The Official Neftali Feliz AA Debut Thread
by jparks77 on Jul 7, 2008 4:37 PM CDT
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PrintTonight, against the Arkansas Travelers, RHP Neftali Feliz will make his Texas League debut.
In 82 IP this season, Feliz is 6-3 with an era of 2.52 in 17 starts. He has only allowed 55 hits and 28 BB to go along with 106 Ks. His groundball/flyball ratio is 1.64 with only 2 HR allowed. Over his last 50 IP, he has recorded 67 Ks.
He's good. The Arkansas Travelers are not.
They are dead last in the Texas League with a second half record of 4-12. They have currently lost five straight games and have the worst offense in the league.
It could be a long night for the Travelers.
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sopcast?
Tvants? Come through in the clutch someone, plz.
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
Paging Rodney ...
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Shit!
I found 4 MiLB games being shared…but not this one!!!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
Thanks, anyway
d00d
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
NP
Sigh…I’m getting used to failure.
lol
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
Your bank account reads otherwise
;)
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh, I wish
I didn’t have to work. Zywica or anyone, if you’re at the game tonight, please post a diary tonight or tomorrow with a report.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
If no one else does
I definitely will. I suspect that we’ll get several reports.
by Brett Perryman on Jul 7, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Travelers
They only K about 6 times per game which is the 3rd lowest in the Texas League. Prediction time…
5IP 4H 3ER 4BB 6K
"Publicly, Beavan has said in an interview that his velocity has dropped because he's not used to throwing as much and because of all the travel -- late night bus rides, sleeping in hotels, not the best nutrition, etc."
It's Neftali. Sir.
Very anxious to see how he fares. This could be the one. After years and years of trying to find an ace, this could be the one.
"Mr. Hicks, you watch, I'm going to be a leader on this team." Kinsler
A Home Grown Ace?
Im starting to get the feeling that they are like the mythical jacalope and the every ellusive snipe…
Jackalopes mythical?
I have seen one sir. Right there on the counter top in Wall Drug, Wall S.D.
"Publicly, Beavan has said in an interview that his velocity has dropped because he's not used to throwing as much and because of all the travel -- late night bus rides, sleeping in hotels, not the best nutrition, etc."
Haha!
You gotta stop there if you are in the area…I’ve been. I think I had a sody pop.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
5 IP 2H 0ER 1BB 8K
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
minor league monday
FYI to all in the metroplex area, Monday is minor league monday on the Rangers radio pregame show. Locally it is on KRLD 1080. I am sure they will be talking about Feliz today.
"Publicly, Beavan has said in an interview that his velocity has dropped because he's not used to throwing as much and because of all the travel -- late night bus rides, sleeping in hotels, not the best nutrition, etc."
Everyone predicting 5 IP
AA debut … have they got him on a pitch count? Not that I expect him to pitch any further ..
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 5:33 PM CDT reply actions
Feliz
Over his last 10 starts, Feliz has only finished 6 innings twice. They’ve been pretty conservative with him.
That's what I figured ...
just wasn’t sure if it translated into an official pitch count or not, especially after skipping BAK.
Surely Hindman wouldn’t miss a detail like that, at least not now ;)
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Not expecting much
Hoping for the best though.
5ip, 7h, 2bb, 3er, 4k
feliz
i’m not able to go tonight which sucks, but i’m watching that box score closely
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Hmm
It could be a long night for the Travelers.
Don’t you mean a short night?
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
Now we're talking
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
More bad news for Ark - they lost their 20 HR guy
All-Star catcher Ben Johnson was promoted to Salt Lake this morning and will be replaced on the Travs roster by Anel De Los Santos who joins the club today from Cedar Rapids.
No relation?
If Brett remembers that word correctly, then I expect some relation to Macumba…
"crazy shit" or "fucked up shit"
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
game not online, right?
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
word
thx. atleast we got your updates…
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
audio
is online and free on milb.com
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
w00t
Thanks Shroomer!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
+99
for the gas nefe throws. just loaded up the site on a new page to thank you. tuned in just in time to hear him strike out another guy.
it scared me though cause the first thing i heard was talk of a home run while we were pitching. not sure what they were talking about.
I'm sorry...did you just suggest Burnett for Arias, Gold, and another player?- slc ranger
how's the control?
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
nice, thx
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
99 and 100
i like those numbers
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
I can hear the mitt popping clearly on the radio
The radio guys commented how unusually loud the mitt-pop sounds in the park.
gas
o
line
quite the contrast
from lee’s outing saturday.
that dude barely touched 85
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
He didn't come close to 85.
He was 80-82 MPH with 66 MPH change ups and curves. It’s fun to follow that with a guy like Feliz.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 8, 2008 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
97-98 on the fastball
His slider is 86ish and pretty sharp. The hit in the second should have been an error on fox. The travs haven’t hit anything hard.
He came out a bit amped up, but he’s settled down. Very impressive so far.
feliz
damn, now i’m tempted to just drive up to frisco. i can be there in about 15-20min but feliz might not go many innings
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
this guy might not see AAA
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
They are just WAY overmatched
with his fastball.
"Mr. Hicks, you watch, I'm going to be a leader on this team." Kinsler
I think his heater
would overwhelm major league hitters as well. His secondary stuff isn’t ready but his gasoline is exceptional.
they
seem to be trying to run on him a lot. I don’t know if he’s slow to the plate, or they think gradoville sucks.
Gradoville was struggling, but
Feliz wasn’t holding guys at all. He varied his look at 2B a couple of times, but I don’t think he through the ball to 1st or 2nd the whole time he was out there.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 8, 2008 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
He threw
the ball to first once but it short hopped berkery and hit the runner in the face on the hop. I feel for Gradoville, it was a free for all off Feliz all night long.
by booyahcaveman on Jul 8, 2008 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions
is there any way
we can call him up for a relief appearance in arlington tonight?
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jul 7, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions
We
deserve for a kid like this to turn out and be legit. We really do.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
Goddamn, we do
How things will fall into place if Neftali Feliz pans out as an ace …
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Even better
All of the players from the Tex haul have a chance to be impact players at the major league level.
That even rhymed
damn, that guy makes me happy (no homo).
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
if this start goes okay
he’ll be here soon enough as well….next week?
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
tomatos
i dont know why, but i’m quite amused by the tomato talk
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Good home-grown
organic ‘maters are hard to beat.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
Can someone update Feliz's line?
I’m using an iPhone in a hotel room and Shroom’s site is acting up for me
3.2IP 3H 0R 0BB 4K
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
4IP same line
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
If you don't mind
Can you give me an update after each inning?
My goodness...
This kid is just unbelievable. I’m so excited about the idea of having a ace in our system.
The Rangers need and deserve this kid to be their ace of the future, and I think he can be.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
i agree
but we shouldn’t go all DVD on him and put him on all this enormous pressure that we did with those guys…
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
Um
he’s already skipped a level .. ?
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
so
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
I think there's a little pressure to perform
already and isn’t pressure inevitable, anyways?
You gotta find out if he can be your game 1 starter, one way or another …
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Try
Boston Medical Group – 100% Guaranteed Cure on the 1st visit!
;)
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
Longhorn needs a visit, Feliz is already happy
EOM
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Wonderfully
Well Played, Sir!
Would that be a triple entendre?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
Would that be possible?
According to Wikipedia, that is a rare occurrence in language.
Did you know?
Theoretically, an “entendre” could be extended indefinitely beyond the triple entendre to encompass quadruple entendres, quintuple entendres, et cetera. For the sake of brevity, however, entendres beyond the triple entendre are often referred to as “N-entendres”
Giggle … get it?
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm higher on The Filth...
than I ever was on anyone of the three in DVD. Just my opinion.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Haha
let him get that pitch count up, Nera.
He needs to go deep and take ownership of this game!!
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
stadium gun
was very accurate saturday, all the scout guns were within about 1mph
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
the scout's gun
In front of me was one mph faster earlier in the game; I didn’t see it on that pitch.
That can't be, can it?
Really 101 mph? That has to be 3 mph fast doesn’t it? And even if it is the guy is throwing in the high 90’s with ease. My god I think i’m in love. Like LSJ/Salty love.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
love it
turned the volume down on the rangers game. i love hearing about andrus, vallejo, borbon, etc. all and watchng hambone drive in yet another run. the best part of all this is im really just waiting for nefe to get up again anyways.
I'm sorry...did you just suggest Burnett for Arias, Gold, and another player?- slc ranger
That would be both
of us…
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
RBI Triple
for Murphy.
Now 3-0.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
hurry up mosebach
more Feliz please.
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
They sound so
happy watching him pitch. It’s great.
"Mr. Hicks, you watch, I'm going to be a leader on this team." Kinsler
Hey, I qualified my happiness
Let’s be as clear as possible, here.
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
noooooo
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
would this be last inning
or will he/can he go more?
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
Feliz now hitting 101 mphTwice, actually. The stadium gun showed a 100 and a 101, but scouts downstairs had him at 101 twice.
SS Elvis Andrus drove in a pair of runs with a single that delivered 1B Thomas Berkery from third and CF Julio Borbon, who nearly passed Berkery.
Through four shutout innings, Feliz has surrendered three hits (one of which could have easily been an error on 3B Adam Fox). He’s fanned four and not issued a walk. He’s thrown 54 pitches so far, but I don’t have time to count balls and strikes right now.
His stuff isn’t as good as Edinson Volquez’s was when he arrived in Frisco - fastball not as lively and the change is not nearly as good - but he’s not as erratic either. He also does a better job of keeping the ball down than Edinson did at this stage.
