logjam at 1b/3b/C when Blalock returns
per todays Newberg Report:
Ron Washington says the club has not considered moving Hank Blalock back to third base once he's healthy, nor has it considered moving Chris Davis back to third.
are you KIDDING me?
lets go over the implications for the players involved:
Hank Blalock: best value to the club is as a 3b. best value in trade is as a 3b. were talking about a guy who baseball reference says at age 22-24 was most similar to scott rolen, at 25 to gary sheffield, and at 26 to aramis ramirez. considering the long-term lack of prospects the team has at 3b (presuming davis does not move back to 3b, and i seriously doubt he does...) and considering his relatively young age (27) - as well as his lack of "typical" 1b power (broken 30 HR once in his career - at age 23.) my question: long term, how does it help the team to move blalock from 3b? be it in value to the team or value in trade?
Chris Davis:the kid has 27 AB in 9 games. he has proven himself at both AA and AA - being one of the best hitters in the minors the last two years. how does it help his development to give him say 75 AB total before the ASB then send him down and call him back up at some point in the season (after he has killed AAA pitching)? why not let him play in the majors as it is - be it in a platoon or nearly full time? if we send him down in favor of MOVING blalock to another position is it really that much different than what happened w/ jeff clement and the mariners earlier this year?
Max Ramirez: clearly he deserves to be in the majors as well - be it as a 1b or catcher. and considering right now hes the only healthy catcher we have...hes not going anywhere. does it help him to play at 1B? who knows. but do the AB help him? yes. granted he has 21 AB in 7 games (will surely go up in the near future). i know laird has done well this year but no matter how you slice it the catching position is full at AAA and the majors btwn laird, maxram, teagarden and salty. too full probably. at this point if you send maxram (or salty) down he is going to be splitting time with teagarden. if you leave him in the majors you allow him to get in AB's, take his lumps, whatever you want to call it...but does it really help his development if we send him to AAA?
German Duran: longterm, his position is (probably) not 3b. he is hitting .216 in 88 AB and not playing every day, which i would think he needs to be doing in order to help him develop
Ramon Vazquez:- lets him go back to the supersub role of split time with blalock. or let him play more at 3b and flip him at the deadline
Jarrod Saltalamacchia: at this point i really do not think at all it helps him to be sent down should be playing about as much as he currently (or more?)
so presuming you keep everyone up when laird comes back you have:
c- laird, salty, maxram
1b - blalock, chris davis, maxram
3b - vazuqez, duran
so heres my questions
1) why do you think the rangers are doing this?
2) what would YOU do?
3) what will the rangers do?
do you think it hurts davis/maxram to be sent down?
what happens with laird?
what happens with the logjam at catcher? (who gets traded? for what?
do you keep maxram playing one position or do like what was done w/ salty last year (1b/C split)?
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Long term
I don’t think it’s a real big deal in the grand scheme of things if Davis and/or Max go down to the minors for a short while. We really need to just wait and see how the trade market plays out this month before we get too anxious about it. Blalock may not even be healthy, someone could get dealt opening up room, etc.
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by t ball on Jul 6, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
my take:
1) why do you think the rangers are doing this? Hank asked to move to 1B, they make it seem like it’s not their idea but they are honoring the request. I think they are allowing it because: A) Vazquez is having an amazing year offensively (for his standards), B) Vazquez has superior defense at 3B vs. Hank, and C) Vazquez seems to be a positive influence in the clubhouse
2) what would YOU do? I would move Hank back to 3B, platoon him with Vazquez, and send Duran down. I would trade Hank if another team is willing to offer young pitching talent or a young 3B prospect if rated highly enough, or a package if no high-ceiling offers are available. If not, I keep Hank and pick up his option for 2009. Vazquez can back up the infield position. The problem with this thinking is that Hank hasn’t proven in 2 years that he can be counted on for even semi-regular starts. So if there’s even a question that he will go back on the DL, they won’t even consider sending Duran down. I would also leave Chris Davis up and play him at 100% of the games at 1B. I would trade Salty, Byrd, Cat and a reliever for whatever young, promising pitching we can get in return right now (is Salty for Snell still interesting to the Pirates? I believe Snell can get back on track) and keep Max up backing Laird up when he returns. We can move Max to DH next year and call up Teagarden to back Laird up or platoon with him. This is assuming Bradley’s healthy enough for full-time outfield duty and we don’t trade him but rather sign him to a 3 year deal.
3) what will the rangers do? I have NO idea – this season has played out completely different than I had imagined, and I love it.
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by Walter Sobchak on Jul 6, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i would trade salty if possible
id like to see us stick with laird when he comes back, using max as a backup.
as far as hank goes, he has been a frustrating case. the three straight years of declining OPS before these last two injury years are not encouraging. his potential has always been mouth-watering, but im tempted to say we should trade him.
