Trade talk
by AirJordan on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM CDT
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/story/727881.html
The Rangers have asked about pitcher Zack Greinke and appear willing to part with multiple prospects in return.
Yeah, I've been up since 6:00 AM awaiting some juicy rumors and this is the closest thing I can find relating to the Rangers... So if you want to vent about the lack of activity so far go ahead...... or talk about JD obviously reading LSB by stealing the Grienke idea go ahead...
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okay
something better happen now.
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Greinke
How long would we control him for? You would have to think the deal would include Salty and something else…
by baylorbear82 on Jul 31, 2008 9:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2 years and 2 months.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the idea of trading multiple high tier prospects
for 2 season a greinke makes me kinda throw up in my mouth a little bit.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, its a long way off but you do have to consider the draft picks.
of course, with our luck hed probably suck, get injured and not get us any draft picks.
and yeah.. hes had a 5.22 era in july, a 5.25 era in june, and a 4.38 era in may, and obviously was awesome in april.. you have to be careful what you give up for 2 years of him. hes good, but hes not THAT good.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
f the draft picks
if we trade for a pitcher like that, we try like hell to extend him.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"hes had a 5.22 era in july, a 5.25 era in june, and a 4.38 era in may"
well maybe he will fit right in then.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greinke
is totally overhyped around here. I wonder if we can have him either straight up for Salty, or for Salty and someone like Mayberry Jr.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Draft picks are very overrated
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
greinke
well, it would qualify as trying to help the team win this year if the clubhouse is still clinging to that.
id give up salty and one of the A ball pitchers, but feliz has to be untouchable.
if we found a way to get greinke without giving up feliz or davis, and also got something decent for laird, id consider this a successful trade deadline.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
although
if we gave up salty in a greinke deal we wouldnt be giving up laird, at least not with tea in the olympics and max hurt.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did I miss it?
Max is hurt?
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
by tricer on Jul 31, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he left last night's game
with a hip flexor or something like that. I have no idea how serious it is or now long he will be out.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah no detail on the extent of it...
But it was a hip flexor.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feliz and Davis.
I would imagine that both are off limits in any trade that doesn’t involve a young pitcher under team control for many seasons. I’d like to have Greinke, but not at the expense of either Davis or Feliz.
by Athos on Jul 31, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
i just remember the trade suggestions for him in april when he had a 1.25 era and how much everyone was thinking it would take to get him.. but things have changed since then. realized how much servie time he has, and hes dropped off.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD has made a huge trade
each year he’s been here, i don’t see this year being any different.
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 9:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that is true
he does know how to pull off the big one.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rhodes
has been dealt for Gaby Hernandez. that is a pretty solid return for three months of a loogy. the price has now been set for Steady Eddie.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
woulda given up Every other Day Eddie for him
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Jul 31, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
same. rangers seem to be overvaluing eddie and his mentoring. maybe chiti and connor should be better at doing their job.
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent point
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
That’s really splitting hairs.
“Guys, you know the rules. No talking in the bullpen…”
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 31, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember we heard that about Gagne also
with regard to CJ. And note how CJ looks like he is in dire need of mentorship.
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mentor
Earlier in the season, Eddie was mentoring CJ (or so it was told). Two lefty closers…
Last night, TAG mentions Eddie’s role as a mentor, but he talks about FX2. No mention of CJ. no one wants to be the mentor of a guy that’s struggling.
by Oracle Galvez on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mariners
Great deal by them. With players of minimal value like Rhodes I would definitely prefer quality of quantity.
The Mariners get back a 22 year old RHP SP who projects as a #4. Much better than two more months of Rhodes when you aren’t contending and won’t get a draft pick.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's rec this
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rhodes to Marlins broke about 5 mins ago.
Gaby Hernandez is the return from Florida.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you mean
right here on LSB, about three posts above this? Just joking with ya.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha yeah I just saw that.
Sorry dude, didn’t mean to try to overshadow your trade-breaking brilliance… lol jk.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well you're a longhorn
i am obligated to bust balls now and then.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough... haha.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grienke doesn't interest me for the reported cost
Multiple top prospects… umm no.
by bstair on Jul 31, 2008 10:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd have to disagree
Greinke is the top-of-the-rotation guy this team needs. It may not get us over the hump this year but it definitely helps us in the long run
The Eagle has landed....
by Lonerangers on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a 3.98 ERA in KC
And all sorts of mental/emotional/maturity issues.
No,thanks.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739
by BudLight on Jul 31, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
honest question
is KC a hitter or pitchers park?
The Eagle has landed....
by Lonerangers on Jul 31, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it gets tiresome
hearing people slam Greinke for his “mental” stability…
If anyone here has dealt with depression (the kind where you see a counselor and take meds) they will understand what he was going through. they will also understand how depression is absolutely beatable and your life gets sooooo much better after dealing with it. He’s past it and learned from it. Give him a break.
And my perception now is that there are a whole lot of people out there that are depressed and need to get some help to make themselves happier and enjoy life.
"For those booing me. Take that, beeep." - Ramon Vazquez
by 8legs2fangs on Jul 31, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
there may be reasons to not trade for Greinke (costs too much, free agent too soon), but his depression issues are certainly not one of them.
I’d imagine that a significant number of baseball players are treated for depression, etc (I’d even guess at a higher rate than the rest of the population). Greinke was an extreme case, sure, but that doesn’t make his issues something to worry about.
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have to disagree with you.
I just don’t think Greinke is an ace caliber pitcher. He is a solid #3 definitely, probably a decent #2, but not an ace.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't
necessarily mean he would be an ace. He would be on this team, but after looking at some of his home/road splits I may have been overvaluing him a tad.
The Eagle has landed....
by Lonerangers on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah ok.
Fair enough. Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying slightly then.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Grienke but ...
there is little if any incentive for KC to trade Grienke for prospects right now. That’s why I don’t see Grienke being traded unless someone blows KC away with a young stud at first or 3rd. That’s just not a price I think the Rangers are willing to pay.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not significant, but MLBTR
says the marlins are still looking for a catcher. id assume so, but good to see another mention anyway.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 10:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Have to agree ...
there is just too much we have yet to find out about our best young prospects … and I’m tired of seeing them go elsewhere only to tunrn out the way we’d hoped they would with us. No to Davis, Feliz, Hurley, Hunter, Teagarden, Maximus, Andrus, Beltre, Holland, et.al.
Salty, Diamond, Kiker, Arias I would consider moving … in the right deal … but I’d rather do nothing than blow up the farm system.
