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Time to update or tear down RBIA?

When I think about the lack of a roof, the fear of pitchers to come here and that there are things I don't like about RBIA, I find myself asking... should RBIA go under a major foul pole to foul pole outfield reconstruction and major scoreboard and sound update or should the Rangers just build a new retractable stadium?

In a reconstruction I would tear down EVERYTHING in the outfield (the office building, the left field seats (all levels) back to the foul pole, tear down the bleachers, tear down the bullpens and get rid of the home run porch in right field.)

I would remove a few rows of seating and move the home bullpen down the 1st base side and include an air conditioned extension to the air conditioned Rangers dugout. I would leave the visitors bullpen in a reconfigure left field setup.

I would move the fences back 10 feet from left to the right-center alley, then back 20 feet from the RF alley to the right field foul pole and create a symetrical outfield wall that is 10 feet high.  In rebuilding outfield seating I would include a nicer looking Arlington Stadium-like bleacher setup.

The out of town scoreboard would go INSIDE the left field wall.

What would like changed in the structure of RBIA and do you think it would help at all as far as helping the pitchers?

 

Poll
What would choose if it was your money?
Major outfield reconstruction of RBIA
4 votes
Major scoreboard and audio updating
38 votes
BOTH of the above
20 votes
Build a new retractable roof stadium
45 votes

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Payment?

How exactly do you plan on paying for these renovations? Arlington is paying some mucho taxes for the Cowboys stadium and they aren’t going to sign off on any improvements to RBiA that the city will deem unnecessary.

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by DerekSTheRed on Aug 20, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a stadium...

…that is only 15 years old. You don’t tear down or completely renovate a 15 year old stadium. That’s not realistic.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 20, 2008 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not realistic

but still probably the only solution is to build a new stadium with a roof. The Ballpark definitely needs a new Scoreboard and video system though, its pitiful compared to most other parks. Also, making the park a bit bigger wouldn’t hurt to at least help the pitching out a little.

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by Gdawg on Aug 20, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree on screens

The should update the screens. Going from what the Cowboys are going to have to the RBIA screens is a huge drop off.

by mattrpav on Aug 20, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Detroit

Didn’t Detroit move the outfield further out after their new stadium was built? There is some room to do minor movement of the wall, but re-configuring the home bullpen would be problematic.

by mattrpav on Aug 20, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

they moved it closer

by tangiers on Aug 20, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the pathetic part about the 15 year old stadium

is that its really needed to be completely renovated for 5+ seasons.

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Aug 20, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the stadium is absolutley great

the only thing is the heat…if this stadium was in Baltimore it would be considered one the best in the league…

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by Longhorn on Aug 20, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

There aren’t many better looking ballparks

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by hinduplaya on Aug 20, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the walls are all different colors, the video board is circa close to 15 years old, the winds blow the ball out of the park more than most

its hots a hell, humid as hell, and no1 on earth want to sit in the left field seats

but otherwise…

its one of the best in the league.

honestly, the park looks like they havent spent a dime upgrading the thing in well over a decade.

any landlord will tell you, if you dont maintain you property it goes to shit really quick. the city of Arlington gave a stadium to hicks, and he hasnt spent crap on it since.

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Aug 21, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poll sucks

There’s no option for “none of the above.”

he’s still hitting better than Saltalasuckia—while playing vastly superior defense...Athos

by Escher on Aug 20, 2008 4:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Aug 20, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've said this before and I will say it again

There is no need for a roof. It was just as hot in 96, 98 and 99 when the Rangers went to the playoffs. The Braves don’t have a roof and look how good they have been. The Rangers need to develope pitchers from with in and if a top FA pitchers comes here fine but winning and Nolan here will help with that.

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Aug 20, 2008 4:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ 1

You got that right Boomer1!!

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by LAMuscleFag on Aug 20, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree from the standpoint of competitiveness of the team

but it probably has something to do with attendance figures. I used to go to 20+ games a season when I was in high school and living in Plano. Even when I went to college in Abilene I still hit about 15 a year…needless to say, attending Ranger baseball in person has always been a high priority. But now, as I only live 3 hours away in OKC, a HUGE reason we haven’t been yet is because it’s hot as balls outside. The huge difference, you ask? Now I have to think about my wife bitching about the heat AND my 4 month old son being out in it. If it wasn’t 100+ throughout the meat of the season, we’d be taking in a lot more games, and I bet a lot more families would be too.

