Minors 8/11
by Gdawg on Aug 11, 2008 6:41 PM CDT
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PrintOff day for the good guys today so lets get a minor league thread going instead.
Pimental starts today for Spokane
Michael Main tries to keep up with Beavan's amazing hot streak and starts for Clinton tonight. He had 6 Ks in 6 IP with 4 hits and 2 walks, 0 ER, in his last start.
The Shroomer has Kiker as being the starter for Bakersfield tonight and Henry for the AZL Rangers
Hodges is set to go in Frisco
Ballard is making his 5th AAA start
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Let's go Main
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on Aug 11, 2008 6:46 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of Main
Are the Rangers still letting him hit?
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
Risk of injury
Main has stated his main thing to concentrate on is staying healthy for rest of season. Rangers were fearful of him injuring something on the basepaths.
i know about Beavan
but I was wondering whether you guys think Main starts next year at Bakersfield?
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I bet so
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
For those in the know
What has changed for Poveda, he seemed to have a miserable start in A+, yet 2nd half of year, he seems renewed and throwing great.
He was injured I believe
or at least coming off an injury
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
If it was injury
Then he should be up in time for playoffs in Frisco.
I think his peripherals
also showed that he was pitching much better than his ERA showed. In June, he struck out more a batter in each 4 PAs while having his best monthly BB rate at 6%. He had a .404 BABIP though and a 7.71 ERA.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
agree
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps he is the "surprise"
Jamey mentioned in his upcoming rankings?
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
Just a heads-up—I’m going to wrap up “In their Footsteps” this week and then launch a new weekly column for the Rangers MLB.com site in which I will rank the Top 20 prospects in the system and adjust the list weekly, as appropriate, with bullet point notes on each player.You’ll find at least one surprise high up on the list.
But the Top 20 feature won’t show up until August 21. While I have a pretty good sense of how that 20-deep list will look 11 days from now, the state of the 2008 season is not nearly as clear. The Rangers’ backs are against the wall, but they’ve shown us so many times in 2008, maybe more than ever before, that it’s in exactly that situation when the best in this club comes out. How this season is ultimately shakes out hasn’t been determined yet, but one of the ways it will be defined, no matter what happens from this point forward, is as one of the most resilient clubs in franchise history.
I'm going to bet
it’s one of the late round HS guys from this year who gets signed. Like Harold Martinez
I think
it’s Neil Ramirez
The Eagle has landed....
Thinking that he ranks him really high?
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Jamey's #1
I’m picking either Arias or one of Boscan/Perez. He’s been high on Arias in recent rankings.
Holland will be high but just isn’t a dark horse anymore. He’s probably the ace of Frisco’s staff next year. Maybe this year.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 11, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
ranking Arias #1
would be a good way to instantly lose credibility.
No way that Jamey, or anybody else, would rank Arias anywhere near the top.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
Um
I think Feliz is going to be everyone’s number one.
Even the relatives of other prospects are prolly gonna have Neftali #1.
Yah.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 11, 2008 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
And yet
Jamey’s suggesting a surprise entrant there…
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 11, 2008 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
No
He’s suggesting a surprise entrant “high up on the list”, not at #1.
Feliz is gonna be #1.
Book it.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 11, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Acch.
My reading comprehension sucks. The SAT outed me, it goes back that far…
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 11, 2008 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Arias
I still think he winds up high on the list.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 11, 2008 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
My money's on one of his homeslices of bread
like Vallejo, Cristian Santana or Font being top ten or something.
Jamey loves him some blind smother-love.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 11, 2008 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Im guessing he saw the mid-season prospect project
so that wouldn’t really be a suprise…
Robbie Ross maybe..
Check the post to your right
titled “New MLB.Com/Newberg Report Column”
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
The Main event
starts the game with a K. Beavan enjoys seeing Mains bulldog style and curveball, which is what the K was on.
How's dirkatron put it?
Beavan’s the best commentator Beavan’s ever heard.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 11, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
No Diamond
in Frisco game, seems Hyatt took the starter spot, was the game delayed to rain?