Yea, though we play in the valley of the shadow of defeat, we shall fear no team ... 'cause Nolan says so !!
by FloridaRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not real sure if the Rangers make a move.
And I’m OK with standing pat.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why the shit
You guys are wanting to trade Salty. Hes just as young as alot of these “Untouchable” prospects.
He is going to develop into an awesome hitting catcher.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jul 31, 2008 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
because we have no pitching?
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Texas doesn't need him.
Sad to say, but when you look at the Rangers’ catching corps, he’s kind of the odd man out.
Laird is the “proven” commodity, the one that you know what you’re getting.
MaxRam is a better hitter than Salty.
Teagarden is a better defender than Salty.
Salty is an alright defender and could end up being a very good bat, but he is not great at anything.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're being too generous.
Salty is an alright defender and could end up being a very good bat, but he is not great at anything.
I wouldn’t describe his defensive play this season as “alright”. I think he’s a poor defender with the potential to be a good hitter. Right now, he’s not living up to the potential and I like our other catching options better. If he can be traded for a good pitcher, I think you make that move.
by Athos on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not anxious to deal him
I just don’t want to see him stuck behind Laird for the rest of the season. If you think he’s had a tough season so far, making him a backup is going to purely stunt his development, and I don’t want to see that happen to him. So if trading him is the only way he avoids that… then so be it.
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Danny Richar and Nick Masset
from the Sox to the Reds, still pending Griffey’s approval.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
17 pitches to the NL
That’ll shave .5 off his ERA :)
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do they
really plan on playing him in center? It doesn’t appear they have a good spot for him.
by BHill on Jul 31, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd think Swisher would play center
I can’t see Griff out there
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 31, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but where does that put Jr?
they have Quentin, Swisher, Dye, Thome, Konerko, and potentially Griffey to split up the outfield, 1B, and DH slots.
by BHill on Jul 31, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where will he play?
The only scenarios I see are benching Swisher and playing him in center (which he doesn’t have the range to do anymore, I’m sure)...
...or to bench Konerko and move someone to first (presumably either Thome or anyone else who’s willing to make the switch). But that certainly seems like a slap in the face to Konerko, the guy who really carried that franchise for a while earlier this decade.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read earlier on MLBTR and the ESPN trade blog...
that they expect to put him in the OF. Whether that is CF or RF is unclear.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you put him in the outfield...
...that means you’re benching either Swisher, Dye or Quentin. Swisher is the obvious choice, but then who plays center?
You can’t bench Dye, considering he’s probably your best all-around hitter this year (both avg. and power).
And benching Quentin at this point would be blasphemy, considering he’s leading the universe in homers.
And in a completely unrelated note, Carrie Underwood is super hot. Good lord, I haven’t seen her in a while, but golly gee willikers.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griffey approves trade
according to rosenthal on foxsports.com
by texasrfan on Jul 31, 2008 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Done deal then.
That will be interesting.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLBTR also acknowledges Rosenthal's report.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kenny Williams operates in mysterious ways
by Telegraph on Jul 31, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He operates by luck
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not convinced that he operates at all
by Telegraph on Jul 31, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey just
wait til his awesome 5th round pick kid makes it to the majors. Thatll show everyone haha jk
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's always so angry....
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I’m liking this Amy K. Nelson.
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
O, yes.
Is she doing commentary on ESPN?
You have any links, pass those along.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brewers
i still think we do a deal with them. they are going all in for this year and need help at catcher and a lefty reliever.
by sanangelofan on Jul 31, 2008 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
good point
they still have some intriguing guys on that farm.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn Rumors to TB for
Niemann or Hellickson. I can’t see how TB doesn’t trade for Dunn or Bay. They don’t need a reliever I imagine as they can just call up David Price this year.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
If you’re not figuring in Rhodes they don’t. Which you may be, just not sure.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rhodes...
he was traded to FLorida I thought, not TB.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ohhhh, you're right.
Sorry, got no sleep last night – getting my FL teams confused.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn for Niemann
Tampa Bay really needs to pull the trigger on something like this. Niemann is already 25 and projects to be nothing more than a #5 with injury history. They have a obvious pitching surplus and a need for hitting. When Carl Crawford is hitting in the 3 hole that should tell you something.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else hoping...
...that Manny Ramirez doesn’t get traded, and he has to sit in his own dookie for the rest of the season in Boston?
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i would love...
watching him jog to first on a doubleplay ball.
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in the playoffs....
Redsox fans heads may explode
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boston will not make the playoffs without him.
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let them flip
Manny somewhere and then we flip them Bradley. Obviously, not going to happen but im not a GM ha
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
couldnt happen even if they wanted him
he is too injured to play the field and papi is their DH….
plus he hurt himself again..
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if bradley is being shopped
it is being done extremely well….completely under the radar.
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think MB is being shopped too much...
that or there isn’t much interest. I say this because we haven’t heard any MB to TB rumors and they could play him at DH.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would anyone object...
...to a 3-year, $18 million deal for Board Game?
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Board Game might.
lol.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No...
but I think he’s going to want $10 Mill or so per year.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine...
...anyone object to 3 years, $30 mil?
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely not.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only,
if there are certain opt out clauses for the Rangers based upon games played or something to that effect.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
too much money for a guy that’s injured an awful damn lot. I’d rather watch Max or see if Cruz is for real than pay to clog up our DH position for the next three years. What happens when Smoak is ready also?
No thanks. I’ll take the draft picks.
by Hull Fan on Jul 31, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be fine with that
even if he only plays 130 games or so per year.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 31, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually wonder how much he'll get
because I get the feeling a lot of teams still think he’s a cancer in the clubhouse…so maybe he can be had at a discount.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he is really so happy
to have finally found a home in TX, then I would hope he would consider signing with us. because of his constant injuries, i would think he is worth about 8 million per for three years. not sure i would go over that.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I think negotiations open somewhere around 3 yrs/$23MM and you see where it goes from there...
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My prediction...
JD trades for Ron Mahay and thats it.
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
id be fine with that..if nothing sticks wait till winter with the catcher situation
by texasrfan on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be stupid
Mahay is in his 30’s, and we don’t need to give up any prospects for him. We need to be dealing the 30-year old reliever, not accquiring one.
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it boils down to....
Teams are not giving up prospects this year….there are very few trades that I wish we were in on (rhodes deal being the exception)
Its a buyers market…JD will see this, and will deal for Mahay for this year and next year for an average prospect….(arias or something like that)
JD will not trade Laird because he will not get a solid return for him.