Man I miss my single days…..

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by Bob Loblaw on Aug 21, 2008 2:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

attendance

Not to be mean, but it sounds like your lack of attendance is a personal problem. It’s not any hotter now that is was 8 years ago and I’m sorry but the Rangers can’t build a retractable freaking roof just because your wife bitches about the heat.

by cgolden on Aug 21, 2008 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

that it is a personal problem, I am certainly not advocating they update RBiA with a roof…just offering an explanation of how the heat affects the team from an attendance perspective. I know lots of people still in the metroplex that don’t go to summer games anymore because they have families with young kids and they don’t want their little fellas out in that oppressive heat.

If we all made decisions based on what my wife bitches about, we’d never run out of work.

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on Aug 21, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually it is hotter

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Even though I’m single with no kids I can see where a lot of people wouldn’t want to sit out in that shit. In fact I’ve only been to a few games so far this year. Now that the weather’s reasonable it actually sounds like fun.

But, no, retrofitting a retractable roof isn’t really an option. I’d venture to guess such would cost more than the ballpark did in the first place, not to mention they have no place to play during construction and climate control for a roof like that would cost an absolute fortune to operate. Not doable.

by Black Francis on Aug 21, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, outside of building a glorified Airplane hanger

around the ballpark, or a giant Tent, its just not doable. You need some amount of structure to tie a convertible roof to.

If you wanted to do that, you’d be better off building a new stadium, and listening to the Arlington taxpayers scream.

Anyone know how long the current lease runs? I’d be surprised if it were coming up anytime soon.

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by DJCahill on Aug 22, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is true

after visiting several other ballparks a few weeks ago, it became evident that weather plays a huge role in attendance.

by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 21, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a citizen of Arlington

Reading this makes me want to have a coronary.

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Aug 20, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Aug 20, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+2

I feel your pain. But look at the jewel you got from the Cowboys. Remember you paid only 325 million for an iconic structure costing over $1.1 billion! Arlington will receive MUCH more than $325 million from the stadium in the long run.

Plus, RBIA was paid off way early… look at Reunion Arena. tearing it down while still owing on the thing.

Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!

by pbpsean on Aug 20, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't matter

if Jerry World is a good deal. That doesn’t mean the city is going to pay more on a park they just recently paid off.

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Aug 20, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jewel you say?

Maybe it is just the part of me that is against handouts for the obscenely wealthy but that stadium makes me want to throw up every time I see it.

by bushe on Aug 21, 2008 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you could insure that over 800 Million bucks was gonna be invested in your city

does that change your mind?

iits not like the iron workers are getting shipped in from minnasota or that the glass is being shipped from china. all that stuff is being manufactured or installed by local workers.

i love how conservatives are against any form of government subsidy but at the same point huge proponents of trickle down economics. having your cake while eating it too?

naw!!!!

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-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Aug 21, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so

by this logic since I’m using Arlington workers I should be able to get the city to pay for half of my siding bill too? Hand outs to sports teams to fill your city with day laborers strikes me as a bit of a waste. Seems you could get a manufacturing center or cooperate office for less, probably a lot less. But just to sound crotchety I don’t like the way it looks either, too big, too “new age”

Also I love your political assumptions…

by bushe on Aug 21, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a huge canopy

surely it can be done…

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by Longhorn on Aug 20, 2008 4:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Another questions

What kind of lease do the Rangers have with Arlington? Can they even thin of moving if another city built them a place?

Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!

by pbpsean on Aug 20, 2008 4:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh

Yeah, this is what this organization needs. The chaos associated with teams threatening to move. That always works wonders for teams and fans.

by JBImaknee on Aug 20, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is paid off

But why move there is nothing wrong with it.

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Aug 20, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a chance

the current structure gets a roof. Either they build a big ugly tent over it, or build a new ballpark.

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by DJCahill on Aug 20, 2008 4:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The roof...

would be a benefit how? There aren’t an enormous amount of day games out there. For the roof to help the way people want it to, they would just need to build a whole new stadium. I like Longhorn’s idea. Put a damn canopy over it, made of taffy.

The idea of A/C in the home dugout and bullpen is fabulous.

Really though, instead of moving the fences back, why not move the entire field back? By this, I mean, shorten the backstop. This would make the field “longer” without costing much money and costing the stadium seats (that are greatly unfilled anyway.)

