Deadline Thread the third
by DShep on Jul 31, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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Summary of deadline day:
Manny: StayingBay: Traded to rays for Brignac and Niemman
Griffey: Traded to whitesox
Rangers: Who knows, but its been extremely quiet.
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This isn't the final thread
the discussion about the pending Laird, Cat, Byrd, Bradley, and Guardardo trades will overflow
Just in time for the final 11 minutes!
I cannot F’ing beleive that Catalanotto, Byrd and Cruz are still on this team.
i could see
one of those guys going out in a waiver trade. maybe.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
how does that work?
Cat clears waivers and then the rangers make a deal that involves covering part of his salary to a team that would have liked to pick him up but didn’t want to pay the $$? I guess that makes sense.
W: "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
by hubcityraider on Jul 31, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Who exactly
did you expect to take them?
"And I stopped beating my wife just a couple of weeks ago." -John McCain
This has been a huge letdown so far.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
it usually is
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
what would be less of a letdown
would be if the rangers could win tonight and close to 4 games behind the Sox, who have the night off, and also watch the Angels slaughter the Yanks.
I bet
we’ll have stuff to talk about 2 hours from now. none of this shit ever winds down until the end of the day.
Ibanez deal dead for sure.
M’s got cold feet.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
Anything?
Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
It will still take 10-15 minutes after the deadline to be sure nothing small happened
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
Calm down dude.
I’m sure you would have been more pissed if he had made a trade and not gotten what we needed to get out of it.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I am not convinced
That he didn’t get a resonable offer on Laird. He was talking to Florida – geez, Florida is overstocked with pitchers. They had to offer something…
Well I'm not saying he didn't either
But the thing is, we definitely didn’t get worse.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
No they didn't... at least not "something" decent
And Gerald Laird is a good player with a lot of value.
I’d be pissed if they dealt him just cause some team offered “something”.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
ch-ch-ch-chillllll son
maybe we should be thankful that he’s not caving in and just giving players away for less than they are worth. its not the end of the world. its nice to finally have a front office that says from the beginning what their goals and plans are, and not deviate from those. I cant blame other teams for not offering up young mlb ready starting pitching for what we’re offering. maybe the incentive will be higher for teams looking to retool at the winter meetings. e
Not quite yet.
They HAVE to move one of these catchers.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
they dont have to
do anything. in fact, if they dont get a good offer, id just as soon see them pack up their bags and head home. its not like after 3pm today that our catching assets become less valuable. now, if they get past the winter meetings and havent done something you have a legitimate complaint. but to say they HAVE to do something, just for the sake of doing something, or for some mis-perceived need to make a move, is simply asinine, even for you Josey
in the end
ill just have to assume that nothing decent was offered. and you cant trade for the sake of trading.
it will be a buzkill though, i was hoping for a young pitcher we could plug in right now.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
Love that electric keyboard.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
dude
how many times do people have to repeat the fact that its never over right at 3. did you read the other posts in the thread?
WUT
Rosenthal says:
“Updated 3:49 p.m.: Manny trade talks back on?
The three-way Manny Ramirez blockbuster may be back on, with Pirates outfielder Jason Bay headed to the Red Sox, sources say.
The Rays were also in talks to acquire Bay in the minutes leading to Thursday’s 4 p.m. ET non-waiver deadline, but one source has said that the Tampa-Pittsburgh deal is off “unless a miracle happens.”
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
well, they've got 3 minutes
better talk fast.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
Whoa.
Didn’t see that coming.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
MLBTR Cracked me up just now
By Tim Dierkes [July 31 at 2:47pm CST]2:46pm: Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe says the three-way is dead, while the Dodgers are in play. Gordon Edes of the Boston Globe says to count out the Dodgers on Manny. Guess these guys aren’t cube-mates.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
It's kinda tough to...
When you’re sitting in the pit of baseball hell.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha.
Imagine that.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be the most absurd trade for the M's.
