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Rangers' High-A Affiliate Possibly Moving

Per Josh Leventhal at BA:

The teams that would move are not set in stone, but Bakersfield and High Desert are at the center of negotiations. Both have been laggards in attendance for several seasons, and complaints about conditions in Bakersfield from the Rangers—the Blaze's major league affiliate—provided impetus for the change.

He goes on to say Fayetteville, NC is a possibility for the move.  Also, the Rangers are possibly threatening to terminate their player development contract with Bakersfield early.  Overall, it comes down to a bad field, attendance, and minor league officials in Bakersfield itself.

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Wouldn't surprise me

From what I recall hearing, as soon as Fuson left, the Rangers started looking at trying to get out of the Cal League.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 1, 2008 6:23 PM CDT   0 recs

move the team to sherman texas!!!! or something.

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NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Aug 1, 2008 6:26 PM CDT   0 recs

Won't work

No high-A ball between California and (roughly) the Appalachians.

There seems to me no question that the Batman film "The Dark Knight"... is at some level a paean of praise to the fortitude and moral courage that has been shown by George W. Bush in this time of terror and war. -- Andrew Klavan

by Lucas on Aug 1, 2008 6:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The mystifying part...

...is why Texas signed a FOUR year contract. Usually they’re just two. Only thing I can guess is Texas thought they were locking themselves into a good situation once a new or rebuilt stadium was in place. But that location began dying a slow death when the Dodgers bailed in 1995. There’s been no movement on a new stadium, and the team was essentially in receivership for a while.

There seems to me no question that the Batman film "The Dark Knight"... is at some level a paean of praise to the fortitude and moral courage that has been shown by George W. Bush in this time of terror and war. -- Andrew Klavan

by Lucas on Aug 1, 2008 6:28 PM CDT   0 recs

League Bylaws

From what the article says, it also seems the league would rather kill one of their teams than see it move and rebuild from there. Their bylaws put a stranglehold on owners wanting to move out.

by Andy Seiler on Aug 1, 2008 6:32 PM CDT   0 recs

Yay!

Come to the Carolinas!

Although God damn Fayetteville is a long way from me :(

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 1, 2008 6:36 PM CDT   0 recs

Fayetteville

2 hours from me. I would very much welcome the move. Kinston would be better but any move to the Carolinas would be welcome.

by Chris Hanes on Aug 1, 2008 6:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Where are you?

I’m in Greenville, SC.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 1, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Jacksonville, NC

Camp Lejeune actually.

by Chris Hanes on Aug 1, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh hell

My bro and his family live there so I go up there once or twice a year. Had no idea it was also home to the great Carro…err…dirkatron

Here are just a few of the key ingredients: dynamite, pole vaulting, laughing gas, choppers - can you see how incredible this is going to be? - hang gliding, come on! -- Dignan

by Hypo-Luxa on Aug 1, 2008 10:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

if recent history is any measuring stick...

....dirkatron will have moved before the Blaze do.

Pinch me...this team is playing above .500???

by RangerMoto on Aug 2, 2008 11:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

Too true, too true…

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 2, 2008 2:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't think so

Lost a team to Greeneville after 2004.

There seems to me no question that the Batman film "The Dark Knight"... is at some level a paean of praise to the fortitude and moral courage that has been shown by George W. Bush in this time of terror and war. -- Andrew Klavan

by Lucas on Aug 1, 2008 7:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, my bad

You’re right.

I swear they got a new team, but I can’t find any indication of it on the interwebs, so you’re right.

Forget what I said above: I’d kill to have them play in Columbia.

I need my Rangers minor league fix.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 1, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yah, there is

Yankees, I believe. But having a minor league team in a city so obsessed with their college teams is kind of mean, imo.

We just built a really kickass new minor league stadium here in Greenville for the Red Sox Low-A team. (Most famous for being the team Kapler managed last year.)

