Trade odds
I normally would wait until the beginning of the week to do a post like this, rather than put it up on the weekend, but zywica is going to be blogging Monday and Tuesday while I make a quick jaunt to D/FW to watch a couple of Ranger games, and besides, moves are going on this weekend, which could moot this if I wait too much longer.
So...after the jump, the Rangers who seem most likely to be dealt between now and season's end, and the percentage chance that I think they have of being moved.

Frank Catalanotto -- 75%
I think Cat is gone, with the only question being where he goes, and whether the Rangers end up paying some of his deal in an effort to get a decent prospect back. The Rangers suddenly find themselves flush with DH/COF/1B options, particularly lefty-hitting choices, which makes Cat superfluous.
But he's a guy who would seem to still have value for a team looking for decent bench bat, or a platoon 1B or DH. He'd seem to be an ideal option for the Mets, who need some depth at 1B and LF.
Gerald Laird -- 45%
I would have thought that this would have been lower a week or two ago -- I didn't think that there would be enough time for Laird to get healthy before the trade deadline for a deal to be done. But the Reds are reportedly still high on him, and the Yankees supposedly are interested (with Jorge Posada looking done for the season, and possibly unable to catch full time ever again).
Daniel McCutchen from the Yanks seemed like a reasonable possibility, until he got included in the Nady/Marte trade. And with New York also picking up Jarrod Washburn from the M's (reportedly), they may feel like they've done what they need to do before the deadline. But the Rangers need to do something about the logjam of catchers -- realistically, they need to move two of them before this time next year -- and now would seem to be the time to strike on one of my favorites.
Jarrod Saltalamacchia -- 10%
Personally, I think that, long-term, the ideal scenario for the Rangers would be to go with a Teagarden/Ramirez combo behind the plate, with Teagarden catching the majority of the time and Ramirez getting significant time at DH while backing up Teagarden. That would also allow Josh Hamilton and Milton Bradley to get some DH ABs, as well (assuming Bradley is brought back).
That also means Laird and Salty would be the odd men out. But Salty is also a guy who could bring a significant return...remember, there was some thought last year that Salty alone could be fair value for Mark Teixeira, and the BoSox and Yanks both have supposedly had interest in him.
I think he's more likely to get moved over the offseason, when he could be packaged with some other pieces to try to land that much-coveted top-of-the-rotation starter under team control for some time that the Rangers have been seeking. And moving him now is selling low, given how he has struggled this year.
But it is certainly possible that he could end up moving at the break, particularly if the Yanks feel they'd rather land him as a long-term solution behind the plate than get someone like Rod Barajas or Miguel Olivo (or Laird), or if the BoSox feel he's a quality successor for Varitek and they want to keep him out of New York's hands.
Eddie Guardado and Jamey Wright -- 10% each
Looking at this from an unemotional standpoint, these two would seem to be prime pieces to be moved...they are vets, free agents after the season, and relievers seem to bring a premium at the deadline.
However...the bullpen is already a weakness on this team, and moving either of these guys is going to make it that much weaker. The Rangers clearly want to try to close strong, want to finish no worse than second and with a winning record, both to build momentum internally and help build interest among the fans to help attendance next season.
Plus, I think the Rangers would like to bring these guys back next year, and see them as possibly being at least Type B free agents next year. So if worse comes to worse, they could offer arbitration at season's end, and either get them back on one year deals for 2009, or get a compensatory pick.
If a team offers a Gagne-type package -- if a team even offers the equivalent of Engel Beltre -- I think Daniels would bite the bullet and pull the trigger. But I don't think you'll see one of these guys moved for a George Kontos or a Chad Reineke.
