Joaquin Arias' egomania as big as my beastliness
by miles on Aug 25, 2008 1:42 AM CDT
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Who does this guy think he is?
First of all, he owes his soul to this organization for sticking with him through his complete shit play and his injuries.
"I don't know what happened last year," Arias said. "I want to forget about last year."
You don't know what happened last year? Lets start with you measly body getting injured like it always does.
I'm reading this DMN article about this guy and it is making me sick.
"It's my passion to play shortstop," Arias said. "But I'll play anywhere."
Ok, do I also need to remind him how many errors he had at shortstop? Yeah, like 6 high fives worth. IN AA.
"Maybe one day I'll play every day with another team," Arias said.
Oh, its nice to know you are so dedicated to this organization that you are already thinking about where you are going to play next.
Ive never liked this kid, he thinks he is so cool because he was part of the A-Rod deal. Know what? Well I have news, you are a nobody Arias, A nobody.
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Alright, you know how my wallet and stuff got lost? I called them and told them to send me a new card which they did. They gave me a new pin and so I went to the ATM and the pin didn't work. I stood there doing it like 20 times getting more and more angry. Then I was doing it again, and the damn machine ATE the card and said that the bank requested that it take it. I get pissed.
So I started a chase account here, which is good because I was getting annoyed paying 6 dollars every time I use an ATM machine here(no Bank of America's here)
The people at chase are pretty slimy, all hidden fee's and shit. I avoided all this stuff, but banks are slimy people.
Walmart pisses me off. They think they are so slick with their 6 dollars an hour salary, they think they have power. I went with a few people at 4:30 in the morning and want to ride the electric wheelchairs or whatever. So we start riding them and they start yelling to stop. I'm like no, I'm going like 1 mile per hour I think you can walk over here. They come over and tell me to get off. I say no, I am a paying customer and we are the only people in the store so its not that big of a deal.
Then the other night, I go with different people and I start throwing balls around. My friend throws one at one of the signs that hangs from the ceiling over the frozen food section and the sign falls. I see this guy with a few people cracking up, and I'm like "hey that guy looks familiar". My ex is like "thats our sociology professor". I start cracking up, our professor is 24 years old and looks like your typical frat guy. Its just funny because I didn't recognize who he was at first. Well anyway, I go up to the front of the store and get confronted by these walmart employees. They are like "hand over you alls balls". I was like "no, I'm buying this". Long story short, they got pissed. They know I hide balls all over the store whenever I go which is like everyday. Those people hate me there, I don't care though.
Who are they?
Who be me?
Thats what I thought.
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if wally word is your past time, i recommend finding a kid that will drive you further to cooler stuff. i spent my 1st couple years at ETSU or A&M Commerce and after a certain point i came to realize that if i was willing to end up at Walmart for an evening of fun and hell-raising, i coulda probably done better.
that and you end up collecting every Nerf Gun ever created.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 25, 2008 1:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Congrats
You seem to have actually regressed in maturity.
by brettgardner on Aug 25, 2008 2:12 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
It all started
With the laundry.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Aug 25, 2008 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Hey Miles... Our HP Boy had dinner with Troy Aikman and Tony Romo
by hurlerhurley on Aug 28, 2008 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Miles
I thought it was Elvis you said was going to be a bust?
We need to hire Chuck Norris to kick the ass of any Ranger fan caught booing one of our young pitchers at the RBiA.
by lonestarJon on Aug 25, 2008 3:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Im confused M,
I thought Arias was your fav player?
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Aug 25, 2008 7:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I see absolutely nothing wrong
with anything he said.
by tyd3311 on Aug 25, 2008 7:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I do.
He shouldn’t be so picky and choosy right now and thinking about his future without the Rangers.
Today is the youngest you will ever be. Act like it.
by miles on Aug 25, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arias is trade bait
OK .. I;m not going further with this thread. It’s to long and I’m tired and need to get some sleep. I’ve got to catch a flight out for Charleston, SC in the morning. I’m going to bed.
Hey Miles... Our HP Boy had dinner with Troy Aikman and Tony Romo
by hurlerhurley on Aug 28, 2008 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
how long ar eyou up there miles?
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Aug 25, 2008 8:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's looking like the classic
7 year student to me…
Or the 1 year student.
by JBImaknee on Aug 25, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
“A lotta people go to college for seven years.”
“I know. They’re called doctors.”
by brettgardner on Aug 25, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to post
some comment about immaturity, until I remembered some of the things I did in college…and after college…and last week…
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 25, 2008 9:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You
Rode around in the motorized carts? I’m all for reasonably stupid hi-jinks, but that’s an 8th grade move, not a college one.
by brettgardner on Aug 25, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok,
I never did any of those stupid things in Walmart. I did attempt to destroy myself in many different ways in college, but I didn’t take it out on other people or destroy (much) property intentionally.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 25, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of my college friends rode one of those motorized carts around
(we were in college)
He reasoned that those were for people who couldn’t walk and because he was completely wasted, he couldn’t walk. The staff glared at him, but it was like 2 a.m., so they didn’t say much. Just prayed for him to leave, I think.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Davis with 3 ribbies ... you can't hold a good man down." - LonestarJon
"Maybe not, but I'd like to." - Me
by baseballismyboyfriend on Aug 25, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, exactly.
The lady that told us to get off was like “these are for 80 year olds”
I say “What 80 year olds are shopping at walmart at 4:30 in the morning?”
Today is the youngest you will ever be. Act like it.
by miles on Aug 25, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
80 year olds
wake up really early.
by JBImaknee on Aug 25, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should
try it, its fun
Today is the youngest you will ever be. Act like it.
by miles on Aug 25, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not immaturity
It’s being a dick. Peoples who work overnight at Wal-Mart have it hard enough without some rich kid coming in and destroying everything. Riding motorized carts at 4 in the morning is a victimless crime, however immature, but knocking stuff over and breaking things is just a dick move.
by naropean on Aug 25, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't agree more.
