Rangers Fans Most Loyal
by kentbenfer on Aug 11, 2008 11:18 AM CDT
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PrintI haven't seen this anywhere else on this site. But Forbes did a recent ranking of the most loyal fans in baseball and the least loyal fans in baseball. And, wouldn't you know it, but us Rangers fans were named the most loyal, just ahead of the Boston Red Sox.
I am stunned.
Top 5:
1.) Rangers
2.) Red Sox
3.) Braves
4.) Cubs
5.) Pirates
Bottom 6:
6.) Yankees
5.) Phillies
4.) Twins
3.) A's
2.) Tigers
1.) Angels
Suck it Anaheim and Oakland! It also should be pointed out that Seattle was in the bottom 10 as well. So, at least we win the AL West at something.
Congrats everyone!
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Well....
with all the years of losing we’ve had to go through, to have people still supporing this team is in itself an accomplishment.
"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno
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by MayurP on Aug 11, 2008 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
as gonna say the same thing.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
Wrong headline
It should read something like Rangers fans have least idea of what is actually happening in baseball. I mean that most fans attending game are casual and there for the fun of it, not because they are passionate about baseball.
An evening at a ballgame in Arlington is more affordable than most other ML parks. It’s not like people here are having to pay the highest prices and still filling the stadium. It’s more like there is only so low attendance will go here, given the size of the population and the affordability of the entertainment.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
"least idea of what is actually happening in baseball."
You’re wrong here. I’ve been to games in many cities – and the Rangers fans are certainly not the most oblivious to what is going on. It may be affordable, but its also not exactly comfortable (how many super casual fans want to go to a game on a 100 degree evening?)
Fans in the midwest and East are far more knowledgeable, but fans on the West coast are absolute baseball morons. Anaheim’s park is just a bunch of families out for the day (or wanting a day off of Disneyland), and Petco Park in San Diego is just a super-casual place to be seen (I’ll put serious money down that San Diego fans have the lowest baseball IQ of anywhere).
I can vouch for both those assertions
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 11, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Good points
Mostly I think this is just another stupid Forbes attempt to get clicks by ranking something that’s not really rankable but will draw interest. Seems like they have one of these idiotic things every week.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
Depends on your definition of loyal
To economists, like the folks at Forbes, “loyal” can probably be defined as “fan base whose attendance is most inelastic to winning percentage”
To baseball fans, we see that feature as only being one aspect of loyal. But the Rangers probably do well on others, including knowledge of minor leagues. Remember – not every team has a Jamey Newberg.
Where the Rangers lose out is on things like TV viewership (probably not helped by 30+ games on the west coast), and drop in interest once football training camp starts. Though the latter I would contend is more an indictment against the DFW sports media (though it is hard to blame them, considering the popularity of the cowboys).
Completely lacks logic
and intended for shock value.
The formula they used considers only win elasticity. It doesn’t utilize factors like:- market relevance,—the Rangers are last in all of baseball
- stadium capacity— Boston, Pittsburgh and Chicago are all in the bottom five in the league; Boston is in the midst of a 5+ year sellout streak.
- tickets sold vs. attendance—its possible that no one except the individual teams has this ratio; I once heard that 80% of season ticket revenue comes from corporate sales
I’m sure there are several other factors that could be used to calculate fan loyalty. A needlessly complicated fans/win formula is garbage.
This is what happens when you teach journalists how to use excel.
by robert_d_wilfong on Aug 11, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
As a Washington native. . .
I would find it simply amazing if SD has a lower baseball IQ than Seattle.
I don't know about this
“Through the use of multiple regression analysis, we determined how quickly fans supported the team when they started winning and how quickly they dissipated once performance slumped. The faster that fans boosted attendance and the more hastily they abandoned poor performance indicated fans who were less loyal.”
Basically all they are measuring is attendance inertia. Rangers fans’ attendance is unaffected by the Rangers’ performance, good or bad. I don’t think that necessarily equates with loyalty. An alternate explanation of the findings is that the Rangers have a lot of fans who go out to games just as a family or business night out, without really knowing or caring what’s going on with the team. The findings are interesting and a unique attempt to measure something that is basically unquantifiable, but I don’t the findings exactly support their conclusion.
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not surprised
when you compare all of these teams blogs of SB Nation (lone Star Ball, etc.) we are by far the most active, have you guys ever checked out the Yankees Blog or the Angels, almost no activity and it’s the same for all of the others i have looked at, I have not checked them all, but would bet we are the most active of the lot. I hosted a poker game this past saturday night and we talked about this very thing, about how LSB was much more active than the others. now if we could just get the fans to go to the games.
Rangers fans
Anyone who’s been a Rangers fans for more than 5 years should be considered a die-hard. Same can be said for Pirates, Royals and Nationals/Expos fans.
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