Hank Blalock -- 30%
I've gone back and forth on what is going to happen with Blalock. I think he is someone who, like Laird, the Rangers might hang on to past July 31, then try to sneak through waivers and move in mid-August. But I also think he's someone whose injury history, questionable defense at third base, and erratic offense lowers what teams are willing to give up for him right now. I wouldn't be surprised if the Rangers would have been willing to take Jonathan Meloan and Carlos Santana -- what the Dodgers gave up to get Casey Blake -- if that package had been offered for Blalock. But it may very well be the Dodgers valued Blake above Blalock.
With the Dodgers now having added Blake and presumably no longer interested in Blalock, that leaves the Giants and Twins as the two teams still standing that were i.d.'d as interested in Blalock. And someone could end up coming out of left field and make an offer. I'd set the percentage at about 15% if it we were saying the chances of Blalock getting moved before August 1...I think he has a
But I think it is more likely, at this point, that Blalock finishes the year as the Rangers' third baseman, and the team goes into the offseason with a decision to make on his option, and a decision to make (if they do exercise the option) on whether to stick with him at third base and live with a terrible defensive left side of the infield, or to deal him and look elsewhere for a third base solution.
Milton Bradley -- 2%
I think the Rangers would have to be blown away to move Bradley, and I don't think there is a team out there to give up a big package to get him. I think the Rangers are more likely to sign him to an extension before season's end than to trade him.
Nelson Cruz -- 80%
My gut feeling? The Rangers are ready to move on with other options. They'll move Cruz, be it now or in August, for what they can get, and take their chances with the other outfield options they have.
Marlon Byrd -- 10%
Popular guy in the clubhouse. No compelling need to move him. Not too many teams out there who would give up something of value for him. So he likely stays in Texas.
Kevin Millwood -- 0%
The groin injury means he's going on the d.l., and no contender is going to give up anything of value for him come August, when he's activated, even assuming he clears waivers. The Rangers will hope he does a better job of staying healthy next year, and will be thankful that his 2010 contract year can be voided if he doesn't throw 180 innings in 2009.
Vicente Padilla -- 10%
This is probably the hardest for me to gauge. Starting pitchers have a lot of value at the deadline, and Padilla has a decent ERA and has stayed healthy this season, for the most part. And his contract isn't onerous, particularly given that there's an option for 2010.
But. Padilla's reputation, like Bradley's, hurts him around the league. Jon Daniels' asking price for Padilla is supposedly high. And the Yankees, who seemed the best fit, are apparently adding Jarrod Washburn.
Plus, with Millwood going on the d.l., the rotation currently consists of Padilla, Feldman, Hurley, Mendoza, and Harrison. If you deal Padilla now, who replaces him in the rotation? If you don't get an arm that is ready to step into the rotation immediately, you are looking at putting Dustin Nippert in there, I guess. Or Elizardo Ramirez. Or you bite the bullet on the 40 man consequences and bring up Tommy Hunter.
I think, just from a morale standpoint, and to continue with the goal of finishing strong, dealing Padilla is going to require getting at least a decent young starting pitcher back, plus some other significant parts. And I just don't see that happening.
With a healthy Millwood, Padilla is probably more expendable. Right now, though, he's the anchor of the rotation.
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Keep Padilla
Someone has to start games around here.
I was thinking they could go ahead and put Rupe into the rotation as a 5th/6th starter to take the pressure off Feldman. Maybe start Feldman in the 5th spot once, and then Rupe the next time the spot comes open or something like that. I just don’t want Feldman’s long term health to be risked too much. I don’t know, kind of grasping for straws there.
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by t ball on
Jul 26, 2008 9:39 PM CDT
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Starters
“Keep Padilla” is a good start to the rest of the year. He’s the only veteran we have that we can trot out there every 5th start. The rest are rookies or 1st year starters (Feldman the Great).
We don’t need Oswalt. Couldn’t get him, anyway. Drayton don’t trade his favorites under any circumstances. But, even if we could, he’s on the back side of his career and that slope looks pretty steep.