Or have said it any better.
by brettgardner on Aug 25, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha seriously?.. its their job to work at..well their workplace.. and if they have to clean it up.. they're getting paid for it.
Rich kid? Any kid would do that when he/she is bored, and breaking things..who’s losing money..you? the employees? Nope. i figure sam walton’s descendants can cover the cost of a sign or two, after they’re done wiping themselves with dollar bills.
baseBALLIN!
by kevzta on Aug 25, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People like you
Are the dregs of society.
Did you ever stop to consider that perhaps the cost of cleaning up, coupled with the cost of delaying or canceling other tasks is more higher than the minimum wage the person is likely earning?
That’s not to say nothing of the incredible sense of arrogance one would have to display in order to put their own petty desires above somebody else who’s doing nothing more than trying to earn a living.
You’re bored? Here are a couple tips: read, run, slap it, get pussy. The path to loserdom is paved with low-scale destruction and petty crimes.
by brettgardner on Aug 25, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha i've never actually broken anything for the purpose of knowing that someone will have to clean it up.
and i have never done somehting that would make life any harder on anyone else. i was only trying to defend what miles was doin, because in all seriousness, i see little wrongdoing in what he did. But at the same time, if someone works as a janitor, its understood that they..clean? correct? So what is the big deal if one makes a mess, in a store with janitors/ employees that clean, they’ll clean it up. If cleaning is so degrading, why are there so many employees in superstores, clothing storees that are employed for the purpose of cleaning, that apply for these jobs knowing exactly what they will have to do? hahaha get off your high horse! you want to call people out on having a little fun. Some people are young people who do little things to get a rush with their friends. Its happened forever. So you can complain about “those young people these days” because those people don’t really care. Ive never vandalized any property in my life. If you think riding around on electric scooter at wal mart is petty crime/ lowscale destruction, when a sign falls down, you are crazy. Loserdom is when you classify slapping it a primary way of having fun, or referring to it as “slapping it.” haha
baseBALLIN!
by kevzta on Aug 25, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i worked at a banana republic over the summer
and i could have cared less when people made a mess because, i would clean it up and it was my job. I signed up for it, but i was getting paid, so i didnt care at all.
baseBALLIN!
by kevzta on Aug 25, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're missing the point.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 25, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I worked at a banana republic over the summer
Sounds about right…
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 25, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry we can't all be super badass ex-Navy Seal top-secret NSA rocket scientist millionaires like you, Sauce
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 26, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should have taken you to my high school reunion instead of my wife
You resume fluffer, you.
And I run a 7 minute mile on a good day, fyi…
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 26, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah...
6 min 45 sec, puss.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 26, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
run a mile
that would take me at least a half hour.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 26, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes but bringing me might raise a whole new set of problems
“You’ve brought a what, B. Carter? A "Huntress”? So is that like a man-slave or what’s the deal here?"
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 27, 2008 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miles
you’re my boy! what’s up dude? forget what the haters say and keep your head up!
and you sound like you have an awesome time at wal mart! lol
Free Palestine!
by The Ahmad on Aug 25, 2008 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahmad!
Long time so see, glad to see your posting here again.
Today is the youngest you will ever be. Act like it.
by miles on Aug 25, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't encourage him.
Seriously.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 25, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
idk whose worse, steal home or the ahmad
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Aug 26, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steal Home
It’s just the sheer volume of his stupidity that puts him over the top.
At least ahmad doesn’t post his drivel everywhere all the time.
Steal Home has become fucking ubiquitous.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 26, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ubiquitous
i have never used that word in my life.
by oc on Aug 26, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s right up there with protocol and copacetic
by oc on Aug 26, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on now, no need to butter that bread
I see ubiquitous used in conversation all the time.
Like everywhere…
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 26, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i saw it used in a lecture today
had to look it up
Would have been better to use omnipresent
by laxtonto on Aug 27, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
at least ahmad at least backs his stuff up some (like his 3 trades)
steal home effing KILLS me
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Aug 27, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting kicked out of walmart
we’ve all been there. It’s like an American pastime I think. Mine was for playing dodgeball with the big bouncy balls in the middle of the walmart store.
Glad to hear you’re having fun Miles.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 9:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Getting kicked out of walmart
we’ve all been there. It’s like an American pastime I think.
Umm, no we haven’t. And no it’s not, except for idiots.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 25, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1
Your wrong as always.
Today is the youngest you will ever be. Act like it.
by miles on Aug 25, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-100
for being a college student who doesnt know how to spell “you’re”
by 6th street on Aug 26, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 26, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what the problem is Z?
You think just because you’re typing instead of speaking to me face to face you can call me names. I’m trying to have fun here and you call me an idiot. You’re unbelievable.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to think
that I wasn’t talking about you. If you’re the type that behaves that way in stores, then you are clearly and idiot and I’d have no problem saying that in any forum. I don’t know that about you, though, so I don’t really feel like I’m calling you an idiot. I’m not even convinced that miles really acts like this. Again though, if you are 19 or older and doing this sort of stuff in stores, you really need to grow up. It’s pathetic behavior.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 25, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I did it once
and I was about 19 then. I’m sure you were the perfect 19 year old though and never did anything that someone would deem immature on inappropriate so I guess you are in the right to call me in an idiot.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand
You seem to be admitting that it’s idiotic behavior for a 19 year old.
by brettgardner on Aug 25, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
Doing something that’s borderline idiotic and being an idiot are two different things.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I don’t think he was using the term “idiot” in the sense of an actually mentally deficient person, just the opposite actually— someone who knows the right thing to do and does the opposite.
