Sunday a.m. stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2008 10:15 AM CDT
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The Rangers needed that start from Matt Harrison yesterday. Hell, I think we, as fans, needed it.
17 straight outs to end his outing, no walks, and only three hits in eight innings (two of them in the first inning). Evan Grant says the key was throwing strikes and not walking anyone, along with some mechanical adjustments Harrison got to work on in an extra bullpen session.
If Vicente Padilla can't throw a bullpen today, he won't be able to start on Tuesday, and apparently will likely head to the d.l. Daniels also says Brandon McCarthy could be a "consideration" soon, and Evan Grant says "consideration" is Rangers code for something being up.
The Justin Smoak contract holdup was apparently over Smoak's insistence on a major league deal. Smoak will be a Lumberking this coming week.
Tom Hicks says Nolan Ryan is going to oversee an overhaul in the organization's approach to pitching. Something is wrong with the way the organization is dealing with pitching, but I'm not sure Ryan is the most qualified person to overhaul things. But I'm going to withhold judgment until more details are available.
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Smoak's "expected" CLN debut
Dave Lezotte seems to think he’ll play in this afternoon’s 2:00 CLN game –
Smoak will join the LumberKings tomorrow [Sunday] afternoon as they take on the Peoria Chiefs.
– extra bonus will be Tim Murphy’s debut as the CLN starter.
by shroomer on Aug 17, 2008 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh
Supposedly, Smoak thinks he needs a few days to get his timing back, because he hasn’t been facing live pitching.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Conflicting stories. I’ll believe it [Smoak playing this afternoon] when I see it.
by shroomer on Aug 17, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moreland
Anyone predicting he moves to Bakersfield? Or has he played OF some?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 17, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a decent RF'er
He’s played there lots this season. DH is always an option, too – for Smoak as well.
by shroomer on Aug 17, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I didn't know Murphey
had been promoted.
Tommy Hunter part lefty?
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoak just arrived at the CLN ballpark
Per the radio guys – won’t be in the lineup today. Due to play tomorrow.
by shroomer on Aug 17, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they say how they plan on using him and Moreland?
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moreland played in right...
…when Gac was in Clinton. Probably will move back.
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by Lucas on Aug 17, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine with me
he might develop into a decent corner prospect there with his plate discipline and power.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 17, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moreland
He had been putting up a nice season so far, but was just lacking some power for a 1B/OFer type. Now 5 HRs in 5 games raising his OPS to .924. Looking forward to seeing if he can destroy the CAL league next year.
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by badradiorules on Aug 17, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn right...
Ranger fans needed that start. The last 4 games were more than painful to watch. Just a great start by Matt. With all the contol issues our pitchers have had this year 0 BB’s was great.
I figured, as I’m sure many did, that the hold up with Smoak was a ML deal. JD called his bluff knowing that he didn’t want to go back to school. Risky, but great move by him.
At this point I’d rather see BMAc just work on things at OKC and come back next year. How nice would it be to see him get 4 or 5 really good starts in before the end of the year though.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 17, 2008 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
pitching woes
“Something is wrong with the way the organization is dealing with pitching, but I’m not sure Ryan is the most qualified person to overhaul things. But I’m going to withhold judgment until more details are available.”
If Ryan is not qualified to “overhaul” the way the organization is dealing with pitching, then who might that be?
¡yo soy Horsedooty!
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Aug 17, 2008 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know
The “best” person in a field isn’t necessarily the “best” or most-qualified person to teach or lead.
by brettgardner on Aug 17, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
each situation is independent of itself.
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ted Williams
Great ballplayer, lousy manager.
And conversely, being a poor player doesn’t mean you can’t be a good coach or manager.
Looking at three of the best pitching coaches of this generation-
Leo Mazzone pitched in the minors for eight years, never making the majors.
Rick Peterson pitched four seasons in the minors (with a 5.67 career ERA) and never made the majors.
Dave Duncan didn’t pitch at all- he was a catcher, and hit .214 over 11 seasons.
That’s not to say Nolan can’t teach pitching, or that he can’t hire someone who can, but I don’t know that he’s got some sort of magic qualifications just because he’s a Hall of Famer, either.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Aug 17, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then who? Let's hear some names.
How about you, Adam. If Nolan isn’t qualified, come up with some valid altenatives.