We don’t need Sabathia. He’s too big. The Texas Heat would cook his beefy carcass. And, once he has his “big payday”, where’s the incentive. He just gets fatter and his abilities take a sharp dive downward. CHoP’d could well look like a Good Deal if we had this guy on our roster at the $$$s it’d take to get him.
We don’t need Eaton… er, Millwood… er, McCarthy… no, wait… SHEETS! That’s the one. Our DL is full, thank you.
I like the idea of Bedard coming to Texas. He’d probably LOVE to get out of that horrible clubhouse in Seattle and he could likely be had for Cruz and Blalock with Hurley or Harrison.
I also like the idea of All-Day Halliday. Not only would he eat innings, he would also provide Ace+ Leadership and stability at the top of our rotation. But, it’d take Crush Davis and Feliz just to start the conversation and we don’t really have a viable replacement at 1B unless we do move Hammer over there. I don’t see that one happening, but, ya never know.
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by eglooney on
Jul 28, 2008 5:44 PM CDT
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how about max ramirez
As I was saying in the gameday thread, with his value way up, apparently bad impressions defensively, 1b now locked up, bradley possibly sticking around and smoak on the horizon, and so many other catchers around.. it seems like the rangers might consider moving him.
Anyway, I think cat is gone for sure (for very little of course), and that theres 90% chance at least one of the 4 catchers is traded, and maybe… 5% chance 2 of them are traded. teagarden is the only one i think is safe.
A couple months ago I wanted to trade one of padilla and millwood.. but with millwood falling off a cliff, it seems like we almost have to keep padilla just to have someone to throw out there. and milwood of course is both injured and sucky lately.
I wish we’d trade byrd and give cruz one last chance, but id agree byrd is likely to stay and cruz is likely to go.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on
Jul 26, 2008 9:42 PM CDT
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I agree...
I would like to trade Byrd and see if Cruz finally has it together.
Imagine if he hit homeruns up here in the bigs as much as he has down there, along with the homerun power of Hamilton, Bradley, Davis, Blalock, etc…..... WOW!! Homerun Derby….....every game!!
i like baseball too
by bspate on
Jul 27, 2008 12:00 PM CDT
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cat
might not get moved until August too. teams will probably let the dust settle and see what is out there. he could be several teams fall back option. he will definitely clear waivers too.
i wouldn’t trade Padilla. i don’t think you get what his value truly is and
HE ACTUALLY LIKES PITCHING HERE you gotta keep those guys around.
by mo on
Jul 26, 2008 9:52 PM CDT
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Thief:
“Personally, I think that, long-term, the ideal scenario for the Rangers would be to go with a Teagarden/Ramirez combo behind the plate, with Teagarden catching the majority of the time and Ramirez getting significant time at DH while backing up Teagarden. That would also allow Josh Hamilton and Milton Bradley to get some DH ABs, as well (assuming Bradley is brought back).”
http://www.lonestarball.com/2008/7/21/575748/catching-situation-for-nex#7522550
by rothe on
Jul 26, 2008 9:58 PM CDT
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Would you be fine with Meloan and Santana for Blalock?
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on
Jul 26, 2008 10:08 PM CDT
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Only if they would have
thrown in Javy Guerra..
former Denton Ryan great.
by tyd3311 on
Jul 26, 2008 10:25 PM CDT
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Ha!
I’ve been rooting for old Javy as a fellow Dentonian, but he’s been putrid this year.
We could prolly have him for cash considerations right now.
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by thedirkatron on
Jul 26, 2008 10:53 PM CDT
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I think the odds that OMFT...
is dealt has gone from 10% a week ago to about 80% now. I think JD will wait ‘til right before the deadline though to deal him to try and put pressure on the Yanks to include a better prospect for him. If they won’t then he will settle for what another team like the Reds will give up for him.
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by slc ranger on
Jul 26, 2008 10:20 PM CDT
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I want to keep Padilla
I think he will be a crucial piece of the 2009 rotation.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Jul 26, 2008 10:20 PM CDT
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Yes
He should be good,
Pitching for another contract.
by tyd3311 on
Jul 26, 2008 10:26 PM CDT
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if he pitches well enough to get a nice contract
wont we just pick up his option?
