How waivers work
Derek Zumsteg has a good post over at U.S.S. Mariner, explaining how the waiver process works...
There are some good details I wasn't aware of in there, so even if you think you know everything there is to know about waivers and post-deadline deals, check it out...
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I enjoy waiver period
I think it was Jose Canseco about ten years or so who was claimed by the Yankees, and the Rays just let him go. So the yankees were stuck with Jose and his fat contract. People forget this – but this is fundamental to the process – it is why Kevin Millwood, Cat, and possibly Padilla are still tradeable until August 31 – teams don’t claim guys unless they are prepared to take on their contract, no questions asked.
by JBImaknee on Aug 15, 2008 11:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone forward this to Josh,
I think San Diego has the most infamous waiver deal but I can’t remember who was involved. I think it was a RP with 3 years on his deal who was ineffective that season and hurt the two following.
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by nikpin on Aug 15, 2008 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Randy Myers
I typed “Brett” at first, of course…but it was Randy Myers.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 15, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the one.
I wiki’d Mike Myers but didn’t find anything and searced San Diego waiver deals RP bad but nothing popped up.
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by nikpin on Aug 15, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick Wiki Cut & Paste
Myers had 28 saves for the Blue Jays in his final season, 1998, before being traded back to the Padres after being claimed on waivers. Though he was under contract for both 1999 and 2000, he did not pitch in the Major Leagues after 1998.
In 2000, Myers earned a salary of $6,916,667.00 while unable to pitch due to a damaged shoulder. Most of his 1999 and 2000 seasons were spent receiving treatment in the Padres training room after undergoing rotator cuff surgery in 1999; his injury resulted in a legal dispute between the Padres and their insurance carrier after the carrier denied an $8 million claim due to Myers’ inability to play
The Padres’ 1998 waiver claim of Myers is considered one of the biggest blunders in the history of the waiver wire. The Padres did not want Myers, mostly because of the $12 million and 2 additional years remaining on his contract as well as the fact that they already had an established closer in Trevor Hoffman, but placed a waiver claim in order to prevent him from going to the rival Atlanta Braves. They expected the Blue Jays to rescind their waiver claim, but the Blue Jays instead allowed the waiver claim to go through, leaving them responsible for the rest of his contract
For some reason I’ve always like that story.
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by nikpin on Aug 15, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One other thing
Trying to find waiver info on Google is tough, because what you end up getting is a lot of fantasy league waiver crap.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 15, 2008 11:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: Rehab
From TRSullivan’s blog post this morning:
Custom holds that a Major League play pays for the post-game spread when he is in the Minors on medical rehabilitation assignment. Hank Blalock has already paid for seven spreads and is still has another three-game rehab assignment coming. Said Blalock, “I get whatever restaurant is near: Outback, Mexican, Italian, whatever is closest.”
Blalock is going to go bankrupt.
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by t ball on Aug 15, 2008 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I remember when the Ho was down and paid for 2 things:
Jack and shit.
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by Brian Thomas on Aug 15, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question for you, Adam
If say, I’m JD and I know Theo really wants a certain player on waivers, can I claim him first and acquire him, then put him on waivers again or the purposes of trading him to the Red Sox?
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by Brian Thomas on Aug 15, 2008 12:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Based on what Zumsteg says...
…the 2nd time a player is put on waivers, it becomes irrevocable if he is claimed.
So if you tried to do that, Boston could claim the player and say, I’m not giving you jack for him, and Boston would get him.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 15, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems unclear from this:
"If a player’s pulled back, a team can request a waiver on the same player again (this is kind of confusing in the rules, by the way, which says "no you can’t request waivers twice" and then "requesting waivers twice in the same period…")
In this case, the waivers are irrevocable: the requesting team can’t pull the player back. So if you request again post-August 1st, the second time whoever wins the claim war automatically gets them. They don’t have to make a deal or anything."
I read that as the second time a team puts a player on waivers, rather than necessarily the 2nd time a player is put on waivers. Is there some other section that covers this situation more in-depth?
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by Brian Thomas on Aug 15, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for the purposes
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by Brian Thomas on Aug 15, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
40 man roster queries
1. A/o the last game of the world series, do your free agents drop off of your 40 man roster or must you keep them on the roster to keep there rights? So this would apply to: nippert, wright, rheinecker, guardado, jennings, bradley and vazquez.
2. Is there a deadline for picking up player options (blalock) – last game of world series?
by Goyogringo on Aug 15, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AFAIK
Free agents drop off when they file for free agency.
Usually there is a deadline for picking up an option, although that deadline can vary and is generally one of the terms of the contract.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 15, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And of course you have until Dec.5 to offer arbitration, whether they file for FA or not
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by Brian Thomas on Aug 15, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
once they file for free agency, they drop off the 40 man roster but we keep their rights unless they sign with another team or accept our arbitration offer…?
by Goyogringo on Aug 15, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
we don’t keep their rights. The process is something like this: We offer arbitration, player declines and files for free agency thus becoming a free agent and available to all teams
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by bigsteve on Aug 15, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although pretty much everybody eligible files in November (I think starting like Nov. 10)
Big Steve is right, except that the player has already filed for FA before we offer arb.
That leads to the reason we lost all those picks when John Hart came aboard. He didn’t wait to see if scrubs like Powell and TVP would be offered arb, instead signing them before Dec. 5.
That’s also what happened w/ Cat, although word on the street was that the Indians were gonna pursue him hard, the jays knew this, and as such were definitely going to offer arb, and as a consequence, we thought we couldn’t afford to wait. Obviously, that didn’t work out so well.
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by Brian Thomas on Aug 15, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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