So, by that standard, you could be an idiot when you’re 19 and not one when you’re 22 or whatever other age you choose.
by brettgardner on Aug 25, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 25, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure that makes sense
I just don’t based off on one story of mine and a sarcastic comment, I was an idiot even at 19. People do silly stuff all the time when they’re young. It doesn’t make them an idiot even at that age. I can think of so many things that would make me a bigger idiot…playing dodgeball in a walmart isn’t one of them.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm.
Well, for my part, I freely admit being an idiot when the situation warrants it. I’ve been at Walmart in the middle of the night, TP’d stuff, and participated in most of the generally non-offensive douchbaggery of youth. I was an idiot. I got a ticket for going 120 in a 60. Idiot. Lied on here for no real reason. Idiotic. Last night I only got 2 hours of sleep. Terribly idiotic.
I’ve been an idiot most of my life. I’m still waiting to wake up from it.
by brettgardner on Aug 25, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just that
there is “19 year old idiot” and “12 year old idiot” and this is 12 year old idiot. 19 year old idiot is drinking way more than you can handle, skipping classes that you shouldn’t, not using a rubber, etc. By the time a kid is 14 or 15 or at least 16 he should be past this sort of thing.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 25, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
That the acts in question are really junior high/freshman level. Even as a junior in high school I would have looked down snobbily upon such things.
by brettgardner on Aug 25, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're too old to have any
perception with how 14 year olds act. You were a kid a long time ago, things change. Just because you goof around at walmart once doesn’t make you an idiot. One single evening doesn’t define my life back then so you could call the act idiotic but i wasn’t an idiot.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"you're too old"
It’s really funny to hear someone say that.
I did this sort of stuff when I was in junior high. I’m 25 now. Screwing with people who hold down minimum wage jobs in Wal-Mart is junior high level idiotic. Sliding scales exist for stupid things, but that act is an exception.
I believe Z also said that if it’s an American pastime for you, then you’re an idiot. That implies something altogether different than “I did this once”.
by jwiscarson on Aug 25, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
how so?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have never ever ever seen
someone support acting like a dumb shit so vigorously. If miles said that he’d taken to shooting dogs for sport and I questioned it, would you get all pissy at me?
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 25, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shut up,
Thats just dumb. You are comparing killing something to harmless fun.
Jesus, I’m sure you were a perfect student when you went to school to.
Today is the youngest you will ever be. Act like it.
by miles on Aug 25, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
I promise, promise, promise that I won’t interact with these two morons any more.
You two goof balls can butcher our language and brag about being dumb shits without me criticizing you, I promise.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 25, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Butcher the language?
You’re the one who has apparently just developed a blogging stutter.
Brag about being dumb shits? You are exaggerating so much it’s reached absurd levels.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're being ridiculous...
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to guess here
and reply in case I guessed correctly (this being an idiotic act no matter what).
To me, when you start screwing with other people, particularly people who work a shitty job during shitty hours, that’s idiotic. Retail jobs are just about the worst jobs you can have, and the sheer number of people who come in to Wal-Mart surely make it the worst possible retail job imaginable, and that’s before you consider the kind of people who typically shop at Wal-Mart.
Maybe things are different where you and miles live, but around here, the vast majority of people who shop at Wal-Mart are trash who treat the employees like crap and leave junk all over the store. How is it acceptable for an adult to repeatedly contribute to this sort of situation?
by jwiscarson on Aug 25, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm
repeatedly? I said several times that I did it once. And explain how I messed with the employees? There was nobody in the store except employees and we didn’t break anything or really bother anyone. Explain how that is screwing with people? You don’t know the facts of the story at all so stop assuming stuff…You look foolish when you do that.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good reading comprehension.
My original post drew the comparison between doing this once, and doing it repeatedly, as miles has. This entire argument has been about doing it repeatedly, as you said “an American pastime”.
by jwiscarson on Aug 25, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact...
that someone could not only endorse but applaud this kind of douchebaggery is astonishing.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 26, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It makes you wonder what’s more pathetic: Miles being Miles or Agreen (presumably several years older) vehemently defending him.
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by Chase Irwin on Aug 26, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When did I defend MIles?
I was the one that said it was America’s pastime. I think what’s more pathetic is you attacking me without even getting the facts straight.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 26, 2008 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same song and dance
http://www.lonestarball.com/2008/8/25/600608/joaquin-arias-egomania-as#8320237
I think your stance is clear here.
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by Chase Irwin on Aug 26, 2008 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is interesting.
Especially given:
Getting kicked out of walmart
we’ve all been there. It’s like an American pastime I think.
by Agreen07Umm, no we haven’t. And no it’s not, except for idiots.
by zywica
Just because you goof around at walmart once doesn’t make you an idiot. One single evening doesn’t define my life back then so you could call the act idiotic but i wasn’t an idiot.
by Agreen07
I believe Z also said that if it’s an American pastime for you, then you’re an idiot. That implies something altogether different than "I did this once".
by jwiscarson
My original post drew the comparison between doing this once, and doing it repeatedly, as miles has. This entire argument has been about doing it repeatedly, as you said "an American pastime".
by jwiscarson
How can you accuse someone of not getting the facts straight when it’s clear as daylight that Z’s statement “And no it’s not, except for idiots.” refers to you saying “It’s like an American pastime I think.”?
by jwiscarson on Aug 27, 2008 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad you care so much
about me though, n00b.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 27, 2008 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, the intelligent retort.