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on
Jul 26, 2008 10:30 PM CDT
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I didn't think
he had an option…
I may be wrong
But i thought it was just 3 year $33 mil.
by tyd3311 on
Jul 26, 2008 10:34 PM CDT
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There's a 2010 option
I mentioned it in the post.
by Adam J. Morris on
Jul 26, 2008 10:36 PM CDT
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I am wrong
$10 mil club option for 2010, my bad
Stilll, no guarantees.
by tyd3311 on
Jul 26, 2008 10:37 PM CDT
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Padilla
As has been said below, for 2009 they can’t count on anything more than fifth starter-like performance from Kevin Millwood. With a lineup like they have and a bunch of talented young pitchers it’s possible they surprise next year. But probably not if they have to fill their top four rotation slots with kids.
If they moved Padilla they’d have to go shopping for some kind of veteran, and who would they get without having to pay and assload of money on a four year deal? Guys who can put up a ~4.00 ERA in Arlington Cosmodrome don’t grow on trees. Unless they’re just overwhelmed with an offer they should hang onto him.
by Black Francis on
Jul 27, 2008 10:49 AM CDT
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Bradley
He just doesn’t seem like a RF anymore.
If the team believes in Max, Bradley’s expendable.
JD can get powermad, demanding big prospect packages for the best bat available (on a great contract), or he can find a good package and get something done.
Bradley has more value to another team than this one. Unless the Rangers want to slowly break in Max, he’s the next in line for the DH role, and he’s got momentum.
The only other thing to say is maybe Bradley’s too big a part of this team’s momentum to deal him, he’s adding that many wins. I can see that.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on
Jul 26, 2008 10:37 PM CDT
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i dont think bradley has ever been less than a year removed from leg problems.
Ive lost interest in what we do with him. If we trade him I assume its because we got a good offer. If we dont, the clubhouse stays happy, he helps us try to finish respectably. If we dont and we sign him… keep him mostly at DH and he probably plays enough to help the team.
so.. whatever happens, im ok. as long as we dont trade him for little return or sign him to a ridiculous contract.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on
Jul 26, 2008 10:41 PM CDT
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reply to tyd obviously.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on
Jul 26, 2008 10:42 PM CDT
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Guardado
I think you take the best offer for this guy due to his age and injury history and count your lucky stars. I don’t want to have to count on him next year, have him get hurt, and then see the bullpen implode.
by Goyogringo on
Jul 26, 2008 10:47 PM CDT
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Cardinals
Ryan Franklin blew another save tonight…
by tyd3311 on
Jul 26, 2008 10:50 PM CDT
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I think we might have quite a few bullpen options next year
Murray, Mathis, Madrigal, Wright, FranFran, Wilson, Laughter, B. Jones, Wright, Rupe, Kometani, Garr (maybe hunter, mendoza)...I feel pretty good about that group as long as Wilson is not the closer.
So that means IMO you trade for one or sign one in FA before spring training. I don’t like the idea of having a bunch of rookies and Wilson having a closer competition next spring and then trading the farm for one during the ASB once that turns ugly.
by Goyogringo on
Jul 26, 2008 11:08 PM CDT
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Padilla
With Millwood doing his best 5th starter impersonation the last 2 years, you simply can’t part with Padilla.
by Goyogringo on
Jul 26, 2008 10:48 PM CDT
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Catchers
I am really interested to see how the Ranger’s have ranked these guys in relation to one another: all of the top catchers in the system ready at the same time. I think it is the most important decision they have to make in laying down a good foundation for next year, that is, choosing the 2 who profile best for this team the next 5 years, and the 2 who you can get the most from now or during the winter. I think you should def. wait to trade the younder catchers until the winter meetings/spring as top roation starters are generally obtained with top prospects rather than middling major leaguers.