Yet nothing on how much
Would be nice to know.
He was a 4 pitch guy coming out of HS
Plus fastball, plus curveball, avg slider, and avg changeup.
Can a 2 seamer really ever be a plus pitch?
Unless your Nolan Ryan i guess.
its very rare but some pitchers have their 4-seam sink
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
really?
name one. never heard of one period
"There is nothing wrong with a good baseball argument, even if it gets a little personal now and then. If someone here get[s] their feelings hurt because of a blog post they really need to get a grip."
t ball
by booyahcaveman on Aug 12, 2008 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Other way around
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
Its the plus pitch for
Control guys. Seems Beavan is the guy in our system next in line for that.
where
do you guys get your updates from?
If there were no rewards to reap,
no loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now... Be patient
Listen to the game
check out shrooms site, and then milb site.
On a side note, Shroom must be taking a day off.
Unless its just me?
Up to 7 Ks through 5
But just gave up 3rd run, and error keeps the inning going.
Holland Promoted?
Just got Jamey’s email that says there are blog reports that Holland will start Wed. for Frisco.
agreen posted something about his facebook...
did it get deleted on you… or did you remove it?
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
sorry, i was asking agreen if it got deleted
i wasn’t really clear about that
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
yeah someone deleted it
no idea why
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Someone asked if I deleted it or if it got deleted
so i explained…
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Oh really?
which other one?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
i didnt see the thread either
but still i think such news deserves its own thread…
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
agreed
woah! me and green agree on something. trippy.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
I posted that earlier
and Z or AJM deleted it. I have no idea why they would do that. It’s a public website, it isn’t unethical at all. People report about what is on people’s facebook or myspace sites all the time.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Content
The post had no content that hadn’t been stated multiple times previously.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
Not really
It provides a single clear place for people to discuss it. Before the diary there wasn’t that.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Not really what?
Your post had no content and had been stated twice previously.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
no it hadn't
been in a diary. Good job trying to pick on me though? I don’t get what you’re even doing talking to me.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Sorry Sir
I won’t point out that had been in two previous diaries. I’m sorry for disrespecting you and your eight word diary.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
why are you trying to
argue with me? I was asking why it was deleted. It has nothing to do with the fact that it was included within the comments section of the main page. That isn’t how this blog works…stories aren’t deleted for no reason.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
If...
the diary really had 8 words, then it probably should have been deleted.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
it wasn't like that
i figured if the public had known about it, someone would have made a diary but nobody did. apparently it was being discussed under some other thread on the main page. So I posted the news thinking it hadn’t been posted yet on LSB. Then when it was deleted i thoguht maybe it was cause i linked facebook.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
dude it's not a big deal
chill
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 11, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I was gone all day
what the heck happened?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 11, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
To summarize
Agreen07 posted an 8 word diary earlier today threatening to kill each and every LSBers family while they had to stand by helplessly and watch. As you can imagine this didn’t go over so well and the post was deleted.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
I'm very chill
trust me
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
"calmer than you are..."
“WILL YOU JUST TAKE IT EASY MAN?”
“calmer than you are.”
"So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know... "
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 12, 2008 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions
It's political
obviously…But, I honestly believe AJM would never have deleted my diary, especially because I was just trying to provide everyone with a single place to talk about Holland. It wasn’t like I was doing anything inappropriate. No harm in that. But Z is on a power trip and if he posts a story tomorrow about Holland it will just manifest that he is a hypocrite.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Grow up.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 12, 2008 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Says the guy
who has a street fighter profile icon! Did you just learn what a vagina is?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
hmm
im unaware of what my profile icon has to do with your whining and bitching like a little school girl.
I could come back here with a witty retort about my carnal knowledge coming from your mother or sister, but that would be really juvenile. Even more juvenile than you trying to insinuate that I must be a pre-teen because of my profile icon.
Im leaving the bitching and moaning to you. Feel free to continue seeking sympathy for your sad cause. And I will continue to feel free to call you a vagina for doing so.
The old
I’m not going to make fun of you while simultaneously insulting you routine. Did you come up with that one on your own? You are so clever I wish I had the wittiness that you possess. Teach me how to be so great…please, pretty please!
