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A potential 2009 Ranger shortstop?

So, I'm reading Ken Rosenthal's column on the C.C. Sabathia trade, and I come across this item, which piques my interest:

Don't be surprised if the Brewers accelerate their transition this winter by trading shortstop J.J. Hardy and possibly first baseman Prince Fielder for multiple high-end prospects.

The demand for shortstops, in particular, is rising. Hardy, second in OPS only to the Marlins' Hanley Ramirez among NL shortstops, could bring a quality young starting pitcher — think Giants right-hander Matt Cain — if he is packaged with the right youngsters.

The Brewers then could replace Hardy with Class AA shortstop Alcides Escobar, whom they signed at age 16 as an international free agent out of Venezuela. Escobar already is considered a superior defender to Hardy, though he might struggle offensively for a time.

Okay...first of all, let's forget about the trading a quality young starting pitcher for Hardy part.  Let's assume that Milwaukee can't pull that off.

But let's think about the rest of it...the Brew Crew dealing Hardy for multiple high-end prospects...

This could be a fit for Texas, I think.

There's a couple of underlying assumptions to this, of course.  First of all, I think the Rangers are pretty well committed to moving Michael Young to third base this offseason.  And I think they are committed to upgrading their shortstop defense.  And I think they view Elvis Andrus as the shortstop of the future, although he's probably at least a year, and more likely two, away.

So...you've got a good young core of talent here right now.  You've got a team that, at this point, you can think about contending in the next year or two, particularly if some of the young pitchers can come around.  And you've got a lot of surplus minor league talent in certain areas that would allow you to make a move without mortgaging the future.

What this team needs for 2009 (aside from Brandon McCarthy and Eric Hurley stepping up and performing like they are capable of) is to fix the left side of the infield.  Hank Blalock isn't coming back next year, Andrus isn't ready, Joaquin Arias is a cypher, Young isn't getting the job done defensively at shortstop, and Ramon Vazquez and Travis Metcalf aren't realistic solutions.

However...Young, as I've said before, profiles as a pretty solid defensive third baseman, given his skill set.  And Hardy grades out very well defensively at shortstop...he's second in Dewan's +/- system this year, after being 10th last year (Young is 25th, 29th, and 25th the past three years), is middle of the pack in Pinto's PMR, and is above-average in Lichtman's UZR.

Oh...and blasphemous though this may seem, he's also probably a better hitter than Young right now.  And he's under team control through 2010, which means he'll be a free agent about when you figure Andrus would be ready.

How do the teams match up, needs-wise?  Brewers desperately need a solution at catcher.  The Rangers have a lot of catching options that are major league ready.  Would, say, Saltalamacchia or Ramirez, plus one of the A-ball arms -- say Neil Ramirez or Wilmer Font -- get a deal done?  Or Teagarden and Matt Harrison or Tommy Hunter, plus a Zach Phillips or a Kennil Gomez?  Wouldn't that seem to fit both team's needs?

That allows the Rangers to significantly upgrade their infield defense without really taking a hit offensively, and without mortgaging the future.

The more I think about this, the more I like it...

 

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Of this:

First of all, I think the Rangers are pretty well committed to moving Michael Young to third base this offseason.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jul 7, 2008 10:22 AM CDT   0 recs

No proof, per say

Strong gut feeling, reading the tea leaves, etc.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 7, 2008 10:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok, how does the team

tell the “players’ vote” All-Star SS he is changing positions 3-4 months after the ASG?

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jul 7, 2008 10:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The same way the Nationals told Soriano he is moving positions after four straight all-star seasons.

This from Rob Neyer today:
Both of Texas’s middle infielders are All-Star reserves, and both Michael Young and Ian Kinsler probably deserve the honor. Kinsler’s leading the American League in hits and runs, and in a lousy year for American League shortstops, Young’s one of the two or three best of the bad lot. But as Baseball Time in Arlington points out, there are legitimate concerns about both Rangers’ fielding.
http://mvn.com/mlb-rangers/2008/07/04/deconstructing-ian-kinslers-defense-or-lack-thereof/

by gr7070 on Jul 7, 2008 11:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Per se

Counsellor (and I promise to never again be a spelling nazi) : )).

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Jul 7, 2008 10:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

good

cause isn’t it usually spelled “counselor”

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 7, 2008 10:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants

by Chase Irwin on Jul 7, 2008 10:55 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nope, look it up.

Although with two L’s is more commonly British.

Now, get back under your rock!

;)

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jul 7, 2008 11:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well

“usually spelled counselor,” as in if you’re not British, you usually don’t spell it like that. Recently, I have been made aware of all sorts of spellings that I didn’t realize were technically correct. Damn Websters recognizing anything stupid stuff.