You would insist the same from someone who said JD wasn’t qualified. Wait, you did!
I Stole The Red Finger !
by Clueless on Aug 17, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leo F'n Mazzone
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 17, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Balt
What did he do in Baltimore?
Nolan Ryan should be the Rangers president, GM, manager and pitching coach.
by RangerMad on Aug 17, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
even santa cant turn turds into gold
and look what happened to super schmuck once he was out of mazzone’s hands in Seattle?
him and peterson. hire them both for the conner/chiti roles. give them the power to control the development from top to bottom of the pitching in the system and “roll on, big mama!”
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 17, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh.
For some people it’s Steal Home. For me, horsedooty.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 17, 2008 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh
just asking a question. You can bring any thing you want to the question but for me it was just a question.
¡yo soy Horsedooty!
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Aug 17, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best Ranger pitching performance of the year?
Pretty clearly the first time he has ever looked at a web site. "And there are readers' comments at the bottom! And advertisements for products! And best of all, I won a free iPod!"
-Ken Tremendous on Mike Downey.
by BudLight on Aug 17, 2008 10:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure...
but it was damn sure the most encouraging one for me at least.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 17, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably
The best I can think of are
Gabbard at LAA
Padilla vs Minnesota twice
Feldman at NYY
Harrison vs LAA
But I dont think any of those can match up with Harrison’s last night.
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by hinduplaya on Aug 17, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched Harrison's first 7 innings yesterday
and I watched him throw that no-hitter live in Frisco a few weeks ago, but for the life of me I just can’t get excited about him. I find him completely underwhelming. Hope I’m wrong and he quits getting shelled every other start.
by shroomer on Aug 17, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
saw him twice
in Frisco and came away completely underwhelmed as well. I’ve also seen Diamond live a coupe of times as well(one being his 8(?) walk performance and I am certain he has NO future in the bigs(yes, that is a complete amateur eval. but if blogs aren’t for opinions then what are they good for?)….how’s his control coming along?(Blame it on the TJ…..) yeah right, its the TJ’s fault.
I’m afraid any pitcher who may really help us are multiple years away(maybe, just maybe Feliz nxt year at some point). I shudder when thinking of next years rotation.
By the way, if JD stocks this rotation full of injury prone pitchers(Millwood, BMac, Gabbard, Jennings(this year)) he deserves some heat for the rotation woes and the injury excuse seems invalid considering he knew the history with many of these guys……
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh.
Gabbard and Jennings maybe, but that’s about it from that list.
by brettgardner on Aug 17, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many innings did Bmac and Millwood
throw the year before. BMac especially. Thats at least 3 guys(Gabbard, BMac, Jennings) who probably didnt throw 100 innings the year before making up your rotation.
A litlte research may prove me wrong but alas I am incapable of such things…..
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A very little.
You’re the worst poster here I think.
At least the “bit” guys are funny.
by brettgardner on Aug 17, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im
saying the staff was injury prone……are you suggesting otherwise?
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2007Innings
Millwood – 172
Padilla – 120
BMac – 101
Jennings – 99
Gabbard – 81
I’ll get around to looking up their 2007 DL stints……..I’m sure they were numerous.
Boy I’d hate to argue with you in front of a jury of our piers…….
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
piers
ha!
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by Dirk Diggler on Aug 17, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Piers
Would that be as in Pier One, or Piers Plowman? :)
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by RCCook on Aug 17, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
folks….
perhaps foundation piers(what I happen to install for a living), but really their are know excuses four misproper word usage and/oar misspellings……….
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah.
You were talking about when they were acquired.
by brettgardner on Aug 17, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
I’m talking about going in to this season there should have been some expectation of injuries and that to simply say injuries got in the way isnt a valid excuse and should not give JD a free pass on this years rotation.
Waiting for you to explain how this staff should not have been considered injury prone……although I don’t have high expectations.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before they were acquired
Before we acquired these players they were not injury prone.
Millwood: Had made 30 starts and pitched 175+ innings in 6 of his 8 full seasons in the majors.
McCarthy: Im assuming he had an injury in 2004 since he only pitched 50 innings in High A ball but thats all.
The injuries since they got here can’t be blamed on JD.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
going into this season......
would you have considered injuries to be a major concern given the recent history of the rotation?