Gammons, you suck.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
Don't they know that they are just a farm team for the Yankee's and the Red Sox?
I hate it when people don’t know their place.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
Th-th-th-that’s all, folks!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739
theres still 5 seconds!
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
My guess....
With the buyers market, teams were reluctant to give any young pitching up.
so JD decided to hang onto his players. I can’t blame him. If you gain a reputation for giving in, then GM’s will always try to low-ball you.
60 seconds!
well, now if JD tells a reporter nothign is happening we can believe him.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
Down to seconds.
I’d bet JD’s on the phone at this very moment.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
Phillips
‘the problem with Harden is that he strikes out too many guys’
Bavasi > Phillips
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
That's a problem that...
I DEFINITELY want to have.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously? He said that?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739
John Hart's caddy > Phillips
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
So does a trade count as consummated only if received by the league office
before 4PM EST? And how do they send in trades? Fax? Electronically? I hope the latter… Fax won’t reach in time :-D
Replace Jim Knox
3 Hour Show on ESPN News
and no trades made.
LOL!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
i luve it
when espn has to eat shit samdwiches
W: "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
by hubcityraider on Jul 31, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Aaaaaaaand, we're done.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
its not over until I see a JD quote saying no deals were made.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
No argument there.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Salty's been screwed all season long
bringing him up to be Laird’s caddy was retarded when it first went down, and it’s been retarded all season long.
Doesn’t mean we should’ve just given away Laird.
I have to assume JD didn’t get a decent offer for OMFT or Salty.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
We’ll see… but at one point there, it was reported the Rangers and Fish where discussing which SP they wanted in return for Gerry… and if the Rangers where offered any of the Marlins young SP’s and screwed it up by trying to hold out, I’m going to be slightly ticked.
well,
how can anyone even really know that that was what was really being discussed. i mean really, unless youre sitting there in the room listening to it, its all just bullshit.
I'm just kind of shocked
That JD couldn’t get a single decent offer for anyone that we had on the trade block. It makes me wonder if perhaps we’ve overestimated Laird’s value…
I'm just more in shock
That JD couldn’t get a single decent offer for anyone that we had on the trade block. It makes me wonder if perhaps we’ve overestimated Laird’s value…
Dude
what’s your deal today? Double post again?
by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 31, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Computer's moving slow
On account of having about 5 windows open to different sources and being invloved in 2 400+ comment threads so far. Sorry.
Geezus
Did it again. Damn computer is moving to slow…
I’m just more in shock that we didn’t get any good offers on any of our movable peices. It makes me wonder if maybe we overestimated some people’s trade value…
You know what...
Laird’s line was in limited time as a 23 yo?
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
he had a 100 OPS +
What’s Salty’s OPS +? I mean, this is a guy that is supposed to be an offensive phenom. And he flat out sucks at the plate. It’s time to stop making excuses for the guy and just acknowledge that he’s having a terrible season.
Salty’s season, in fact, is thrown into sharp contrast by the fact that Chris Davis has come up and made the most of the opportunity he’s been given.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
Trade deadline in a nutshell
Will Carroll (1:01:45 PM PT): Ibanez stays. Ohman stays. Manny stays. Bay stays. Everyone stays! Sit! Good dog!
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
+100
No real context, but I support that.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
What is
that flick?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
I like Piven
Remember Cupid? Cool show.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
that is
classic. Ari’s the man.
After the show I want Greg Oden to tuck us both in and tell us stories about the old days. - Will Ferrell
hehe check out the sig!
had that for at least a year!
"Shut the F*** up Lloyd!!"- Superagent Mr. Gold
I would much rather be listening to "Why
Today Doesn’t Suck” but I’m stuck in some kind of netherworld between my computer (where I’m “working”), ESPN News, WGN (Soriano just went yard, 6-1 Cubs top 8) and Rob Fucking Dibble on XM.
