Saturday morning stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 26, 2008 8:35 AM CDT
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Your 2nd place Texas Rangers, at least for now. We could be back in third place by 6 p.m. tonight, but I'm going to enjoy being in 2nd place while it lasts.
Evan Grant points out that the Rangers haven't finished above third place since 1999, making finishing in second this year a more meaningful goal than it otherwise might be. I do think that part of what has the Rangers reluctant to just deal everyone -- and particularly meaningful bullpen arms like Eddie Guardado and Jamey Wright -- is that they want to finish the season strong, try to end up with 85 wins (if not more) and a second place finish, to give them something solid to build on for next year.
Plus, from the business side, a second place finish and 85 wins is going to mean more tickets sold in 2009 than a third place finish and 78 wins would.
Jeff Wilson says the Rangers fed off of Vicente Padilla's strong performance after a rough third inning. This is one of those games where Padilla pitched better than the line indicates...that five run third inning included an infield single that should have been an error, and a couple of other bloop hits. The A's should have scored just a run, maybe two, in that inning.
On the injury front...Gerald Laird will be back today, and is supposed to start tomorrow. However, Kevin Millwood is apparently going back on the d.l. with his groin problem, and German Duran is having to have thumb surgery that will cost him 6-8 weeks.
Evan Grant quotes Ron Washington as saying that Laird will be the starting catcher when he returns. That doesn't bode well for Jarrod Saltalamacchia, who didn't exactly seize the opportunity when Laird went down.
Of course, Laird may not be here much longer...the Reds had a scout at Friday's game in Salt Lake City to watch Laird, and T.R. Sullivan says the Reds "covet" Laird. Sullivan says at least 20 teams have called the Rangers about one of their 4 major league ready catchers, and that the Mets have some interest in Marlon Byrd and Nelson Cruz.
Hank Blalock has drawn some interest from the Twins, Dodgers and Giants, although the Twins apparently would prefer a righty-hitting third baseman. Adrian Beltre is mentioned, but Blalock is much cheaper than Beltre, which would seem to be a factor for a team like the Twins.
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Mets
The Mets really emptied their farm system in the Santana deal. I know Byrd and/or Cruz won’t bring much back, but I wonder how much the Mets have left to trade.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 26, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They have more than enough for those guys.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 26, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Level
At which level(s) do they have players that would be a reasonable return?
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 26, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For those guys
You can take a low level high ceiling guy. The only guys that would warrant ML ready talent are Bradley, Blalock, Guardado and our veteran pitchers if we trade one of them.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
spoken in a hushed tone.....
“at what level?”
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Jul 26, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've talked about them a bit
recently, but they have a few hitters in AA (though one of them has gotten some time in the majors) in Evans, Carp and Murphy who are well worth the role player types we’d be dealing. Murphy is the one who might have a little positional value for us, so he’d be the one I’d have the most interest in. Then lower down they have some upside guys, like Wilmer Flores (in particular) and Jefry Marte. Flores would be a coup, along the lines of picking up Beltre, although with more skill and less pure talent probably. Not much pitching, and they probably wouldn’t trade you worthwhile pitching in that sort of deal anyway.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 26, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cruz
if all we are going to get for him is a bag of balls, I’d really rather call him up and give him the rest of the season for one more ML audition.
The season he has put together is Bonds-esque, at the AAA level. I’m starting to believe that he might have figured the strike zone out.
Byrd, on the other hand, I’d just as soon give away.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
by tricer on Jul 26, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd just as soon blow him away
that’s how Robert Earl Keen feels.
by tyd3311 on Jul 26, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I’ll take a box of balls and a free roster spot for Cruz to get playing time down the stretch. If I have to watch one more of his at bats with runners on late in a game, I’m going to puke. It is a guaranteed first pitch jam job or softly hit out.
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by badradiorules on Jul 26, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see that big a difference
Struck out in 21.9% of his PAs in AAA in 2006-07, and walked in 10.3%.
Struck out in 20.6% of his PAs this year, and walked in 14%.
Yeah, the walk rate is up a little bit, but still…
I don’t see, at the end of the day, what you really do with him. Let’s say he comes up and hits .275/.350/.450 in 100 PAs, about half and half between LHPs and RHPs.
