Minors 8/13
by coolaid on Aug 13, 2008 7:06 PM CDT
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OKC game is already over. They won 4-2. Ryan Roberts had a HR and Arias went 2-5.
Holland is going to make his first start for Frisco in just a bit.
Phillips is going to be starting for Bakersfield.
C-Wun is taking the hill for Clinton. Said he is on a 75 pitch limit in the radio interview.
Nevarez is starting for Spokane. I have no idea who Nevarez is.
Shroom had De Los Santos for AZL but you never know.
[Note by coolaid, 08/13/08 7:07 PM PDT ]
Star of the day: Mr. Holland
| Frisco | ||||||||
| Player | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | HR | ERA |
| Holland | 8.0 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 10 | 0 | 0.00 |
Pitches-strikes: Holland 107-74.
Ground outs-fly outs: Holland 8-3.
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Holland
With 2 Ks through one inning, one unearned run scored.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone else having trouble listening to Clinton game?
Seems just timing out no matter what, yet boxscore seems still shows warmup too, is there a rain delay?
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Beavan
off to a shaky start…
1st inning HR, 2 R, 1 ER.
by tyd3311 on Aug 13, 2008 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Beltre out again in Clinton game too
Only one hit for Beavan, just mistake to another 1st rder Moustakas.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's literally the first thing I thought of when I heard he was going to be on the show.
by LiamP on Aug 13, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the first
time in a long time (I think June 29) that he has given up more than 1 run in a start.
by coolaid on Aug 13, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone broken the curse?
I guess its only a pro bowl TE like Witten to break it I assume.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Witten is the only one that really comes to mind.
by LiamP on Aug 13, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Morrow?
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Aug 13, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Recorded the Beavan segment this afternoon
For anybody who failed to catch it, you can check it out here.
Hopefully he can reverse the incoming BaD Radio curse.
by jamcadbury on Aug 13, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
didnt like
how he said he’s learning to pitch without his Velo and that will make him a better pitcher when the velo comes back or a better pitcher even if it NEVER comes back.
It’s in the back of his mind that his velo might be gone for good.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 14, 2008 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland breezes through 2nd
Added another K after two groundouts.
by Chris Hanes on Aug 13, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Throwing strikes...
Pitches-strikes: Holland 28-22.
by coolaid on Aug 13, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he living off the fastball?
Seems he has great control painting the corners. Havn’t heard any K on slider or changeup.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Beavan being limited due to pitches
is he done for the night, or should he be?
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Delay is nearly over
Could be a close call on whether or not he comes back or not.
by jamcadbury on Aug 13, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get Holland on the next flight to Boston
Another K.
by Chris Hanes on Aug 13, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You heard the play earlier by Andrus
With the big club he might have had 2 errors behind him and maybe 2 runs scored. Rather keep in minor leagues where there is a defensive squad behind him.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw it then...
Bring Elvis with him!
by Chris Hanes on Aug 13, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+111111111111111111
at least get a shortstop with range in there
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by hinduplaya on Aug 13, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would love to know the speed of Holland's fastballs.
by coolaid on Aug 13, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I haven’t heard any mention of velo.
by Chris Hanes on Aug 13, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither
but they keep mentioning how much the hitters are behind his fastball.
by coolaid on Aug 13, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needs to mix in that slider and changeup
seems to be depending on blowing the fastball by them.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AA though
I just wouldn’t think he should be able to keep blowing his fastball by AA hitters. I would think they would be good enough to sit fastball and at least make contact with it.
by Chris Hanes on Aug 13, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its first game
and the late movement on the heater is what is fooling the hitters. But once the scouting report goes out is where we really see how he adjusts.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
Looking forward to his report.
by Chris Hanes on Aug 13, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fastballs fastballs fastballs. 92-96, pretty evenly spread across that range, when I could see a gun.
Tulsa’s lineup is okay, not great, but those were some of the worst swings I’ve seen against them since Volquez. I’m obviously no scout, but I think he needs work on the other stuff. But imagine how good his FB is to dominate like that without doing a ton with his other stuff. Also, the two hits were after a horrible error by Tracy that should have ended that inning and after strike three (missed call).