I seriously thought you might have a brain behind the keyboard over there, and figured this was the world’s worst misunderstanding.
by jwiscarson on Aug 27, 2008 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's still hard for me to figure out
what the hell you don’t understand here. Z wasn’t talking about you when he said “idiots”. Do you not know the definition of pastime? Do you think that doing something once makes it a pastime?
by jwiscarson on Aug 27, 2008 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only revealed that I did it once
later on….good try though.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 27, 2008 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Z said that he would like to think he wasn’t talking about you. You then responded (seemingly confirming his suspicions) that you only did it once.
by jwiscarson on Aug 27, 2008 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still have my collection!
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 27, 2008 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about?
I was the one that went to Wal-Mart….seriously Ben, I expected more from you.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 26, 2008 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being a douchebag...
to people that are trying to work is a crappy thing to do. I never liked it when my friends did it to me when I was trying to work (pizza delivery and movie theaters), and it would really suck if it was someone you don’t even know.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 27, 2008 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who was a douchebag
to people that were trying to work?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 27, 2008 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who seems to have
a memory problem?
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 27, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 27, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your LSB life
is truly one big 1940s comedy sketch.
by robert_d_wilfong on Aug 28, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how AGreen takes criticism of Miles so personally
by JBImaknee on Aug 25, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He called me an idiot
not Miles…Nice try reading though?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is baby getting collicky?
Does baby need his bottle?
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 25, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No..
baby has Ghost to make him feel nice and warm.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ghost?
That seals it, you’re an idiot.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 25, 2008 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're a nice person
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 26, 2008 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a joke
So, destroying stuff at walmart is ok, but giving someone a hard time an a blog somehow makes me pathetic? Take it easy, lighten up.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 26, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When did I destroy something?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 26, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't (I hope)
but you’re defending Miles in this thread.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 26, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just said I did...
When am I defending MIles in this thread? I was the one who said that it is America’s pastime. I was defending myself. Are you wrong about everything in this thread lol??!
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 26, 2008 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know anymore
This thread lost coherence a long time ago.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 26, 2008 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You were never defending yourself.
As I said multiple times, and again, if you re-read Z’s response to your original post, he said that if getting kicked out of Wal-Mart was your pastime, then you’re an idiot. You then said that it happened once, which by that very definition, does not lump you in with miles, a repeat-offender.
Given that knowledge and the way you vehemently defended your original statement, how was anyone supposed to know you were defending yourself when Z’s original statement was mentioned multiple times (by myself, no less)?
by jwiscarson on Aug 27, 2008 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should say
that until I read this post by you, you were never defending yourself in my eyes.
by jwiscarson on Aug 27, 2008 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was the one that said it was America's pattime
those were my words…..
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 27, 2008 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha,
Dodgeball sounds fun, I should try that next time I go.
One time I was trying to dunk on a 10 foot basket there with one of those balls and it bounced off and knocked down all these fishing poles.
Today is the youngest you will ever be. Act like it.
by miles on Aug 25, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is walking around wasted in Walmart a south thing?
Definitely not a hangout place up north.
by slimshadty12 on Aug 25, 2008 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
its what you do when u live in a shit town
that likely barely has a dairy queen.
its either walmart or meth. heh.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 25, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Ive noticed that ever since Ive gotten here Ive gotten more immature which is impossible.
You have to get creative to think of things to do here. Like following around high school tour groups and asking really dumb questions over and over.
Today is the youngest you will ever be. Act like it.
by miles on Aug 25, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't there girls there?
I can’t believe that hanging out at WalMart is leading you to the ladies. Unless those are the girls you’re trying to pick up?
by JBImaknee on Aug 25, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No shit.
Here’s something to try when you’re bored:
Pussy.
by brettgardner on Aug 25, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
+1000000
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Aug 25, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
weakness
Commenting about pussy on LSB + picture of David Souter = sleeps with fat Czech women.
by 3k on Aug 27, 2008 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
You’re the guy who thinks that he’s a comedian because he can quote “Fletch” in his sleep. I get it. Tell me though— this little quip right here, the “fat Czech women” one, have you sent that off to Jeffrey Ross yet, or are just testing it out on a fresh crowd first?
Shouldn’t you be at Walmart, though? It’s always 3am at Walmart, after all.
by brettgardner on Aug 27, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now THAT is funny.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on Aug 27, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tour groups
You have to get creative to think of things to do here. Like following around high school tour groups and asking really dumb questions over and over.
Well, that must be a stretch.
he’s still hitting better than Saltalasuckia—while playing vastly superior defense...Athos
by Escher on Aug 25, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Choose Meth.
What's the secret to a long life? "I masturbate a lot"-Ernest Borgnine. http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/08/14/icymi-ernest-borgnine-reveals-his-secret-for-everlasting-youth/#onepage
by DJCahill on Aug 25, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, i know people who chose that option
i dont think school worked for them though.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 25, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long
before this nonsense moves ups to the rec list?
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Aug 25, 2008 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
soon
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 25, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't understand...
why anyone would rec this diary.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 25, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did
because I found a lot of the comments to be absolutely hysterical.
by jwiscarson on Aug 25, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yuuup
same here
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Aug 26, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cue
The Dirkatron/Miles flamewar. I miss those days.
"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner
by trza on Aug 25, 2008 11:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hijinks like this ...
… make me twice as thankful to be self-employed now and working from home. From experience, I know that retail already sucks as a job, but to have to deal with teenagers with a serious case of arrested development creating extra work for you is even worse.
by Melmart1 on Aug 25, 2008 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Last time
I checked, riding electric carts doesn’t create extra work for employees…
Today is the youngest you will ever be. Act like it.
by miles on Aug 25, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm ...
…. "They know I hide balls all over the store whenever I go which is like everyday. "
“My friend throws one at one of the signs that hangs from the ceiling over the frozen food section and the sign falls.”
“One time I was trying to dunk on a 10 foot basket there with one of those balls and it bounced off and knocked down all these fishing poles.”
