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A bunch of stuff for you to peruse, while you scan the internets waiting for trade deadline news...

Jerry Crasnick looks at nine deadline deals that he says weren't as advertised. I am linking because there are three Ranger trades included (Carlos Lee, Mark Teixeira, Eric Gagne), but also because I find it weird that Crasnick seems to imply that the Colon/Sizemore deal was viewed as a great deal for Montreal and a bad deal by the Indians at the time, and that the Zambrano/Kazmir trade was ever seen as anything other than the Mets getting hosed.

John Perrotto had a chat session today that included much discussion of the Rangers catchers.  Ditto Jim Callis, who also has comments on Elvis Andrus and says he'd pick Teagarden out of the catching options.

Buster Olney re-visits the Teixeira trade from last year:

Maybe Kotchman will take a major step forward in Atlanta, or maybe not. Either way, we are one step closer to tabulating the Braves' final bill on Teixeira. In his one year with the team, the Braves went 77-83, and ranked 13th in runs per game in the big leagues. Meanwhile, the five players they shipped to Texas are making their own journeys:

• Jarrod Saltalamacchia, the switch-hitting catcher, is hitting .232, and increasingly, there are questions about how much he's going to hit in the big leagues. • Left-hander Matt Harrison is 2-1 with a 7.32 ERA with the Rangers. • Elvis Andrus, a slick-fielding shortstop, is hitting .291 with 43 stolen bases in Double-A. • Lefty Beau Jones has a 2.93 ERA in Class A. • Right-handed pitcher Neftali Feliz is 8-3 with a 2.46 ERA this season and has reached Double-A, and has racked up 127 strikeouts in 102 1/3 innings. Feliz may turn out to have the biggest impact in the majors, and Andrus and Saltalamacchia are poised to have long careers in the big leagues. Time will tell on Harrison and Jones, but as a group, there is the great potential for low-price quality service in the majors, for years to come. So there is no way that the Teixeira deal could be looked at as anything but an enormous bust for the Braves, and an enormous success for the Rangers and general manager Jon Daniels.

Christina Kahrl is underwhelmed by the return Atlanta got for Teixeira.  The Oracle thinks it is a good move for the Angels.

John Barten has the latest THT Awards up, and still has Ian Kinsler as the A.L. MVP.

Jeff Sullivan hates Carlos Silva.  Watching Silva yesterday, it occurred to me that he'd fit in well in the Ranger bullpen, particularly if we brought Franklyn German back.  Silva, German, Warner Madrigal, Eddie Guardado, Frankie Francisco...that would be a beefy bullpen.

 

 

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I completely agree

I mean is there some conspiracy that forces teams to make terrible trades with the Yankees or does Brain Cashman know hypnosis or what?
The Yankees are dying for a catcher. Everyone in whole wide world knows it. Pudge can still play and all the Tigers get is Kyle freaking Farnsworth? If I’m a Tigers, I’m pissed!

by texnykazrus on Jul 30, 2008 11:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

Kind of like the Abreu trade. It has to be their willingness to take on bad contracts. That’s the only other non-hypnosis explanation.

"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner

by trza on Jul 30, 2008 11:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't see it being bad from the Tiger's side

Brandon Inge is probably a better catcher right now due to Pudge’s shoulder, and Pudge has a huge contract.

People think of Pudge as a hall of famer, but right now, he is probably not as good as Laird.

"And I stopped beating my wife just a couple of weeks ago." -John McCain

by DJCahill on Jul 31, 2008 9:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

beef

I think Ponson belongs in the bullpen, too.

"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner

by trza on Jul 30, 2008 11:13 PM CDT   0 recs

judging my the pictures I've seen and the descriptions I've heard...

...I’ll take the Morris family over that bullpen in an eating contest every day of the week…

Pinch me...this team is playing above .500???

by RangerMoto on Jul 31, 2008 1:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I have a feeling tonight's win

will make us a buyer tomorrow.

I’m going to guess a catcher (probably Laird) for Arroyo.
And then, a B-, C+ prospect for some reliever.

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2008 11:17 PM CDT   0 recs

Laird for Arroyo

I wouldn’t hate that deal.

"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner

by trza on Jul 30, 2008 11:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Concur...

Arroyo’s contract should be avoided.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 30, 2008 11:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

trza

said “wouldn’t”

by AirJordan on Jul 30, 2008 11:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah...

just noticed that, I thought he said would.

OMFT has more value right now than a guy who is getting 10 mil a year and knocked around in the NL. Laird should be dealt for pitching, but not someone like Arroyo.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 30, 2008 11:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

JD wouldn't trade for Arroyo

it just isn’t consistent with his gameplan. He’s too disciplined to do that I think.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 30, 2008 11:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I would.

Arroyo’s 31, has a relatively big contract, is a fly-ball pitcher, has been up-and-down this year.

Plus he’s just not that good.

If we trade Laird and get someone older than him in return I’d be pretty shocked.

by LiamP on Jul 30, 2008 11:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

contract

What’s his status? I was under the impression that it was pretty reasonable, but I could be wrong. It would be buying low on him, but he’s been good as recently as last season, and really good as recently as two seasons back.

