say they do…

I blame it not on Ron Washington, but on society. Society is to blame. And Ron Washington. ~Ken Tremendous on Ron Washington sac bunting in the 11th vs LAA

by ivysafety39 on Jul 24, 2008 2:16 PM CDT 0 recs

Im just glad to see JD working the media

thats the stuff as a fan that reminds me of a savvy old vet, 2 years ago he woulda said, “no1 is untouchable” at this time of year. good to see him developing a good offspeed pitch

by Jayslick on Jul 24, 2008 2:25 PM CDT 0 recs

Wright and Guardado

This must mean that the Rangers expect either or both of these guys to reach Type B status before free agency this offseason.

Texas Rangers Analyst

by Andy Seiler on Jul 24, 2008 2:27 PM CDT 0 recs

That would make some sense

Not sure what they would have to do to reach type B, but a compensatory pick would more than likely be worth more than whatever you could get for either one in trade.

I could see either one (especially Eddie) as part of a package deal though given the demand for relief arms.

"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos

by SaltyDawg on Jul 24, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

Demand

This is what makes me think that a decent prospect may be possible for Eddie. A lefty, gritty vet is exactly what a contender needs to reach the playoffs, who cares if the groundskeepers pick up his spare parts as he leaves the mound and he can only throw 80 mph. Eddie is Drew Meyer on the mound! When my kid is old enough, I am going to sow his right arm to his body until he can throw lefty.
Just kidding I love Eddie, and I won’t sow my kid’s arm… Super glue is faster.
:o)

by lamron on Jul 24, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

shhhhhhhhhhh!

dont talk about that. they think its everyday eddie.

that might be our stategy for rebuilding.

1) sign washed up has been super reliever from the past on the cheap
2) duct tape and bailing wire him through 1/2 a season
3) sell him to some big market chump for future Latin American star 12 year old.
4) repeat process.

by Jayslick on Jul 24, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

HaHa. I wonder...

Is the corpse of Oil Can Boyd around anywhere? We can sign him and trade him to the Red Sox.

by lamron on Jul 24, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

I thought....

they did away with type B compensation.

by bdavison94 on Jul 24, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up 0 recs

Nope

You get a supplemental first round pick. The ranking you have to reach has changed, as you now have to be in the top 21 to 40 percent to achieve Type B.

Texas Rangers Analyst

by Andy Seiler on Jul 24, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

holy crap

the idea of jamey wright and eddie guardado as future sandwich1st rounders is sexy!!!

of course with our luck they’ll accept stupid arbitration.

by Jayslick on Jul 24, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

arbitration

To get compensation, you have to offer arbitration to the player. Do we really want to do that with these guys?

"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch

by RangerMad on Jul 24, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

Probably Not

I think it’s more dangerous with Guardado than with Wright. Wright’s value is slowly climbing as a good reliever, so it’s likely he pursues a more lucrative deal than arbitration on top of his $1M salary this year.

Texas Rangers Analyst

by Andy Seiler on Jul 24, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

that's why we need to trade them

Is wright a FA after this season? Does anyone have a good (mlb/ranger) team salary/contract site, that lists details like Millwoods thresholds for locking in his option yr and other such contract minutia?

by Goyogringo on Jul 24, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up 0 recs

Cot's

Here

Texas Rangers Analyst

by Andy Seiler on Jul 24, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up 0 recs

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/

bookmark it

"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch

by RangerMad on Jul 24, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up 0 recs

Thanks!

by Goyogringo on Jul 24, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

Compensation

They’re trying to narrow down the actual process here.

Texas Rangers Analyst

by Andy Seiler on Jul 24, 2008 2:36 PM CDT 0 recs

All media angling aside

Guardado has been great this year and great for the team apparently, but DEAL HIM if you get a decent offer.

Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return

by zywica on Jul 24, 2008 3:11 PM CDT 0 recs

and you would have to think they would...

what team in the race could not use another lefty set-up man?

very few.

by clinton33 on Jul 24, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

ah... so the question is

What is a good haul for Eddie?

A non-prospect filler type?
4-A Nelson Cruz-er?
Gambling on a fringey prospect ala Gabbard/Mendoza
Couple of low A guys with funny names?
A bucket of chicken for Millwood? And an ice cream with NO sprinkles… God help you if I find a sprinkle!

by lamron on Jul 24, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up 0 recs