I’m with AdMo – I like TG and Max as long as Bradley is signed so that they can rotate the the DH spot between the two of them. I do wonder if Wash goes for a plan where our backup catcher isn’t a “traditional” 30+ vet, and both catchers on the roster are rookies.
by Goyogringo on
Jul 26, 2008 10:54 PM CDT
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Ramirez
the only reports that I saw claiming Max was a poor backstop came from this here blog; Wash’s public comments were effusive
by Goyogringo on
Jul 26, 2008 11:01 PM CDT
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Same here
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on
Jul 27, 2008 3:39 PM CDT
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from will carrol
* The Rangers will get active this weekend or at least Jon Daniels’ phone will get more active. The Rangers appear to be at the center of the trade market again, though in a much different way than last season. Gerald Laird is coveted by several teams and could bring a decent return, while some of their pitching would immediately become best available if they are in fact made available.
Come on JD, it’s the weekend, get active!
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by Longhorn on
Jul 26, 2008 11:08 PM CDT
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Make it happen babe
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Jul 26, 2008 11:12 PM CDT
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I think JD
has to be givin’ credit for not selling low on Gerald Laird..
If he does end up being traded, I’d like to see the offers they received/turned down in the offseason to what they get now.
by tyd3311 on
Jul 26, 2008 11:12 PM CDT
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Yep
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on
Jul 27, 2008 3:40 PM CDT
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Good assessment of what could happen.
The problem i see is the supposed thinking of JD in holding on to Wright and Guardado. Maybe they win a couple more games if they hold on to them, but we’re still two good starters away from being a great team. Unless they can sign a Sheets or Sabathia this off-season or someone of equal value next year (not likely) we’re not going to have the pitching to put us over the top. If Wright and Guardado are our best assets, then we need to try to score another Neftali Feliz with them.
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by jcAustin on
Jul 26, 2008 11:23 PM CDT
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Rangers highlights
supposedly next on BBTN.
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by Longhorn on
Jul 26, 2008 11:36 PM CDT
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Trade Deadline Question
Would you load up at the deadline and try to get a Cain instead of trying to wait til the offseason? Especially if it is for Cain since the Giants aren’t necessarily in a rebuilding mode considering the NL West strives for mediocrity every year. They may be more interested in a package that doesn’t include our lower minors phenoms. Blalock, Arias, Cruz and CJ Wilson might be more appealing to a team like that since they could plug all 4 of those guys into their lineup. It might take more than that, but a trade like that helps them since they are all under team control at affordable rates but doesn’t hurt us the way having to put a package of prospects together to get a Bedard, Halladay, Oswalt, etc would in the offseason.
by I dont believe what I just saw on
Jul 27, 2008 12:01 AM CDT
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Cain.
Sabean has publicly stated that Lincecum, Cain and Sanchez (although him to a lesser extent I imagine) are untouchable. If we were to get Cain, we’d have to blow them away with a package. I highly doubt Blalock, Arias, Cruz and CJ gets it done.
There are conflicting reports regarding Halladay’s availability, but I’d be shocked if they traded him unless, again, they get an absolutely ridiculous package in return. Plus, adding one dude like Halladay will not necessarily make us a playoff team.
Bedard? Do. Not. Want.
Oswalt? Definitely. Do. Not. Want.
by LiamP on
Jul 27, 2008 12:31 AM CDT
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Cain
I was talking theory more than anything. I want no part of Oswalt or Bedard either. Because of age, I’d only be interested in Halladay if we signed a Sheets or Sabathia to go along with him. I was basically mentioning top of the rotation pitchers that are probably going to be moved in the offseason. Blalock, Arias, Cruz and CJ is light for Cain. Some combination of Andrus, Borbon, Mayberry etc would have to be included. My thought process is that the Giants would be less interested in waiting 3 years for a Main or Beavan than they would be in aquiring young position players they can control than aquiring lower level minor leaguers. We have upper level position prospects that could help them now and for the next several years that wouldn’t necessarily hurt us in the long run. They could lose Cain and it wouldn’t be crushing to their rotation. Of all the young potential front of the rotation arms, he seems like the one that would match up best with what the Rangers have to offer.
by I dont believe what I just saw on
Jul 27, 2008 12:59 AM CDT
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Totally misread that part of your post.