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guardado for Mahay.
Do it. (Sarcasm)
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feliz for Mahay.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh even better.
I like it.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hart would have been all over that
by texasrfan on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So basically this deadline
could involve having Griffey, Dunn, Ramirez, and Tex all change teams? Much ado about nothing my ass ha. And i wouldnt be too upset if the Rangers just sat on the sidelines.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 10:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bah
Griffey and Manny are old farts. Manny still produces at least, and there would be a lot of players involved in that, but still… just meh. The Tex deal was underwhelming (I feel sorry for the Braves), leaving Dunn as the only true possible blockbuster out there.
Myself, I am going to be slighty pissed off if JD sits on his hands today – we’ve got several guys (Bradley, Padilla, Guardado, Laird) having seasons the likes of which they’ll likely never have again. Not trading even one of them would severely dissapoint me.
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ehh
Padilla had a better year for us in 2006 but he’s having a good year…I’d like to keep him though. I think Guardado and Laird should be traded though.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Padilla and Bradley
just won’t have the values on the open market that they would based solely on their performance because they have BAGGAGE. (that’s right, I dropped the caps on ya)
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the problem is...
teams that are selling are basically giving away their players…
JD will not do that with the team playing well. If he got a good trade offer, I think he would….but I have my doubts.
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on the returns so far
I will be happy is JD sits on his hands. This has been a buyers market this year and teams appear to be intent on holding on to their prospects. I would love a trade, but the rangers have a very specific need and it appears that no one is parting with young pitchers this year.
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Olney just said on ESPN
Konerko to the bench, Swisher to 1B, Griffey to CF.
That’s patently absurd. Griffey : CF :: Matt Kata : 3B.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 11:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Konerko
has been awful this year.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I understand that.
But that’s still a slap in the face to a guy who carried your franchise for a while. I mean, I understand benching Konerko because he HAS been terrible, but I don’t know.
And to do that in order to move Griffey to CF? Wow.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Latest from Rosenthal...
11: 42 a.m.: Marlins still after Laird
The Marlins are still pushing to acquire Rangers catcher Gerald Laird, but are unwilling to part with the major-league starting pitcher that the Rangers are seeking, according to a major-league source.
by texasrfan on Jul 31, 2008 11:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
heh we probably asked for volstad
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love me some volstad
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that JD is asking for one of Florida's starters haha
Josh Johnson, Ricky Nolasco, Andrew Miller…I’ll take any of em.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
compromise
Ryan Tucker? Vandenhurk and another prospect (Winters? )
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll do that!
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about anibel sanchez??
how good is he compared to the other Marlin’s pitchers??
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by hinduplaya on Jul 31, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
He has shoulder issues which are always scary. I would rank them A. Miller, J. Johnson, Volstad, Sanchez, Sinkbeil & Tucker in that order.
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by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot about Nolasco
I would slot him between Volstad and Sanchez
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by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
ive been clamoring for this them to be trade partners for a while now. Olsen, nolasco, miller (injured though), johnson, volstad, tucker, vandenhurk, sanchez, etc. I think they have starting pitching to trade, quality young starting pitching.
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by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Marlins
are going for it might as well dive head in. If they are trading for Ramirez might as well make one more deal to improve another weakness.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats 8 young ml ready starting pitchers
plus they have some nice young pitching prospects in sean west, aaron thompson, brett sinkbeil, etc. of the top of my head, but no real young catching to think of other than skipworth who is years away if he can even stay behind the plate (there were a few people who questioned he would stick there before the draft). Plus its not exactly like laird would be a rental. This is one of those fits that are too good to be true.
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by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I LOVE the
stance that JD seems to be taking. I feel much more confident with his ability to make trades then i did a few yrs back. OBVIOUSLY!
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we are all getting the feeling that JD isn't going to make a trade just to make a trade...
he wants quality pitching in return. Holding out this long…maybe it’ll work.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could JD turn this Manny thing into a four team deal?
of course, that would absolutely collapse it. Three team deals are rare enough.
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OFs
Between Cat, Byrd, and Cruz, doesn’t one of them pretty much have to go?
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Cruz isn't traded
he will be called up….otherwise it just doesn’t make any sense.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cruz
He isn’t on the 40, thus the July 31 deadline means nothing.
He can be traded at anytime.
by Oracle Galvez on Jul 31, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is true
he might be an August 1st fallback option for a lot of teams.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a hard time believing
that a contender picks up Cruz. It really doesn’t make any sense. If you want a bench player, you want a vet, like Cat. If you want a starter, a contender can’t live with “giving the last chance” to a AAAA player.
After the phones cool down this afternoon, JD & company sit down and decide what they want to do with Cruz. Allowing him to complete the AAA season and become a free agent seems the least likely. More likely would be a trade or a call-up to Texas. Maybe other deals earlier in the day make the choice obvious.
If he’s to be traded, I’d think it would be to a team out of the race. A last place team that has a hole or two in the outfield. Someone that could give a AAAA player one last try. In trade: The return wouldn’t crack Dirk’s midseason poll even if he takes it to 50.
by Oracle Galvez on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"The Twins would like to trade Boof Bonser to make room for Francisco Liriano. The Giants and Rangers might be interested."
No!
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1!!!!!!!
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God
I thought the Boof thing was killed when Blalock went down. I hate that fatass Boof…
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ehhh..
I think trading Drew Meyer would be fair :-) ha
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t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or Vazquez
Call 1-800-DOCTORB. The B is for bargain!
by Panorama on Jul 31, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its no exactly like we are busting with starting pitchers
if you can get him on the cheap, I say absolutely go for it. After all, now that hunter is up, who else we got? Millwood and hurley get hurt every time they go out to the mound, feldman and even hunter need to slow down as they have both already exceeded their single season high innings pitched and should be moved to the pen, and mendoza may not be far behind the way he struggles multiple times through the order. If you can get him for next to nothing it is a steal, besides he was once highly regarded and maybe connor can turn him around… ok sorry even I couldnt hold my laughter on that one.
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by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if its for something like Cat, i wouldnt hate giving him a look
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
he had a very solid minor league career. Worth trying to revive him although nobody here seems to have faith in our pitching coaches…I’d do ti for someone like Cat or Byrd
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins and Bonser
The Twins are trying to unload him. His value is way down but he is a solid fastball, curveball guy who could use some time in the pen to regroup. How cheap is he? Arias cheap?
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From MJH:
Woah…If this were true!!!