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats not the point
you said “if JD stocks this rotation with injury prone pitchers…”. As much as some people want to just cut ties with Millwood its not a smart business move to just throw 11+ million dollars down the drain. Millwood will have a spot in the rotation next year unless some other team wants to take him off our hands. So you have to look back to when we acquired him. He was not a injury prone player. Just like BMac wasn’t injury prone when we acquired him. I really wouldn’ty even consider Jennings injury prone simply because that term to me implies they are constantly injured. To me Ben Sheets is injury prone. Jennings was coming off an injury which you can complain all you want about. Gabbard has a history of injuries so there is no argument there. But Millwod and BMac were not considered injury prone in my eyes.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who said
There was no expectation of injuries? Every team expects injuries.
Since you’re so keen on research, why not take a look at every staff in the league? You’ll probably find a guy or two who’s spent some time on the DL.
by brettgardner on Aug 17, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
obvious man
strikes again….
injuries are always a concern…….
Just more of a concern depending on one’s past.
For examper, who is more injury prone Sheets or CC?
If you sign Sheets you sure as shit better not use an injury from him as an excuse for your season going down the shitter. Some injuries come out of left field…..others do not(see Milton Bradley)
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goddamnit.
It’s so frustrating arguing with a boob.
If you sign Sheets you sure as shit better not use an injury from him as an excuse for your season going down the shitter. Some injuries come out of left field…..others do not
Now you’re talking about injuries that come out of left field—sorta like a guy who’s never had an injury all of a sudden falling apart and needing major surgery? Yeah?
But hey, by your “non-obvious-man” logic, once Blake Beavan gets here and pulls a hamstring, though he’s shown no signs of injury, he’s a bust that JD should have weeded out.
Good job man. I think you have a future in column-writing.
by brettgardner on Aug 17, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s so frustrating arguing with a boob.
be the bigger man and walk away, Obvious Man.
by oc on Aug 17, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
last.ditch.effort
Injuries out of left field should not be held against a GM.
No injury to BMac, Gabbard, or Jennings this season would fit the “out of left field” variety. Based on their recent careers all three would fit the label of “injury-prone”
When JD acquired BMac was he injury prone? Certainly not. I give JD the aforementioned free pass on BMac last year. This year is a different story. If 3/5 of your rotation pitched a 100 innings or less the year before due to injury I would suggest that constitutes an injury prone staff. Add Millwood who showed signs of breaking down last year and you headed into this season with MAJOR injury concerns this year.
JD would have a hard time presenting a case that the Rangers were blindsided by injuries. He should have seen them coming, or at least realized the fine line he would be walking with this years staff.
So if the, “well, we kind of fell apart because of injuries” excuse works for you then your astuteness knows no bounds.
Oh yeah, I saw a new job posting on texasrangers.com that you would be perfect for……JD’s Mouthpiece.
woops, just noticed that applicants reading comprehension must be above 5th grade…..sorry brett. I guess that leaves the position open for bigsteve.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally
I think my reading comprehension is pretty high— it has to be to understand your verbose, rambling and error-filled writing, to say nothing of your logic.
But hey, congrats on taking all day to come up with that little sweetheart. You really put me in my place.
by brettgardner on Aug 17, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry....
I had to step away from the CPU for a girls U5 coaching clinic(soccer).
The instructor couldnt believe all the notes I was taking…..little did he know that I was madly scribbling and composing my future post/reply to brettgardner.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROFL
how’d it go? kinda curious.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 17, 2008 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh
So you agree that when he acquired BMac he was not considered injury prone. Yet after one year of injuries he all of a sudden becomes injury prone and we should have known it? Injury prone usually means has a history of injuries. One season of injuries doesn’t constitute a history. Milton Bradley has a history of injuries. Ben Sheets has a history of injuries. Now going into next season I can see calling BMac injury prone since the previous two seasons have been cut short due to injuries.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
matter of opinion
I think the likelihood of the staff being decimated by injuries was high coming into the season, you apparently did not.
Given your assertion that BMac now fits the injury prone label you gotta believe this staff needs an overhaul of the highest order and people like BMac should be considered a bonus when and if you get any productivity from them. Please lets not head into next year relying on him in any capacity. ditto for Millwood and Gabbard.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ponson
complete game shutout against the twins
by SteveP on Aug 17, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
too bad he gets a little boozy and showed up his coach when they wanted to bump his start for Millwood.