My bad. Thought you wanted to put something together for Bedard, Halladay or Oswalt.
As incompetent as Brian Sabean is, I really doubt those players have much appeal to him. Blalock perhaps since they’ve been rumored to be a potential suitor, but Arias is a SS who doesn’t have the arm to play the position anymore, Cruz is a 28 year old who’s been Jesus in AAA but who has never lived up to his potential, and CJ is a reliever with a 5+ ERA. That’s a package of spare parts. I don’t see why they’d trade a guy who doesn’t turn 24 until October who right now is already a #2 pitcher with ace type stuff for that.
The thing about trading for young stud pitchers is, if it does happen (how often do you see teams give up on guys like Cain) you’re going to have to give up one (or more) of Davis, Feliz or Andrus, plus others. You can’t just throw a package of guys at them and assume that, because it fills areas of need, they’ll take it.
by LiamP on
Jul 27, 2008 1:08 AM CDT
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No dice on all counts
Cain is not going anywhere. For anyone. Sanchez can be got, maybe even Bumgardner.
I don’t see any chance of Sabathia wanting to sign with the Rangers. Even Sheets is a very slim possibility, in my opinion. CC will be pitching for either the Yankees, Angels, Dodgers, or Cubs next year. I doubt Sheets would want to pitch half his games in Arlington. Who would, besides fringy talent looking for a big payday? (See Millwood, Kevin.) Rangers will only get quality pitching by developing their own, or trading for prospects which they then develop.
Halladay is staying in Toronto. Period.
The two guys you don’t want, Bedard and Oswalt, are the only two pitchers that actually seem like viable options. Though I can’t see Ed Wade giving up Oswalt, he might do it for the right price, the Astros farm system being what it is. Bedard can absolutely be got, and despite what appears to be a horrible attitude on his part, he might actually be someone who could help the Rangers.
by sggut95 on
Jul 27, 2008 9:27 AM CDT
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FWIW
In his only start in Arlington, Sheets did throw 7 shutout innings…
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by hinduplaya on
Jul 27, 2008 9:46 AM CDT
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Good info
I’m not sure there’s anything to it, but my thinking is that someone with a good, heavy sinker would be a good fit for the Rangers, kind of like Aaron Cook at Coors. Not sure what Sheets’ arsenal is, but I think someone said he had some sink to his fastball. If he’d consider pitching in Arlington, he’d definitely be a great add. Not sure the Rangers should hand him a blank check, though, given his injury history.
by sggut95 on
Jul 27, 2008 9:51 AM CDT
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Im all for starting the discussions at
5/75 or 4/65.
by booyahcaveman on
Jul 27, 2008 10:14 AM CDT
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? seriously
kevin millwood – 4/$48M
park chan ho – 5/$65M
vincenta padilla – 3/$34
i would pay sheets $20M to get him here. i haven’t seen the rangers sign (m)any good fa pitchers b/c they really don’t want to come here. it is going to take a lot more to get someone to come to texas than someplace else – at least until the rangers become a good team (can win a playoff game).
the upside is that having a top pitcher here would demonstrate an unprecedented committment to winning and would net that much more in additional revenue.
even better, it might propel the team into the playoffs and get them something even better – a shot at the world series
oh – and make sure you set aside $20M for hamilton, too.
by sam in so cal on
Jul 27, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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5/90
If Millwood and Padilla are worth around 12mm, then Sheets is worth 18mm, imo.