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 7, 2008 11:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

'cause

not cause.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 7, 2008 11:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

heh

"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007

by Longhorn on Jul 7, 2008 11:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Heh

Embarrassing. And not really used correctly, either.

by brettgardner on Jul 7, 2008 10:56 AM CDT to parent up   1 recs

lol

"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants

by Chase Irwin on Jul 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

haha

leave it to Mr. Gardner to get shit straightened out.

July 7 - Arod and Cynthia are headline National news today
Thank god we have Miles who gets us the SPORTS news a week before it becomes headline news.
The power of Miles - catch it!!!

by LAMuscleFag on Jul 7, 2008 2:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well

if our goal is to start seriously competing for the playoffs is 2010, why not just wait and let Andrus take over then and keep the prospects for something else, like say…starting pitching?

"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007

by Longhorn on Jul 7, 2008 10:24 AM CDT   0 recs

agree

don’t trade prospects anymore on anything other than pitching

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on Jul 7, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

don't be ridiculous

"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007

by Longhorn on Jul 7, 2008 10:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

The Rangers do not lose because they can’t score runs. They lose because they can’t keep the other team from scoring. They need pitchers, not position players.

by Jea103 on Jul 7, 2008 10:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Having Hardy at SS

would help the Rangers prevent runs.

Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.

by tricer on Jul 7, 2008 10:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

having Andrus there next year would do the same

"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007

by Longhorn on Jul 7, 2008 10:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not as many

as having better pitching.

by Jea103 on Jul 7, 2008 10:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 7, 2008 12:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

how many?

10 over the courses of 162 games?

I would take Hardy if we had to give up minimal hitting prospects. Or Laird straight up. Cat. Byrd. Which won’t happen.

Pitching and maybe 3B should be our only targets in package/significant pro player deals we make.

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 7, 2008 3:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

10 runs saved is about the same as...

...replacing a 5.00 ERA, 200 ip starting pitcher with a 200 ip starting pitcher with a 4.5 ERA. It’s significant, especially considering the type of staff that we have.

Of course, the likely response is that we don’t really even have any good bets to consistently post 200 innings and a 5 ERA.

I’d like to trade our excess for starting pitching, but this idea of using Hardy to slide MY over is kinda intriquing, and I believe it would improve the team more than most of the commenters here seem to think.

Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.

by tricer on Jul 7, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll just quote THT here...

Any sufficiently advanced defense is indistinguishable from pitching?

Wouldn’t a major defensive upgrade at short help out with baserunners?

by jwiscarson on Jul 7, 2008 10:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

major defensive upgrade

the defensive metrics I look at say mike young is adequate. hardy might be better but not significantly so.

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 7, 2008 10:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+10000000000000000000000000

hey rangers fans, you know why this team has sucked for 30+ years, b/c their shortstop position didnt have enough range….

oh wait, no its pitching…

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jul 7, 2008 12:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I could not agree with this more.

The Hardy trade doesn’t address the LONG-TERM issues we have, it addresses temporary issues we have while waiting for our future to arrive.

I think if we get the deal done for some lesser known guys without trading away a huge piece like a Salty, Teagarden, Harrison, et al, then we have a reason to make the deal. But if we’re giving up these pieces of trade bait for something that we could really do without, then I think we’re making a huge mistake.

Patience is something that all Rangers (myself still included) need desperately to learn. Michael Young will suffice at SS or 3B with someone else (a 1-year guy or whatever) filling that hole until we can get Andrus here.

Just wait it out people. Wait it out.

Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.

by utlonghorn24 on Jul 7, 2008 3:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the problem with waiting

is that Hambone and Kinsler aren’t going to stay in the prime of their careers forever. I think the offense has a couple of elite guys at their positions and it would be nice to start putting a competitive team around those 2 while they are still in the wheelhouse of their careers.

Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.

by tricer on Jul 7, 2008 4:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep

our wagon is hitched to those two, currently.

Davis, Smoak, and whoever becomes DH should keep our offense dominant for the next 5-6 years. Better get some damn pitching here in time … this time …

"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants

by Chase Irwin on Jul 7, 2008 5:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah I understand both points there...

But isn’t the waiting thing what we’ve been promoting the whole time? Kinsler and Hamilton are both going to be very, very good for at least the next five years, barring injury of course, and I think that is plenty of time to get some good pitching in here. I see no reason why we’re not legitimate WS contenders in two years, if not for sure in three. Pitching development/acquisition should be our main focus, not filling a hole with a (in my opinion anyway) stupid trade that serves no end to the focus that we as an organization have right now.

But that’s me.

Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.

by utlonghorn24 on Jul 7, 2008 6:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree completely

time for tunnel vision.

"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants

by Chase Irwin on Jul 7, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

To add more to your post...