Are you seriously trying to tell me that NONE of these things creates extra work for someone? Did you climb a ladder and re-hang the sign? Do you go back the next day and find all the balls you hid all over the store and put them back where they belong? Did you pick up every last one of those fishing poles and put them back in the right space?
by Melmart1 on Aug 25, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I picked up the
fishing poles.
But the balls all over the store give the store some flare, its so dull in there.
Today is the youngest you will ever be. Act like it.
by miles on Aug 25, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rofl
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 25, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you are creating extra work for someone ...
… and that is not ‘beastly,’ that is being an dickhead. And since when are heterosexual male teenagers who don’t work at TGI Friday’s worried about flare?
by Melmart1 on Aug 25, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's "flair" not "flare".
To the both of you. Once I was corrected in resounding fashion by Requiem for that mistake, so I’m just heading him off.
by Black Francis on Aug 25, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I spend all day ...
… writing and copy editing, so in my spare time, unless is something really egregious, I just let it be. Requiem can kiss my butt.
by Melmart1 on Aug 25, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off-topic...
I don’t write/copy edit all day, but I do my fair share of it. Two of my friends are the worst typers in casual conversations. I always funnel my thoughts through that technical writing part of my brain. Do you not funnel everything through that part of your brain because you use it so much while working?
by jwiscarson on Aug 25, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see everything with a copy editor's eye ...
… but I realized that trying to correct people, especially on the internet, would just serve to drive me nuts, so I learned to let most of it go. I rarely go back to check for typos or misspelled words, and that is by design. Now, the only thing that really bothers me is going to the grocery store and seeing signs that say “Fresh” Meat … do they realize that putting the word ‘fresh’ in quotation marks implies the opposite?
by Melmart1 on Aug 25, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a hilarious site.
A friend of mine linked it to me a while back — always good for a laugh.
by jwiscarson on Aug 25, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree
regarding other people’s words. I only ever do it if someone’s being arrogant about the English language and has misused a word or has some other incredibly stupid typo.
Nevertheless, I still find myself re-writing my own sentences for clarity (although occasionally I just give up, convincing myself that it isn’t worth my time), or checking the definition of a word to make sure I’m using it properly.
by jwiscarson on Aug 25, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only time ...
… I bother with that is when I am trying to make a really important point, one where I wouldn’t want someone like Requiem to completely miss or ignore the point due to a typo.
Other than that, I generally don’t re-read what I write because my mind needs a break from correcting things all the time.
by Melmart1 on Aug 25, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
When did I do that?
I remember correcting you for some other spelling mistake, but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t “flair.”
R
by Requiem on Aug 26, 2008 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Know
The more I think about it, it may have been Brett Gardner. When he first showed up here. I don’t remember now.
Apologies for assuming it was you, but you and I did have some stupid arguments.
by Black Francis on Aug 26, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never did that, either.
Libelous fuck.
by brettgardner on Aug 26, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
Well I don’t remember who it fucking was, then. You know you’re argumentative, and you probably know that I am, so can you not see where I might draw the conclusion that it was one of you?
by Black Francis on Aug 26, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shortest Fuse Ever
“…it may have been Brett Gardner…I don’t remember now.”
That’s libelous and I’m a fuck? Whatever, man. My advice is to let go of the anger, because that shit will suck the life right out of you.
by Black Francis on Aug 26, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brett's
temper and argumentative spirit waxes and wanes. It’s in full flower this week.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 26, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How quick you forget the hurricane of man rage you used to rain down every time anyone deigned to mention their fantasy team on this board
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 26, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Now that was obviously a joke.
by Black Francis on Aug 26, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
Here’s your belated Winky McSmiley-Face ;)
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 26, 2008 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 26, 2008 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Miles so Endearing?
Why do you guys keep recommending his posts? To me he seems like a spoiled miniature breed of dog. He’s like the Pomeranian or toy Poodle of LSB.
by Black Francis on Aug 25, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Miles =
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Aug 25, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 12 recs
That dog = beast
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
by txranger7 on Aug 25, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That dog should really be
attached as Miles icon.
What's the secret to a long life? "I masturbate a lot"-Ernest Borgnine. http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/08/14/icymi-ernest-borgnine-reveals-his-secret-for-everlasting-youth/#onepage
by DJCahill on Aug 26, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I think Adam should exercise his executive authority to do that.
by Black Francis on Aug 26, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
word
hey adam, is that in the forum constitution or do you wanna just pull a cambodia on our ass and do it for the good of the community?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 26, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miles is much taller and richer than that dog
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 26, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROFL
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 26, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, few people are bigger animal lovers than me
That said, I have always, always, had to fight the urge to do my best Ray Guy impersonation whenever I had the misfortune to stumble across a pomeranian. Just a godawfully fucking turrible breed. The worst.
That said, I love that little fuckwit of a mutt in the pic. To echo my esteemed colleague txranger7:
That dog = beast.
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 26, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 26, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"urrible-turrible-turrible" - charles barkley
1. turrible
The way the great Charles Barkley speaks of the actual English word “terrible.”
Used many times to describe teams such as the Milwaukee Bucks, Atlanta Hawks, and Minnesota Timberwolves
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=turrible
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Aug 27, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
neither The Ahmad nor Agreen07 has recommended this post.
conclusion: miles has created three or four other profiles, which he only uses for upping his Rec total.
by oc on Aug 25, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You checking out my profile OC?
A/S/L?
let’s get it on.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've started to think
that it’s a character that he does. No one is this pitiful. Of course he would have had to have played the bit since he was like 14, so that’s quite the commitment.
Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return
by Brett Perryman on Aug 25, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 25, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old bitter man
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
this is at least partly shtick, he just wants attention. Spoiled brat.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 25, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're pathetic
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
miles?