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 1, 2008 7:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

dont forget

the shoeless joe jackson museum across the street from it that josh hamilton helped move there.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Aug 2, 2008 7:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Columbia, SC baseball options

Columbia Blowfish of the Coastal Plains League

"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08

by badradiorules on Aug 2, 2008 9:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Fayetteville is beautiful in the summertime

Especially with all the tattoo parlors, strip joints and payday advance places. I was just there for a week and holy shit am I glad to be back home.

by berg on Aug 1, 2008 6:59 PM CDT   0 recs

Yeah

because there’s so much to all the A ball cities.

by Chris Hanes on Aug 1, 2008 7:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Fayetteville

Is that the Carolina League? I’m too lazy to research whether this would be a brand new Minors club.

I just remember reading what an awful hitters league Carolina is when Andrus came over…

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Aug 1, 2008 7:22 PM CDT   0 recs

It'd be a new club and presumably be in the Carolina league

But don’t think of it as a horrible hitter’s league, think of it as a wonderful pitcher’s league, where all our young pitcher would go to gain confidence and become little future Cy Young winners.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 1, 2008 7:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 1, 2008 10:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Word

Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.

by Brian Thomas on Aug 2, 2008 11:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Richmond Virginia

Richmond has lost its AAA team, to Gwinnett Ga. The city has promised to bring baseball back here next season. Personally it would be cool to get a Rangers affiliate here.

by Rob ONeal on Aug 1, 2008 9:49 PM CDT   0 recs

You live in Richmond?

I’m just up the road…

Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.

by Brian Thomas on Aug 2, 2008 11:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i still think

the state of Texas deserves an A league. plenty of cities that already have independent teams and have pretty good attendance. An affiliated league would only increase attendance. Ft Worth, Grand Prairie, San Angelo, Rio Grande area, El Paso back in the mix along with Lubbock, Waco all could have teams.

by mo on Aug 1, 2008 9:50 PM CDT   0 recs

Travel Nightmare

It’d be a nightmare to try and travel across Texas in a second league. The Texas League is bad enough.

by Andy Seiler on Aug 1, 2008 10:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Fun

A road trip to Lubbock, San Angelo, El Paso, and, say, Brownsville.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 1, 2008 10:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How about El Paso to Texarkana?

Dope.

Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.

by Brian Thomas on Aug 2, 2008 11:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Waco Has Had Many

Minor League Teams over the years up until the early 1960s, and nothing since then, Waco with it’s central location and the fact that it is located right on I-35 would be a perfect team for the Rangers, the City government is now much more open to something like this, unlike the bunch who ran the town into the dirt from the 1950s to the mid 1990s, Waco is now a very fast growing city, it may be the perfect fir for the Rangers

by TRFAN on Aug 2, 2008 12:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Jason lives

in Wacko…’nuff said.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Aug 2, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I believe

He is a Rangers fan from Waco who calls into Mike Ogulnick’s postgame show on KRLD. He evidently does that a lot. Not sure his cards aren’t badly shuffled, but again, I don’t often hear the call in show, so take it with at least a grain of salt.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Aug 2, 2008 4:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Haha

He calls into all the insomnia shows also, Sporting News mostly. I once even heard him attempt his act with Charlie Jones…that didn’t go over well in his 10 seconds.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 2, 2008 5:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Jason, aka: "The Wacko from Waco"

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 2, 2008 5:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

there is

only 4 teams in Texas in Texas League. Ark, MO, and OK. are others. alot of leagues are several states. An A League entirely in Texas wouldn’t be any different.

by mo on Aug 1, 2008 10:25 PM CDT   0 recs

Yay

I’m a little tired of 9:30 and 10:00 starts and tricked up ballparks.

Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return

by zywica on Aug 2, 2008 12:13 AM CDT   0 recs

I would be incredibly excited

if they came back to the Florida State League! I didn’t follow the team at all back when they were here… I would go a crap load if they came back!

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on Aug 2, 2008 12:30 AM CDT   0 recs

One awesome possibility...

would be if the Blue Jays leave Dunedin (my home town), which has been rumored lately… and then the Rangers could move in. They’ve got really nice facilities there.