I would agree somewhat
I guess it depends on what you’re looking for. Volquez’ changeup made guys look silly, but he had little control of his FB (though better movement than what Feliz showed tonight). And of course he had no curve to speak of either. So, more movement on Volquez’ stuff, more velocity and control on Feliz’. Both pretty awesome raw packages, hopefully Feliz will improve his weaker points as effectively as Volquez has (but without the A-ball retreat).
by Brett Perryman on Jul 7, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
i was at the game tonight
and I really believe that Feliz will be what we thought volquez was going to be a few years (and is now) back. He did a terrific job of elevating his fastball and changing hitters eye levels.
by booyahcaveman on Jul 7, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually
a few times you could see him do it intentionally and then attempt to go low with it. I would wager more were intentional then you think.
by booyahcaveman on Jul 7, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
1st BB
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
veryone is stealing bases today
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
Feliz
cannot hold a runner close to save his life. All the steals while he was on the mound were on him not the catcher.
by booyahcaveman on Jul 7, 2008 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
err
he’s all of sudden extremely wild?
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
That single
weak?
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
strrrrike three!
I'm sorry...did you just suggest Burnett for Arias, Gold, and another player?- slc ranger
hmm
maybe just a lack of concentration there. Ended with a K. Good.
"I really think JD is probably going to be one of the best things ever to happen to the Rangers." - Longhorn, May 27th, 2007
After
the coach came out, you could tell he just wanted another hitter after going 2-0. I like the nasty streak at the end. I was at the game tonight and very impressed.
by booyahcaveman on Jul 7, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
probably done
anybody have the final line on him?
I'm sorry...did you just suggest Burnett for Arias, Gold, and another player?- slc ranger
Feliz
The jump to AA will really test his secondary stuff. As seen tonight he got through the order twice with relative ease by throwing mostly fastballs. But that third time through the order even AA guys can lock in on one pitch and they did. Hopefully he can work on his off speed and breaking stuff and that will make him go deeper in games because he can keep batters guessing more.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
AA jump
yeah, you’ve got to think it’s so he can work on the change and slider vs better hitters and learn to mix.
but really if he can even throw an average change, mixed with a high 90s fb, thats brutal
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
But if he doesn't develop them to be somewhat plus pitches (at the least)
Then he could turn into Verlander. An ace-caliber pitcher who just hasn’t figured out how to make hitters guess over a long period of time. He can do it maybe for a year at that point, but then I think he runs into the same wall that Verlander has hit. Which is probably why that needs to be of the utmost importance now that he’s in AA.
Ian Kinsler has finally earned the right to be the third of my co-favorite players.
wost case scenario
if that happens, he still a very very good relief pitcher.
but as young as he is, given some patience he’ll be fine
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Verlander has been pretty friggin good outside of April.
That’s a weird comp.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 8, 2008 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep
Even if his change is just a show-me pitch, he can still dominant at the AA level thanks to his fastball.
Where is his slider at?
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
It's inconsistent
When he throws it with the same arm speed as his fastball it can be unhittable. I don’t think he trusts it yet.
Well...
Frisco is the perfect place to work on that and his change. Then he can head up to OKC sometime next year with everything in place and ready to dominate
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
He was telegraphing his CU really bad tonight
He is much slower on his leg kick when he tosses it.
by booyahcaveman on Jul 7, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Hunter so far
8 ip, 6 h, 2 er, 0 bb, 3 k’s. Only 84 pitches needed. Mendoza can learn from watching this guy.
I don’t know much about Albuquerque Isotopes but they seem to have a good lineup (anyone who knows more about the Minors can correct me) so it only adds to my joy that he is able to do this against a good lineup.
And Hunter was only draft last June.
84 pitches?
WOW. If he is doing that I can live with less Ks if he can eat up innings I will take that.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Phenom video
Hunter’s performance might be free to watch online later tonight or tomorrow. I’ll keep an eye out.
Frisco is on local DFW TV next Sunday. The Frisco homepage projects Feliz to start that night for now. Things could change but it’s looking good.
Hunter -- Final line
9 ip, 6 h, 2 er, 0bb, 3 k’s. Only need 94 pitches. Ground outs-fly outs: Hunter 12-10
BTW - Thomas Diamond
Somebody on the NMLR msg board claims they talked with Thomas Diamond yesterday and he did not have surgery. He got an injection instead hoping to pitch thru the problem and put off surgery until the off-season. So, it could be that Diamond will just slip back into his rotation spot this Friday. I saw TD in uniform in the Frisco dugout Sat and Sun on TV. I wondered what he was doing there considering he was supposed to be getting surgery. Guess not.
Someone posted that on this board yesterday as well
Hopefully the reports are true.
So said
No Name on Card earlier…last night? This morning?
Let us delve into NNoC’s ID a bit deeper, heh.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
who is
that? somebody I should know?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
Ha really?
Now that is certainly interesting.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
Nuh Uh!
Don’t try to play me foo’!
I don’t believes ‘ya…
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
+1
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Is this the "official" Feliz debut thread?
Ok I just wanted to make sure :)
Go Senor Happy!! You rock!!
July 7 - Arod and Cynthia are headline National news today
Thank god we have Miles who gets us the SPORTS news a week before it becomes headline news.
The power of Miles - catch it!!!
So when will his next home start be?
I think I heard he might pitch Sunday, and that one is on Channel 21.
I think I’m going to make the trip up to see his next start for sure.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
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