Robinson Tejeda

by BCanfield on Aug 21, 2008 1:45 PM CDT Comment 43 comments

Good grief. Does any pitcher not pitch well once they are no longer a Ranger?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7537

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good grief

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NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Aug 21, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Dick Bosman and Jim Kern

were never the same after leaving Texas. Since then, I’m not sure.

"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08

by badradiorules on Aug 21, 2008 2:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I haven't seen his motion

or if it’s changed since he left, but that WHIP looks pretty sterling. I really wonder if these guys are coached or if they are sat down in front of a video screen showing Tom Emanski’s fundamentals video while the pitching coaches hit the links.

Aikman and Bradshaw?

Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 21, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

fail

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 21, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Honestly, I like it when you post fail after my comments

… people on here find you to be such an immature and ignorant fool, that when you write a negative comment, it makes my comment look good. Keep it up.

Aikman and Bradshaw?

Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 21, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

fail

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 21, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

fail

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 21, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and people laughed when i said tejeda would pitch well

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 21, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

maybe some

but i said that the Rangers needed to be more patient with him in the bullpen role, where i feel he is best suited.

to be fair, he rarely ever enters a game when anything is at stake, and i have noticed he allows quite a few inherited runners to score. still, it would have been nice to have a longer leash with one of the few young pitchers on our roster who had experienced a degree of previous major league success.

by clark on Aug 21, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

did they laugh as hard

as i do about hurley being our #2 (without getting SIGNIFICANTLY better?)

at least make it feliz and holand…feliz and hurley makes you look like you dont know a damn thing

Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark

by knockoutking on Aug 21, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol. millwood is our ace, hurley being a #2 would be an improvement

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 21, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh well

He should have shown that here when given the opportunity. Nice how he waited to get to a no pressure situation in Kansas City before figuring out how to pitch.

Kameron Loe and Wes Littleton will probably join him there next year and become unbelievable!

Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!

by pbpsean on Aug 21, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

he did not get much of an opportunity

after the switch to the bullpen. he looked solid in OKC and then had a couple of poor outings in the big leagues and the team let him go. God forbid madrigal sit around rotting in AAA when he was clearly so major league ready.

by clark on Aug 21, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He got every opportunity

He sucked for two and a half years. If you can’t show anything consistently in that amount of time, you can’t blame a team for cutting you.

by uthornfan on Aug 21, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Only problem with that argument

It was primarily as a starter that he got that opportunity.

I always thought that he would be a reliever more than a starter, but I don’t think 4 major league games is much of an opportunity as a reliever….

by Requiem on Aug 21, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you can't throw strikes you can't throw strikes

It doesn’t matter if you are a starter or reliever. He couldn’t throw strikes when he was here. end of story.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 21, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well like every other pitcher

to leave the org in recent years, he sure as hell remembered how to pitch pretty soon after he left. maybe you can’t blame the team for cutting him, but you have to blame them for something.

by clark on Aug 21, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sure

because its definitely not the players fault. The guy was given plenty of chances while he was here. Plenty. I hope he goes and has a nice career but I won’t lose a wink of sleep wondering what might have been with the great Robinson Tejeda

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 21, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe not

but it’ll continue to pique my curiousity as to why pitchers seem to develop better stuff and regain control elsewhere. Just another example, even if the sample size of Tejeda’s work isn’t huge yet.

Aikman and Bradshaw?

Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 21, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

fail

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 21, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And that would likely be

because he’s trying to pace himself as a starter.

As a reliever, that’s much less of a concern.

Look, I’ve been the biggest anti-Tejeda guy ever since he came here (1. I doubted he would make it as a starter because of his poor peripherals, 2. I thought we should have gotten much more than him for Dellucci after his monster year here).

But we never gave him a shot AS A RELIEVER which a LOT of major league pitchers and coaches in the game say is easier than starting. This meme is also backed up by the stats, as you see a lot of failed starters become good relievers, but rarely see failed relievers become good starters (what Duncan is doing in St. Louis is pure wizardry).

by Requiem on Aug 21, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmm?

If he is trying to pace himself as a starter, shouldn’t he be not throwing so hard and therefore able to command his pitches better?

by Telegraph on Aug 21, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Possibly

That would make sense to me, but maybe it’s different for Tejeda.

The point is we don’t really know. This is the same problem I have with the whole Botts thing. I didn’t necessarily BELIEVE that Botts would do well. I just don’t think we gave him much of a chance to do anything. Granted, he didn’t take what small chances he had, and it looks more likely that he won’t amount to much.

But he was given very little chance to show he could succeed in specific environments. I don’t feel that Tejeda was given a chance also.

by Requiem on Aug 21, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes. this is true

But you don’t have enough roster spots to give every single Botts or Tejeda all the shots that he will need. You either give them a real shot, or just let them go right away, which is essentially what they did with Tejeda.

by Telegraph on Aug 21, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Granted

Which is why I wasn’t in as much of an uproar when Tejeda was released. There just weren’t enough spots at the time, though I guess you could argue that we should have tried Tejeda over Nippert.

OTOH, when we had a chance to look at Botts, the team was going no where and we had ABs available to check out the young players, and this happened over TWO years.

Anyways, I was just pointing out that Tejeda wasn’t really given a shot AS A RELIEVER which is different than as a starter.

I DO think he was given more than enough shots as a starter, but then again, I was saying we should have traded for someone else when Dellucci was at his high point.

by Requiem on Aug 21, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

if he was still with Texas, he would be the same Tejeda as we’ve seen before

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 21, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and he did well his 1st year here for what it's worth

by Goyogringo on Aug 21, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow

i didnt know that he pitched in 14 straight losses.

baseBALLIN!

by kevzta on Aug 21, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He did okay in OKC

so going to KC is just returning him to his natural habitat, that’s all.

by Telegraph on Aug 21, 2008 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

.175 BABIP in KC

Good grief. There’s a chance he evolves into a solid reliever, but this is in no way, shape or form a sustainable level of performance.

Baseball Time in Arlington

by jamcadbury on Aug 21, 2008 6:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

luck

I find it amazing that people are ready to say he’s another in our psychosomatic series of pitchers doing well after they leave town after about a dozen decent appearances as a reliever.

Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.

by t ball on Aug 21, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

in absolute zero pressure situations

Hes only come in in blowouts

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 21, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's fine

I’d be fine with him pitching in zero pressure situations.

Better than having Nippert there.

by Requiem on Aug 21, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What is the difference

if they are both pitching in losses?

by Goyogringo on Aug 22, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not sustainable, no

But if you look at his peripherals, he hasn’t been pitching poorly.

He has a 31K/11 BB rate in 26.0 IP with 2 HR.

That’s pretty good.

by Requiem on Aug 21, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hes also allowed 33% of inherited runners to score

Not exactly the thing you want from a reliever and something that doesn’t show up in his ERA

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 21, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And

where did I quote ERA?

by Requiem on Aug 21, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you didn't

just pointing out something perhaps people don’t realize

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok.

Well, I’d appreciate it, if the reply was intentional, that you didn’t reply to me but rather to whoever it was that you were referring to, since it just confused me.

by Requiem on Aug 21, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs