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Third base seems to be the weakest position in our farm system and I don't think that the expense of a free agent third baseman is worth it.  I do not really know what type of third baseman that Chris Davis was but after seeing him play very good first base defense, Could he ever move back over there if and when Smoak, if he signs, would be ready to take over.  If Smoak has GG potential at first then he should likely play first and that would likely leave Davis at DH, and I just think it would seem like a good idea to have him at least work on third again.  Could anyone tell me the kind of 3rd baseman that Davis was.

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Did he have no potential for improvement?

by CRUSHDAVIS on Aug 15, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Davis

If it appeared he was a viable long-term solution at 3B, he most likely wouldn’t have been moved back to 1B this spring.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 15, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Was there much of an option in the minors a 1b back in Spring training either though. Wasn’t Metcalf thought of fairly highly and they did expect a healthy Blalock.

by CRUSHDAVIS on Aug 15, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

They tried all last season, worked as well as FD Roosevelt’s legs

by scooterr on Aug 15, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't imagine Metcalf was thought of too highly

He hit pretty well in 2005 in A ball, but since then, he has not shown that he can hit at any of the levels he has played at.

by uthornfan on Aug 15, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

good glove

no hit

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by knockoutking on Aug 15, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

good glove

these nuts bitch

"Over the years, my favorite pastime outside baseball is driving through a pasture looking at cattle." - Nolan Ryan

by hurlerhurley on Aug 15, 2008 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Metcalf

I don’t think he’s ever been viewed as more than a potential one or two year stopgap solution until someone better comes along.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 15, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

but wasn’t his move to 1B a direct correlation to the loss of Tex and the weak candidates we brought in to replace him? If Tex was here he’d still be at 3B, wouldn’t you think?

Davis may never be a great 3B, but if he can hit in the 4-5 hole legitimately, wouldn’t you take a lesser defender at 3B?

What's the rumpus?

by Hypo-Luxa on Aug 15, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aren’t we running lesser defenders out there on a daily basis

by CRUSHDAVIS on Aug 15, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

It depends on how much lesser

If you are talking about just below-average, probably. If you are talking about Ryan Braun/Butch Hobson bad, probably not.

It also gets back to the issue of the Rangers building a groundball staff. If you have a high-K/fly ball staff, like the Cubs built a few years ago, then you can live with a crappy infield defense more readily. But having a terrible defensive infielder with a low-K, groundball staff is a problem.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 15, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

is he worse than ramon v?

Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark

by knockoutking on Aug 15, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

building a staff

It looks like we’re building staff that gives up a ton of runs. They don’t seem to care whether it’s ground ball or a fly ball as long as a run scores as a result.

by cgolden on Aug 15, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

But having a terrible defensive infielder with a low-K, groundball staff is a problem.

but it has been a problem since we acquired Sori 4 years ago. whats been done to fix it?

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Aug 15, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Infield Defense

How would this infield be in 5 years?

3b – Davis
SS – Andrus
2b – Kinsler
1st – Smoak

Andrus is suppose to be a defensive whiz, Kinsler can be (don’t through his error stats at me) a gold glover and Smoak is suppose to be a Gold glove type. Couldn’t we live with Davis at 3rd if he keeps hitting?

Let’s Max DH or Young DH or play left field.

Seems alright to me

by peachygbc_1 on Aug 15, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you'd be better off

putting Davis in RF and finding a better 3B.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Aug 15, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds Good

Crush in the outfield would be fine. With Hamilton and either Borbon or Beltre the outfield would still be above average. If Carlos Lee, Manny and Adam Dunn can play outfield, so could Davis.

by peachygbc_1 on Aug 15, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think RF...

…is the destination of hamilton sooner than later… its pretty well understood he can’t physicaly stand up to a full season in center…. plus we have bourbon[for better or worse] coming up in a season or two anyway…. to take over some of the load…

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by ivysafety39 on Aug 15, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not so sure...

about him not being able to play CF physically. This is the first full season he has played in the majors. I think he could play CF. The problem is his bat is so valuable and he is a plus defensive COF and the Rangers probably won’t risk leaving him in CF long-term. I’m fine with him going to RF or LF, but I don’t think it’s fair to say “its pretty well understood he can’t physicaly stand up to a full season in center”.

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by slc ranger on Aug 15, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmm

it’ll be more like:
1st – Smoak*
2b – Kinsler
SS – Andrus
3rd – FOTF
DH – Davis

*if the monster signs

leaves no space for maxram unless davis/smoak/maxram develop a split platoon problem…

I blame it not on Ron Washington, but on society. Society is to blame. And Ron Washington. ~Ken Tremendous on Ron Washington sac bunting in the 11th vs LAA

by ivysafety39 on Aug 15, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Smoak love

makes me want to puke. I serioulsy think he might be overrated. Hell what do I know. I picked my boy Johnny Danks to win one of the best pitchers in the AL this year

"Over the years, my favorite pastime outside baseball is driving through a pasture looking at cattle." - Nolan Ryan

by hurlerhurley on Aug 15, 2008 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

MY

What do you do with Young in 2010 when Andrus take sover at SS?