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 27, 2008 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaa
Now it’s a lot easier picturing him running around Wal Mart in the dead of night fucking shit up.
by Black Francis on Aug 25, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Scenario
WalMart Assistant Manager: Hey, who’s that tall really dorky kid out there creating chaos in the store?
Night Stock Clerk: I don’t know, but he appears to be “not quite right”, so we don’t really want to get into trouble for picking on the handicapped.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Aug 25, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
HAHA
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Aug 25, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never realized
that one person can spark this much controversy on a baseball blog….Ah yes, I forgot all about the likes of CJ and Milwood.
"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno
LSB facebook group ---->>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33345329288
by hinduplaya on Aug 25, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I rarely comment on LSB, but...
After seeing someone destroy what was my former forte (public comedy) in college, I had to respond.
Look, I’m all for having fun at Wal-Mart in the late hours of a collegiate night of stupidity, but I would offer this to both miles, you crazy kid you, and the community. It is both unattractive and unbecoming to mess with people’s property and energy to the point where you have them doing some nonsense at work. It is much more productive and enjoyable to mess with their minds and have them thinking nonsense. Here are some suggestions for harmless Wal-Mart fun from a former college dummy:
- Stare at the balls in Wal-Mart until someone is forced to come over to you. This could take upwards of 30 minutes. When they finally do to ask you some insincere robotic line (ex: “Can I help you with something?”), tell them “Huh? Oh. I’m just considering how fall the ball industry has come after all these years.” Then continue to stare.
- When you enter the store, make your way to the greeter. When he greets you, look digsustingly offended and reply, “Well if that’s the kind of greeting that passes muster around here, I’ll just take my business elsewhere” and leave.
- Print off a map of Dallas from Google maps. Take it to the store. Wander from aisle to alternating your looks between the signs above the aisle and your map muttering stuff like “So, if this is aisle 6 and linens are over there, then Preston Road should be somewhere…wait…” or “I know Wal-Mart cashiers are always on the southern Wal-Martian border, so it should be right over here…”
- (Restaurant fun #1) Walk up to the cashier and order a cheeseburger. After they get done running their yap, look confused and look around. Slap your eyes in that self-depricating way and say something to the effect of, “Oh damn. I did it again. I thought this was Taco Bueno. Sorry.”
- (Restaurant fun #2) Walk up to the greeter with a friend and say “Party of two.” Wait patiently.
I have thousands of these and I still enjoy them more than destructive dumminess. If you ever end up in a mall, let me know. I wrote the book on mall fun.
by 3k on Aug 26, 2008 7:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So I guess
We know now what would happen if Pauly Shore impregnated Ryan Reynolds and their child was nursed by Sandy Hackett.
The only thing remotely funny about any of those wacky hi-jinks is that you wasted more than 10 seconds recounting them.
Seriously, though, you should be careful about posting this stuff online. I mean, I hear Albert Brooks is looking for some new material, and I’d hate for you to get this gold stolen.
by brettgardner on Aug 26, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1+
I think 3k is actually Neil Hamburger (youtube that name if you haven’t heard of him), the king of Anti-humor.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on Aug 26, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK....I youtubed it
to save you the trouble.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnoj-3mIlVw
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on Aug 26, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that the guy we traded for?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 26, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Neil Hamburger were the newest Ranger
because then the team would no longer be the laughing stock of the AL..they would be the “awkward throat clearing” of the league.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on Aug 27, 2008 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, you're weak
Seriously. What is with the picture of David Souter? You’re the douchiest.
by 3k on Aug 27, 2008 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
I guess your comedy doesn’t extend to witty retorts. That’s fine. The world always needs more Carrot Tops and Gallaghers.
by brettgardner on Aug 27, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carrot Top, Gallagher.
You’re being generous with those comps.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 27, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
I actually like Gallagher.
by brettgardner on Aug 27, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take that back
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 27, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a
Place in this world for Gallagher.
by brettgardner on Aug 27, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should try coming back with something like
“What’s the deal with the black box? If it’s the only thing that survives the crash, then why don’t they make the whole plane out of the black box? Huh? Huh? Don’t get me started….”
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on Aug 27, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the
Truly great SNL bits.
by brettgardner on Aug 27, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. My. God.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 26, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its just like if miles was dumber and poorer...
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 26, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a better speller
"Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states" - Barack Obama
by DaheelzCM on Aug 27, 2008 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
Hey, since Carlin passed away perhaps you could take his place.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 26, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Restaurant fun #2:
most of the greeters at Wal-Mart are old…
this one might be useful.
by oc on Aug 26, 2008 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at first...
I was like (--) and then I was like (--)
by Sky Hook on Aug 27, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MILES what the hell is going on up there?!?!?
That sounds like a scene out of “What’s eating Gilbert Grape”.
Oh well boys will be boys :)
I wouldn’t mind seeing a video of the whole ordeal though…
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 26, 2008 9:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who rec'd this diahrrea mess?
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 26, 2008 10:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
its worth a rec
for the picture above if nothing else!
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Aug 26, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
naw
ray guy!
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 26, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the
fuck is with my profile picture?
Today is the youngest you will ever be. Act like it.
by miles on Aug 26, 2008 11:41 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Hahahahahahaha
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 26, 2008 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry...
ROFL?
I see it all the time and my internet lingo sucks.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 27, 2008 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never
I’ll lol on occasion, but ROFL usually just means LOL …
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by Chase Irwin on Aug 27, 2008 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It means you're laughing harder than you are when you're just regular old LOL'ing, imo, fwiw, ftw.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 27, 2008 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
It was always my understanding that the scale is supposed to go (from lowest to highest):
LOL >>> LMAO/LMFAO >>> ROFL
We need to hire Chuck Norris to kick the ass of any Ranger fan caught booing one of our young pitchers at the RBiA.
by lonestarJon on Aug 27, 2008 5:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then there's
ROFLMAOWSMTMN (rolling on floor laughing my ass off while shooting milk through my nose)
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 27, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
I’ll be filing that away for use later.