What’s interesting about that situation is that one of the sticking points seems to be the Marlins refusal to add Ryan Tucker to the deal. And it would not surprise me one bit if Jon Daniels has made it crystal clear to Florida that any deal for Laird must involve Tucker.Could it be that Florida is holding Tucker back to close a last-minute deal with Texas?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
is he referring
to the Manny situation?
The Eagle has landed....
by Lonerangers on Jul 31, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
Laird to Florida is one of my last hopes…
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that from the DMN Blog?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
::cue tucker inclusion to manny trade news::
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tucker is a nice dream
but i gotta think JD is negotiating a bit here. Either that, or he is being a bit unreasonable.
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by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teams get desperate though so we'll see...
Laird is definitely the best catcher available.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im sure he is asking a ton
he has all the leverage right now and florida is in dire need of a catcher and have a ridiculous surplus of young pitching.
What really is telling is the comment that maybe they are holding off trading tucker cause they would include him in a deal for laird. I have seen in multiple places that they were talking about maybe moving him, but that nothing was set yet. In fact I kept seeing that they were not going to move him for ramirez, so read between the lines?
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by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Per Heymann
Manny has signed the paperwork to agree to a trade to the Marlins, in exchange for the Marlins canceling the two team options. So that step has been completed.
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ian Snell
Don’t know how we would match up but I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s acquired by the Rangers today.
by AirJordan on Jul 31, 2008 11:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MLBTR
said the Mets were looking at him too…to be a reliever for them this year.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting...
I think he would be in the rotation here, no?
by AirJordan on Jul 31, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they did give up on ollie perez to early
just saying. Though snell has been g-d-awful. Have him on my fantasy team and it kills me to start him, but injuries have decimated my starting rotation.
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by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard something
About the Mets looking to accquire him and stick him in the bullpen…
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How would you rank tucker on the list of florida pitchers?
I have to confess he is probably the one I know the least about other than vanderhurk.
I assume he is behind miller, sanchez, volstad, olsen and johnson and right around nolasco, before he went on a tear this season.
Anyone have any info on him?
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by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he has a great fastball
and put up sick numbers in AA. He needs more time in the minors to work on his secondary stuff, but he would either be a front line starter or late inning guy, depending on his secondary stuff coming along.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here:
4 2 1.38 13 12 0 0 0 72.0 51 12 11 2 28 62 0.90 .194
Damn good numbers.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome thanks
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tucker
John Sickels had him at #2 this year, grade B…
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he's got a great arm
fastball in the mid-90’s, can reach 98 apparently. He was obviously rushed to the big leagues this year after dominating AA. I’d love to have him in our system…And he’s only 22.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If JD nets Tucker, I will be happy
Giddy, even.
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't tucker only 21?
Fastball Fastball guy with average change. I would say late inning arm unless he develops a third pitch.
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by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As you say only 21
Still room for improvement. And at this point, a future closer or setupman would probably be a very good return for Laird.
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hunter
Can anyone see us trading for a low ceiling guy like Bonser to avoid starting Hunter tomorrow? Granted, that’s not the sole reason, but If the price wasn’t prohibitive I’d be for it. Hunter has logged a lot of innings already, and I don’t want to start his options any sooner than we have to.
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by TheBZA on Jul 31, 2008 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe even..
if we aquire a young starter (Tucker) that can take his place.
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Hunter is more ML ready than Tucker.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But tucker....
has already pitched in the majors …..dosen’t that mean that his MLB clock is now already ticking?
we could avoid adding Hunter to the 40.
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
but there is a lot of fat that we can skim off the 40 at the end of the year.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not as much as you think
With all the 40 man rules and if we resign Bradley we will only have a few positions available for all our rule 5 guys and potential FAs
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
After this deadline there may be some room on the 40 for Hunter.
I think his options situation is zero issue.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 31, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what about the IP issue?
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Jul 31, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
i dont think anyone is worried right now about his options being a big deal.
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by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am
With the amount of young pitchers and the fact that he profiles as no more than a solid back of the rotation guy I don’t want to be in a Robinson Tejeda type situation in 3 years with him.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 31, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm concerned about the almost 150 IP this year
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hunter
If anything he fills in for Hurley, and at worst stays in the rotation until BMac joins.
Then, he’s in the bullpen. Possibly the OKC bullpen (though he seems deserving of the ML time as a reward).
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boof pitched for three innings yesterday.
So starting on friday maybe a stretch unless the rangers only expect him to go for three innings or so.
Had 3ER on 3 Hits, 2BB and 3 SO.
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
i said something along those lines in an earlier post, besides the obvious 40 and 25 man issues, hunter has logged a career high single season innings pitched and would be looking at a move to the bullpen along with feldman at some point very soon. The fact of the matter is unless guys like millwood, hurley, and bmac get healthy soon, we are going to have some issues very soon on who to march out to the mound.
Heck unless jennings gets healthy soon, we may be looking at madrigal in the 5th spot. (check the sig before replying)
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by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pirates
have a pretty great hitting catcher in Doumit, but I have heard he is very poor defensively. if they are looking to upgrade, would you trade Teagarden for Snell?
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 11:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah,
I think TeaBag is the keeper.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
thank you. I really feel that ultimately Teagarden is the long term answer behind the plate for the Rangers.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't get
the love for Teagarden. his bat this year in AAA has really scared me off. he has an 83 birthday, so he really needs that bat to come on quick.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason
I like him so much is his defensive value behind the plate. With how the Rangers are structured they can afford to have a “light-hitting” catcher. That being said I think Teagarden is a .230-.250 hitter with 20-25 HRs per yr. He also works more than his fair share of walks. I picture him as a 8 or 9 hole for the Rangers. With lineup that could feature kinsler, young, hamilton, davis (maybe a move to the OF when Smoak arrives), ramirez, smoak (2 yrs hopefully) I would be comfortable with that type of hitting catcher. I know you must have seen the difference in the presence that Teagarden provided behind the plate as opposed to Salty or Ramirez.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not
just keep Laird then? You know what you have with him…
by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 31, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upgrade?
Doumit is a top 3 offensive catcher…
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should have clarified
they have a gaping hole at 1B, and he could be moved there.
by clark on Jul 31, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good call about that
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Snell.
But if it costs the Rangers a serious piece or two, pass.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I was high on him last year, but what is the deal with pittsburgh’s young pitching? First Duke, then gorzelanny, then snell. Is malholm going to blow up after this year too?
First they all get injured and blow out their arm, now they flame out after one or a little less than one good year.