Jamey and the gang were all there taking notes so I’m sure they’ll have plenty to say.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 13, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I left after seven and didn’t see the last two hits. Why in the world do you leave him in for the 8th, good grief.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 13, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nolan Ryan
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 13, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pina
How’d he look, behind the plate and at the plate?
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 13, 2008 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's good defensively
obviously. He wasn’t quite as dynamic as I expected, but he’s one of those guys who’s got everything under control. Threw out the only attempted steal that I remember seeing.
He looks a little stronger than I expected and hit the ball with a little conviction. I think he swung at two first pitches though.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 14, 2008 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Report coming in...
....5-10 minutes.
WOW.
by Jamey Newberg on Aug 13, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds as dominating as volquez
minus 2-3mph – lets hope they leave him there for a year and force him to develop above-average secondary stuff in order to succeed with the big club. It seems everyone gets excited about a talented pitcher and then the clamor begins to rush him to the bigs by fans and, as we all know already, by previous regimes. Sounds like he still has some work to do and, if tonight is any measure, he might have to be foreced to work on his secondary stuff like Feliz, because his fastball is so good. I hope that is the route that is taken for the sake of his development and i have confidence that is what will happen since they have taken that approach with Feliz already.
by Goyogringo on Aug 14, 2008 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Volquez already had a plus plus change
How does holland’s 2nd and 3rd pitches rate per his previous performances since they weren’t on display tonight?
by Goyogringo on Aug 14, 2008 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beavan - Not looking great
2 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 K.
by coolaid on Aug 13, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
5 IP, 2H, 1R, 0ER, 8 K
66 pitches.
Let me say that again.
8 Ks in 5 innings of work on 66 pitches
by FirebatM3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prospect Status
Does he jump all the way from 30ish to #2?
by Chris Hanes on Aug 13, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he's #2
He’s pretty crazy though. More performances like this and he’ll be #2 next year I’m sure.
by LiamP on Aug 13, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I suck at typing.
by LiamP on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland
Let’s say that he continues putting up comparable numbers in AA as he has at both A ball levels. I would definitely put him as the #2 overall prospect next year.
by Chris Hanes on Aug 13, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh.
Assuming Smoak signs, what if he beasts in Bakersfield -> Frisco while playing the GG defense he’s capable of at first?
What if Feliz continues his development, gets promoted to OKC and does well there?
What if Beavan regains his velo while maintaining his command? What if Main stays healthy and crushes the cal league? What if Elvis develops some plate discipline and some semblance of power?
There are so many variables there. I’m of the opinion that Holland will eventually become our #2 prospect next year too (assuming he continues to be this great), but a lot of things could happen.
by LiamP on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They better not allow Smoak to not sign, If his defense and hitting are as advanced as advertised I see nothing wrong with signing him to a major league contract.
by CRUSHDAVIS on Aug 13, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be shocked if he didn't sign.
ML contract or not.
Also, it’s not even certain whether or not he wants a ML contract. Callis said that Beckham, Alonso and Smoak were going for ML contracts, and Beckham just signed a non-ML contract rumored to be around $2.4MM. I’d take the ML contract thing with a grain of salt.
by LiamP on Aug 13, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this system is so good
that no one outside of Clayton Kershaw can do that.
But he is very good. He might very well be the #2 pitching prospect after Feliz
by FirebatM3 on Aug 13, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last week I had him
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 13, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is ridiculous
8K’s. 49 strikes and 17 balls through 5ip.
by Chris Hanes on Aug 13, 2008 8:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
8k's!
i knew i should have gone tonight
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by rentz on Aug 13, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why is he being allowed to just ruin his stats
he is being limited in terms of pitches.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummm
a MLB clubs 1st priority isnt stats its development.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
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by Jayslick on Aug 13, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland
Where does Holland project as a starter in the big leagues? 1,2,3
by CRUSHDAVIS on Aug 13, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jim Callis says he has the ceiling of a 2.