We need to hire Chuck Norris to kick the ass of any Ranger fan caught booing one of our young pitchers at the RBiA.
by lonestarJon on Aug 27, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam, I just want you to know...
You’re my hero.
by jwiscarson on Aug 27, 2008 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That just made
Reading the thread worth the time.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Aug 27, 2008 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am validated as a human being.
There is a special place in heaven for Adam Jehosaphat Morris.
"One man, five scoops." -- shroomer
by ghtd36 on Aug 27, 2008 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
$5
says Miles did it himself…Pure Genius.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 27, 2008 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad theory
Most things Miles says he does, he actually does. Alone. In a dark place. Quietly. Sometimes with props. For long periods of time.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Aug 27, 2008 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew something epic was up in this thread
When I saw Miles’ profile pic had changed on the front page. And it is epic indeed.
And sort of scary too.
We need to hire Chuck Norris to kick the ass of any Ranger fan caught booing one of our young pitchers at the RBiA.
by lonestarJon on Aug 27, 2008 5:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're welcome
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Aug 27, 2008 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Solid gold.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 27, 2008 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I swear your icon photo was of George Costanza only a few minutes ago.
Now it’s back to the Pomeranian.
by Black Francis on Aug 27, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FANTASTIC!!!
love you adam!!
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 26, 2008 11:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
O K so Miles has some growing up to do...
…as did a lot of us at his age however Miles I doubt the people at Wal-Mart making $6 an hour feel like they’re all that. I would bet that most of them hate their jobs and hate wearing that ugly ass blue schmock even more. When someone comes along and makes their life more difficult than it already is that’s adding insult to injury. The problem with some rich kids is that they don’t really understand the plight of those who struggle.
Miles be nice to these people they have it hard enough. Greenie I have to give you an A for effort trying to defend this one. I’m a big Miles fan but the “making the mess” part of this story is truly unspinnable. It reminds me of the Larry Craig “wide stance” excuse. It just doesn’t flush.
You are still the man Miles. I just hope that next time you deal with people who struggle through life that you’re kind and compassionate. Their life is hard enough they don’t need some rich kid treating them like a piece of shit. What would be a million times more attractive would be someone like yourself who comes from money treating them with dignity and respect. That’s much more becoming trust me.
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 27, 2008 9:37 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Well put.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 27, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of
The sentiment was good but I have to take off points for his snobby portrayal of the folks that work at a place like Walmart.
"Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states" - Barack Obama
by DaheelzCM on Aug 27, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was focusing more on the
we should be nice to people aspect of it. When someone snaps back at Miles’ childishness and mean-spirited ways we’ll get a “I’m pissed!” diary.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 27, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we all know what happens when Miles gets pissed off ...
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by Chase Irwin on Aug 27, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He starts yipping
and chasing his tail in that adorable way of his?
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 27, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummmm excuse me..
I have a friend who works at Walmart. I don’t judge him at all. At least he’s working. They don’t treat their employess that well…they’re making $6 an hour…which after taxes is like $170 a week after taxes. I admire anybody who can do that….and survive. Yes the schmocks are ugly but the employees are admirable.
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 27, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For what its worth ...
… I didn’t take what you said as snobby towards Wal-Mart or retail employees in general at all. Hell, my stepdad still works there, he is full time and the “benefits” or what passes for them are laughable, as is the wage.
I used to work for HEB (do you guys have HEB in the metroplex? I think you at least have a Central Market) and if a punk like Miles pulled this crap, I would have told him to leave, period. We all worked too hard for too little for anyone (no matter if he is rich or not) to purposely act like a jackass and make more work for us. It’s common decency, no matter how much your paycheck reads at the end of the week.
by Melmart1 on Aug 27, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long has your stepdad worked there?
"Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states" - Barack Obama
by DaheelzCM on Aug 27, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, man ...
… quite awhile. I think something like almost a decade now, at least eight years. My mom worked there almost 20 years ago when she was preggers with my youngest brother, and she liked it at the time, of course this was before Sam Walton died, they treated their employees a lot better then.
Why do you ask?
by Melmart1 on Aug 27, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason I ask
And now I am going to sound like a snob but…
If the pay and benefits are so bad then why hasn’t he found another job?
"Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states" - Barack Obama
by DaheelzCM on Aug 27, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how SNOBBY of you!!!!
maybe he enjoys struggling and just getting by!!
:) just kidding
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 27, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's his personal decision ...
… I don’t like that he hasn’t tried to make a better life for him and my mom, but it’s really none of my business. Of course, you have to factor in that at this point, starting over somewhere else would be nearly as bad, being low man on the totem pole again.
Nonetheless, that doesn’t take away from the fact that health insurance that costs more than 1/4 of your monthly salary from a company making billions is just ridiculous. I know they can get a better deal for their employees if they would just pony up a little more themselves.
by Melmart1 on Aug 27, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I worked at Safeway...
for years. I made pretty damn good money back then..like 15 bucks an hour plus time and a half for overtime or holidays. Which at the time was good money and great benefits. Its a ton of work unloading a truck and stocking all that shit…
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 27, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My kid brother ...
… just applied to walmart to be an overnight stocker … they start at $7/hr. Unbelievable. I told him he could do better but it’s convenient since he has no car. Poor kid.
by Melmart1 on Aug 27, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeh that's kinda low ..
for all that work. He should try a supermarket like Safeway or HEB..I’d like to think they’d make more than that… at least they used to.