I think that adding more competitive guys around those two are where our focus should be in trades with the extra guys we have to deal at some point. Laird/Salty/Teagarden, maybe a Harrison, Beavan/Main/Kiker, whoever we need to trade away as part of a big deal to get a big, big name in here for multiple years. A big name pitcher, not a position player, just to clarify. I feel like if we do that with our trade chips, we’re going to really set ourselves up to be that championship-caliber team like I mentioned below. What are your thoughts?

Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.

by utlonghorn24 on Jul 7, 2008 6:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Horrible Idea

With as streaky as Hardy is I would rather bring in a one year stop gap guy as a free agent and not trade any of our young pitching. If we really want to have sustained success we need to see the development all the way through, moving young arms for J.J. Hardy is not a solution.

by texrangers31 on Jul 7, 2008 10:27 AM CDT   0 recs

If the Brewers medium of exchange

Is a quality starting pitcher, and the SS-A kids are too far away, what prospects would you assign, if you could? Sure Hardy would fit nicely in the scenario given, but doesn’t that train pull up short at the pitchers only station?

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Jul 7, 2008 10:27 AM CDT   0 recs

Did I read that right?

Are you suggesting Salty or Max, plus a young arm like Font or NeRa, for J.J. Hardy?

With the ridiculous glut of middle infield prospects in our farm system, I just cannot see the justification of using a bullet as valuable as Salty or Max, PLUS an intriguing young arm, for two years of J.J. Hardy. I read on yesterday’s minor league fanpost that a scout believed Andrus could be major league ready by next year’s all-star break. Granted, he will most likely struggle at first, but still. I think our young catchers have to be leveraged for pitching. I hate to be closed minded, but this team will NEVER SERIOUSLY COMPETE until our pitching is fixed.

by clark on Jul 7, 2008 10:35 AM CDT   0 recs

yep

if you look at the makeup of this team from the players already here and in the minors, we’re pretty well set, once Andrus comes up at 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, C, CF, RF (hopefully Bradley resigned, and even if he isnt…), and we got some OF prospects coming on up as well…

If we can use some of our prospects to strengthen the bullpen and maybe get one young starter in here, this would be a very strong team…

"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007

by Longhorn on Jul 7, 2008 10:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't like it, but I like it.

I’d rather they just get a stopgap at SS and leverage their catcher situation for an upgrade to the rotation if possible. It could work, though, if they manage to sign a Sabathia or Sheets first. I like it from a standpoint of making the infield better. It makes you better at bat and in the field on the left side.

There are risks though in signing a free agent pitcher, in dollars, the number of years it would take to close the deal, declining skills, and health concerns…

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 7, 2008 10:36 AM CDT   0 recs

Seriously

What is the big deal with Young at SS. Is he that terrible? This is stupid, we have an all star SS who can get by there for the next 2-3 years and we have a top prospect who is 2-3 years away.

Hey but I have a GOOD idea, How about put that package together for a PITCHER

by meatbonelefty on Jul 7, 2008 10:38 AM CDT   0 recs

hhmm....

Just because the Rangers want Michael Young to move to 3B, doesn’t mean he will.

Him accepting moving to 3B will mean he is accepting that he is not good enough…....and MY will never admit that.

"GO RANGERS!!!" - bspate

by bspate on Jul 7, 2008 10:38 AM CDT   0 recs

Depends

If he moves for an inevitable Andrus promotion to the SS job, he’ll play it out as doing it for the team. Maybe not so gracefully done for an acquisition, but of course I don’t know, you don’t know, and Michael Young doesn’t know until confronted by the situation. He did well PR and esteem wise moving from 2B to allow Soriano’s arrival smoothly, and I’d guess he’ll do likewise gracefully when it’s time to shift to 3B.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Jul 7, 2008 10:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah but

the soriano situation was a little different. The Rangers were saying we think that you are a good enough 2B to be a good SS. It was a compliment. The move from SS to 3B can be construed as a slight. Basically, we dont think you are good enough to play SS anymore so please move to 3B.

by booyahcaveman on Jul 7, 2008 10:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

with MY's contract

they can tell him to do whatever the hell they want. Not like he’ll refuse. He’ll just have his feelings hurt.

W: "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

by hubcityraider on Jul 7, 2008 11:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He'll move to 3B

if the Rangers have as much backbone as Washington did with Soriano.

"And I stopped beating my wife just a couple of weeks ago." -John McCain

by DJCahill on Jul 8, 2008 8:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not a bad idea

but if they are looking for a Matt Cain, I really think the closest we have is Feliz and no way that trade is getting made. Maybe teagarden, harrison and a low A arm. I would probably do that.

by booyahcaveman on Jul 7, 2008 10:39 AM CDT   0 recs

Hmn...
That allows the Rangers to significantly upgrade their infield defense without really taking a hit offensively, and without mortgaging the future.