I would tend to agree.
by LiamP on Aug 13, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
92 pitches
92-64, please let him rest.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good control, it seems
I noticed on gameday, for that last K, every strike was on the inside edge of the zone, and the one ball was maybe an inch or two off the plate. I bet when he was a kid, his teachers bragged about how well he could cut on the lines. Count me impressed.
by naropean on Aug 13, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too risky gave up double
Rather have him leave with a dominating effort.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One hit led to another batters worth of pitches
You have to be careful of overworking a guy that is making his first start in a new league. He will seem like there is nothing he can do, but thats just the adrenaline.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland - thru 8 - most likely done
3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 10 K’s
by coolaid on Aug 13, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Done
They were forcing it by having him come out for the 8th. I hope this isn’t Ryans dumb idea to push these guys when they dont need to . Rather build up the strength not just let him go out and push it. 107 pitches.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
107 pitches
I don’t really like that, especially this late in the season.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 13, 2008 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 and 2 in time for playoffs
Frisco vs Midland, Rangers vs A’s farm clubs.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cahill and Anderson
vs. Feliz and Holland
What will win out, polish or stuff
by FirebatM3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that is a series to watch
Hopefully they will telecast some of those games for those depressed with the big club lack of pitching.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Bakersfield continue to struggle
they might as well start calling up Whittleman. The Frisco lineup is pretty punchless nowadays.
by FirebatM3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should
He can’t pull out of hitting about .270 even if he continues tear, let him get to Frisco and help them in the playoffs.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
could that be a preview for a 2010 playoff matchup?
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 13, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very nice game for Andrus
2 spectacular plays in the field. Now bunt hit that leads to game winning run hopefully.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
3 plays made on 2nd base side of field
Has MY done that once this year?
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYP
Has MY done that once this year decade?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 13, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two errors in the eigth
put frisco up by 3
by baseballislife on Aug 13, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what kept going through my mind? We got Jake McGee.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 13, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hopefully
he doesn’t follow the McGee career path.
Wash out your mouth before you jinx us, fool.
by FirebatM3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I mean
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 13, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland
Holland’s last.pitch of the night was 95, was ranging 92-97 on the fastball
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by Lucas on Aug 13, 2008 9:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no way
no way he’s out there for the 9th.
Anyone listening on radio?
by FirebatM3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fucking scared me.
I would have loved to punch the Frisco manager if he was pitching in the 9th.
by coolaid on Aug 13, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laughter in, Game Over
strikes out Tony Blanco to end it.
by FirebatM3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland
up by mid season next year? Maybe finish this year strong at Frisco, make a few starts there next year, the nspend about a month in OKC, and if ready then bring him on up.
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by hinduplaya on Aug 13, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He and Feliz on same timetable
Feliz might be nursed a little slower since a year younger. Yet both guys need to develop their secondary stuff. Either here or in Triple A guys will lay off the heater or catch up to it.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
If he does well and we have injuries to our staff. Otherwise, Im thinking he will be a September call-up
by baseballislife on Aug 13, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he is as good as he was tonight
It will be before September.
by tyd3311 on Aug 13, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In all reality
Both need to get stronger interms of inning limits. Both need to improve their secondary stuff. Even if we need guys, I think Rangers should be careful to not risk these guys this year at all. Next year, atleast midseason before callup.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
I would like him to get a full season of AA/AAA ball and come up in ‘10. Same thing with Feliz. Holland will be 23 at the end of next season. He’s still relatively young.
by LiamP on Aug 13, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
no need to rush them.
but it is pretty hard to count on them pitching good in their rookie seasons isnt it?
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 13, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
I wouldn’t count them to win 20 games, but maybe 10, but might lose 15 too. Yet, they need to have the secondary stuff just in case they cant locate the fastball in the big leagues.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
hopefully by 2010 hurley is ready to be a good pitcher and the same the hunter and harrison
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 13, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Switch games
Fabio Castillo in relief for Beavan with 3 innings, 2 hit ball, 2 walks, and 3 ks.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Former Horned Frog no hitting Spokane through 4
Jinx, Jinx.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Another youngin throwing well
Miguel De Los Santos with 3 innings of 1 hit, no walks and 5 ks.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Johnny Whittleman
has 78 walks so far this season. That’s a lot of walks
by FirebatM3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yet recent hot streak his walk ration dropped and K increased
Seems he is too patient for his own good, or the minor league umps have no consistency with strike zone.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Olympics
Strasburg is pitching for the US against Holland. Only a stream available but he’s already struck out the side in the first. This bastard is why someone needs to be better than Seattle this year.
by LiamP on Aug 13, 2008 9:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is he a college pitcher?