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on Aug 2, 2008 12:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Would love to see them in the appalachain league.

i am from Myrtle Beach, SC so it would be awesome to get to see some of the young guys play. I get to see all the braves minor leaguers come through, but I would like to see ours instead. I was lucky enough to see Salty and Andrus over the years.

by psmitty on Aug 2, 2008 1:38 AM CDT   0 recs

Mytle Beach sucks

Everyone knows Garden City is where all the cool kids hang out.

(Though I assume you mean the Carolina league.)

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 2, 2008 3:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mytle Beach?

Never heard of it.

Is that near Myrtle Beach? :)

Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.

by Brian Thomas on Aug 2, 2008 11:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think anybody in the system particularly likes Bakersfield

I’ve been hearing rumors all year that the Rangers wanted to move into the Carolina League, but I just shook them off since the PDC wasn’t up until 2010. I guess this confirms that something is going on though.

by JasonCole on Aug 2, 2008 2:04 AM CDT   0 recs

If you guys remember my write-up from a Blaze game, I mentioned how empty the stadium was on a Saturday night

I don’t know if I mentioned the field… the grass was nice, the rest of the place was a dump.

by Inkara1 on Aug 2, 2008 2:07 AM CDT   0 recs

For those of you who haven't seen the ballpark in Bakersfield, here.

You might have to right-click it to see the full size.

It’s 354 feet to center.

The sun sets in the evening behind that big wall in center.

That might be all you need to know.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 2, 2008 3:57 AM CDT   0 recs

Come back to Pt. Charlotte, and the FSL

That way I can see the kids again ….
Hey, I can wish, can’t I ???

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by FloridaRangerFan on Aug 2, 2008 7:55 AM CDT   0 recs

like i said...

there is a sincere possibility that some teams are moving around in the Florida league, that could open something up.

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on Aug 2, 2008 10:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Didn't they try to move before...

And no one wanted them? I seem to remember talk about them trying to get into the Carolina League before they signed their renewal with Bakersfield (Wilmington in particular) but none of the teams wanted to be associated with them because they didn’t consider the Rangers to be an attendance draw. Am I dreaming that? Of course, now they have a lot more good prospects in the lower levels so I suspect they’d be a lot more attractive to teams now.

http://www.mvn.com/milb-rangers

For old times sake...C'mon Kelly! :-)

by Beverly23 on Aug 2, 2008 8:29 AM CDT   0 recs

I live in Austin Tx

so I have tons of minor league baseball around me with The RR express (AAA of the astros) and the SA missions (AA of the Padres). but the nearest rangers affiliate is Frisco which is just as long as a drive as going to arlington. so i would be off my rocker if a rangers A ball affiliate made its way to waco. that would be amazing. since waco is just about 90 minutes on I-35.

touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.

by kmacsm on Aug 2, 2008 2:28 PM CDT   0 recs

Won't happen

The only High-A leagues are the Cal League, the Carolina League and the FSL. There is no way any of those leagues would charter a team in Texas…it would be a travel nightmare.

http://www.mvn.com/milb-rangers

For old times sake...C'mon Kelly! :-)

by Beverly23 on Aug 2, 2008 2:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah i know,

but one can dream

touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.

by kmacsm on Aug 2, 2008 5:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep

It’s feasible to put a team into either of the Carolinas, eastern Tennessee, or western Virginia in the CL, but that’s about it. They are very limited to wheels on pavement transportation, and even the time zone matters.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Aug 2, 2008 5:01 PM CDT   0 recs

Terrible stadium

Having lived in Bakersfield… they are in desperate need of a new stadium. Sam Lynn Ballpark is AWFUL. So uncomfortable and concessions so bad that a Ranger fan WANTING to be at the park wouldn’t go to the park.

The old owners used to only worry about Opening Night, Fourth of July and one other night for a nice crowd. Otherwise they drew maybe 300 actual butts in seats and announced 750.

The town is actually OK. It is pretty hot in the summer, but with a nice new ballpark the fans may return… but I don’t think they ever will build a new park. When the Dodgers left, that was it. Piazza played there.

Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!

by pbpsean on Aug 2, 2008 10:45 PM CDT   0 recs

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