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
kinda similar
to the “deflect discussion from the original topic by insulting the other person” method, one which you clearly are the master of.
pot. kettle.
Not really
I never did that…
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Crap link didnt update
Now seeing it, thanks
Well tied with Beavan in Ks
9 through 4.1 innings, due to pitch count. Another teen Ortiz in for him.
You read my mind
It is the true 12-6 curveball.
Danks never had that pitch
He was a slider guy.
I can't imagine
how JD must feel every time he sees the boxscore from a Danks’ start.
Hate to beat a dead horse, and don’t want to get into the whole discussion again, but damn, how much brighter does the future look around here if we have the young lefty ace fronting the rotation?
A whole lot better.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
It has to make him sick
I know it does me.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
no, thats much different
we have kinsler and we are always horrible in pitching
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
I guess
but just not nearly to the same degree. It’s the connection with the guy and the fact that he could have been here for years and years in such a critical position that sets him apart.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 12, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
yep
And if Danks would have gotten hurt the last two years here and McCarthy stayed healthy in Chicago and was fronting their division leading rotation you would be calling for his head for not pulling the trigger.
So I don’t see the point of constantly bringing it up.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
lots of other people do
and if “ifs” and “butts” were candy and nuts,
we’d all have a helluva Christmas.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
well
No way of telling. I think he would be a very good pitcher if he were here, do you not?
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
maybe, I don't know
he was pretty awful last year. I think it’s awesome that he’s doing well, but much less awesome everytime he does well 10 or 15 people jump up and scream I told you so.
Yeah, I get where you are coming from
It gets frustrating to me when several posters, including a couple of the most prominent on the board, want to talk about the amazing maturation of a Ranger groomed ace, and there are always a handful that want to stick their fingers in their ears and jump around screaming, “I can’t hear you, it’s not JD’s fault, I can’t hear you, it’s not JD’s fault.”
Annoying. It’s topical, and people here will always want to talk about it.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
I'm certainly not trying to deny
that he’s been very good. I said before that I will root for him, but the trade as was made was decent value for decent value. Maybe this is just a lesson that we can’t work out the developmental curves of young pitchers or maybe there is something wrong with our coaching staff. I don’t know
But the fact of the matter is when a guy goes from being god awful to excellent in the span of a year, and now prominently features a new pitch that he did not learn here, I’m dubious of his potential success as a Texas Ranger.
Maybe he would be excellent anyways, who knows, but I think it’s rather pointless at this time to rehash this trade for the 53rd time.
I think the cutter is a big part of what he's done
but he has also drastically improved his control, and last year his hr/fb was out of line at nearly 14%, while this season it is probably unsustainable in the other direction at 7.5%. Also his strand rate is pretty high at 76.5%.
So, I think he has made an adjustment, which he had a track record of doing in the minors, so I think that could be expected. And also he was pretty unlucky last year, and a little bit fortunate this year. I think if he continues to improve he could string together several years similar to this one.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
He very well could
and that would suck for the Rangers. That said, McCarthy’s history coming onto the trade was of a guy who never walked anyone and stayed healthy throughout his career, and we all know how that went.
I think the trade showed two grevious mistakes 1) the mistake of believing the grass was greener on the other side and 2) believing we were ready compete when we clearly were not. It was a bad trade, let’s all agree to get over it and stop rehashing.
And his xFIP was 4.96 last year and FIP was 5.60 his RA was 5.96. Those numbers were very close to his ERA of 5.50. He might have made a lot of improvements this year, but last year was anything but a result of luck.
i cannot agree more
with this post. i like JD, but as of right now, the damage he has done to this franchise, at least at the major league level, still outweighs the good. he really needs neftali and andrus to come through in a major way, and harrison to at least stick in the rotation, to make up for the likes of Danks, A-Gon, Young (to a lesser degree) and Galarraga (probably not sustainable, but a hell of a run).
perhaps it is “beating a dead horse”, but it still holds true, and apologists cannot deny it.
and if they do try to deny it
you can feel free to sic them. The result of the McCarthy trade has been god-awful, as Danks turned out very well and B-Mac hasn’t and the San Diego deal was bad from the get-go.