Top 2009 draft possibility?
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
College pitcher.
He’s going to be #1 unless he dies or his arm falls off. Scouts have been saying that he’s the best pitching prospect to come out of the draft since Prior, except with no injury concerns.
5ks through 2 now.
by LiamP on Aug 13, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Marson
or Teagarden catching this one?
by FirebatM3 on Aug 13, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
prior didnt have injury concerns when he was drafted
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 13, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Jim Callis said if he was available this year, he would have been the top prospect.
by FirebatM3 on Aug 13, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
Yet, Seattle needs alot more help than just a pitcher. They do have King Felix, which is widely one of the top young pitchers in the league.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is...
Strasburg has the potential to be tremendous. Felix is already a tremendous pitcher. Strasburg is 20, Felix is 22.
It would suck so much balls if Seattle got Strasburg.
by LiamP on Aug 13, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No point of thinking of things like that, if so
Then we should try getting rid of these older guys now before sept deadline. And bring up guys like Lizard, McCarthy and just let the kids play. We might lose alot more, yet then our draft position will be a lot better. Also, some of these college pitchers might have some injury and be out most of the year and drop due to it.
by gamerabcd on Aug 13, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland recap sent
by Jamey Newberg on Aug 13, 2008 11:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
5 fastballs at 97 mph, and 95 twice in the 8th. His velocity this year is crazy.
A 4:1 K:BB ratio. I love it.
I’m absolutely going crazy hoping that Feliz and Dutch are the 1-2 puch of the future for this team.
So Dutch is your big surprise huh? Can’t argue with that a whole lot, but this system is stacked right now. I can’t see the Rangers dealing Feliz, Davis, Andrus, or Dutch unless a proven ace is coming back.
Thanks for the report Jamey. I’m assuming you have seen quite a few minor league games so for you to say that was one of the 2 or 3 greatest minor league games you have ever seen pitched is just amazing. Damn I’m pumped now.
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by slc ranger on Aug 13, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland
Can anyone expand on his secondary stuff?
I keep hearing how great his fastball is, but not a ton about him having good secondary pitches.
I guess he’s a fastball/changeup/slider pitcher?
i’m still kicking myself for not going last night
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by rentz on Aug 14, 2008 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inconsistent
is probably the best way to describe them. He threw a couple of each of them that were good pitches; I think it was the sixth that I remember seeing him mix in a breaking ball that was almost slurvier (moreso than most of his handful of sliders, as far as I could tell) that was very effective, then on the next batter he got a strike two on a very good change. But the reason that you didn’t hear much about them from last night is that they just weren’t big factors.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 14, 2008 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stasburg
No-hitter broken up in the 7th.
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by badradiorules on Aug 13, 2008 11:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Nats!
Please lose out.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 13, 2008 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lemon in August
.265 / .333 / .599
Didn’t he read the community rankings?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 14, 2008 12:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hah
It’s like he said ‘f this I’m swinging for the fences’.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 14, 2008 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Smoak
Might have been posted elsewhere.
When the story about his uncertainty signing also mentions leaving media out of the negotiations, somehow it’s like a snake eating its own tail.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 14, 2008 12:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Nationals front office really screwed this up
you can’t pick players with the intention of doing what it takes to sign them, and then tell your GM that he cannot go over slot. I still think Crow signs, as will the rest of their picks, but they will really look stupid if they don’t.
by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2008 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they have 1 and 11 of next year's draft
I wonder if they’ll really be worse off.
by FirebatM3 on Aug 14, 2008 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
because they will have no leverage with the pick they gain next year. If they don’t sign that player, they will not receive compensation. Agents will know this and take advantage of it. As a result, they will more than likely have to do a predraft deal to ensure the player signs, or reach and overdraft a player they are 100 percent sure they can sign. They would be better by signing Crow and then drafting Strasburg.
by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2008 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whittleman
Went Milton Bradley on us last night…
He last two weeks have been very impressive..
by tyd3311 on Aug 14, 2008 8:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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