It seems to me that they should have kept him in AAA until September and then given him a callup and gone with someone like the Wes Littleton’s of the world….

you go with Wright in the 7th! How are Wash’s hands tied if Wright’s available? Maybe Wright gives up 6 and then Madrigal comes in to mop up, but the dynamic is entirely different then. Wright will be able to shake it off because he’s a vet that’s been through it before and Madrigal’s ego isn’t shattered in his first mlb appearance. I’m a fan of Wash, i’m not a fire Wash guy, think he’s done well on a lot of counts, it just seems like he makes a bonehead move like this every time we’re going for a sweep, and this one is potentially more harmful than just this game. What 24 year old kid is not going to be freaked out by going through a drubbing with 50 thousand yankee fans screaming at him? Wash’s weakest suit is putting himself in the players shoes….. remember yanking Cat when he was online for a cycle?

I was at the gym listening to the Yankee announcers on my headset. They were quite respectful. They couldn’t believe Wash went with Madrigal in that situation. They kept repeating it over and over. Has he only been pitching like a year and half? The Yankee announcers were very aware the bullpen was overworked but still.. that is like the last guy you want to put in that situation. I was like …is this one of those Wash WTF moments that we’ve all grown to love? Now you have a rookie who’s shellshocked after getting raked by the middle of the Yankee order in a high pressure situation. There had to have beensomebody they could of used anybody but Madrigal. The Yankee announcers were also talking about how his fastball is flat as a board, absolutely NO movement on it.

In game decisions this season.

Lets talk about how Milton Bradley trade arrow is still green and pointing up baby.

DYNASTY PEOPLE. BIG PICTURE. Remind yourself of this everyday.

Murphy playing less against lefties is a good idea.

About the Latin signings—have the Rangers been linked to anyone else? I haven’t seen any news…did they make grand pronouncements last year like the Padres yesterday, or were they quieter?

People are freaking out over this when really Wash didn’t have many options. The only thing that was misplayed was not getting Warner’s feet wet in a low pressure situation prior to last nights game.

...does anybody have an update on his health status?

if he’s not feeling any better, than we need to make a roster move before the Baltimore series.

for putting Cat in the line up. 3for3 with a walk, nice job!

...was calling up Warner Madrigal the right move?

...given the success of the other youngsters… did the Rangers get ahead of themselves with this one? again, i don’t recall hearing anything about Madrigal dominating Triple-A…

...or is this just one of those “growing pains” debates… where you just have to throw the rooks out there and let them get experience under their belts?

can some1 please explain to me examples that make the A’s track record of developing HS drafted pitchers and younger LA pitchers? I dont see it.

At least we have an off day today and one of our better pitchers going tommorow in Padilla, who could get us 7. At least eh bullpen can get a much needed break…

They need to figure out what they have in Madrigal, and that is much more important than whether or not they win or lose specific games right now. You do not risk the health of the rest of your bullpen because you want to baby a guy. He got knocked around, so what? I put him right back out there tomorrow, get back on that horse and ride, Maddy.

The only real question here is whether or not he should be in the majors right now. Thats it. Washington had no other option last night. Its nice to be an armchair pitcher and say a guy can go out for a third and fourth night in a row and pitch but in reality its not the right call. You don’t bring Madrigal in for his first ever big league experience with the bases loaded. With it being a one run game and the onyl available bodies being Madrigal and Wright you save Wright for the end of the game to be your closer. Bringing in Madrigal to start the 7th with no one on and no outs is an ideal situation no matter who is batting.

Bob Sturm yesterday?

He stated that insiders have told him that the decision to can Washington had already been made but that a scheduling snafu kept JD from being able to fire him. The Rangers then won a couple of games in a row and the decision to fire him was put on hold….

Has this been discussed here or in the papers? I havent heard this anywhere.

This seems like explosive info and yet I’ve heard/seen nothing about it….

Danks, Volquez, Galaragga. Not to mention Hurley and look how Feliz is doing. Our system ain’t that bad.

Why isnt Salty getting all the playing time right now with Laird out?

Seems like the perfect opportunity to get him 7-8 starts in a row and see if he can get his bat uncorked.

Has Salty even started 3 games in a row, 4? I’m just confused and would like some insight if anyones got any…..

problems with last night is all the talk today about the Yanks offensive explosion after Big Stein Jr scolded them yesterday for their lack of production. There’s no mention at all about the Rangers bullpen exploding and sucking like it has done quite a bit this year. Nope, it’s all about the Yanks responding to Steinbrenner.

On a side note, what is up with this team’s complete and total inability to sweep a freak’n series. They’re now 0-7 in chances to sweep a series of 3 or more games. It’s like they get to the third game and just completely implode.

on some of these pitchers and have traded for some good ones. Who are the late rounders they’ve “developed”? They’ve hit on some obvious high picks that have done well like Zito, Mulder, maybe Blanton. But, you better when you are picking in the top 10 like that. And, lately the Rangers have been developing pitchers probably better than the A’s.

I actually don’t know much other than Hudson. Maybe they have a lot more? Names anyone? Thx.

what Robinson Tejeda is doing in KC so far? If we are okay with rushing Madrigal and experiencing his growing pains, it would have been nice to do the same with Tejeda.

But I know we needed that spot on the 40 for….

‘track record’ are you talking about?

Lots of talk about using Madrigal vs. Wright vs. others. However….

...seems like the situation was created more by the defense, or lack thereof, in the early stages of the game. If Kinsler and Duran don’t commit errors, Mendoza lasts longer than 4-2/3’s and complexion of the late innings is completely different.

And how about a little flack for the offense. The Yankee bullpen, full of no-names, pitches 12 IP and only gives up one run…and that off of Rivera. The first two games were great games to watch and surely built character for the team. But every once in a while, the offense needs to get a little cushion to give Wash some options out of the pen.

I remember many here wanting Madrigal called up. Not only that but BGL bumped, and him given the closers role. Seriously? Can we stop with all that talk now? I think he will end up being a good reliever but I don’t think he is ready for the majors yet. That was a very tough spot for him last night for his debut, but as others including AJM have stated the options were very limited and if he is on the team you have to use him. Whether it was in the 5th or the 7th makes little difference imo.

Many of the same people who were knee-jerking about taking BGL out of the closers role are the same people who wanted Madrigal up, Wash fired, etc. How would those first 2 games have ended with someone else besides BGL closing? Point is that people need to stop overreacting to every single game. It’s a long damn season and this is still a very young team rebuilding and the best is yet to come. Enough with the “DFA” or “fire” someone after every game.

Oh… and Madrigal’s ERA is 162. I’m pretty sure it will go down in his next outing.