But really, what is the point of talking about it again. Is there any angle that hasn’t been explored already? Does it make everyone feel better to rant and rave and whine about it?
yeah I think so
a LOT of people said “give the trade 2 years before judging it.”
well, it’s been about 2 years. time to judge…
but in all seriousness, I think it’s sad (and no knock on Brandon himself) that we have to wait another year or two AT BEST to judge this trade based on pure talent. I mean, will we ever get to see him fully healthy? and if so…If Danks goes on to post 3.00 ERA seasons and McCarthy pitches in Arlington compiling 4.00 seasons, how can we judge that? if they both put up 12 to 15 wins a year, but with that disparity in ERA, and say Danks strikes out a few more than Brandon…and honestly, that’s what I expect out of him best case scenario. I’m sure you can say Danks wouldn’t be a sub-3.00 pitcher here in Arlington, but I’d sure as shit like to see a young, Texas-grown lefty striking batters out.
"So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know... "
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 12, 2008 2:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Only thing to look forward to is having McCarthy out of ths system
Either with trade or draft picks, atleast no looking back.
That trade
What gets me about it was that it was just an unnecesarry trade. If it was made because McCarthy was a ML ready starter, were we really in a position to where we couldn’t wait on Danks?
Anyhow, yeah, dead horse.
Danks
Would he have ever learned the splitter here though?
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
Coulds and woulds
given how Mark Connor was apparently the anti-christ, I don’t know if Danks would be as successful here as he is in Chicago
Danks
would be on the 60-day DL with sprained hair or something if he was still here, and McCarthy would be a Cy Young candidate. We would have multiple posts every wondering why in the hell JD didn’t pull the trigger on that rumored trade.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
Yeah Holland's myspace says he's going to Double-A
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
sure
http://www.myspace.com/dholland19
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Danks has a no-hitter going
We cant let him do it, EVERYONE JINX
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2008_08_11_bosmlb_chamlb_1
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
too late, i already jinxed it
seriously i click gameday then danks gives youkilus a hit
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
and now hes down 2-1
hah.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
Line doesnt look that great
IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Main 4.1 2 4 3 4 9 1 2.25
Ortiz allowed one of the inherited runners to score.
No disrespect
Just not his spectacular stat line.
he retired 9 or 13 batters
on strikes. we have seen that he can get guys out. tonight displayed that he can really miss bats with his stuff. as much as i like to see 6 innings and 1 run, as he has done in the past, a night like tonight shows just what his upside could be.
Hmm...
Ron Washington leadoff hitter that wrecks havoc on the basebaths?
by meatbonelefty on Aug 11, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
If he is
it won’t be while Washington is still around. He may make the majors, but he won’t be up to that task for another several years.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I just think his game will require
a few more years of maturation before he’s really good. I have come to think that he will be really good after watching him this year, but he needs time. Part of that is strength, and that will just take a little aging.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i still have a feeling
that on opening day of 2010, he will be our starting SS. He may not bat leadoff, but he could be a very dangerous 9 hole hitter in the meantime.
I think he will be there by about then
but I don’t think he will even be a good #9 for a year or so. He’s so, so young. He’ll only be 21 that year.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
And Cahill
will be pummeling us with posts about the hype and how he hasn’t done anything.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
I think if you give him next year in the minors
to continue his development, he could be a very good 9 hole hitter. Not quite a great leadoff option yet, but I wouldn’t underestimate what he could do in 2 years.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Call it a prediction.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Well this will be two years
I think it will be three before Andrus is a legit top of the order guy. You’d predict a 6+ year tenure?
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Ron Washington's tenure ending before Jon Daniels makes absolutely zero sense.
by oc on Aug 11, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay
That seems neither here nor there, given the conversation.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Hah
touche
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Washingston's
final months as Ranger mgr are now upon us…...