What do you do with him next year? Make him your 4th outfielder? He can’t really play CF. Have him platoon with Murphy? Make him your starting RF’er?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 26, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems like a significant improvement
in IsoP and walk rate to me.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
by tricer on Jul 26, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't
A differential of 6 a helluva lot better than a differential of 12 ? At least I’d think so.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Jul 26, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
k/bb ratio
Yeah, he has improved from a 2.13 last season to a 1.47 this season, a 31% improvement.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
by tricer on Jul 26, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AdMo and I are beating the same drum on Cruz
I say trade him for a low minor prospect and be done with it already. Was it TR that said they were fishing for a major league ready guy? Please. I would rather have Bradley on the roster playing the OF when he can and murphy and boggs on the team.
by Goyogringo on Jul 26, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2004 Flashbacks
I remember when everyone got all excited about finishing in 3rd place only a few games out and how that would carry over to 2005. Especially with the infusion of young guys like Teixeira, Blalock, Mench, Nix and Francisco. Plus, we had the 2 veteran guys at the top of the rotation to stabilize everything for the next wave of young pitchers like Dominguez, Rodriguez, and Young.
Good times…
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by DaheelzCM on Jul 26, 2008 9:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
value...
...what prospect would we have to package with laird to get homer bailey from the reds?
and what kinda return could we get from/for:
hank to minnesota
byrd/cruz to nym
I blame it not on Ron Washington, but on society. Society is to blame. And Ron Washington. ~Ken Tremendous on Ron Washington sac bunting in the 11th vs LAA
by ivysafety39 on Jul 26, 2008 9:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JMJ or Borbon
Teamed with Laird would probably get you Homer, though I think Laird straight up for Daryl Thompson and a B prospect would be more likely to happen.
by sggut95 on Jul 26, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought they were going to change that to an error..
lewin said something about it…
no error raises padilla’s era 1/3 a run.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 26, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jaramillo out for a while
and Boulanger and Narron taking over in his stead. I think Boulanger is a smart guy, and he’s obviously done some good work with the prospects. Glad he’s getting this opportunity to work with, well, actually, he’s working with some of the same guys he tutored in the minors with so many rookies up.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Jul 26, 2008 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A bit misleading
Adam said:
Sullivan says at least 20 teams have called the Rangers about one of their 4 major league ready catchers
Actually the comment made (per TR) was:
The Yankees are looking for a catcher and have asked about both Laird and Saltalamacchia. The Rangers have their eyes on some of the Yankees young pitchers in the Minors, including right-hander Daniel McCutchen. The Reds also covet Laird, but aren’t willing to give up their top young Minor League pitchers. At least 20 teams have asked about at least one of the four Rangers catchers.
Wonder which comment is true? If we have 20 teams asking about just one of our catchers I think its a sure thing he (whoever it is) will be gone.
by 3bagbeast on Jul 26, 2008 10:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's probably
parsing words just a bit too much.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Jul 26, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think so
20 teams asking about 1 catcher is alot different than 20 teams asking about all 4 catchers, no? Anyway reporters are good at parsing words.
by 3bagbeast on Jul 26, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there is a middle ground
that was intended, between those two statements…
20 teams have been calling and asking about at least 1 of the 4 catchers, with different teams expressing interest in different catchers.
Not that they’re all calling and asking about only Laird, or that they’re calling and asking about all 4.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
by tdi1985 on Jul 26, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
I thought that was clear. Maybe not.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 26, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess his complaint
is that you didn’t use the phrase “at least” in front of “one of their 4”
but yeah, that is definitely parsing words, it’s not like the way you phrased it was disingenuous or criminal
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
by tdi1985 on Jul 26, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was'nt meant
to sound like an accusation towards Adam guys. Chill. I was just curious as to what was going on.
by 3bagbeast on Jul 26, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joba Chamberlian is now my new favorite non-ranger.
Eff you Youkilis.
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 26, 2008 10:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i hate youk
not singlehandedly responsible for a 1-0 game last night taking over 3 hours, but he is the leading contributor – and complains that people want him to take less than 70 seconds between pitches. heard him on the radio arguing his case. what an a-hole.
by sam in so cal on Jul 26, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Youkilis
My sister told me about going to his brother’s wedding, where her friend was the bride, and some a-hole who played pro baseball got up for the toast and started talking about winning the World Series.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 26, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have not heard...
...many good things about Youkilis off the field…
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 26, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his stuff is nasty
there’s an ace for you. ESPN slowed down a bunch of his pitches last night and the spin and action on those things was just evil. The hitters looked like grade-schoolers.
by Goyogringo on Jul 26, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone go dig up...