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by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD
he shouldn’t hold out on a just major league starter for Laird. If you can get Tucker straight up for Laird, you do that in a millisecond.
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If JD pulls this off...it would be sick...
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that is probably where JD is going...
But if you look like you will only Porshe….then they will be giddy when you decide to take the BMW instead.
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get hopes up
don’t get hopes up
repeat after me
don’t get hopes up
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know
But I kinda like having my hopes up right now. It’s fun, and it doesn’t happen all that often.
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You shut up
football head!!!
;)
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't make me cross the streams
:-)
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
dont be surprised if you see florida give up a low level prospect in additional to any pitcher we get if we do trade with them. Not trying to sound greedy, but if you look at trading track records, ml players are not usually traded straight up for prospects, especially ones that arent rentals. Also, JD is notorious for tacking on a low level arm in his deals. Just saying.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Per Ken Rosenthal
“The Marlins are still pushing to acquire Rangers catcher Gerald Laird, but are unwilling to part with the major-league starting pitcher that the Rangers are seeking, according to a major-league source.”
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to guess
the sticking point on a FLA trade is that JD is demanding Matt Dominguez in the deal; they probably already have agreed on the pitching prospect…
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever it is
I couldnt have chosen a better trade partner for the Rangers. I really like the possibility of getting some young pitching from the Marlins.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting theory
I think JD would rather get MLB ready SP though. Dominguez is a long way away from MLB.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he is saying
in addition to the pitching prospect, i.e. the hangup being that second player I was mentioning earlier. No way we get tucker (or pitcher of his ilk) and dominguez though. That would be absolutely insane.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Tucker
just looked him up on minor league page it looks like he sat out for a bit anybody know if he was injured or was he with the big club.
by mai on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Info
7. Ryan Tucker, RHP
DOB: 12/6/86
Height/Weight: 6-2/190
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted: 1st round, 2005, Temple City HS (CA)
2007 Stats: 3.71 ERA at High-A (138.1-142-46-104)
Year In Review: The best pure arm in the system continued to frustrate the organization, this time with a so-so showing at High-A Jupiter.
The Good: Tucker gets excellent leg drive and consistently pumps out mid-90s gas, touching 98 at times. He has a remarkably quick arm and a powerful frame that allows his fastball to park at those velocities throughout the game. His command has improved dramatically since signing, and he earns high praise for his makeup.
The Bad: Tucker’s secondary offerings still lag well behind his fastball, as his slider tends to flatten out more often than not, and his changeup is rudimentary. Many wonder if he could be far more effective in a bullpen role, believing that he could sit at 97-98 mph if he only had to throw 15-20 pitches per outing.
Fun Fact: Tucker made just eight of his 24 starts at home, but had a 2.13 ERA in those outings.
Perfect World Projection: For now, the Marlins will keep him as a starter, knowing that significant innings are required for Tucker to work on his off-speed pitches. If those come around, he has more potential than many pitchers above him. If not, he’s bullpen-bound.
Timetable: Tucker will begin 2008 in the Double-A rotation, and everyone will know more about his future role by the end of the year.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds kinda like a Neftali Feliz starter kit
Don’t he?
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he certainly has the raw talent...
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
technically further along than feliz
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but he got rushed
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beau Jones
from the right side?
The Eagle has landed....
by Lonerangers on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking
he could possibly be a closer of the future type.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
per carroll
“Will Carroll has an update. The Pirates could back out Bay talks entirely if they don’t get what they want. The Red Sox will continue shopping Manny regardless, with the Dodgers and a mystery team in the mix. The Dodgers might be willing to part with Matt Kemp.”
If the mystery team is Texas, I’m gonna kill someone!
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JD does keep all of his trades on the hush hush
we will see if/what role we may be playing in this.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who would we
possibly offer if we are the “mystery team”? Byrd? Boggs? I mean it seems rather clear that they want an OFer in return.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
those two i mentioned
as part of a bigger deal of course
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as it is at least a three team deal
I could see Texas filling in prospects/ OF’s to make a deal work, wouldn’t be the major partner, just a facilitator.
Don’t really think that it is us however.
But JD does keep his trades quieter than most GM’s in seems.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But....But....But...
It’s Manny! Seriously though, No way it’s Texas….. I can see it being the Dbacks.
by AirJordan on Jul 31, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what if the deadline approaches
and they really just want him off the team due to all the distractions? At that point everyone has kind of backed off the whole ramirez deal and we can get him relatively cheap? At worst you get draft picks, at best you have a hall of fame hitter and cripple the wildcard leader in the process.
Obviously that is highly unlikely, but that would be a scenario you could get on board with, no?
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be funny
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mystery Team
The other option is that the Marlins – Red Sox still deal, with Texas providing the piece that goes to Boston.
Boston: Manny to Florida
Texas: Bradley to Boston, Laird to Florida
Florida: Tucker, Volstad, Matt Dominguez to Texas. (something like that)
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley can't field
everyday so explain how that’s going to work…
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
shh
split the dh spot with him and ortiz and lighten their load a bit, with bradley getting a little time in the outfield like he did with us. It could happen, him playing the of, not the deal. That is a nice pipe dream though.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but at least he can stand out there
Bradley… not so much.
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy shite
that would be a sweet deal
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They don't trade Manny
to a team that is 4.5 behind them in the wildcard and has six games remaining against them this year.
by robert_d_wilfong on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the people over at MLBtraderumors
do a good job updating. Bravo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXWLfIgc0nA
by mchang4 on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I emailed them the MJH article :)
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
They look like they’ve been preparing for this all year…
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I love the firefox refresh every option.
I even like it better that I do not have to use it here.
I keep trying to z thru comments on other message boards.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some Reds fan on MLBTR
left this comment:
“O please Marlins get Laird so the Reds don’t make that mistake. I WANT SALTALAMACCHIA!!!”
LOL
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha!
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Well, at least somebody besides me is still excited about Salty…
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are a few of us
just in the minority though
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we
would all be a lot more excited if we didnt have Teagarden and Ramirez.
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Jul 31, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn it
My professor is going to be pissed when he finds out that I have done nothing today except readjusting the axis on a couple of plots and hitting the refresh button a thousand times.
by Telegraph on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
refresh?
you are living in lsb 1.0
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Firefox refresh every option
It is your friend
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tea in the olympics
max hurt.
starting catcher?
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who cares
If we can get those guys ill let cruz catch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXWLfIgc0nA
by mchang4 on Jul 31, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rangers catcher?
melhuse!