If/when Andrus, Borbon et al get up here, there are larger alleys for their hits to get lost in and now some of those doubles could be triples and the Rangers have a better chance at longer innings.

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by hillcrest on Aug 20, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you pull homeplate back ...

then your foul poles would be Fenway Park type close.

by northtexan95 on Aug 20, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good ideas

but i dont think realistically there is gonna be a roof, when it rarely rains here

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by Steal Home on Aug 20, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Right, it's unrealistic

because it rarely rains…

forget that it’s only 15 years old or anything like that…

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by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude what the fuck is your problem?

if you didnt notice the domes are in areas where it rains. Seattle, Houston, Tampa Bay

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 20, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it rains

all the time in Arizona, good point.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

ok, one place.

your a complete dumbass if you think the domes arent mainly used to prevent rain or it being really cold.

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 20, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWO ACCOUNTS?

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 20, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, you are

you think domes dont block rain

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 20, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have me confused with another poster named Dirk Diggler

and even then you have huge reading comprehension problems.

Trust me.

You are the freaking worst.

I’ve seen some real punch-in-the-dick noobs come through this board during my tenure here, but you make even the worst of them look like cool glass of butt-naked Jessica Alba on hot summer day. Which is to say that you are the worst.

You. Are. The. Worst.

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by thedirkatron on Aug 21, 2008 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey diggler

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 21, 2008 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so im the best? i win?

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 21, 2008 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why be a troll?

I’ve really often wondered this. What is that prompts a doltish individual such as yourself to spend his time perusing a board like this spouting off intentionally dumb shit just to make the conversation here worse? What makes one want to become a troll? Is there a process to it? A learning curve? And what do you get out of it?

I’m super cereal.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 21, 2008 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im not a troll despite what you may think

you go around here replying to my comments with stuipid things such as “you are the worst” so if you wanna be a bitchthen im gonna be a bitch to you.

actually, you are probably a troll with the things you say in your comments

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 21, 2008 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So then you really think you add to the level of baseball discourse around here?

Most of the shit you say is so catastrophically dumb I just figured it was shtick.

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by thedirkatron on Aug 21, 2008 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep, i give a different perspective

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 21, 2008 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is your prospective, exactly?

Sum it up for me, please.

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by thedirkatron on Aug 21, 2008 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give me a break man

Are you really that dense?

It’s unrealistic for a lot of reasons, least of which is that it doesn’t rain as much as Seattle or Houston…

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by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AJM?

Can we get an IP block on this idiot?

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by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

doesnt add jack shit to the board … but thinks he knows everything

its like our own randy galloway!

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by knockoutking on Aug 21, 2008 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i remeber when the stadium opened up that the video screen was state of the art, and haven't they updated the sound system at least once since then.

i know chuck morgan was talking last year or the year before about trying to get the jumbotron updated and adding more screens around the ballpark. wonder what happend to all that.

by jas003 on Aug 20, 2008 5:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

RBiA's videoboard and audio setup is embarrasing.

well, not really, but the videoboard is in dire need of a replacement. and i think it should be done.

sure id like a new stadium or roof, but thats not realistic. its not that old and adding a roof has been explored before.

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Aug 20, 2008 5:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty sure

Chuck Morgan said the team is aware of it, and hope to address it soon.

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Aug 20, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, what?

Why in the world would RBIA need to be updated or torn down? It’s a fine stadium. In fact, I’d call it one of the more underrated stadiums in baseball.

Name the stadiums that are absolutely better.
Fenway (almost solely on tradition)
Yankee (tradition and being a pretty damn good stadium)
Wrigley (tradition)
PNC Park
Camden
New Busch
Nationals Park
Um…I think that’s it. I honestly don’t think I’m missing any stadiums that are undoubtedly better than RBIA.

Now, name the stadiums that are absolutely worse:
Minute Maid
Turner Field
Pro Player
Oakland Coliseum
Petco
Metrodome
Rogers Centre (probably)
Shea
Tropicana
I think that’s it.

The thing is, RBIA falls in that “good” stadium echelon. Is it awesome? No, probably not. But it’s good. It’s there with stadiums like Great American Ballpark (which I happen to like, though some don’t), Safeco, Kaufman, U.S. Cellular (which I happen dislike, though some do like it), AT&T Park, Chavez Ravine, Chase, et al.

So, to answer your question, that’s asinine.

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by ghtd36 on Aug 20, 2008 5:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Aug 20, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you been to all those stadiums?