Interestingly I: CJ showed up his coach(and has dissed teammates in general terms on this very site) and still has a job.
Interestingly II: Byrd called out his pitching staff and still has a job.
Interestingly III: Milton try’s to go after an announcer and still has a job.
I’d say Ponson disgraced the team no worse than the above examples and his abilities and contributions would be imminently more usefull to this team right now. Mark Ponson’s release down as an overeaction and a bad move.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
por
que?
You certainly disproved my assertions……you win again!
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid.
You really think unleashing some racial epithets to your manager and perhaps getting into fights with your teammates is the same thing as making some dumb moves/comments on the field?
Wait— why am I criticizing you? You obviously have a weapon that those involved didn’t: ignorant speculation! Shit man, we outta hoist you on our shoulders and drop you off in Hicks’ office so you can fire everybody and then kick his ass.
by brettgardner on Aug 17, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
proof
of the racial epithets?
and why in the world would the Yanks go after such a guy? He should obviously be locked away for his antics.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it didn't happen while he was on the Yankees
Think of it this way; If Pacman had committed his various misdeeds having been drafted by the Cowboys, would he be a Cowboy right now? No. Because the team would very ikely have been forced into a situation that warranted getting rid of him for the greater good. But because his slate is clean in Dallas, JJ will look like a genius when Pac and T-New form one of the top CB duos in football.
Pretty clearly the first time he has ever looked at a web site. "And there are readers' comments at the bottom! And advertisements for products! And best of all, I won a free iPod!"
-Ken Tremendous on Mike Downey.
by BudLight on Aug 17, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course
I thinks the Titans are idiots for essentially giving him away……
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by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because
you could not……
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you dont know what really happened with Ponson
and no one on this board really knows. it was obviously worse than those 3 things you just mentioned and Byrd called out the pitching staff because they allowed 10 runs a game. big deal.
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 17, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was because....
He was a loud lush and when you have someone like Josh Hamilton who is a recovering addict and is our best player on the team, league, you make a decision to keep that as far away from him as possible.
Honorable JK
by Strangers on Aug 17, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sloooooow down
on the best player in the league stuff…..
FWIW there were reports that JHam wasn’t everyones favorite person in Cincy. Supposedly wasnt satisfied with keeping his love for Jesus to himself but liked prosthelyzing to his teammates. While that may bewhat a “good Christian” is supposed to do his teammates didnt enjoy it. If for a minute you buy into the “they traded JHam because they had Bruce waiting in the wings” then your naivete is appreciated by Hicks, JD, and co.
Why exactly wouldnt Cincy role with both Bruce andJHam? They traded the "best player in the league(your description) for a pitcher who had hardly shown a thing at the Major League level(ask LSB)? Why oh why would they do that?
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're correct, red...
so expect derision. Some people resent intelligence.
I Stole The Red Finger !
by Clueless on Aug 17, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
complete game, 1 run
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 17, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why..
does adam hate nolan ryan with all his heart and soul?
by captain freakin' magic on Aug 17, 2008 10:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who says he does?
There seem to be two kinds of people here: those who think Ryan walks on water, and those the walk on water crowd think hate Ryan with all of their hearts and souls. Is it possible to think Ryan is great, but not a deity here without someone posting a comment like yours?
I know your post is sarcasm, but that sarcasm works because there are so many here and at the DMN blog (even moreso) that would post that comment sincerely.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 17, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Him and Cyrax
toss up.
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by Chase Irwin on Aug 17, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speculation per mlbtraderumors.com
Of the pitchers in the rotation, Scott Olsen seems the most likely to be traded. One scout told Jackson the Marlins could “get a lot” for Olsen and they have Andrew Miller who could take his spot.
So what does it take to get Scott Olsen?
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Meh.
He’s alright, but I wouldn’t break the bank for him.
by brettgardner on Aug 17, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Olsen
An asshole? You know, the DWI and resisting arrest and three separate fights with teammates Miggy Cabrera, Randy Messenger, & Sergio Mitre. What are we, the Cowboys?
by Rangerchick on Aug 17, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
easy now
lets not make him out to be Ponson…….
consistency or an intelligent train of thought from tyd……don’t count on it.