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 11, 2008 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
hopefully
your last months as a poster are now upon us
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
wow
that was uncalled for…... are you a relative of Wash’s? do you consider my opinion that his tenure could be nearing its conclusion preposterous?
what gives?
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 11, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
pretty much
The guy has had to work with over 50 players this year due to injuries. Hes had to overextend his bullpen because of either injuries or shitty starting pitching. He has been given the youngest average aged roster in the majors.And yet at the end of the day he has taken a team that was well below .500 less than a month into the season and they are now a few games over .500 and depending on how this week goes could be playing meaningful baseball in September which we haven’t seen around here in a few years and damn sure didn’t expect coming into the season. So yeah for you to say his last months as manager are upon us is just plain dumb in my humble opinion. Couple that with a couple other debates I have had with you and you come off to me as just another kneejerking fan who doesn’t understand the finer points of the game. But thats purely just me. If I offended you I apologize.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
the finer points.......
the steady procession of last place finishes has been so fine a point that it would stun a mastodon.
How many minor league pennants will you be ordering this year to adorn the walls of your home?
Unfortunately some on this site get their little minor league weenies so worked up that they suffer from premature ejaculation. Its the Bigs that count…...unless you live in Bakersfield.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 11, 2008 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
Wash has had a steady procession of last place finishes?
Really?
One last place finish in his first year is a steady procession?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 11, 2008 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
lets play a game......
its called, “wait and see”.
I say he’s fired with neither JD or Nolan wanting to risk another atrocious start to a season.
Have you checked attendance lately? This thing aint coming back as presently configured. That’s why I believe Hawkins was not labeled as the permanent pitching coach(The papers said the position would be re-evaluated at the end of the year). Of course it was JD that gave the quote…not Wash. My belief is that a whole new staff will be here next year.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 11, 2008 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
all
the hot air that is in my balloon.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 12, 2008 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
So you think...
He takes over for a very bad team that is rebuilding and finishes last in his 1st year. Then finishes 2nd with a very young, yet talented team that is still rebuilding, but suffers a ton of injuries. Then he gets fired? I really don’t understand some of the logic behind you Wash haters. Yes the guy has made some bad in game decisions, but if you think he isn’t here next year you are dreaming.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I'm
actually not a Wash hater….
The guy cant get us out of the gates and another season won’t be allowed to be tossed down the drain after only a month of play. The risk is too great. Another abysmal start and the only people left in the stands will be Newberg subscribers, the cookie lady, and the family members of the next wave of kids that arrive for their debuts.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 12, 2008 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Beltre done for the night
After going after first pitches for a 0-3 night.
He's not
a top of the order guy, I don’t think. I think he becomes a power hitter who hits in the 4-6 range, depending on how good he gets.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
what happened
to his mystical advanced approach. That was one thing I kept reading when the trade was made
Yeah good question
Must have been much easier against kids his age.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry to go OT again
but if anyone else got a bit caught up in phelps at the olympics after that race yesterday, his next race is about to start, figured Id give a heads up…
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
Ridiculous
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Is he going for his 3rd gold?
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
now for number 4
"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno
LSB facebook group ---->>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33345329288
nope
just the semis. finals will be tomorrow
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
or maybe later today
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
geez
that guy is ridiculous
The Eagle has landed....
world record/gold
of course.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
Yes
And he beat his WR by like a second in a fairly short race.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you delete my diary?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Yeah
I appreciated the mention of the facebook, but it wasn’t news at that point, had been discussed ad nauseum, and there was no commentary in the post. Just a judgment call.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah i mean
i hadn’t had a chance to read any of the other threads today but I figured that it would have gotten its own thread if it has been realized. Guess I was wrong. I thought i was breaking news that’s why i didnt really provide commentary. Anyways I thought maybe ya’ll were made that I quoted facebook. Glad to hear that wasn’t the reason.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Nah nothing like that
Adam probably would have left it up too, and it probably did deserve a diary. I just thought it was best if the discussion on it didn’t get that much more spread out.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you I'm not by a TV
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
^^^^^^ okies dont have TV's
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
LOL
I’m not at my house. Oh I have infiltrated Texas I live amoungst you Texans and have for 14 years. :)
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
man the US can swim...
theyve shown 3 races in the past 15 minutes…
US wins…
1st- Gold/Bronze
2nd- Gold/Bronze
3rd- Gold/Silver
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
and your nation can afford to have swimming pools
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
not just swimming pools
but one in almost every town.