"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner

by trza on Jul 30, 2008 11:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Arroyo

Something like 3 years $30M left.

by Topgun22 on Jul 30, 2008 11:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I believe these numbers are correct. Not sure.

Due 3.95MM in ‘08, 9.5MM in ‘09, 11MM in ‘10, 11MM club option w/ 2MM buyout in ‘11.

by LiamP on Jul 30, 2008 11:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

of course though

we wouldn’t take all that.

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2008 11:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think it really matters.

Arroyo doesn’t fit here at all.

by LiamP on Jul 30, 2008 11:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly...

Millwood II.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 30, 2008 11:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Arroyo

Didn’t he have white guy cornrows at one point? If so, no deal.

by Jack Nicholson 1974 on Jul 30, 2008 11:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tomorrow's Trade...

I’m starting to think Laird for Bailey is more of a possibility that I initially believed. Reading the national pundits (who don’t set the market, I know), it appears Laird may have more trade value than we have given him credit for.

by Topgun22 on Jul 30, 2008 11:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Now that's

a deal that needs to be made…. Also Slowey had a CG yesterday or the day before….. Too bad Blalock got injured….

by AirJordan on Jul 30, 2008 11:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep...

Perotto says in the chat linked above that he thought the Rangers could get someone that could help today, plus a nice prospect for the future in exchange for Laird…

by N41D on Jul 31, 2008 12:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

bringing Ron Mahay

My buddy works for the rangers, and he ran into JD in the bathroom, inquiring about Mr. Mahay. Strange, he doesn’t get off the phone while in the bathroom.

by theotherdierkindallas on Jul 30, 2008 11:23 PM CDT   0 recs

same

JD doesn’t have his own bathroom?

Hmm….

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2008 11:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's a peoples' man

he uses the peoples’ bathroom.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 30, 2008 11:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

doubt it :)

There is no status, except for me. Because I am who I am.

MILES

by LAMuscleFag on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

There was a video somewhere...

...where they showed Jon going into his office. It wasn’t anything super-spectacular, so I think he would honestly have either a single person bathroom shared by others in the exec office or utilize a men’s restroom… not completely implausible.

Replace Jim Knox

by benjihana on Jul 31, 2008 12:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Jon Daniels

The new Dumpmaster D.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 30, 2008 11:28 PM CDT to parent up   1 recs

The Whiz Kid?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 30, 2008 11:32 PM CDT to parent up   1 recs

true dat

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 30, 2008 11:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rec

ha!

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2008 11:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dave

wasn’t he suppose to be good?

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2008 11:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

he was

until he decided to go for it and sent every prostect on earth to florida for a useless pitcher and a fat 3b/LF that cant play either of those spots.

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Jul 31, 2008 8:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

haaaaaaa

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 30, 2008 11:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wonder if he squats and surfs...

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 30, 2008 11:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ummm I don't

T M I Greenie

There is no status, except for me. Because I am who I am.

MILES

by LAMuscleFag on Jul 31, 2008 12:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I didn't say I did

I said I was wondering if JD did! HAHA.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+ 1 + - 1 = 0

+ 1 for it not being you

- 1 for you wondering what J D does on the toilet

I don’t want to hear about it unless J D pulls off a Tim Lincecum trade while doing it. :)

There is no status, except for me. Because I am who I am.

MILES

by LAMuscleFag on Jul 31, 2008 12:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

if we get lincecum I’ll wipe JD’s ass next time he takes a crap.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hahaha how kinky!!!

I LOVE IT!!

There is no status, except for me. Because I am who I am.

MILES

by LAMuscleFag on Jul 31, 2008 1:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe..

JD has having some trouble on the shitter and was yellling “Mayday!!”

by Jack Nicholson 1974 on Jul 30, 2008 11:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hope nobody mistakes it for Mayhay!

"I am not a never-nude" - Tobias Fünke

by jcAustin on Jul 31, 2008 8:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Callis

His Q&A is members only. Anything I need to know?

by Topgun22 on Jul 30, 2008 11:24 PM CDT   0 recs

re:
Josh from new York: Jim: I have seriously asked this question to everyone at ESPN and no one has answered it. What happens with all of the catchers in Texas?

SportsNation Jim Callis: I think Taylor Teagarden has the best all-around tools and emerges as the starter. Laird is arbitration-eligible again and there are teams who need catchers, so maybe they trade him this offseason. That leaves them still needing to figure out what to do with Saltalamacchia and Ramirez.

Zach (NY): Wilmer Flores or Elvis Andrus?

SportsNation Jim Callis: Andrus.

That’s it, Rangers related, I believe.

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2008 11:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Gracias..

from one Longhorn to another.

by Topgun22 on Jul 30, 2008 11:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Craig (Dallas): Max Ramirez or Jarrod Saltalamacchia?

SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:50 PM ET ) Salty.

This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC

by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice trade tonight

Gunning for me big time.

The last two months are gonna be epic.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2008 2:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yea

I decided to go all in. Espn auto drafted the first 17 rounds for me so I wasn’t really set up to have 5 good keepers anyway. Figured it was now or never.