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by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Great points.. The Cowboys had a bye and home field advantage throughout the playoffs, maybe we should be.
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who last won a playoff game? rangers or cowboys
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by Steal Home on Aug 17, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers
"Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states" - Barack Obama
by DaheelzCM on Aug 17, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is amazing
and you think of how sad DFW sports have become (with the mild exception of the Stars)
"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno
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by hinduplaya on Aug 17, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
luckily im a steeler fan
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by Steal Home on Aug 17, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know..... THAT FIGURES!
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 17, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're the best
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 17, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so was
MB and it didnt stop us from taking him and turning him around.
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by hinduplaya on Aug 17, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they do here
but did they in Cleveland or in SD??
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by hinduplaya on Aug 17, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Further research would be needed.
not it.
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this just in, michael vick has broke from prison and will practice with the cowboys
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 17, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yawn
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by Chase Irwin on Aug 17, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Missed that around here. Welcome home.
by brettgardner on Aug 17, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
step back....
To be the Cowboys the Rangers would actually have to win something….
by 12pounders on Aug 17, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley's health problems are ridiculous
Re-signing that guy would be a monumental mistake.
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by DaheelzCM on Aug 17, 2008 11:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm beginning to come around on this...
…i wouldn’t mind at all if Max Ramirez was my DH next year.
by oc on Aug 17, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least
he’s not hurt……
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hes on the DL right now
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
;-)
I know……..
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If your'e happy with a good offense.
For our offense to be great, our #4 hitter has to be scary.
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your right
Milton scares the shit out of people…..
particularly trainers, opposing broadcasters,and umpires.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go get Burrell then.
RH’ed bat, OBP machine, could probably be a remote option at 1B if Davis gets bopped on the head.
by Rangerchick on Aug 17, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The more I think about it,
The more I want Manny.
1) Assuming we make a move to get a pitcher first.
2) We just flat out need a righty behind Hamilton.
3) Manny brings fans to the ballpark, could make for a fun season next year.
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't understand how you guys get sidetracked with the offense...
fuck the offense…
lemme ask ya’… are you willing to shell out that kind of dough… for a “DH”?
because that man will never play left field for my team.
by oc on Aug 17, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The second you stop improving
you start to get freaking worse.
To say that our offense is fine so we shouldn’t look for any offensive upgrades is folly.
I don’t know that I’d advocate bringing in a DH like Burrell or Dunn considering what they’ll cost, but I think a blanket “fuck the offense” is a bit much, no?
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by thedirkatron on Aug 17, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny
would have been a great idea a couple of years ago. Too old to spend that kind of money on.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 17, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny
has 2 great years left in him.
Manny has a great work ethic, he is in great condition, there have been no signs of him slowing down.. you can point to his 1st half numbers, but considering what he has done since being traded, I think we can attribute most of that to his spite towards the front office of the Sox.
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we cant spend money on hitting
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 17, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny wants to sign with the Yankees...
so that he can stick it to the SOX…
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by LAMuscleFag on Aug 17, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Righty bat
I’m on board with that, but I think Max Ramirez would be fairly solid next year at a much, much cheaper price that wouldn’t require losing a draft pick.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 17, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we let him go for nothing?
I was surprised we didn’t try to trade him at the deadline. He didn’t do anything last year so he’ll probably end up deemed a Type B, but of course we have to offer him arby first. Doubt we’ll want to risk doing that, so we’ll probably end up with squat when we could have gotten something before.
by Rangerchick on Aug 17, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be a type A
We will definitely offer arbitration because that only ties us into a one year deal which I think is fine if he accepts.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't Elias use the previous two years
instead of just the previous one in its evaluation process? Bradley was a ghost last year.
by Rangerchick on Aug 17, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He only played in 61 games but he had an OPS+ of 153
All you have to be is top 20% of eligible free agents at your position and since there isn’t a strong OF crop of FAs he will most certainly be a type A
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
elias rankings
are against all players, not just FAs
But I think he’ll be type A anyway, esp. after this year
by JBImaknee on Aug 17, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
And they pro-rate that shit out taking injuries into consideration, so his raw numbers are gonna very easily put him in the type-A category.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 17, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great start by matt
seems like every time the count was 0-2 and he only had 1 hard hit ball of him
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 17, 2008 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nolan Ryan = Jerry West
Tony Romo's #1 fan!
by Longhorn on Aug 17, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The man who saved the Grizz?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 17, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Kobe draft-slash-trade was brilliant
but the Shaq signing was the most obvious move in the long illustrious history of obvious freaking moves.
