LSB Community Prospect Project: Mid-Season #19
by thedirkatron on Jul 27, 2008 1:23 PM CDT
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PrintAfter 344 votes (and a bit of controversy), Martin Perez has won the right to be called the LSB Community #18 prospect!
The list so far:
1. 1b, Chris Davis
2. RHP, Neftali Feliz
3. RHP, Eric Hurley
4. SS, Elvis Andrus
5. C, Maximiliano Ramirez
6. 1b, Justin Smoak
7. RHP, Michael Main
8. RHP, Blake "C-Wun" Beavan
9. C, Taylor Teagarden
10. LHP Kasey Kiker
11. OF, Engel Beltre
12. LHP, Matt Harrison
13. OF, Julio Borbon
14. LHP, Derek Holland
15. RHP, Tommy Hunter
16. RHP, Wilmer Font
17. RHP, Neil Ramirez
18. LHP, Martin Perez
Time to move on to the next vote.
The polls are open, so go ahead and vote in the poll at the bottom and feel free to make any suggestions and/or criticisms in the comments below.
And please don't hesitate to tell me you want on the list for next time.
NOTE: There has been some speculation as to what the criteria are for this vote. Should guys who are currently in the bigs be involved in "prospect" discussions? For the sake of this exercise we're taking what the guys have done in the big leagues and using the BA prospect formula of 130 AB's or 50 ip. If a guy is under those limits, he's still a prospect right now, so he goes on the list. It's that simple.
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Madrigal yet agian
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Lil' Lemon is the shiznit
Gotta vote for my boy for real now.
He’s got the best chance to be the best player at this point.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
once again...Vote Lemon
Remember people you need more citrus in your life.. You don’t want Scurvy do you?
Tough one,
definitely not Renny Osuna though. I think I may wait on my choice while reading some of the input made on this thread. BTW, dirkatron, appreciate you doing these.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
Tough choice...
Between Lemon, Vallejo and Madrigal. I went with Lemon.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
i've been voting Vallejo
But I’m not going to do it if it is a wasted vote.
I’m going to wait a little bit before I vote.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 27, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I went with Vallejo
but it is hard for me to differentiate between him, Lemon, and Duran. I really think Duran will probably have the best chance of becoming a starter in the ML.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
The problem with Lemon
I don’t know if he has a position, long-term.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 27, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he profiles like Kinsler did
below average tools for SS, above average tools for 2b.
His main problem is that he’s blocked cause that Ian Kinsler guy isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Jul 27, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he can stick at SS
I don’t think he has the arm to play 3B.
I don’t know that he has the range to play 2B.
If he’s a below average defensive 2B, but still serviceable, he can probably carve out a Keith Ginter type career.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 27, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Not sure about the ‘above average tools for 2b’ part. Haven’t really watched him, though, looking forward to him getting to Frisco where I can.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 27, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he'll end up having more than enough defensive chops to handle 2b at the ML level
and I think his bat is going to surprise some folks. The season Fukudome is having (.278/.384/.402) reminds me a lot of what I expect out of Lemon, though hopefully Lemon will hit a few more doubles and get the SLG% up a bit.
I just think it’s funny that everyone hates on a guy like Borbon cause he doesn’t take a walk, but then a guy like Lemon who takes walks like a fat kid takes trips to McDonalds gets hated on too.
I really thought Lemon would get mad love on this board.
I’m surprised I’ve sort of emerged as his champion.
Is it just the defensive ambiguity giving y’all troubles? Or what’s the deal?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Jul 27, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's the problem
If he draws walks, but doesn’t really do much else and can’t stick in the MI, he’s basically Matt Murton.
How excited do you think we should be about a guy whose upside is Matt Murton?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 27, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
right now
he’s hitting for average, hitting for power. Why is it that whenever we talk about Marcus Lemon, people seem to think all he can do is walk?
When in fact
Lemon has 88 consecutive plate appearances without a walk..
I wonder if he got tired of people saying all he can do is walk..
Those 88 appearances coincide with a jump in his slg %. As I listed below..
June .405
July .555
I'm not saying all he can do is walk
But we’re talking about someone who isn’t going to hit .300 or have a ton of power. Decent average, some gap power, draws some walks.