And I’d be all for adding a vesting option based on IP for a 5th or even a 6th year.
Sheets is a god damn ace.
We need one of those.
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by thedirkatron on
Jul 27, 2008 1:41 PM CDT
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Oswalt
I think that he’d come cheaper than Bedard and definitely cheaper than Halladay. He’s got a big contract – $14+million average until 2011. The Astros aren’t going anywhere soon, and would like to build up their system, even if it is at low levels. I’d imagine a deal with a few of our surplus pieces (Cruz, Arias) plus some high ceiling, far away guys (e.g., Font, Perez, Ramirez, etc) may be sufficient. Houston’s system is so bad that they’d probably accept quantity over quality to get Oswalt’s deal off the book.
I also think Oswalt is a far, far better pitcher than Bedard, and while he always has a few injury concerns, is rarely out for a long duration because of them. He’s more like Jake Peavy in that respect.
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Jul 27, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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fwiw
I don’t think there’s much chance of Oswalt being traded here.
Drayton McLane doesn’t want to rebuild. And he doesn’t want Oswalt pitching for the Rangers.
by Adam J. Morris on
Jul 27, 2008 11:06 AM CDT
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I agree
But how long can he keep banging his head against the wall before he passes out? They really should move Oswalt. I know they won’t, and McLane’s probably too prideful to move him within Texas, but it’s hard to argue it wouldn’t make sense for both clubs.
Oswalt’s career numbers in Arlington are pretty good, too:
3.94 ERA, 1.35 WHIP in 48 IP.
(BTW, I did some checking on career numbers at Arlington. Just posted something on it under fanposts.)
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Jul 27, 2008 11:11 AM CDT
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I certainly hope AJM is wrong...............
If this organization would rather hold on to Wright and Guardado in its “drive” for 2nd place and 84 wins, than to make a couple of trades to add more depth to this farm system, then JD, Nolan, Hicks, etc. are not nearly as committed to this “plan” as Rangers fans need for them to be.
As for the “guys in the room”.....I’m tired of that argument. Let these guys worry about keeping their ERA below 5.00 or their OBP above .350 Let management make the roster decisions.
Besides, guys like Guardado and Wright definitely fall into that category of “wildly inconsistent bullpen pitcher”. They have been solid this year, but none of us would be surprised if they both suck next season.
TRADE THEM!!!!! FOR WHATEVER YOU CAN GET!!!!!!
Their value will never be any higher than it is right now.
Trade Guardado, Wright, Byrd, Cat, Vazquez, Cruz, and anyone else who is a free agent at the end of the season or whom you don’t see as having an important role on the 2009 Texas Rangers.
If you want to hold on to Bradley to see how his entire season unfolds before you decide if he’s part of the plan for the future, then that’s understandable.
But the rest of those guys need to be traded.
Whether they win 84 games and finish 2nd, 15 games behind LAA, or they win 79 games, finish 3rd, 20 games behind the Angels, what’s the difference? If you aren’t in a legit pennant race, then none of those other numbers matter.
The mainstream media and the casual fans are going to ignore this mediocre team once the 1st Cowboys scrimmage occurs, anyway. Making moves or not making moves to keep the media/fans happy is a stupid idea, anyway. Make moves to make the organization stronger. The rest will take care of itself, eventually.
Get as much talent into this system as you can.
I also take issue with the argument of “hold onto these guys so you can get compensatory picks for next year”. Why not TRADE them now for a young player who has been playing minor league baseball for 2-3 years? This way, you ought to have a MUCH better idea of what that player’s ceiling might be, instead of rolling the dice on some 19-year old kid eligible for the draft next June.
Trade. Trade. Trade.
by Hard8 on
Jul 27, 2008 7:00 PM CDT
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Agree, with one stipulation
I wouldn’t trade Guardado for nothing. I just think that you can get enough to make it worthwhile.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on
Jul 28, 2008 12:38 AM CDT
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