What else did he do in his career as a GM that was so great?
I’m honestly asking. I don’t know much about his carrer other than the debacle as the Grizz-Guy and the Shaq/Kobe pairing.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2008 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That beats
Nolan Ryan = Dottie West by a mile.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 17, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about
Nolan Ryan = Adam West. The Family Guy version.
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by badradiorules on Aug 17, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers pitching problems
Hey Mr. Ryan
its simple, there needs to be change! The Rangers need to look at who is in charge of the care and training of the pitching staff. I know for a fact there are some players who have no confidence in the medical care and their conditioning coach. To me, if a player thinks this way…there must be some truth the fact. It sure matches up to their poor performance. In fact Mr. Ryan a pitcher on the staff told me that they did have a good program before and then Mr. Daniels fired the coach. Someone needs to ask why? and if this guys is good as they say he is, then what are you and Tom hicks waiting for?
Some one go find this guy and ask him what is wrong with the Rangers and their pitching
by Ronin on Aug 17, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This post is hilarious
“There needs to be change!” Wow, it’s so simple. Thank you, please run for president.
“If a player thinks this way there must be some truth”…or maybe it’s just that player’s opinion. That player may be right, but your wording is wrong. Something is not automatically true just because a player thinks it.
“Someone needs to ask why?” Do you think the Rangers just fire coaches for no reason with no discussion?
If they do find that guy and ask him what’s wrong guess what he’s going to say. He’ll say “you’ve had a terrible run of injuries, and the young guys that had to come up to pick up the slack are struggling as they adjust to the big leagues, which is 100% predictable.”
You make it sound like all of the injuries were predictable and/or completely due to bad conditioning. There may be some need for adjustments there, but you’re blind if you don’t see that sometimes players just get injured. The emotional need to affix blame is strong, but not always a fruitful way to move forward.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 17, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYI
Harrison’s game score of 84 was the Rangers’ best in three years. That’s nearly 500 starts.
by jamcadbury on Aug 17, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Adam....
why isn’t Nolan qualified?
I’m not of the “Nolan and his HOF ring will fix’em” crowd at all. Still, I wonder why every time Nolan is brought up you feel the need to remind us that “you’re not sure he’s qualified”. So lay it out for me man. Why isn’t he qualified?
by bdavison94 on Aug 17, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what the hell.....
happened to the body of my post?
basically it said…
Why isn’t Nolan qualified? I’m not in the “Nolan and his HOF ring will fix’em” crowd at all. Still, I don’t understand why you feel the need to remind us you don’t think he’s qualified every time his name is brought up. So tell me man, why isn’t he qualified?
by bdavison94 on Aug 17, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
His sole qualification appears to be that he pitched in the majors for a long time. He hasn’t done anything in terms of player development or scouting ever.
I’m just not to sure that the fact that he’s a HOF pitcher means much in terms of implementing a plan for all the pitchers in a system.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally agree!!
Nolan Ryan was a great pitcher……..that’s all he ever will be.
I have never seen proof that he has the mental capability to develop and maintain an organization or a pitching staff from top to bottom.
If we ever stumble upon decent pitching, I don’t think it will have to do with Nolan as much as it will have to do with luck when it comes to this team.
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by bspate on Aug 17, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget about mental capability
I don’t think he has the vocal capability. I can’t understand more than 2 words a sentence from that guy. It all becomes one long, multisyllabic guttural sound.
by brettgardner on Aug 17, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. boomhower
Hank Hill’s back-woods talking neighbor and one of his best friends, from the show, King of the Hill. His full name is Jeff Boomhower, he is an electrical engineer, has a deceased father but mother is still alive. He has a brother name Patch. He has never been married but came close with at lest one girl. He is a ladies man and has a ‘76 Dodge. He was a quarter-back on his high school’s varsity football team and, according to the odometer on Hank Hill’s F-150, lives exactly 1/10th of a mile from Hank’s house.
by robert_d_wilfong on Aug 17, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when I
put Nolan through a translator it normally comes out, “we are now selling Nolan Ryan beef at the ballpark, come to the game, dont come to the game , but please buy some goddamned beef….”