That’s Matt Murton.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 27, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not?
How, at this point, when he’s hitting .300+ and with decent power can we definitively say that he will never hit .300+ and for good power? He’s a 20 year old performing extremely well in A+. I don’t think we can conclude that he’s Matt Murton just yet
from baseball prospectus
Marcus Lemon is Chet`s kid. Like dad, he`s a fantastic defender, only this time the position is shortstop, not center field. It cost the Rangers a million dollars to buy him away from college, and he rewarded them with better than expected batting.
Have you seen him?
Regardless of what BP says, he’s not a fantastic defender.
by Baider on Jul 27, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope
But all I heard about him when drafted and just after was how toolsy he was, now it seems people talk about his lack of tools…. why the change?
I don't think he was ever described as "toolsy"
He was described as a character/makeup guy, an instincts guy. He’s probably the opposite of a “toolsy” guy.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 27, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
I just went back and read Newberg’s day one draft report from 2006
Lemon is said to have off-the-charts makeup and exemplary work ethic. What he lacks in tools he makes up for with an all-out, hard-nosed style of play that the best offensive catalysts in the game boast.
Im not sure why I thought he was referred to as “toolsy”. But I stand corrected.
Also saw this...
Marcus Lemon, a shortstop, is considered a tremendous defensive player (Baseball America ranked him as the second-best defensive player at any position among high school draft-eligibles)
Where has his defense gone?
and this...
Davis throws in the low 90s, but the Rangers prefer his potential as a left-handed power hitter.
Thank god…
Mitch Moreland the next Chris Davis?
Speed and defense - Vallejo over Lemon
Neither is a dramatically better hitter than the other. Neither has significantly more power. Vallejo a better defender and has game-changing speed.
I know Lemon plays SS and Vallejo 2B right now, but hard to see Lemon staying there.
by Baider on Jul 27, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I beg to differ
given their performances in A+ this year, I would contend that Lemon is a significantly better hitter than Vallejo
You may be right
But I don’t think 300 AB’s is enough to make that call.
Also just Vallejo’s third season as a switch hitter. He should keep getting better.
by Baider on Jul 27, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Vallejo
is about 6-0, 185ish right now, unless he goes CHase Utley on everyone, I doubt he’d get significantly better
22 years old, 3rd season switch-hitting
can’t improve?
by Baider on Jul 27, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
improve? yes
significantly better? unlikely
He’s been at it for quite awhile and he’s about the size he’s not exactly got much growing left to go. I don’t think he’ll be a better hitter than Lemon
I am a Lemon fan
but even if Lemon is a bit better hitter…it is hard to ignore Vallejo’s game breaking speed and game changing defense…two things Lemon does not have…so Vallejo got my vote
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
Roberto Alomar, Orlando Hudson
game changing D at 2B
by Baider on Jul 27, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
2B defense can absolutely be game changing
and with some of Soriano and Kinsler’s issues there I would think you have cursed an error or two. Just like Kinsler’s range allowing him to get to a lot of would-be singles has an effect on the game.
And, as it pertains to Lemon vs. Vallejo…two guys that may well wind up in a utility role…Vallejo’s defense is a big factor for me. It’s the same reason I rate Duran ahead of Lemon. As far as possible utility guys (those 3 + Arias), Lemon is the most limited defensively.
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
Meh
what’s the best case scenario for runs saved for a 2nd basemen? I’m honestly curious, because I don’t think it makes up the difference between two dramatically different bats.
Well then that's where we differ
You see Lemon as having a “dramatically different” bat. While I think he will be a better overall hitter than Vallejo, I don’t know that he will be “dramatically different.”
But, it’s really not fair at this point b.c. I haven’t seen Lemon play and I have seen Vallejo. So, in all honesty, I should probably withhold my judgement b.c. Vallejo is an exciting guy to watch. I am looking forward to seeing Lemon in Frisco next year.
"Here comes the version of Benoit that lets the other team put it out of reach. I hate that version."
-Athos
Centerfield II?