I need a trade!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Paperwork
remember how JD said the Gagne deal last year took to the last second for them to get the paperwork together? All these deals that were up in the air at 2:59, what happens? Do they need the paperwork in, or is a call to Bud sufficient?
what a waste of a day
glad I stayed home for this shit.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
Rosenthal update:
Manny talks dead. He stays in Boston.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
and you guys say today was a waste
I bet Epstein just started the manny talks to fuck up everyone else.
That ho.
My apologies:
Link:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8397286/Latest-news-and-rumors-from-around-MLB
Different headline – same story.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Please Manny
Don’t change, make more signs! Act like Manny, make Red Sox fans suffer for making you suffer!
This sucks
and to make matters worse, a client called right at 3pm about an issue that was closed a week ago, now demanding nothing was done and to reopen a ticket. Great timing!
you all give up too easily
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
For the record...
...I’ve said nothing about giving up. I’m still waiting.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep.
Was just going to post it. Per Grant:
They are standing pat. Official. Deadline over. Word from Rangers war room is they are working on nothing but dinner reservations.
Suck.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on Grant
Rangers aren’t holding an ‘18’. Basically, the dealer is showing a ten and we’re holding a 16. We’re not going to win with this team, so you may as well sell off pieces.
Will wants something to happen
Will Carroll (1:03:49 PM PT): Wait, wait … Bay to Boston? Is the Manny deal something out of a George Romero movie?
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
I would much rather be listening to "Why
Today Doesn’t Suck” but I’m stuck in some kind of netherworld between my computer (where I’m “working”), ESPN News, WGN (Soriano just went yard, 6-1 Cubs top 8) and Rob Fucking Dibble on XM.
I need a trade!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
no kidding
isnt there enough to keep you occupied with complaints for a while? you could always go back to fellating Bill James.
+1
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
by utlonghorn24 on Jul 31, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, no stupid moves were made today
with Hicks in the club house, that has to account for something. They could have gotten drunk to try and get in the WC. So they have that going for them.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
Oh well.
Everyone on this thread, I thoroughly enjoyed our afternoon. Thanks for keeping it fun. Even if there wasn’t much to talk about in the end. Rock on.
"But the point is, [Jeff] Mathis is a bush-league uber douche." -lonestarJon
Yep
It never ceases to amaze me at LSB’s abilty to fill up dead space. This is an awesome board… I’ll see ya’ll at gametime.
Looks like that's that
Hearing that Pirates GM Huntington has (had?) a press conference scheduled for 5:15 p.m. EST, but I don’t know anymore.
Look at it this way
we got Tommy Hunter and Bmac for nothing for the next 50 games or so…
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
Some of the LSBallers
are just determined to be pissed off. Any trade that JD did would have been deemed dumb or insufficient and him standing pat is also seen as being dumb.
If a team is in that weird gray area between being a seller or a buyer, contender or also finisher, then they are better off not participating in the trading frenzy. Hold onto what you have see if you can win enough games to make the playoffs and if you don’t you can still deal the Byrds, Cruzes and Cats of the organization.
Ephesians 1:3-10
I don't know
who you are.
Ephesians 1:3-10
by kwellborn on Jul 31, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, even if the young pitching trades everyone was hoping for had happend
we would have been furious.
i see very few people suggesting we should have traded people for nothing. but tis disappointing we wernt able to get something.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
I said
some. There were young pitchers that people were ‘hoping’ for, but what substantial rumors were out there. A team calling about a player does not equal a deal being eminent.
By the way; your spelling, capitalization, and punctuation (or lack there of) give artist a bad name.
Ephesians 1:3-10
I'm pissed off enough
to go listen to Galloway and Company
"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno
LSB facebook group ---->>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33345329288
Manny to the Dodgers may have happened
according to Carrol and Goldstein
Call 1-800-DOCTORB. The B is for bargain!