I’ve never been to Petco or Minute Made… are they really worse? PETCO always looked kind of nice on TV and I’d take MM over TBPiA just for the convert-A-dome alone. And notice that of the 7 other stadiums you listed 4 or 5 are slated to be replaced by brand new sparkling much better stadiums in the next few years (Oakland, Minny, NYM, TB, Miami[?])

I think the gist of his statement was that the ballpark needs something to make it easier on pitchers here, or at least to effect the perception pitchers around the league have of it just being a freaking bear to pitch here.

I don’t think anyone thinks the park is a shit hole or sucks to watch a game in.

It’s a very nice park to watch a game in.

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by thedirkatron on Aug 20, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Petco is a great stadium

I’ve been to about 5 or 6 games there. Honestly, I like it better than RBiA.

It’s got a great view of downtown. Great sitelines — no bad seats. The food is exponentially better than what you get at the ballpark. I don’t understand how you can place Petco in the “worst” category…

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by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ 1

I’ve been several times.. you’re right!

It’s all around better and you’re not sweating your balls off while you watch the game.

The food is better, sitelines wayyy better and it’s in a great location.

There is no comparison to RBIA as far as the overall experience goes. NEXT!!

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by LAMuscleFag on Aug 20, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta put AT&T on that best list

It’s the best stadium of the 11 I’ve been to.

Yankee Stadium is a great place to watch a game, but the actual stadium is a toilet.

by robert_d_wilfong on Aug 21, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nationals Park<<RBiA

Went there this summer. It’s nice, but doesn’t have nearly the character of RBiA. For being so new, I was surprised at how bland the Nationals stadium is. OTOH, my TV is bigger than the RBiA videoscreen, and an unreasonably high percentage of seats have no view of it. They not only need a bigger video board, they need another one on the opposite side of the field.

by 3hacks on Aug 20, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

nats park is NICE (but its also new)

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by knockoutking on Aug 21, 2008 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you forgot AT&T Park

Consistently ranked in the top 3

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by RangerMoto on Aug 20, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see any reason

to have Minute Maid, Turner, or Petco in the worse category, although I haven’t been to Petco.

I can’t comment on Busch or Nationals.

I think AT&T is definitely better. I think overall, TBIA is around 15-20th amongst ballparks. Definitely lower half, but not in the dregs.

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by DJCahill on Aug 21, 2008 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sporting venues have become like Schick Mach 5 Turbo blades

disposable, but very expensive, yet so nice when you get a new one.

by robert_d_wilfong on Aug 20, 2008 5:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

home

run

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by red shoe ranger on Aug 20, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scoreboard

I thought I remembered Chuck mentioning that the scoreboard was going to be updated. Whatever happened to that?

by chief on Aug 20, 2008 6:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

whats wrong with that?

Chuck doesn’t have any money…………

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by red shoe ranger on Aug 20, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what exactly is so bad about the scoreboard?

i’ve always thought the main scoreboard in right field was one of the better there are.

exploding highfive

by sarnold on Aug 20, 2008 6:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

in a picture:

it may not be bottom 5 in the mlb or anything, but its certainly not one of the better ones.
and there is very little secondary info around the park for those who cant see the primary board.

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Aug 20, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

id settle for half that.

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Aug 20, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

definitely overkill

i go to LAA games when texas is here, and i HATE their scoreboard.

call me old school, but i like the scoreboard at ballpark in arlington.

FWIW – and i think this is a great piece of information: i recently found my ticket from opening day (the original opening day) in its nationsbank ticket holder. we have arguably some of the best seats (that don’t belong to hicks) – front row immediately adjacent to the ranger dugout on the outfield side, sharing a wall with the camera pit.

tickets for that game/season – $16 per seat…

by sam in so cal on Aug 20, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

I was just there, and it is awesome….seriously awesome.

by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 21, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i guess you have a good point

but i still don’t think it’s as bad as it’s being made out ot be. You get a lot of information out of it

exploding highfive

by sarnold on Aug 20, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good grief

That looks like the signage at 42nd and Broadway, with construction cranes busy on either side. I don’t think bigger with more information is particularly better.

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by Ed Coffin on Aug 20, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree

although I do have a soft spot for the 6 adds that they sold on their scoreboard

by bushe on Aug 21, 2008 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oops

make that 7 or 8 depending of if park name counts as an add

by bushe on Aug 21, 2008 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

These pictures don't do the boards justice

Got to see them in the context of the entire stadium

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by robert_d_wilfong on Aug 21, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Low outfield walls

with great scenery behind them vault you to the top of my list of favorite stadiums, usually.