Firebat – I’m not sure what your response refers to, so please forgive me if I misunderstand. If you are suggesting that Vallejo convert from 2nd base to centerfield, then I think that is pure brilliance. Vallejo’s greatest strength is speed, so put that to work where it has it’s greatest value – centerfield. JasonParks claims that Vallejo is awesome at going back on fly balls, so let the guy play a shallow centerfield and put his exceptional speed and defensive ability to work. Add the plus arm, good average (.286 on the year), solid obp (.348), and developing power (.426) and voila, the Rangers have three outstanding centerfield prospects where last year at this time they had none.
Just to finish the thought, Vallejo could do the Arizona Fall League thing and spring training to convert himself from MIF to centerfielder and then line-up next spring as the starter and lead-off hitter for Frisco. Borbon gets to start and lead-off in Oklahoma and Beltre gets to start and lead-off in Bakersfield. You’ve got three levels of outstanding prospects/trade chips that you can use to bolster your big-league club either via call-ups or trades. This looks exactly like the current catcher situation, especially when you consider that Hamilton/Boggs already represent pretty good centerfield solutions on the major league team.
Sorry for the tangent, but I love the idea, Firebat! If that’s what you meant.
by spurdynasty on Jul 27, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
same
i switched off vallejo a few rounds ago, its pretty much a wasted vode.
to me vallejo,lemon and santana all fall in around here. and diamond and duran arent far off
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Since he's 2nd
and not out of reach from Mayberry, I don’t think that it’s a wasted vote at this point.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 27, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
For me, Vallejo and Santana are the most interesting players here, with Lemon seeming overdue himself. I remind myself that 2-4 players that we have ranked will not be prospects by the end of the season, so we may be talking about the #15-16 prospect right here, by the winter. I think that I have to go Vallejo.
Also, I think that Robbie Ross likely belongs in this range and will be voting for him if this goes much longer, but it is pretty hard to vote for a guy in his situation.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
I can't see how Ross gets voted in right now
His contract situation is much more unsure and he isn’t a top 10 talent like Smoak.which warrants a lot of talk before signing and playing in a single game. But hey, I wouldn’t have ranked Neil Ramirez that high either
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Still a part of the JMJ fan club here
Don’t let that bad cold streak in the beginning of July fool you, a power hitting 24 year old in AAA needs to be in the top 20 overall. Even in this system.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Cristian Santana...
Jamey Newberg’s “In their footsteps” series covered Santana in the left fielder entry http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080619&content_id=2961846&vkey=news_tex&fext=.jsp&c_id=tex
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From the article, it sounds like he’s injury prone in the more literal sense of the term (e.g. different injuries as opposed to someone who keeps re-aggravating the same injury). The most recent injury being an ankle injury that he suffered in late May.
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While his numbers for the year (.238/.305/.413 all at Clinton) aren’t anything to write home about, there are some factors worth considering; First, in 96 at-bats last year in the Arizona League, he managed to draw the kind of attention that got him rated the number 9 prospect in the circuit by the league’s managers and scouts. Second, he’s rebounding in July, with a .284/.346/.432 for the month. And third, he’s very young. Had he been born in the States and drafted out of high school, he would have been selected in 2007. Santana turned 19 last month, which is young even by Midwest League standards. Although one’s expectations could be distorted by the performances of Michael Main and Blake Beavan (#7 and #8 on this list, for which I’d like to give much thanks to thedirkatron), Santana was moved to A-Ball pretty quickly.
Oh, and by the way, Cristian Santana got my vote.
Santana
I guess I’m looking at him as getting healthy and by age 24 being an indispensable part of the Rangers’ core. Even if he is a 5th OF-DH-backup C and not the starting C I had envisioned when he was 16.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Jul 27, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
What's up with the TD
lack of respect? I don’t get it?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
I do not get it either,
It seems to me that until he proves otherwise he should be considered a top prospect.
Someone please explain
Laird for President
IDK
This is my 4th consecutive vote for him.
"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08
by badradiorules on Jul 27, 2008 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Yay!
Still no avalanche of Renny Osuna votes.
Not that he’s unworthy of consideration, I’m just glad that no player has gotten 30 votes in 5 minutes again.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
The lack of Warner love hurts.
But the absolute dirth of votes for Gomez is just baffling.