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun fact
Melhuse got picked up by the Rockies, and is with their AAA team – he crushed a couple homers against the Redhawks here recently.
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLBTR
I wish they had a better mobile version. I’m about to have to leave until past the deadline…..
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Jul 31, 2008 11:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sucks for you!
I have a closing this afternoon, luckily I don’t have to be there…
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I just checked it. It doesn’t load the side bar like it used to (LSB does the same thing). Just a few images and the headlines. I can make that work.
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Jul 31, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah me too
I gotta go to work… and I don’t have a cell phone. :(
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it looks good on an iphone
what u got?
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sony Ericsson
Which has a browser, but nothing nearly as good as an Iphone. It seems like the new layout is a lot better for mobile though.
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Jul 31, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
well, wait till the Xperia X1 comes out…
That’s going to be rather nasty.
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blackberry
THUNDER!!!
The Eagle has landed....
by Lonerangers on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha!
It appears some of the stores selling that model dirt cheap have been shut down. Huh? lol
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny deal
“close to dead” Per Gammons.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3512835&name=mlb_trade_deadline
by AirJordan on Jul 31, 2008 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Boston’s going to implode now.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this should be fun to watch :)
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yawn
Gammons is just a tool of Red Sox management. This means that Theo wants Florida and Pittsburgh to panic and up their parts of the deal
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
makes it easier to get things from florida/bosox for a catcher
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not nec. so for florida
maybe now they just decide they don’t want to bother making any moves.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love JD
The eerie quietness coming out of Arlington is great. Everyone in the country knows that JD holds the pieces other teams want, but they can’t get any info out of him at all, so we just get leaks out of other organizations. You can tell that the Gammons, Starks, and Olneys hate the Rangers for that reason…
He’s demanding Bailey or Tucker for Laird… and he’ll stick to his guns like he did with Boston last year. Even if nothing gets done, Jon Daniels is a beast at the deadline…
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and one thing is for sure
if a trade happens, the first impression?...we are going to love it. (CY, AG trade is and will always will Buck driven)
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
always *be
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My first impressions of JD have been mixed
I loved the Tex deal the instant it hit (as with the Lofton deal)
I was disappointed at first with the Gagne deal, but only that Gagne’s market wasn’t bigger
The AG-CY trade confused me at the time and made me sad, though I didn’t hate it instantly.
I instantly liked the Hamilton-Volquez deal.
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Blue Jays want to compete
but they’re 6.5 games out of the WC, we’re only 4.5
According to ESPN’s Jayson Stark, the Blue Jays have entered the mix for Jason Bay. Of course, the asking price will be high. But Bay is Canadian!
The Jays are 6.5 games out of the wild card, that dangerous area where a team thinks it’s a contender. Bay is under contract for ‘09 too though.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Jays aren't contenders.
Their pitching is pretty good, but their offense pretty much stinks.
Then again, by that logic, the Rangers aren’t contenders. On the reverse, of course.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hank Blalock for Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell
Didnt I hear that a few days ago? Or was it years?
by SaltyGoesYard on Jul 31, 2008 11:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and john danks
we tried to offer diamond at best. Boy wouldnt that have been a nice deal. To bad they wanted hanley the whole time. At least you cant deny florida knows which prospects to go after.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we had thrown in Danks, Diamond and Blalock
it gets done.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should trade for Chalmers
Just having him on the bench in a Ranger uniform would raise our clutch factor by minimum 225%
by SaltyGoesYard on Jul 31, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow - just read this on ESPN's blog:
The Rangers had a surplus of catching for them to try to make a deadline deal, but they haven’t received an offer strong enough to persuade them to part with Gerald Laird. Barring a last-minute change of heart, they’ll keep Laird and try to move him this winter. With Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Max Ramirez and Taylor Teagarden in the system, Laird is an extravagance for Texas now that he’s eligible for salary arbitration.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Until the deadline passes....
That could easily be what JD said to try to get the marlin to bite his hook
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While it would be great to deal Laird today...
I like that JD is driving a hard bargain. The fact that he won’t settle for a lesser deal just to do something is good. He’ll have more opportunities for a quality trade during the winter if he doesn’t find one today.
by racecarr on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm of the opinion that we need to trade a catcher
Personally, I would prefer it to be Laird, but rationally, I really don’t care whether it’s Salty or Laird, just so long as the return is resonably good. I don’t want to see Salty stuck in the backup role for the rest of the season – I think it would kill his development.
If JD’s trying to trade Laird to FLA, I really don’t see that he could come up with a “bad” return for him there – just settle for whichever starting pitcher they give you, and you’ll have done ok.
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crasnick = Captain obvious
If they received such an offer, the trade would have been made already
by Telegraph on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perfect
Look we need to move one of our catchers. But not unless we get sufficient return. Teagarden is at the Olympics and pretty much gone for the year. he will be back sometime in September when rosters have expanded. Max is supposedly hurt now. Plus he could use the next month in the minors to work on things. Laird and Salty can platoon for the next month while we are still technically in the WC race.
One needs to be gone before we break camp next year but it is not imperative to trade one now. And if we trade one now it better be for a good return not just to unload a player. We are in the position of strength.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 31, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Grienke
but is there any chance we could get Bannister?? And what would it take??
"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno
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by hinduplaya on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would we want Bannister?
We got a ton of Bannisters.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can easily say
that he is more talented than any of the pitchers we have in our rotation right now
"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno
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by hinduplaya on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh
Bannister is 30 out of 32 in ERA in the AL. He didn’t make the big leagues till 27 and is 28 this year. He has average/below average stuff. 1.5 WHIP. I could go deeper but I’m lazy.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny just agreed to a trade to FLA
Waived his no-trade, which isn’t necessarily shocking.
This is per ESPN, btw.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I should clarify.
A deal isn’t done. But should a deal be reached, he’s agreed to it.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a tad slow
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe GB is considering trading Favre
to Chicago or Minnesota.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't
believe they are willing to pay him 20 million NOT to play
The Eagle has landed....
by Lonerangers on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Favre is traded to Minn
they’re right there with Dallas imo.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they already are.
And by that I mean Dal over Min in the NFC Title game.
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Good O-Line, a top 3 RB, a few decent receivers…the Vikes become instant contenders.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The running game
Will carry them, but that defense is just nasty. Top Rushing Defense last year, and they added Jared Allen. They’ve been lacking a pass rushing DE for years.
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But there pass defense isn't very good
I can’t see them keeping up with TO and Witten for four quarters
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by hinduplaya on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why
I said the Cowboys would win.