I swam as a child in China, it took a 45 minute walk to get to a pool, and I lived in a major urban center in the most developed part of the country
Great night
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
oh no, disaster strikes
only a silver in the next one =)
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
Phelps just won gold again
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Pay attention
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
i was kidding
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
OT: Calling all music enthusiasts
watch the following video from the movie One Missed Call.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ToGhXrPTDg
Can anyone name the song playing in the background about a 1:30 into the clip?
The Eagle has landed....
I got it
It’s
Editors – Munich
The Eagle has landed....
by Lonerangers on Aug 11, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Mayberry
just looking at play by play, he must have more hits to his direction than anyone else in the system
does anyone
care that the guy sucks?
why oh why will he be called up? Simply because he must be added to the 40 at the end of the year?
Jeezus…...I guess the 40 really is Christ like in its ability to draw reverence from otherwise rational folks.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 11, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Who else?
Who else are we gonna bring up? Cruz is hurt which is the only reason Mayberry would get called up now. If Boggs goes on the DL and with Bradley not being able to play the field we would only have 3.5 OFs (Cat only counts as half because if I see him out there on consecutive days I may cry). Yeah the 40 does play a huge role and since in September he was probably getting called up anyway you can bring him up now and get an extra few weeks evaluation time. I see no downside really.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
why do you need evaluation time
on a guy who cant hit in AAA?
possible new screen names for bigsteve:
1 – Ranger Homer
2 – JD’s bigbrother
3 – B-Macs Sac
4 – 100 word minimum (his posts are generally 100 words +, he likes to hear himself type)
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 11, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
I think some people around here were saying the same thing about David Murphy if I do recall. He seems to have turned out alright.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
luv Murph
I’m just generic kneejerk man with no access to stats but if time allows would you be able to cull each of their AAA stats?
Give me $2 on Murph.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 11, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
OK
Murph in AAA
24 years old/ 84 games/ .267/ .355/ .447/ .802 OPS
Mayberry Jr
24 years old/ 82 games/ .271/ .329/ .494/ .823 OPS
Murph played in the IL not the PCL so I don’t know exactly what that would do to his stats but both were first round picks who “underperformed”. If Mayberry Jr turned into another Murph I would be happy right now
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
interestin'
unfortunately only white guys can getaway with the charlie hustle, fans-luv-em, hard workin, do-it-all, all heart,rusty greer monikers. black guys better rake. plus saberGod AJM assures me that Murph is a platooner at best.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 11, 2008 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
PCL is more hitter friendly than the IL
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
But to add to that
The Brick is a little more pitcher friendly that Pawtucket’s field.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
Bricktown is pitcher friendly relative to the rest of the PCL.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
he can't hit AAA?
huh? look at his first 2 months in AAA, had one horrendous month (like someone here said, players have 20-25 games of bad stretches sometimes), and is now picking it back up this month…
So, what are you talking about?
Tony Romo's #1 fan!
I
lose.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 12, 2008 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions
He has hit 2 great months
at AAA, one horrid slump and a good start right now.
And he always crushes lefties. If we’re going with a Murph, Hamilton and Davis as our LF, RF, and 1B of the future respectively, Mayberry will be a very good contributer because he can spell all 3 of those guys. And do DH duty if absolutely need be. He’s not going to be a superstar, but he might very well be a good role player. And he’d be replacing Brandon Boggs, who is a role player.
You do the math.
u
win.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 12, 2008 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions
He'll hit for a bit,
then slump again. I do not have high hopes for him, if you can’t tell.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
Kiker
4ip/2h/0r/2bb/5k
Watch him give up like 5 runs now that I’ve posted this update.
Handy Olympic website for night owls
Just click on the event you want to watch - Dirk comes on at 1:30am I think. You can also watch the archived events – like the big swimming relay from Sun nite or Dirk playing against Angola in Germany’s first game. Kaman ruled Angola.