Umm… if you’re trading them one of our top young catchers plus an arm for a guy you don’t plan on having here past 2010… yeah, that is kind of mortgaging your future just a little bit.

This is an intersting idea, but I’m just not willing to give up any high-quality young players for a 2-year rental shortstop. Maybe if they wanted to swap some major league players, like Maybe Millwood + Laird for Hardy though.

What I’m really having trouble with though, is why the Brewers would do this. What exactly are they doing as an organization, anyway? They’re about to trade off their #1 prospect for CC Sabathia, yet they’re willing to give up their starting shortstop? Something doesn’t add up there.

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by lonestarJon on Jul 7, 2008 10:41 AM CDT   0 recs

don't ever question Doug Melvin!

"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007

by Longhorn on Jul 7, 2008 10:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's called, all in

From what I’ve read, they have no intention of re-signing either CC or Sheets. As Adam pointed out, they will also be looking to move Fielder after this season.

Melvin obviously believes he has a 1-year window of opportunity and he’s moving like hell to maximize the potential to win this year, knowing that this off-season they will undergo a Marlins-like fire sale, regardless of this season’s outcome.

by robert_d_wilfong on Jul 7, 2008 10:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

how frustrating

that must be for Brewers fans. They finally have a team put together that has plenty of good pitching and even includes a lot of youth. But they just can’t afford to keep em.

W: "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

by hubcityraider on Jul 7, 2008 11:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, my heart bleeds for them

I think they have a real legit chance at a World Series berth this year. I’d gladly take that.

Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.

by tricer on Jul 7, 2008 4:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Pass.

I think you sign a stopgap until Andrus is ready. While I understand Hardy’s allure, it just doesn’t make sense to me to trade big pieces of the farm system to fill a position that is essentially already filled. Or, at worst, you keep Young at SS and a Vazquez/Metcalf platoon at 3B. I just don’t think trading for a shortstop is the move.

"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson

by ghtd36 on Jul 7, 2008 10:47 AM CDT   0 recs

Hey Adam

Can you share the source for your defensive metrics? I’ve never found active +/- available online.

by philkid3 on Jul 7, 2008 11:04 AM CDT   0 recs

It is from

http://www.billjamesonline.net

I went ahead and subscribed. $3 per month.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 7, 2008 11:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh

Hm, might be worth it. Thanks.

by philkid3 on Jul 7, 2008 1:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hardy's value as he departs in 2010

Unspoken in your stop-gap formula is what can be acquired for Hardy when he exits the season. Are you assuming getting back similar value to Salty/NeRa in a 2010 trade of Hardy?

by shroomer on Jul 7, 2008 11:05 AM CDT   0 recs

If the team is in contention in 2010

do you trade your starting SS and promote a rookie?

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 7, 2008 11:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think it depends

Ideally, you figure you keep him for two years, contend those two years, let him walk and collect the draft picks after 2010, and roll with Andrus for 2011.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 7, 2008 11:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

young will move to 3b

if he’s approached about it in the right way. Even Ripken moved to 3B for the good of his team. It’s not like Texas is asking him to do something unheard of.

I’ll pass on Hardy…I’d rather sign a similar player as a free agent without giving up any prospects.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jul 7, 2008 11:14 AM CDT   0 recs

a similar player signed as a FA

would probably require a 3-4 year contract, at a minimum. Then that player would be blocking Andrus, if he continues to develop.

Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.

by tricer on Jul 7, 2008 11:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

here

David Eckstein – 1 year deal (93 OPS+ in 2007)

Hardy had a 100 OPS+ in 2007.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jul 7, 2008 11:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

why even do that?

what’s wrong with vasquez?

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 7, 2008 11:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i agree...

i’m just saying if the organization chooses to bring in a SS from the outside – I’d much rather sign an Eckstein than acquire Hardy at the cost of Salty or Max (plus a low-A pitcher).

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jul 7, 2008 11:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

so you're going to move MY off SS for David Eckstein?

good luck w/ that.

Any decent SS that can field and hit well enough to displace the FOTF is going to require a multi-year FA deal.

Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.

by tricer on Jul 7, 2008 11:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Vazquez

He’s not very good.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 7, 2008 11:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

he's not better than hardy

he’s better than eckstein

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Jul 7, 2008 11:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

so far this year

he is.

"Hey hows the playoff push coming? How about adding the AL MVP (Milton Bradley) to your lineup, would that help? Oh, your top 3 prospects? Sure, don't mind if I do." -Future Jon Daniels quote (developed by SaltyGoesYard)

by dstar442005 on Jul 7, 2008 12:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And you expect that to continue long term?

He’s .200 points above his career OPS right now. He might somehow keep doing that the rest of this season, but I certainly wouldn’t count on it past that. Seems like an ideal sell high candidate.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Jul 7, 2008 2:03 PM CDT to parent u