...the, “Joba isn’t enough for Salty” threads from this spring…
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 26, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully, when the rangers' minors is
deep at all levels next year, they can take a chance on some injured studs in the top three rounds like Boston and the Yankees seem to do every year. Wasn’t Joba one of those? Injured and fell in the draft? Hunter and Scheppers were those guys this yearr.
by Goyogringo on Jul 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the knock on Joba going into the draft
were weight and health concerns. And it seems like he was one of those guys whose stuff really improved in professional ball. I don’t remember him “falling” in the draft, I don’t think he was ever really regarded as early first round talent.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
by tricer on Jul 26, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tv Coverage
why is it that every year the rangers have at least one game (always in oakland) with no tv coverage.
why must the a’s refuse to move the game to a slot that is outside of fox’s domain
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 26, 2008 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
speaking of which
i cant remember, but does anyone remember if we get highlight video later?
obviously there isnt a full production going on, but it wouldnt be that hard to run a couple cameras so we can see anything particularly good later…
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 26, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the whole thing is weird.
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 26, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, from the business side, a second place finish and 85 wins is going to mean more tickets sold in 2009 than a third place finish and 78 wins would.
if by that you mean allowing the team to raise ticket prices i agree
by sam in so cal on Jul 26, 2008 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Reds
If they want Laird…..its going to cost them Homer Bailey. I am willing to package a few minor leaguers to make it happen….but it will not be anyone signifigant.
Matt Maloney is now there top pitching prospect still in the minors, and he is a Kason gabbard starting kit…..at best a 4th or 5th starter.
I would be interested in Drew Stubbs, but we already have Juilo Borbon in AA and CF is really not a need at this point.
by clinton33 on Jul 26, 2008 10:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Homer
So Laird, Arias, and low level arm for Bailey?
by tyd3311 on Jul 26, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they really covet Laird
I would try a Laird, Arias for Bailey first.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
c'mon guys
There is no freaking way that any package with Laird as the centerpiece is going to land Homer Bailey. Not going to happen, not even going to be discussed.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
by tricer on Jul 26, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then....
their is nobody in the reds system that excites me…
so they don’t get laird.
by clinton33 on Jul 26, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have the prospects
to get a deal done.
The question will be whether we can agree on who to give up.
by tyd3311 on Jul 26, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they "covet" Laird
The we are the ones in the position of strength here. We shouldn’t have to pile on prospects to get Bailey especially with the way their farm system is. If they truly covet Laird and want him bad enough they will give up Homer in a one for one swap. Otherwaise they can go after the Miguel Olivos and Rod Barajas’ of this world
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then they don't get him
Whats so hard to understand about that. We don’t have to add on prospects to get Bailey. We aren’t the ones “coveting” him. Its simple supply and demand. They want one fo our catchers so we raise the price to their top pitching prospect. They don’t want to pay we keep and they can eithet go to an inferior catcher or relent and pony up Bailey.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why
I don’t think you understand how things work. We don’t have to meet their demands for Bailey for them to get Laird. They have to meet our demands for Laird to get him. Otherwise they can go ahead with their Paul Bakos or go get Miguel Olivo or Rod Barajas. But Laird is arguably the best catcher on the market, under control for two more seasons, and that is gonna cost them.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
I think you seriously overvalue Bailey. He hasn’t exactly lived up to his top billing.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand
If Bailey is as good as some people seem to think, you don’t give a take it or leave it offer of GERALD LAIRD, thats laughable. Im not saying you dump a bunch of prospects at them either. But if they do “covet” OMFT, then that’s a big plus and a good start to a deal..
I dont overvalue Homer, but i guess a lot of knowledgeable baseball people do.
by tyd3311 on Jul 26, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
The Reds are down on him right now.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
that’s the only reason we can even come close to entertaining a deal involving him and OMFT.
But not down enough to do a one for one. That’s ridiculous.
by tyd3311 on Jul 26, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that
It would have to be Laird + some but I don’t think much more.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait
till Connor gets a hold of him…..
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Jul 26, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hannibal Lecter says...
“What need does he serve by killing? He covets!”
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 26, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does he covet,
Clarice? Those lines, and the one about the fava beans always made me chuckle for some reason.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Jul 26, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and a nice glass of Chianti
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
by tricer on Jul 26, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daryl Thompson
is more highly regarded than Maloney. I’d take him for Laird if his arm is okay.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 26, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaking: Yankees-Pirates Deal Reconfigured
By Alejandro Leal [July 26 at 10:59am CST]The LoHud Yankees Blog reports the Xavier Nady, Damaso Marte deal has been reconfigured:
The Yankees are sending RHP Dan McCutchen, RHP Jeff Karstens, OF Jose Tabata and RHP Ross Ohlendorf to Pittsburgh for Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte.LHP Phil Coke and RHP George Kontos are not in the deal.
by tyd3311 on Jul 26, 2008 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Casey Blake to the Dodgers per ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3506150
Believed to be for Class A catcher Carlos Santana and AAA RH Jon Meloan
After the show I want Greg Oden to tuck us both in and tell us stories about the old days. - Will Ferrell
by JukeboxJoe on Jul 26, 2008 11:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what the hell is going on??