The twenty year old has this line for the season:
G 16
IP 88
H 75
R 40
ER 29
BB 20
K 70
ERA 2.97
WHIP 1.08
The kid pitched lights out and was nearing his innings limit when he went on the DL. Now there have not been many reports about what’s going on with him but damn, how does this line from the 20 year old Dominican garner just one freaking vote? He was a guy to keep an eye on from last year and by any reasonable expectation has exceeded all but the most bullish opinions about him. He’d arguably be the best pitcher in the Astros system yet he gets no love here. What the hell guys?
Personally
I tend to value relief prospects the lowest of all prospects. It’s not that they can’t be good, it’s more that their market value tends to be pretty low.
Kennil
- Pitcher’s league.
- Shut down early.
That’s the thought process here.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 28, 2008 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Vallejo
2nd time in a row.
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
Whittleman
2nd rd pick repeating the league in tremendous hitters environment. Castillo first time in full-season ball and has at least shown flashes.
by Baider on Jul 27, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Castillo first because of my hopes for him and how big of a difference he could make if this had indeed been a breakthrough year. Whittleman next because he should be a real quality AA 3B prospect right now, which would be nice.
I don’t think that Phillips really belongs with those two because it’s not like he was ever going to be that meaningful of a player even if he met his ceiling.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 27, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Castillo can still salavage this season
In fact he pitched well today in relief. So he’s got more opportunities. So for me:
Whittleman, Phillips, Castillo
Though I didn’t really expect much from Phillips. Reed might belong on here too.
Whittleman's
complete lack of power in the Cal league.
"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08
by badradiorules on Jul 27, 2008 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Whittleman
As of June I thought he’d be a couple months in Frisco.
Phillips seems hurt… I guess we’ll see.
Castillo’s a kid. I really think he’ll be fine.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 28, 2008 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought Castillo
was going to do some of what Feliz has done this year, but I’d still say Whittleman. He’s repeating a league for the 2nd time and really not getting it done. And his defense still sucks.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
Question for Lemon fans
Those of you who have advocated Lemon…what sort of line do you see him putting up during his peak years?
From age 25-29, let’s assume he’s playing for the Rangers…what do you see his average/OBP/SLG being?
How many players...
...have that high a walk rate with an ISO less than 150?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 27, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope
He has a 70 point career AVG/OBP spread, with a ISO of 143.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 27, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Theroit, Fukudome...
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Jul 28, 2008 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Hanley Ramirez
is the only current SS better than that (I think?)
Were you voting for him in top 5 prospects? A SS who can do that shouldn’t be in this area of the list. No chance the Rangers have 18 better.
by Baider on Jul 27, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Hence the part about the OF
I don’t think he sticks at SS, but I think that’s how I see him turning out as a hitter. Great OBP, good average, above-average power.
.295/.380/.425
as a second baseman.
Assuming he develops right and isn’t f’d up by the Rangers as they try to bring him up and find a place for him to play in our crowded MIF picture.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Jul 28, 2008 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Lemon
Give the kid credit. If he maintains his pace he’ll play ML baseball before 25.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 28, 2008 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Lemon as ML
.285/.370/.425
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 28, 2008 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I voted Vallejo, but am also high on Lemon
I think he can post a .300/.370/.440 line in the Majors maybe with some more power actually.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
interesting
player A at 20 in Advanced A:
69 G, 292 AB, 61 R, 96 H, 13 2B, 8 3B, 0 HR, 39 RBI, 23 BB, 30 K
.329/.378/.428
player B at 20 in Advanced A:
85 G, 314 AB, 58 R, 99 H, 22 2B, 3 3B, 6 HR, 36 RBI, 39 BB, 48 K
.315/.401/.462
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
Hah
+1-ing a post that calls yours interesting, nice.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 27, 2008 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Then maybe expand the vocabulary?
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 28, 2008 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Lemon's not Jeter
Let’s not go nuts. I hope I’m wrong and he stays at SS, but even if he does, he won’t be that good. Don’t bring up Jeter’s defensive metrics and all of that – Lemon isn’t going to be as good as Jeter in the field or at the plate.
by Baider on Jul 27, 2008 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
who's going nuts?
Point is there is a possibility of something good here…
Who thought Jeter would be like this at A+? You can’t dismiss anything right now..
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
Jeter
also hit .377/.446/.517 at AA and .349/.439/.492 at AAA that same year (20 years old). About 35 games at both AA and AAA. Split the next year (age 21) between AAA and a September callup.
