Man-Ram talks 'dead'

Ken Rosenthal is reporting that the deal to send Ramirez to Florida has fallen by the wayside this afternoon, meaning lots more fun comments from Ramirez should be forthcoming. 

Per Rosenthal:

The Pirates' return for Bay, sources say, was the apparent holdup in the deal. The Pirates are seeking an "appropriate return for an All-Star caliber left fielder" — and one who is affordable at $5.75 million this season and $7.5 million in 2009.

To trade Bay, who turns 30 on Sept. 20, the Pirates presumably would need to exceed the offer they received from the Braves last week — Class AAA outfielder Brandon Jones, Class AAA shortstop Brent Lillibridge and two pitchers in the low minors.

Two prominent Marlins prospects who have been mentioned — Class AA right-hander Ryan Tucker and Class A outfielder Michael Stanton — will not be traded, multiple sources said.

I wonder if the Marlins might get on the phone and try to upgrade their catching position at the last minute.  Who knows.