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah
got ya
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by hinduplaya on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
A true pass rusher like Allen helps the DBs. They’ve never had help like that before.
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They've got one corner, Winfield
And not much depth. Griffin’s overrated.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739
by BudLight on Jul 31, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd put LT at 1
and AP at 1a.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think GB
will trade him to a NFC team just because what if Farve comes into Lambeau and beats them in the playoffs? What kind of message are you sending to your fan base. I think they take the Kevin Garnett route and trade him to the other conference….
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by hinduplaya on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are trying to
The Jets and Bucs aren’t biting, and it looks like they’re the only Non-Conference teams interested.
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i could see a team like Baltimore
making a run at him as they still have a very good defense and some solid playmakers on offense.
Plus, it would give Flacco a year to learn the system
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by hinduplaya on Jul 31, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno
Favre had a fluky year last year, the couple years before that he was horrible. I think wherever Favre ends up, that team might actually take a step back.
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre
Two years ago he didn’t have anyone to work with. Lets not forget the Packers have basically completely rebuilt their team in the last 2-3 years. Even last year he was working with a rookie RB, other than Driver mainly rookie and 2nd year recievers, and a bunch of 2nd year lineman. Favre may not have put up great numbers but he wasn’t exactly given a bunch to work with either.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 31, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't mind football talk on this blog
but this thread is going to fill up quick if we get into favre discussions
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
per Rosenthal:
“The Marlins are still pushing to acquire Rangers catcher Gerald Laird, but the teams have been unable to agree on which of the Marlins starting pitchers the Rangers would receive, according to major-league sources.”
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
by lisa w on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
keep working JD
you’ve done well so far
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by hinduplaya on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interetsing....
seems we may get a starter off their ML team
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Work it JD!
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"which of the Marlins starting pitchers"
given that all of them are better than any of ours…
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I reading too much into this?
"The Marlins are still pushing to acquire Rangers catcher Gerald Laird, but the teams have been unable to agree on which of the Marlins starting pitchers the Rangers would receive, according to major-league sources."
This really seems like a change of language to me.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's a big change
everyone knows JD wants pitching. so now they are discussing which ones florida could give texas. if they aren’t any good, JD won’t trade Laird.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ehh probably right
just looking for something to feed me right now I guess.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no i think you are right
previously they were balking at the price of young pitching supposedly. It sounds like things are heating up and I really think this is going to go down…
ugh, its a trade deadline special, shut up about favre. Ive had enough.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see this as a deadline deal.
Like literally 2 minutes before the deadline. Florida will posture and say no, no , no, no but then when JD goes back to them and says “this is it last chance” they bite and give up whoever we want.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 31, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's talking with FLA
He can’t go to far astray. Just about every young pitcher they’ve got seems to be pretty decent. I really hope this happens, because I don’t see myself being dissapointed in a trade with the Fish.
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please on more brett favreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I hate that guy
by mai on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you certainly like posting about it
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please on more double postssssssssssssssssss i hate that
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New podcast up on LSB frontpage
Why wouldn’t they wait until after the deadline for a podcast???
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, pull your head out of your ass, Jamey Newberg!
Kidding, of course.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if we make a trade
Ain’t nobody gonna care about the podcast.
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember Gagne to the Red Sox came up at about 2 pm last year
After the New York deal fell through.
This is interesting at the very least.
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 12:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At worst where is the Byrd, Cruz or Cat trades?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as weak as the market is right now
I think a lot of teams are expecting the lessor players to make it through wavers.
My hunch.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not well known guys
I bet they are being discussed, dont be looking for any news until the deadline ends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXWLfIgc0nA
by mchang4 on Jul 31, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what time is the deadline??
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by hinduplaya on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
4PM EST
Freaking East Coast Bias!!!
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by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you
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by hinduplaya on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4EST
but it doesn’t really mean shit. It only effects players on the 25/40…so if a GM has already agreed to move a player, they can take longer to work out the returned players, as long as the Comm Office receives the paperwork on the big league player befopre the deadline.
Make sense? Lol, prolly not.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Red Sox
are so screwed lol.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OK, totally off topic.
I’m watching “Anthony Bourdain: No Reservations” on the Travel Channel right now, because that dude is a total badass.
He was just in some restaurant in West Texas (can’t remember which town), and he was eating Tex-Mex.
And what was he drinking?
Shiner F’n Bock.
God, I love that beer. And I’m happy to see that even the most refined palette can appreciate Shiner.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've seen that ep
quality…
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alton Brown on Food is a Shiner fan as well
FYI
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Real World Alton?
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. A totally different cat.
This guy has a show called Good Eats on the Food Network. He is a little out there. Maybe that is why I like his show.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alton Brown is my culinary hero.
And that just solidifies it.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your making me thirsty...
and I’m starting to shake.
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Shiner
I miss not having it on tap in California. At least my poker buddies randomly discovered it and bring it to the games…
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shiner is one of the few beers...
...that makes me sigh after the first sip, gaze at the bottle and say “damn, that is so good.”
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People start badmouthing beers in Texas
and then I remind them about Shiner, and they say “oh, I thought that was an import…”
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My first beer ever.
And I haven’t found many better.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we are talking a ML starting pitcher from FLA....
who is most likely?
Josh Johnson?
Scott Olsen?
Andrew Miller?
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Miller
But you can’t really go wrong there…
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
miller
what else would we have to kick in to get miller?
by baylorbear82 on Jul 31, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No idea
If the Fish hadn’t gone and beat us to the punch by trading for Rhodes, we could offer them Guardado, but…
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller
Him and Feliz are on the same level. Maybe something like Laird and Maine or Beaven.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep your high end pitching prospects
plus miller is hurt, so I dont think he can be traded. Even still, they arent trading him so it doesnt matter regardless.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller
I wasn’t saying I would do that I was just saying that’s what they would want for Miller. Players that are hurt can be traded, it just doesn’t happen often.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotcha
and yea i think they can be traded, but i also think it needs league approval.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something like that
Also sometimes PTBNL.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would ask for Sanchez
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by hinduplaya on Jul 31, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll take Josh
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not gonna happen
but yea, I would put him first on my list followed by miller, johnson, olsen, sanchez (shoulder problems), tucker, nolasco, top prospects (west, thompson, then sinkbiel), then vandenhurk.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nolasco should have been ours already!!
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the marlins said pick a pitcher
I’d say Miller. But that’s very unrealistic.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cat
Remember – for the next month you can trade guys once they pass through waivers. There is really no reason to believe that anyone will just pick up Cat – he’ll likely slide through with that contract.
