Sunday morning things
Games like last night increase my desire for the season to get over with, and 2009 to start approaching. That sucked.
Brandon McCarthy's start was pretty meh. If you chalk up the first two batters (who both walked) as being nerves/rusty/whatever, and focus on the line after that, his stat line from yesterday was pretty decent, but he needs to have better command than he showed to be the guy the Rangers expect him to be. Still, the curve and change both looked better yesterday than they have in my memory.
Evan Grant's game story is about McCarthy's return and McCarthy talking about building on this outing.
Grant also mentions on the DMN blog that the Rangers decided that McCarthy was going to be limited to about 75 pitches, since having to warm up twice with the delay meant that he essentially already had 25 extra pitches on his arm. Grant also has this observation:
One thing Rangers people have told me is that McCarthy's offspeed and breaking pitches had regressed since he joined the organization.
I'm curious to know how a fairly polished young pitcher comes to the Rangers and has his curve and change -- his two best pitches -- regress.
Nolan Ryan says that pitchers are going to throw more and longer, and are going to throw live batting practice this spring. In the same item, there's a mention that Nelson Cruz is coming up around the time rosters expand.
According to T.R. Sullivan, Kevin Millwood, Vicente Padilla, and Frank Catalanotto have all cleared waivers, but Jon Daniels says the Rangers aren't looking to make fire-sale deals.
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It appears Connor
Screwed Bmac up. IMO
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on Aug 24, 2008 10:57 AM CDT 0 recs
BMac...
First inning was pretty painful to watch. Not sure if it was the delay, nerves, or what but his control just sucked.
His velocity was ok. Got up to 91 a few times but still was at 89/90 most of the time. I guess he can survive on that if he hits the corners, keeps it down and has his offspeed stuff going good, but those high fastballs he throws scare me. I was impressed with his offspeed stuff when he was able to locate it. Let’s just hope he builds on this and keeps improving over his next 4/5 starts. The Rangers really need this guy for the rotation next year.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 24, 2008 11:06 AM CDT 0 recs
McCarthy
that first inning had disaster written all over it. So settling down for an OK outing was a positive.
2008 – yep, it can’t end soon enough.
by Randy Richardson on Aug 24, 2008 11:15 AM CDT 0 recs
If I had to grade McCarthy
last night, I’d give him a B- but there were lots of circumstances.
Overall it was a positive but hardly a defining outing.
I’m still interested though and hopefully Ryan can continue his good work with BMac.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on
Aug 24, 2008 12:03 PM CDT
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08 Debut
For a guy that hasn’t pitched in a year, he was very impressive to me. He could throw any pitch at any time in the count and threw them for strikes. He had most of the Indians fooled and the only thing that hurt him was that 89mph pitch he thought he could blow past the hitters eyes that got hit to the wall. Looked a ton better than he did in the past and this is just the first start.
by meatbonelefty on Aug 24, 2008 11:41 AM CDT 0 recs
Everything i just said
AFTER the bad first inning
by meatbonelefty on
Aug 24, 2008 11:45 AM CDT
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2008
I could live wit hit a little longer:
At this point, in terms of draft position, we are currently at 12th. From what recent weeks have shown, its a pretty safe bet that Cleveland (2 back) and Colorado (3 back) will pass us. After that, there are certain other teams that could pass us as well. Furthermore, not counting the previous 2 teams that I just mentioned, there are 6 other teams (Baltimore, Oakland, Atlanta, Pitt, Cinc., SF) within 6 games in the win column. Of those teams, Balt is the closest at 2 games out of the win column. However, they probably have too tough a schedule to pass the games. As for the other 5, I see SF, with Zito at least somewhat turning it around, and with the rest of that strong rotation possibly passing the Rangers. Therefore, we may end up having a very solid 9th pick in the draft. Hey, I could live with losing a few more weeks if our draft position continues to improve….
"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno
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by hinduplaya on Aug 24, 2008 11:49 AM CDT 0 recs
Strasburg is out of the question
but if Crow is there when the Rangers are on the clock do you pick him?
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on
Aug 24, 2008 11:54 AM CDT
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Sorry but that's kinda dumb
If you think about it, the end of this year is gonna be a lot of youg guys like Teagarden, Hunter, Cruz, Hurley, Arias, McCarthy getting better for a good 09 etc. If we lose all of these games that means our young guys didn’t do much and sucked if we let SF, ATL, PIT, pass us in the standings. The rest of this year is letting our young guys get a chance to succeed so they look forward to more success in 09. Instead of hoping for a draft pick that could or could not help in 2-5 years, why don’t we root for the promising young guys we have now to get used to this winning thing we’re trying to do for the next decade?
by meatbonelefty on
Aug 24, 2008 12:00 PM CDT
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I'm not saying I want them to lose
My main point is that this team has not done well this month at all and the entire pitching staff has been horrible for the better part of this month. Do I want to see this team lose? No. Would I love to see progress from guys like McCarthy and Harrison. Absolutely. But is it the end of the world if we continue our losing ways? No, it just means a better draft pick.
"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno
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by hinduplaya on
Aug 24, 2008 12:31 PM CDT
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Young players
never get more PT than the vets during sept. call-ups so I don’t know what you are expecting. The vets will demand to play and the manager will play them…
by Goyogringo on
Aug 24, 2008 5:37 PM CDT
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Really?
I’m curious to know how a fairly polished young pitcher comes to the Rangers and has his curve and change — his two best pitches — regress.
You are curious about that?

"Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states" - Barack Obama
by DaheelzCM on Aug 24, 2008 12:01 PM CDT 0 recs
Question
Are you saying the answer should be obvious, or are you saying that’s an obvious question with no obvious answer?
by Adam J. Morris on
Aug 24, 2008 12:04 PM CDT
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im pretty sure he means
“[what] you saying the answer should be obvious”
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on
Aug 24, 2008 12:12 PM CDT
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Obvious answer
Just like the question from your Hurley post. Someone, or more likely a group of someones, is screwing up the young pitchers in this organization and have been for the better part of my 37 years on Earth. Unfortunately, I have a difficult time believing it was ALL Mark Connor’s fault so it’s probably going to continue. A handful of guys getting messed up happens to all teams by chance at some point. The huge number that happens to the Rangers is systemic of an organizational problem. I don’t know who or what the problem is but it’s clearly there somewhere.
"Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states" - Barack Obama
by DaheelzCM on
Aug 24, 2008 12:23 PM CDT
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Last night featured the Good, the Bad and the Ugly...
The Good- Woo Hoo BMac is back. He looked decent for his first time out. He’ll get better and better barring any more injuries.
The Bad- Josh Rupe….What a disaster of an outing. I’m with you Ed Coffin some trailer park has lost it’s idiot so Josh get in that trailer til I say you can come out.
The Ugly- I’m over you too Mad Dog. You remind me of one of the bats I used to kill with a tennis racket when I was a kid. They’d sneak into the house from the attic on occasion.
Look at his face closely… BAT FACE!!
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 24, 2008 12:05 PM CDT 0 recs
Damn you had bats in your attic?
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on
Aug 24, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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LOL yeh it's not uncommon..
in upstate New York.. they can get into the smallest little holes.. Let me tell ya it was always fun waking up in the middle of the night hearing one flying around in your room and bumping into shit..
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on
Aug 24, 2008 12:16 PM CDT
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Some trailer park lost its idiot?
Geez…I’m not a big Rupe guy, but he’s leading the majors in relief innings, and has been decent this year.
Your post seems uncalled for.
by Adam J. Morris on
Aug 24, 2008 12:32 PM CDT
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Pent up anger
At bullpen failures. Straw:camel’s back stuff. And the notion that when it’s 7-1 and in the middle innings, you could go out there and throw nothing but BP changeups and survive, so long as you don’t walk anyone.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on
Aug 24, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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exactly + 1
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on
Aug 24, 2008 12:47 PM CDT
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Define decent
An ERA over 4.5, a WHIP approaching 1.5 and walking about as many as you strike out is not decent.
"Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states" - Barack Obama
by DaheelzCM on
Aug 24, 2008 12:49 PM CDT
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Month by month
He’s tiring and his ERA has shot up recently. He has quite good in May-June, slowed considerably in July-August. Considering how little he’s pitched in the last couple years that doesn’t surprise me.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on
Aug 24, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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Rupe will be OK in the long run..
It’s just what he did last night that was unbelievably idiotic. He did exactly what you DON"T WANT your pitcher to do with a 6 run lead. You don’t see Mr. Coffin come unglued very often. It was pretty funny actually LOL
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on
Aug 24, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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He's got a FIP of 4.70
In this ballpark, having logged 72 innings, as a long man, that’s decent.
by Adam J. Morris on
Aug 24, 2008 1:07 PM CDT
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please explain FIP
you have a tendency to go stat dork and bring up stats people dont all follow when your opinions are questioned.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on
Aug 24, 2008 1:18 PM CDT
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FIP
is Fielding Independent Pitching. It is a form of ERA that tries to take fielding out of the equation to see how well a pitcher has actually pitched. This is the equation per THT:
(HR*13+(BB+HBP-IBB)*3-K*2)/IP
It also then is multiplied by a league based factor to make it similar to ERA. Personally, I prefer xFIP which is basically the same thing except it normalizes the HR part of the equation. So instead of just doing total number of HRs, it uses a percentage of flyballs to figure out how many HRs that pitcher should have given up.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg1 on
Aug 24, 2008 1:39 PM CDT
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cool
ive seen that equation before and its puzzled me why is it HR * 13 and why are walks and hit by pitches and IBB’s more of a factor than K’s?
just curious how the theory of it works.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on
Aug 24, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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I can't say the exact calculations
but I’m guessing that in the end, those values have been the most accurate.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg1 on
Aug 24, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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when he loses it though
he really loses it. However there is no question this is the best year of his career and he is an example of a success story within the org. He went from being a chronically injured shitty starter in the minors to a reliever he is among tops in innings pitched. The way the organization controlled his innings pitched to thwart injury has worked. So for those looking for a success story, it is right in front of you.
by Goyogringo on
Aug 24, 2008 5:41 PM CDT
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Rick Peterson
Can anyone explain why we haven’t heard any thing at all about Rick Peterson? After the Mets fired him, I figured it was just a matter of time before he got hired in Arlington, especially considering the ties he has with Wash. I know he’s not the “be all, end all” of pitching coaches, but couldn’t he help somehow? I’m terribly afraid this organization is going to screw around and permanently ruin BMac, Hurley, Harrison, et al.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on Aug 24, 2008 12:13 PM CDT 0 recs
Solution
Every pitcher has his own personal coach. Find out who was the coach most responsible for that pitcher being a highly rated pitcher at one point and bring him in to work with that pitcher every day.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg1 on Aug 24, 2008 12:34 PM CDT 0 recs
I am running out of defensive mechanisms to compensate for losses like this
except apathy… I shudder to take that step…
by Telegraph on Aug 24, 2008 2:41 PM CDT 0 recs
a big shiney 1.2 Billion dollar stadium?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on
Aug 24, 2008 3:15 PM CDT
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zing!
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
by boomer1 on
Aug 24, 2008 3:19 PM CDT
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