He lost all credibilty(as did the organization) when they allowed this guy to hawk his beef on local radio and at the stadium. Talk about synergies…..sheesh.
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who said that's the reason?
Tony Romo's #1 fan!
by Longhorn on Aug 17, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
too bad you don’t use the same logic in regards to JD and Wash. They were hired because they were the cheapest hires Hicks could make. Their respective experience at the jobs they were hired for was ZERO. If Wash’s years of being a 3rd base coach, or bench coach , or whatever the hell he was qualifies him then by all means Nolan gets to use his 20 years of ML pitching on his resume…..
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 17, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"His sole qualification appears to be that he pitched in the majors for a long time. He hasn’t done anything in terms of player development or scouting ever."
Did you really say that, Adam?
So Jon Daniels was absolutley not qualified, based on your criteria.
And Ron Washington was not qualified, based on your criteria.
And what qualifies you to run this blog? A law degree?
Sorry, but that wasn’t a thoughtful response.
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by Clueless on Aug 17, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right back at ya.
Qualifications include those pesky little things called “QUALITIES”, not just job titles.
by brettgardner on Aug 17, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are so dumb
I just laughed at you for like 15 straight seconds.
Wow.
So dumb.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2008 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
you are hilariously stupid. Please continue.
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by Chase Irwin on Aug 18, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm partially with you
I agree with you that just because you were a HOF pitcher doesn’t mean that you are qualified to implement a plan for all the pitchers in a system. However, I think to say that his sole qualification appears to be that he pitched in the majors for a long time is selling him a little short.
Nolan wasn’t just some guy that was a really good pitcher. He was at the forefront of his era in strength and conditioning as well as being ahead of the curve (along with Tom House) on breaking down mechanics. Nolan Ryan’s Pitching Bible was a fixture for many years that young pitchers modeled themselves by.
Ryan is credited by some for turning Randy Johnson from a big guy that threw hard into an elite pitcher. I’ve also read places where he would come in from time to time to work with individual pitchers in the Astros organization with varying levels of success.
While I admit that his insistence that all the young pitchers go deeper into games scares the hell out of me and the idea that he’ll want to turn back the clock to 1975 in how they handle pitchers scares me as well. I understand if you disagree with his philosophies on pitching or conditioning or handling pitchers, but just to chalk him up as some guy who "pitched in the majors for a long time" is misrepresenting him a little.
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by badradiorules on Aug 17, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
per mlbtraderumors.com
Tom Hicks says the Rangers will look for free agents this offseason that fit the team, but he doubts they will offer any long-term deals to pitchers over 30. That doesn’t rule out C.C. Sabathia or Oliver Perez.
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
or Garland
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm Johnsons a bit over 30 I believe
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
short-term.
I doubt Johnson will be looking for a long-term deal.
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Johnson would leave Arizona
For anything less than 3 years
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may
want to finish his career in the state of Texas.
I bet 2, 12-15 per, could get him.
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odds
We have to have as a good a chance as anyone as signing him, if we choose to try… Arizona, Houston, and Texas.
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give up your quest
Don Q…you ain’t winning this one.
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by Rodney on Aug 17, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What tie does he have to Texas?
by robert_d_wilfong on Aug 17, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he had some tie to the state...
maybe not, but he did play for Houston previously. And we all know about the Nolan, Randy connectoin. If you dont, then……….
In his next-to-last season with the Rangers, The 45-year-old Ryan mentioned to Randy that he was landing on his heel when he strode toward home plate. Ryan suggested that he try landing on his foot. Texas pitching coach Tom House concurred. This, they said, might be the key to the consistency that had eluded Randy.
by tyd3311 on Aug 17, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randy Johnson supposedly...
…hated playing in Houston. I think there’s no chance he comes to Texas.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoak
starts tomorrow for Clinton, DH or 1B.
by gamerabcd on Aug 17, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
weather
Crap! I am planning on attending this game. Not sure when they would reschedule it if it did get cancelled. They both have the 21st off, but I think there’s a rule in the CBA on the number of consecutive games without a day off that would preclude the 21st. It may have to wait until after the final game of the season if necessary.
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by DerekSTheRed on Aug 17, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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