One of the reasons TBiA is just a middle of the pack one to me. Those office buildings are shit, and if they tore them down, the view would still be shit.

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by DJCahill on Aug 21, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only thing that needs to happen

is the technology to be upgraded – video, sound, and scoreboards. I’d like to replace the outfield wall so the green padding matches each other (it’s most noticeable in CF) and put less ads on the walls, but that’s second priority.

By the way, both dugouts are already air-conditioned. They installed it about 2 years ago.

by drizzle on Aug 20, 2008 6:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A/C

I thought the dugouts were always air conditioned.

But, man, do I agree about the padding. It makes it look so cheap. Horrible on TV. When you’re at the ballpark it doesn’t stand out as much only because there’s so much else to look at. If someone from out of town was in their hotel watching the center fielder go out back to make a catch, he might wonder if he’s watching Major League Baseball. Looks like they could fix that, you know?

by Black Francis on Aug 20, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

kinda

like how I always wondered why Jerry couldn’t paint the damn roof at Texas Stadium…..of course he finally did after like 15 years of ownership……and I still think the damn thing doesn’t match.

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by red shoe ranger on Aug 20, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stop bitching about RBiA...

I grew up going to see Ranger games at a fucking football stadium in the Bay. Sometimes you don’t know how good you have it ’til you experience the other options, repeatedly, for 15 years.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 20, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He's talking about how the stadium hurts pitchers

not how shitty it is to watch games in the ballpark.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 20, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...

but I was referring to how large the Coliseum is and how many free outs pitchers get there on foul balls.

I don’t want to see too much of a “pitchers park” in Arlington. I know some FA pitchers won’t go to Arlington because of the rep it has and that does suck. However as Millwood said, both pitchers have to pitch in the same park so all you have to do is give up less runs than the other guy. I’m sure there would be a lot of pitchers out there that would love the kind of run support the Rangers offense can give. Get a couple 20 win seasons under their belt for just being average. Rick Helling comes to mind.

I think blaming the park for the pitching problem is just an excuse. Besides, as I (and others) have pointed out it’s not really the launching pad that it has the rep of being. It has been in the middle of the pack as far as offensice parks lately.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 20, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But if the sweltering heat/humidity combo really is hurting our pitchers and making other pitchers not want to come here

isn’t that a huge problem?

I agree that it’s not the launching pad some have made it out to be, though. I’ve argued that point many a time with the plebes around here who bring it up every time as a reason that pitcher X would suck even if he’d come here.

But if the conditions here really are wearing down our starting pitchers (who have to pitch half their games here) as Kenny Rogers was quoted as saying, then that’s a huge problem, no? One we should be looking for a way to remedy?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 20, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure there is a way...

to remedy the heat and humidity in Texas. A retractable roof stadium could be built, but not when RBiA is only 15 years old. If there is another way to renovate the stadium then absolutely, I would hope they would look into it.

Your point is vaild, just not sure there is any other answer other than moving the team…perhaps to Salt Lake! =p

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 20, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh

I’d rather put that money into a pitching staff. Money talks, even if it means a player has to pitch in the heat.

Aikman and Bradshaw?

Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 20, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd do two things

cheerleaders with wet t-shirts in every section, and free beer. Charge $100 for every seat.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Aug 20, 2008 11:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

we have a winner!

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by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2008 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the ballpark.

I agree that for the most part, RBIA is a comfortable place to watch a game. I wish it was closer to Collin County, but I like going there once or twice a year.

My realistic changes are few:
I would remove the out of town scoreboard from left field, knock out the wall and move it back to where the seats begin. Only adds a few feet, but we could have a nice LED out of town scoreboard and take a few homers away from the park.

I would add ribbon boards to the facades of the first suite level and the club level.

Get a big HD board for the top of the home run porch and centerfield.

Update the audio technology because the speakers weren’t very good the last time I went and I was in the tenth row behind third base.

I love Chuck and his presentation is fine, but it could be SO much better. I can predict the exact music, canned organ or sound effects he is going to play.

My one drastic change that I feel would really help:
I would rebuild the right field seating. Tear the home run porch and restaurant out, move back the seating 10 feet and rebuild the stands to be extensions of the existing ballpark. I think suites and club seats facing home plate would be very attractive.