BTW – the magic farm calendar will be slow with the links/info for a few days – roll with it. Or don’t.
All I ask
is that you don’t lead me astray on Holland’s first home start. :)
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
That's Jason Cole's call - Holland starting Wed
I just sent an email to Scooter about the upcoming Frisco rotation – but he’s a ditz and you can’t trust his info that well even if he does reply.
Kiker's done
Beeyute:
5.0 IP
2 H
0 R
2 BB
6 K
Top of my head, Frisco’s rotation next year:
Holland
Feliz
Kiker
Poveda
Diamond
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 11, 2008 10:59 PM CDT reply actions
Diamond
won’t be there.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
yep
I think the Rangers are ready to push him starting next year. He made good strides this year coming back from his injury and next year needs to be pushed because his roster spot may be in jeopardy if he toils away in AA any longer
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
That's
pretty much what I’m thinking, maybe Reed for Diamond. That’s great to see from Kiker too.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Reed
Almost put Diamond/Reed in that last slot. I know the JD regime is high on Reed but his numbers have been so consistently mediocre. It would take grading him on that Cal League curve to promote him.
I’m so sick of the Cal League. If it can’t inflate Whittleman’s numbers to make people at least as optimistic as they are on Lemon, I mean screw the place.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 11, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm definitely ready for a move east
Of course I hated it in the first place and selfishly hate waiting until late to see the box, so I’m a little biased. But some of those parks are just not fit for player development.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
it isn't that reed has been mediocre
it is that he’s been very good, and then he absolutely melts down for one inning and completely blows his line. he and phillips both are close to being very good pitchers, but 6 run innings can kill an ERA.
Have you seen his stats
through say his first 3 or 4 innings. He always seems to start off pretty well then just runs out of gas.
The Eagle has landed....
by Lonerangers on Aug 11, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Reed
He was a college closer and he could just never take to starting. He might also have to add a pitch or greatly improve on one of his offerings to get through the order a 2nd and third time. Isn’t he currently a fastball/slider kind of guy?
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
Makes sense
Not to many starters get by with two pitches if they can’t have at least a passable third pitch to show hitters.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
Thompson
better tonight so far: 2 IP 2 H 1 R 2 BB 4 K
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 11, 2008 10:59 PM CDT reply actions
Justiin Thompson is recovering nice from his latest setback
sweet.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
OT: Rosterbaition/Hypothetical trade talk
So if the Texas Rangers offer the Marlins Jarrod Saltalamacchia for Andrew Miller, who doesn’t do that deal?
The Marlins...
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Reference
Salty this year: .235/.337/.335 – 23 y.o.
Miller this year: 5-9 with a 5.63 ERA after a 5.63 ERA last year. 100 IP, 4.2 BB/G, 6.7 K/G, average GB rate. 23 y.o, almost to the day of Salty’s birthday (their birthdates are 19 days apart.)
Both pretty disappointing.
But one's a pitcher
Honestly this seems like the sort of deal teams hate to make: My nascent bust for your nascent bust. The downside of seeing your guy go elsewhere and blossom seems to trump the idea of maybe turning that guy into someone else’s bust who might blossom here. It’s a fear thing, home dog.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 12, 2008 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Meh
Honestly it seems like teams really don’t put the positional value on catching that you would think. Not to mention what a premium pitching is these day I’d say Florida turns that one down.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
Actual News
Thomas Diamond done for the year. Precautionary shutdown.
He’ll have surgery for bone spurs in his ankles.
Nice
I like the depth in lefties the organization is building.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
Interview
I decided to make a separate fan shot. Hopefully it doesn’t bother people that I plugged it.
Thanks
Any chance of getting an interview with a guy from the DSL or Arixona, would love to know more about a Tomas Telis or Clark Murphy.
Tedious question, I know
Any word about Font?
The Murphy interview was rad, sounds like a good, humble guy.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 12, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Font
I’m not sure. I think he is still working in Arizona. Hopefully he will be at instructs as well.
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