This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC

by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 11:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i just drafted poorly, i can’t use espn as an excuse for my team sucking unfortunately

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Aug 1, 2008 9:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

BTW.....

somebody was talking about Shoppach going 5-5 earlier….. He came up in the 12th with the bases loaded and nobody out and struck out. Then big time bust Andy Marte GIDP.. to the 13th we go….

by AirJordan on Jul 30, 2008 11:27 PM CDT   0 recs

Evan Grant game writeup

http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/07/rangers-4-mariners-3.html

Good write up from Evan on tonights game. The comments from Mike are really good to hear. seems like everybody’s finally on the same page.

“I don’t really care about the trading deadline,” he said. “It has nothing to do with how well we’ve played or how much confidence we have in ourselves. I’m confident that everybody associated with this organization has the best interests of the team at heart. I don’t think we have to do anything. If the right deal comes along, I’m sure we’ll look at it. But I don’t think anybody in this clubhouse will have any hard feelings if a deal isn’t made. We’re confident in ourselves.”

by 6th street on Jul 30, 2008 11:31 PM CDT   0 recs

this is why

Mike is the FOTF… Truely a classy guy who leads not with boisterious words but with heady and tough actions

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2008 1:08 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

love that quote

and also think this is a subtle difference between when Tex was here and now. I think Tex was promoting a different (win now) mindset. Also, JD has done a good job communicating the plan to the players and managers. The future looks bright….. if we could only get some pitching.

"I am not a never-nude" - Tobias Fünke

by jcAustin on Jul 31, 2008 8:55 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

BBTN quick!

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2008 11:33 PM CDT   0 recs

poooor farnsworth

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2008 11:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Upper Decker

Richard Durrett of the DMN blog titled a post “Upper Decker” after Josh’s home run. Do you think he was referring to where the ball landed, or the Urban Dictionary definition?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=upper+decker

by 6th street on Jul 30, 2008 11:39 PM CDT   0 recs

Good grief

I learn something new everyday.

I sincerely hope he was talking about where Ham’s HR landed. Otherwise, somebody check the press box bathrooms.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Chris Davis reminds me that I'm a woman as well as a baseball fan."

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 30, 2008 11:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

oh did it land already?

There is no status, except for me. Because I am who I am.

MILES

by LAMuscleFag on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Adam Dunn, anyone?

Seems like the interest in Adam Dunn has been pretty dim so far. If you believe the rumor mill, the only real interest has come from TB, and they aren’t even on him that hard.

Anyone have any Interest in adding him to split time at LF/DH with Milton if the price is right?

Normally I’d be against adding a rental, even if we are only 4.5 games back of the WC, but the price on Dunn might be pretty low, and worst case scenario is we lose him for two DP’s at the end of the season.

Seems like maybe we could put something together on par with the Carlos Lee deal to get him.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 30, 2008 11:40 PM CDT   0 recs

i dunno

The Reds seem to love him and they know his actual value. Not Steve Phillips value, but his real sabermetric value. The Reds have given up guys like Willy Mo, Hamilton, Kearns with relative ease. I don’t think that will be the same when it comes to Dunn. They probably want a lot for him, even with him being a FA at the end of the year…

(okay, i admit, i got the basic answer to this question from Max)

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2008 11:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I have problems with that.

- I don’t think Milton will be healthy enough this year to split time in the OF with anyone.
- Adam Dunn playing LF in our ballpark scares me quite a bit. Especially if he has to do it regularly.
- We’d still have to give up quite a bit. The Chad Tracy offer seems like a starting offer more than anything. I have a tough time believing that Dunn is worth that little.
- Another LH bat? Eh.

by LiamP on Jul 30, 2008 11:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Concur...

Pass.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 30, 2008 11:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

gagree

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2008 11:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I understand

I was thinking Milton out there once every four days or so, maybe. Also Milton needs days off every once in a while anyways, so Dunn could DH those days as well.
The defense scares the jeebus outta me, too. He’s like Carlos Lee, but with a little more hustle and a little less arm. His arm is nigh Johnny Damon-bad. Seriously.
- I was thinking something like Franky Cat, Julio Borbon, Andrew Laughter and their pick of Matt Harrison or Omar Poveda. That might be comically low, I don’t know. Probably it is. You’d probably have to take Laughter and turn him into a more B-level prospect to make it viable on their end. (Kiker? Neil Ramirez? JMJ?) But who would you rather have this winter for Dunn if you’re Cincy: Cat, Borbon a B prospect and Harrison, or two draft picks, one of which might or might not be a first rounder? I guess it depends what other are offering, especially TB.
- His Left Handedness doesn’t scare me. Kinser/Young/Hambone/Milton/Dunn/Byrd or Murphy/Chris Davis might be the best first seven, like, ever.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Jul 30, 2008 11:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

dirkatron,

I was thinking something like Franky Cat, Julio Borbon, Andrew Laughter and their pick of Matt Harrison or Omar Poveda.

are you crazy? Why would the Rangers be buyers of a rental player? And with our low K pitching he’d probably cost a