Heymann as well
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/31/manny.sweepstakes/?eref=T1
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
That should be Heyman confirms
Manny to Dodgers. So not only did Theo suck the air out of the room, he still moved Manny. Wonder what he got in return.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
holy shit
if the Dodgers gave up Santana for Casey Blake, who would they give up for Manny? Clayton Kershaw?
they woudln't trade kershaw for 1yr and half of Tex
but they would for a few months of Manny?
They’ll get a hitter back, that’s it.
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
mostly a joke
but still, if Boston pays up the contract, I wouldn’t be shocked if the Dodgers gaveup someone way too valuable
Looks like the Sox
Got Jason Bay in the same deal.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
espn:
SportsNation Rob Neyer: (4:37 PM ET ) Everyone’s saying Dodgers get Manny, Red Sox get Bay, Pirates get bushel of prospects. If so, it’s a good deal for the Dodgers and Red Sox, have to wait for indentity of prospects to see how Bucs made out. Better than the Nady/Marte deal, I hope…
espn:
SportsNation Rob Neyer: (4:37 PM ET ) Everyone’s saying Dodgers get Manny, Red Sox get Bay, Pirates get bushel of prospects. If so, it’s a good deal for the Dodgers and Red Sox, have to wait for indentity of prospects to see how Bucs made out. Better than the Nady/Marte deal, I hope…
Three ways are always fun
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
Three ways are always fun
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
Or Florida
who tried to make that deal happen the last 2 days and are left with Arthur Rhodes for their troubles, and a gigantic blackhole at catcher.
Tampa is in first place
and kept all their young players.
They’re fine.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
the Yanks got better. the Sox got better.
the Rays wanted Bay weeks ago, and didn’t muster the balls.
they lose.
by oc on Jul 31, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
The Dodgers pull one on the Dbacks too..
Dbacks were trying for Tex and Dodgers pull in Manny’s bat. I think the Dodgers are going to pull out as the best of a crappy NL west
Your sarcasm detector is
FUBAR, methinks.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
it is
i can’t tell anymore with some of the people here. Not saying firebat is one of them…
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
It happens
I jumped all over rchawk the other day. Oops!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
and now ever since I have to add an additional disclaimer
not including my sig.
sigh, now I cant change it unless I completely cut out the sarcasm, which aint happening
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
Caroll gettting random texts again
Will Carroll (1:30:04 PM PT): Bay to Red Sox?
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
Jason Bay a Red Sock
no other details at this point
Jay Jaffe (1:39:45 PM PT): Robo-thal says:
Manny Ramirez + $7 mil to LA
Jason Bay to Boston
Andy LaRoche, Bryan Morris (LA #1 in ‘06, i think), Craig Hansen and Damien Moss (both BOS) to PIT
Call 1-800-DOCTORB. The B is for bargain!
uh two middling prospects and they got rid off manny
for minimum a year and a half of bay. They made out like bandits in this deal considering how badly they wanted to trade manny. Pittsburgh got jobbed in this one. Laroche is good and all but with LA’s reluctance to play him, but play every other youngster they have now makes me wonder, plus morris is a nice prospect, but has already had major shoulder surgery and he was an 06 pick.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
funny
Kevin Goldstein (1:40:14 PM PT): Just for the record. ESPN has senior golf on, ESPN2 has tennis, and ESPNews is talking to Brett Farve’s travel agent or something.
Call 1-800-DOCTORB. The B is for bargain!
Bleh. I still think that LaRoche could be good, thatdoesn’t even compare with the guy Pitt was going to get in the Marlins deal, in my mind.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
all day and every day
hermida is coming into his own and will be a beast.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
I remember not drafting this guy and being pissed about it
cant remember who we took though, but I really wanted this guy.
After a little research I remember why I was so upset. He went right after us at pick 11. My draft wish list for that one went:
1. Scott Kazmir
2. Jeremy Hermida
284. Drew Meyer
Anyone remember that draft?
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
Shuddup!
I already have enough nightmares…
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
No one cares
Texas Rangers FO and The World.
I'm sorry my parents never had me sarcamsized.
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