Nolan Ryan should be the Rangers president, GM, manager and pitching coach.

by RangerMad on Aug 15, 2008 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Can he pitch?

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Aug 15, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has a good arm

Remember when Pudge wanted to pitch?

by JBImaknee on Aug 15, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

supposedly pudge used to hit 96 mph as a kid

but his pop wanted him to catch b/c he would play everyday and be less likely to be injured.

smart man.

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Aug 15, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

he was the closer at navarro

and had good stats iirc

Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark

by knockoutking on Aug 15, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's the problem

JD fucked and got rid of Johnny Danks. This trade alone should have his sorry ass fired

"Over the years, my favorite pastime outside baseball is driving through a pasture looking at cattle." - Nolan Ryan

by hurlerhurley on Aug 15, 2008 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

TRADE ANDRUS

overrated piece of garbage lol

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by dstar442005 on Aug 15, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sharky

Where’s Sharky when you need him? This comment would trigger 6 posts (all replying to himself) about how LSB wants to trade prospects just for fun

What's the rumpus?

by Hypo-Luxa on Aug 15, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sharky was all for trading prospects

he just hated trading veterans.

I'm sure the Russians felt there were WMD's in Georgia, and that it was a hotbed of terrorism.

by DJCahill on Aug 15, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

where is he now?

Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark

by knockoutking on Aug 15, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

He was traded

to some white power blog or something.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Aug 15, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

well that white power blog

is probably better than a thug ass black blog that does nothing but rap shit that makes no sense that shark and myself can’t understand

"Over the years, my favorite pastime outside baseball is driving through a pasture looking at cattle." - Nolan Ryan

by hurlerhurley on Aug 15, 2008 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude

get back on that wagon.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Aug 15, 2008 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't call me dude

I hate that

"Over the years, my favorite pastime outside baseball is driving through a pasture looking at cattle." - Nolan Ryan

by hurlerhurley on Aug 16, 2008 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, there's your car!

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by inactive lsb user on Aug 16, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

There...

…are a lot of things you and Sharky don’t understand. English is one.

by Black Francis on Aug 16, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

See?

It’s been so long I’m starting to forget his schtick

What's the rumpus?

by Hypo-Luxa on Aug 15, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

shark was not

he was bitching at your bedwetterblanco

"Over the years, my favorite pastime outside baseball is driving through a pasture looking at cattle." - Nolan Ryan

by hurlerhurley on Aug 15, 2008 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

IMO

Chris Davis looked great when he played 3rd for those 2 games

Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers for the next two years

by Seth. on Aug 15, 2008 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Davis could probably play third ...

and I expect he could improve his defense sufficiently so that his incredible bat would more than outweigh any runs he gave back at third. But I think he’s got the makings of a very good defensive first baseman. Realistically, I think you end up, maybe as early as next season, with Andrus at short and Young at third. I would imagine that when/if Smoak is ready, you may see Davis shift to RF or, if Davis is still dominant, you may see Smoak shipped for a very good arm.

Either way, I hope to hell they hold on to Davis. I’m convinced his bat could end up making Tex’s Texas numbers look pedestrian by comparison.

by Athos on Aug 15, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

yep

he can play 3B and he can play some some OF too. Hell Chros Davis is so going to be the best come 2009

"Over the years, my favorite pastime outside baseball is driving through a pasture looking at cattle." - Nolan Ryan

by hurlerhurley on Aug 15, 2008 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Question

I haven’t followed Whilttleman this year, but most of you guys say he’s gone backwards and might not be the future at 3B. I was wondering, whats been the probelm? Has it been hittinh? Fielding? Or pretty much everything?

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by MayurP on Aug 15, 2008 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

He draws walks

by the ton, but he’s super streaky as a hitter. His defense is terrible.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Aug 15, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Johnny

is better than sorry ass Adam Fox. However, Hindman said he has a hip flexor injury :(

"Over the years, my favorite pastime outside baseball is driving through a pasture looking at cattle." - Nolan Ryan

by hurlerhurley on Aug 15, 2008 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want Davis...

back at 3rd. It would just be for 1 year ’til MY took over there in 2010 when Andrus is ready. Keep him at 1B and when Smoak is ready then decide if he can play RF or if he will DH and occasionally play 1B.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 15, 2008 3:21 PM CDT reply actions  

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