Lemon may be a good prospect. Drawing a Jeter comparison is a little nuts, that’s all I’m saying. Jeter was the 6th pick in the country and was always considered to “be like this”.
by Baider on Jul 27, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
"Lemon may be a good prospect'??
I kinda think he’s already there…
Well, we can’t compare AA and AAA because the Rangers won’t push Lemon like the Yanks did with Jeter. So, no point in posting those numbers…
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
What do you think Lemon's market value is?
Compare him to other top prospects. Do you think he could be the main prospect in a big trade?
Again, to be clear, I like Lemon. Just don’t think he’s as good as some do. Adam’s valuation seems more likely to me. A left-handed hitting Jeff Keppinger maybe.
by Baider on Jul 27, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Lemon is screwed
because of Young and Andrus, he’ll never be moved that fast no matter how great he is playing.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Lemon's not Jeter
That’s fine, but just to be clear…are you basing that on the Cal League favoring hitters?
(Too lazy to look up park effects on Jeter’s A+ league.)
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 28, 2008 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Huge difference between..
...the FSL and the Cal League, in terms of being hitter-friendly.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 27, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
no
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 27, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
I know nothing about the FSL, and just know their are some silly parks in the Cal League, such as Lancaster, where HR’s can get ridiculous some nights.
Yeah
Myrtle Beach isn’t in the FSL, but for example, if you contrast it with Lancaster, pretty much all stats are affected by the ridiculous winds (in both directions). The park factors affect a lot of things.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 27, 2008 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
The other thing you are missing
Jeter spent parts of his age 20 season in AA and AAA, and posted OPSs of 900+ at both of those levels.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 27, 2008 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Lemon to Frisco
Agree. He’s had a ridiculous July.
Actually I can think of a SS above him who’s had a promo-worthy July.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 28, 2008 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Arias...
Yeah he’s been somethin’ huh?
Oh you mean Andrus, sorry.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Yeah
I’d kind of like to see Vallejo at 3B and Lemon at 2B in Frisco. That would be a fun infield, and Lemon does look ready.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 28, 2008 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Vallejo in CF
I kind of like that idea actually, especially the way spurdynasty put it above.
Kinda makes a ton of sense…
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 28, 2008 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Chone Figgins
kinda 3B?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 28, 2008 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions
and maybe
Washington’s kind of leadoff hitter, but without the stellar on base numbers.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
I am ever
looking for a good player for Washington’s system. Vazquez was that guy this year, and the fact that he can play SS and still contribute offensively has meant that Daniels didn’t necessarily have to waste any roster spots on guys who make a manager like Washington comfortable but kill you when he puts them in the lineup too often.
Unless he’s trade bait, this is probably the sort of role that Vallejo serves, at least for a few years. So I’d like for him to be able to play 2B, SS and 3B, and if he can play a little OF, great.
But mostly I’d just like to see Lemon in AA and this seems like the easiest way to get the three infielders on the field at the same time while not stunting their growth more than necessary.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 28, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Keep thinking
those good thoughts. I wonder if Daniels is thinking the same thing—find a player Washington will like that doesn’t hurt the club if played too much in the wrong roles.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
I think he'd be crazy not to be
at least as long as Washington and he are both here.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 28, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like JMJ...
is going to finish in the top 20. Not sure I’d have him on my list ‘til the 23/24 range though.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I wouldn't
have him in front of Lemon, Vallejo, Madrigal, Gomez, Diamond, Boscan, Duran or Beau Jones, but that’s me. It just doesn’t seem like he’s going to hit his way onto a major league roster as anything other than a 4th outfielder/backup 1B. If that’s his realistic ceiling then he doesn’t belong on this list till after 25.
Junior Mayberry
again.
He’s hit decently at both levels this season. I have no problem with him being inside the top 20.
Boy, I can't wait for the next poll
We could likely see a four-way battle between Diamond, Madrigal, Lemon and Vallejo. Can’t wait to see the results of that.
Me, I’ve been voting Diamond for awhile now.
I'm a HUGE Diamond fan
Probably a lot higher than most on here. I still haven’t voted for him though due to the injury. I think next year you’ll see him climbing up the charts.
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