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed....
Also remember if a team claims a guy you have the option of pulling him back, making a trade with the team that claimed, or just letting them pick up the player they claimed.
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody will claim Cat
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can you not like a guy
From Kalamazoo, Mich?
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we beat RA Dickey tonight we are 4 games out of the WC
Oh and in our next series vs. Toronto we don’t have to face Halladay.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and about to trade their best hitter
albeit not their happiest. He is TOing the shit out of them and I love every minute of it.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, he is
FB’ing them…in more ways than one!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet he upper decks them
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gawd, I suck!
that should read: BF’ing them
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank GOD!!!
It seems we ALWAYS catch the oppositions ace.
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AJM is ahead of MLB traderumors
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by hinduplaya on Jul 31, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
mlbtrade rumors: yanks eyeing byrd
paul that is. hey if I got excited for nothing then so will you all too [shaking fist]
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn old man!
“And get off my lawn, you rapscallion!”
lol
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For deversionary reading
last years Deadline Gagne Thread
Some pretty funny comments.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/31/15156/7926
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 12:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not one of Req's finer days
Jayslick though had his A-game going and saw what Beltre was all about.
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just love the instant knee jerking one way or another.
Plus, nobody knew what Gagne was about to do to the Red Sox.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha
Tricer on Murphy:
girly swingthat is an ugly follow thru.
Me and Billy the Kid never got along. I didn’t like the way he cocked his hat and he wore his gun all wrong.
by tricer on Jul 31, 2007 12:28 PM PDT up actions 0 recs
by lonestarJon on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from mlbtr
Lefty Relievers: Ohman, Grabow, Eyre, Mahay, Rhodes
Clearly Guardado isn’t on the market since he isn’t being mentioned at all…
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Disappointing
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
clearly
and laird isnt going anywhere (wink, wink).
come on JD make a deal. I really hope we arent giving him to much credit with all this “JD keeps his moves quiet before he strikes.”
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think that is right
guardado is being kept around for some intangible reasons. same ones that probably kept byrd around
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe in intangibles.
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by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When did you know
about his last several trades?
Uh huh, ‘nough said!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think JD realizes...
If you deel Eddie our bullpen crumbles….
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh
i didnt’ realize that last sentence was your take. i’m pretty sure it means nothing that we haven’t heard about a trade yet. I think JD can keep a trade about guardado silent.
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BP
Is it down for anyone else?
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
probably the traffic
but, that shows you how stable MLBTR is. I would love to know the number of hits/views of that website today..
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, wish granted:
Traffic and Demographic StatsMore than 3,000,000 pageviews per month in 2008
97.9% male visitors
69.9% between ages 18-34
40.8% household income above $75K
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he meant specifically today
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
that’s just the best i found.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like by not making any trades
the Rangers are in a way going for it this year …
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
While obviously not sacrificing the future
but by not trading Guardado or Byrd, they are sacrificing adding a few pieces to the future.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Jul 31, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
We get to help the future with a draft pick.
by Coolbean04 on Jul 31, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
I doubt Byrd gets us a pick, and Eddie G is iffy
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd no and Guardado will be a Type B
by Coolbean04 on Jul 31, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guardado
Didn’t pitch at all last year. I doubt he will be a type B.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if a player doesnt play due to injury
the rankings revert back to his last healthy year, I believe.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never heard that.
I’d always heard previous 2 years. He did pitch in 07 though and was dreadful in 15 games.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Jul 31, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't he pitch some in September?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 31, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends on what teams are offering...
If they are trying to deal us junk that will have no future here….then whats the point?
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but does JD really want to hear salty or laird bitch everyday about PT for the rest of this season?
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Jul 31, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly
am tired of hearing AJM and Baseball Jesus fighting about it on a daily basis
by JBImaknee on Jul 31, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for those watching the deadline special on espn
that ryan grant fantasy hall of fantasy fame jacket commercial was hilarious, and no thats not because I picked him up and won the chip. Just good stuff and that was before the ending.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
F'n Grant is dead to me....
yes i am bitter from last year
by clinton33 on Jul 31, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I had ronnie brown and adrian peterson (both actually) go down to injury as well as roy williams right before the playoffs. I had picked up grant off waivers and traded for chad johnson the week before he had 3 tds in one game, more than doubling his season total in one game. It was sweet, especially since I was watching the game with one of the guys who traded him to me. I just kept laughing and laughing, and by the time he pulled the bit where he jumped on the camera he was officially pissed.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Things need to start picking up.
two trades and nothing but manny and favre rumors.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Manny Trade DEAD
Blame game over Manny
Thursday, July 31, 2008 | Print Entry
Posted by Jayson Stark
Yet another official with one of these three teams says the Manny-Bay deal is dead. In the aftermath, the teams involved seem unsure of what happened. The Pirates are blaming the Marlins. The Marlins are blaming the Pirates. And the Red Sox aren’t too happy with either of them.
by texasrfan on Jul 31, 2008 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!!!
Red Sox implosion in 3…2…1…
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
by ghtd36 on Jul 31, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA
Too funny!
It was them…no, it was them….no, it was those fuckers over there!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on Jul 31, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
meanwhile
theo and boston are sulking in the corner.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with his arms crossed
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
by rchawk12 on Jul 31, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would not be surprised if a Laird deal is comming soon
but given this year’s trade market, I really expect that the trades are done right now. Could be an interesting August however.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I go away for an hour for lunch..
that was a ton of new comments to Z thru…
New thread?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 31, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i wouldnt' mind
good place to end this one with no new revelations and no new discussions. getting close to 500
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Idea for Greinke
If I were JD, I’d consider making an offer of Jarrod Saltalamacchia, CJ Wilson, John Mayberry Jr. and Joaquin Arias for Zack Greinke and Ron Mahay.
According to Rosenthal, if KC trades Greinke, they would consider putting Soria in the rotation. CJ would allow them to fill Soria’s spot at closer. Saltalamacchia would give them a high end catcher, and Arias/Mayberry would have a better chance to succeed in KC than in Texas. Might not be enough for Greinke, but I think including CJ Wilson might make sense for KC.
by stephen86 on Jul 31, 2008 12:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NEW THREAD
http://www.lonestarball.com/2008/7/31/583742/trade-talk-part-ii
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
New Thread
http://www.lonestarball.com/2008/7/31/583742/trade-talk-part-ii
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Jul 31, 2008 12:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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