This way you eliminate the overhang, eliminate the posts and take away a few homers.

Probably wouldn’t cost too much to even do the drastic change because the infrastructure is already there and it wouldn’t be very inconvenient except for maybe a season.

Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!

by pbpsean on Aug 21, 2008 8:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Only Thing I Wish For...

…is that the stadium was downtown Dallas or in Fair Park or something. It’s a purely selfish desire since I live and work near downtown and hate driving on stoopid I-30 to get to the games in rush hour traffic. I would go to 50 games a year if the stadium was downtown.

Additionally, the studies that they have done on attendance point to something like 80% of the people come from the Dallas area, and 20% come from the Ft. Worth area. If they moved to Dallas they would lose out on 20% of their fanbase in attendance, but I can promise you they would pick up that many in locals.

Arlington = sux0rz. Boom goes the dynamite.

by FuturePants on Aug 21, 2008 11:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

When I lived in Fort Worth I thought it was stupid not to build it in downtown Dallas. Rail access, closer to a lot more people who have a lot more money. And closer to a lot more people who don’t have any money but could probably buy a bleacher ticket and hot dog now and then. Adds up.

by Black Francis on Aug 21, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

new nats scoreboard:

Miller Park gametrackers:

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by Jayslick on Aug 21, 2008 11:46 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just my opinion...

I love the Ballpark, and have had several non-baseball fans (who are friends of mine) comment on how much they liked the stadium. I think it’s really attractive from the outside, and walking around inside (before you get to the seats) is great as well. I love the open air feeling on the ground level, near the food stands.

I do think the stadium needs a bit of an update, though. I like the out-of-town scoreboard in left field, but honestly I think the stadium needs at least one more video scoreboard. If you’re in right field seats or close to them, you can’t see the video board and can’t tell what’s going on when the rest of the stadium suddenly starts cheering or booing. I went to a game a few weeks ago with some friends, sat on the home run porch, and it was the most disconnected I’ve ever felt at a ballgame.

I don’t know that we need an HD video board, but since a lot of stadiums have them now, it’s probably coming anyway. I won’t comment about moving the seats since I really don’t have much of an opinion on that. I do wonder if it would be possible to extend the pseudo roof that exists around the upper decks now, and provide a bit more shade for left field/upper deck seats.

by jwiscarson on Aug 21, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Reply to Cahill above

I’m at work and it won’t let me reply for some reason…

It’s a 30 year lease, but I’m not sure if that started during the first season what.

But, assuming it started in 1994, then they’re locked in there until 2024.

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by Dirk Diggler on Aug 22, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That seems reasonable.

I can’t imagine the city would build a park without a real long term lease.

I pretty much imagined that any major changes to the ballpark as far as air conditioning were pretty much a pipedream for awhile.

It’ll probably be til around 2020 til the new ballpark dance starts.

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by DJCahill on Aug 22, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and that's why all this talk annoys me

It’s almost as if people have no concept of how ridiculous it would be to retrofit the stadium with a removable roof.

I also just absolutely hate the people that bitch and moan about being in North Dallas when the team is in Arlington. It may be an accurate statement that they’d pull in more fans if they had a Dallas stadium, but bitching about it NOW isn’t getting anything done. The idea of the Rangers moving locations is so far away it’s not even worth discussing right now.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 22, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

People sometimes complain

I’m one of those who believes the stadium should have been built downtown, and will occasionally bitch about it. But just because I do doesn’t mean I’m delusional. I and MOST others realize they’re stuck where they’re at for a good long while.

At least it will have rail access at some point.

Today I was driving over the Sylvan viaduct, and even though that’s a ways from downtown and there’s a river there, I couldn’t help but to envision what it would be like to go to a ballgame and see that skyline in the background. There are better locations than there, too. Hopefully there will be some real estate left in 2024 is all I can say.

by Black Francis on Aug 22, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never said you were delusional

I just think it’s not worth the time and energy to bitch about it right now. I mean, I wish I had a million dollars, but bitching about it over and over again doesn’t change the situation. In 10-15 years, when the situation is a little more relevant, I’d be able to understand the bitching…

Also, I’m sure there are plenty of good places to put a ballpark, but I’m willing to bet right now, that even in 2024 the Rangers won’t move. Call it a hunch or whatever, but I don’t think they’ll jump ship out of the Ballpark as soon as they can.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 22, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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