Now as far as what the Rangers actually do, I think they will keep him and mix him in along with others at first and DH for the rest of the season. I just dont see how we can pick up the option unless he’s willing to play 3B. Id also think hed be more valuable as a free agent at 3B than 1B so i just dont understand how he could stick to this position switch.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jul 6, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Red cross
Hank’s had 3 surgeries on his right arm/shoulder/side in 18 months, plus a torn hamstring. Are we sure he can play 3B? Wasn’t very good there to begin with.
by Baider on Jul 6, 2008 3:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
first, max ram is not (IMO) ready for major league baseball. his sub .200 average needs a lot more work in the minors, and he would certainly benefit from every day playing time. absent laird, however, i don’t know what option you have. sending him down at the first possible chance would be good.
davis – great start and certainly something positive that he can build on going forward. minors won’t hurt him either. hank gets 1b time over davis. i have no problem with that.
that being said, i would favor keeping blalock at 3b, davis at 1b and sending german duran down to OKC.
anyway – i really wanted to post not to weigh in on this but to reiterate how little fielding positions matter for this team relative to pitching – using this as an example. earlier this season we had NOTHING at 1B. within several weeks/a couple of months we have a few good options including blalock and davis. meanwhile pitching is the biggest problem for this team. i know that everybody gets tired of hearing this, but fielding positions are not the biggest problem on the team. the staff is continually putting this team in a position to lose.
padilla – earlier this season everyone was jumping (back) on the padilla bandwagon. he has shown himself to be nothing more than a below average pitcher that had a few good games this year. some of the few good starts have been timely, but his stock plummeted as quickly as it rose. which pitcher shows up? who knows, but i think he has shown us that he’s never going to be someone that we can count on. millwood. 4 or 5 good starts this year (including 5 innings against an anemic NYY offense earlier this week. that was huge, but as the team’s ace we need at least 2 of 3 starts to be that type of quality instead of 2 in 5. mccarthy? have not heard anything. ponson blew up and was shipped out for nothing in return. jennings. ick. and this is just starting pitchers. what a mess we have in the bullpen.
my point (and it does not warrant a response) is that fielders are dime a dozen relative to good pitching, and i hope that mgt learns this. all these position player all stars from the rangers and we are closer to last than first. pitching is what really matters.
sorry about hijacking your post. i would say that the logjam is a good problem to have. not having a pitcher that can come into the NYY game absolutely costing us a sweep is much bigger IMO.
by sam in so cal on Jul 6, 2008 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not that it would matter ... but
1) Things have changed since Hank offered to move over to 1B … namely, Chris Davis. At the time, the Rangers had a legitimate need at first, and Hank was willing to make the move. That is no longer the case, so … the Rangers should approach Hank with the same logic that Hank used earlier … the team would be better off now with Hank returning to 3B when he’s ready to play, because …
2) Chris Davis can play him some first base, mon !! Even with the recent mini-slump, Davis should now be considered the Rangers’ first baseman … period. There can be no more talk of “sending him back to OKC when Hank is healthy … when Hank is healthy, he’ll be a nice addition to the lineup, right ahead of Davis. Leave the kid here … and let him play. The Rangers will be a better team, starting this year, for doing so … which brings me to …
3) Maximus … the Rangers have found their reserve catcher / DH for the rest of this year, and the loser of the Laird / Salty battle needs to be dealt. Maximus has shown enough (for my satisfaction) to be kept with the big club, and groomed for the position. He’ll hit once he gets more comfortable, and plays more regularly.
4) Vasquez … I don’t trade Vasquez unless I’m convinced that Blalock is healthy, and that Duran can give me production as the sub. And even then, with his value to the Rangers lineup, I’m not sure I’d do it unless it’s the only way I get an impact AA or AAA pitcher coming back. Vasquez is too valuable in the bottom of the Rangers lineup to move out of there for less than a solid prospect.
But that’s just me.
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by FloridaRangerFan on Jul 6, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm worried about the logjam in the bullpen
when Jeff Zimmerman gets healthy.
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by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2008 6:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Send...
MaxRam and CD down to AAA by July 20th so I can see them play in person. Then trade Blalock and Laird and call them back up on August 1.
Seriously though, I think MaxRam needs to go down to AAA and get some AB’s down there. He has looked pretty bad in some of his ML AB’s so far and I think he still has some work to do before he will be ready to hit like he can at this level.
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by slc ranger on Jul 6, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
commit
Either commit to Ramirez and Davis fulltime or send them down to OKC.
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by RangerMad on Jul 6, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is a wait and see
I think it all depends on where we are in the standing when Blalock returns. If we are in contention you go with who the best player is at that very moment. As great as Davis and Ramirez may end up being they are not going to hit (assuming he hits like he was) as well as Blalock. You have to send those guys back down and where they can get some playing time. I think Botts proved that it isn’t good for anyone to have a young unexperienced player coming off the bench.
If we are not in contention when he comes back, you trade Vasquez and Laird, make a place for Blalock, play Davis at first, and split catching time between Salts and Ramirez. I love Laird but there is no place for him on this team. Vasquez has been great this year but he is not going to hit like this every year, sell high. You have to play Blalock somewhere for the sake of locker room harmony going into to next season. Make a decision in the off season, he is untradeable (is that a word) this year. Davis is more of a sure thing and should play just about everyday on a non-contender. Mad Max has a lot to learn before he can be an everyday major league catcher.
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by kwellborn on Jul 7, 2008 9:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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