JD needs to figure out we’re not in this thing and do something. Meloan and Helium? WE should have been in on that with Blalock…
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 26, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know
Maybe, just maybe, the Dodgers didn’t really want Hank. I love how people think it only takes one side to make the trade.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they did
you have no idea as well…
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 26, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
But why is your first instinct to think our GM was sitting on his hands and didn’t have any contact with them. Do you honestly think we haven’t put feelers out there to just about every other team to see what they may or may not want?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
Sometimes teams just don’t want what you have.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
LA calls Texas about a player they are interested in because they don’t want him.
Right.
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 26, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
Maybe we asked for too much. Thats great in my book. Why should we just give Hank away? He has a very reasonable club option for next year. He isn’t blocking any top young prospect. And he himself isn’t an aging veteran. Hes not a guy we have to trade because he has no future with this team. Just like with Laird I think we could be just as good in the next few years with them than going with younger players.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who said we should 'just give Hank away'?
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 26, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That trade is just giving him away in my book
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Thats an adequate haul for Blake, a free agent after the season. Hank’s got a reasonable option for next year.
After the show I want Greg Oden to tuck us both in and tell us stories about the old days. - Will Ferrell
by JukeboxJoe on Jul 26, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
Maybe they liked one player better than the other one. So you have to have a back up if one trade doesn’t go through. Plan A and Plan B. Or sometimes you can like a player but there is still no match is that better for you?
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it not possible....
That everyone intrested in Hank thinks they can get him cheap because of the injuries?
They think we are just goinng to sell low on him….thats why they have interest, however when they talk to JD….and he explains that Blalock will not just be given to them, their interest probably goes luke warm.
by clinton33 on Jul 26, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Cannot Imagine...
...that a team wouldn’t want an under-performing third baseman who’s injured more than half the time. People talk about his contract having a “reasonable option” for next year. What is reasonable for that guy? If he doesn’t make it onto the field he has no value at all. I mean, it’s been so long since he’s played a full year nobody even knows what he’s got even when healthy. With regular playing time would he turn back into a hacker? Look at the shift they put on him. Is he nothing more than a dead pull hitter now? Or is he better than that?
There may be some teams interested in getting him, but they’re not going to give up a lot for him. People have to look at it from their point of view.
by Black Francis on Jul 26, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, this is just some conjecture on my part, but I have a thought...
Is there a problem with the Rangers both needing a near ML-ready, serviceable third baseman AND looking to unload Blalock? Doesn’t that hurt his value pretty considerably?
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
by tdi1985 on Jul 26, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think not if
Michael Young is our long term solution at 3rd base.
by tyd3311 on Jul 26, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we are asking for a 3B.
Blalock would be delt….then Vazquez would take over for the rest of the year.
by clinton33 on Jul 26, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock
If the organizations long term plan is in fcat to move Young to 3B when Andrus is ready most likely in 2010 then Hank is the perfect fit and we don’t need to move him. If we are overwhelmed then fine but that would require a team wanting Blalock and giving up more than he is worth in my opinion. Hank is still young and when healthy is a very nice guy to have in the middle of the lineup. He is under contract at a very reasonable price for next year and there is no one currently in the organization I would want to put at 3B for the full season next year. To me Hank is worth the risk to keep for next year barring a team overwhelming us with an offer.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Move him to Twins
I think the Twins would be a good fit for a Blalock trade. They might give up a Tyler Robertson (LHP) or Anthony Swarzak (RHP) for him, and a couple lower level prospects for him
by sggut95 on Jul 26, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be acceptable
Robertson and a lower level high ceiling prospect would be suffice. Robertson could immediately step into Frisco which is the lowest level I would accept for a prospect for Hank.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not at all opposed to keeping Hank
if the Rangers don’t get value for him. I think his last 2 injuries have been freakish syndrome kinda things, unlikely to repeat or be chronic issues, like a back, knee or shoulder. He’s no Arias (or McCarthy or Gabbard or Millwood….)
by Goyogringo on Jul 26, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
he’s the best 3rd baseman on our roster, by far. With no one waiting in the wings I don’t understand the urgency to rush him out the door.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Jul 26, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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