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 27, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was a stock-boy at WinnDixie
back when I was a kid, and they payed minimum wage (probably $5.15 at the time).
by JBImaknee on Aug 27, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I worked in a meatball factory
one summer. $4 an hour. At least I got to sleep in until 4:00 a.m. before going to work.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 27, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Got to" sleep in until four?
That sounds atrocious.
by jwiscarson on Aug 27, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I spent 40 years as night watchman at a cranberry silo
I’ve seen it all, doncha know.
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 27, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
where the hell was that?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 27, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's an Abe Simpson quote
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 27, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, to answer his question
it was in Springfield?
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 27, 2008 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanx tball
i was still puzzled.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 27, 2008 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
California...
…I’m assuming you were union?
by Black Francis on Aug 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually it was a Safeway...
in Dallas and yes it was union.
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 27, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm very pro-union
I’ve never been a member of one, but if not for unions there’s no telling where I’d be today. My grandparents on my mother’s side grew up as sharecroppers during the depression. And before the depression their parents were sharecroppers then, too.
My grandfather then moved to Fort Worth and worked at a steel mill. Union job. Then he went to work for the Santa Fe Railroad in Cleburne, also unionized. This man had to drop out of school to work on the farm like so many others, but was still provided an opportunity to work hard and receive a good wage with benefits. He was able to support both his parents and my grandmothers parents in their old age as well as his own family while working a blue collar job. My grandmother never worked a day in her life, yet still receives a pension from the railroad and isn’t a burden to society.
I don’t know as much about my other grandparents, but they were also from Cleburne and that grandfather also worked for Santa Fe, although I think he was a foreman and probably not Union.
Anyway, the point is, people could make a fucking living back then. Even though my grandfather dropped out after the eighth grade, you’d NEVER guess that by talking to him. In part because he had a 40 hour week and a decent wage he gradually educated himself.
To an extent we are all a product of how we grew up, and I feel I owe the labor movement quite a bit.
If only the AFL-CIO were truly interested in organizing more workers this country would be a better place, I think. I know I certainly wouldn’t mind paying more for groceries if it meant the millions and millions of people who work at WalMarts and grocery stores across this country could not only stay off welfare but become actual participants in our economy.
by Black Francis on Aug 27, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow interesting family work history...
I’m with you on the pro-union stance and I’d pay more for groceries too. I have NO idea how these people make it on $170 a week for a full time job. More power to them though.. if they can do it.
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 27, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh...
“If only the AFL-CIO were truly interested in organizing more workers this country would be a better place,”
I really don’t agree with that at all.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 27, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
The state of Michigan is thriving due the influence of the unions in the automobile industry.
"Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states" - Barack Obama
by DaheelzCM on Aug 27, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
France is having a grand time of things, too.
I think that the unions have pretty much served their useful purpose, yet people tend to romanticize them.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 27, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I Mean...
I agree with you that they’ve largely served their purpose when it comes to the manufacturing and transportation sectors. I think they should be more active in other sectors. While I realize that it’s difficult to organize the unskilled workforce (because I’ve tried to do it), I think it can and should be done with some of the larger employers who set the standard in terms of wages and benefits. I’m mainly talking about Wal Mart. Even if the UFCW cannot organize the entire company, I’d sure as hell like to see them make some inroads.
Corporations have the right to organize, and so should workers. That’s what it boils down to. Technically the workers do but Wal Mart…well the law doesn’t seem to apply to them. Even if they just had to play by the rules, they’d raise wages and offer better benefits just to keep unions out. That’s what Costco does very effectively, and they’re growing at a faster rate than Sam’s Clubs.
by Black Francis on Aug 27, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
USA has less holiday time than any other "modern nation"
how exactly have they “served their purpose”?
family leave act isnt that old of a bill, we havent accomplished that much in a long time when it comes to unions. they have a lot of work to do.
and i dont even like unions.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 27, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So?
If you want more holiday time, either: 1) work for yourself, or 2) take unpaid time off.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 27, 2008 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point screw unions.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 27, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If wealth of a nation...
is defined by GDP, and the wealth of the nation benefits the people in the nation, I don’t see how paying people to sit around and watch Oprah instead of something productive is in any way helpful.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 27, 2008 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Healthier, more rested/relaxed workforces
Are more productive?
by jwiscarson on Aug 28, 2008 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Europe...
No country there matches our per capita GDP, and they all have more time off than we do. Where’s all that extra production going?
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not arguing what Europe does.
Both of the companies I’ve worked for encouraged time off (formerly NEC, and now ThyssenKrupp Elevator). Our parent company at TKE told the Americas branch that we were in danger of burning out our employees.
I’m not necessarily arguing that we should have an extra week off per year (I do think that one or two well-placed Federal holidays could serve their purpose, though), just that there is reasoning behind giving people more time off.
by jwiscarson on Aug 28, 2008 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well..
then give me an example where two competitors with differing time-off policies will illustrate your point. Because the clearest example I can think of is the Europe / U.S. GDP one.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Without advanced economic analysis...
I don’t think either of us can prove our respective points on anything more than an anecdotal basis.
On that note, however, I will offer up one explanation:
I’m a software engineer, and one of the people I work closely with is our IT purchasing manager. He makes decisions about all computer-related hardware and software purchased by TKE. His German equivalent is a board of IT directors (for lack of a better term). Ten people (most of whom are executives of one form or another) who meet on a regular basis and make decisions like:
- Should we include DVI cables with our monitors?
- Should we renew our Dell service agreements?
- Should we upgrade to Office 2007?
Again, I have no idea how widespread this practice is.
by jwiscarson on Aug 28, 2008 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem...
with lots of time off is that a lot of redundancy has to be built into the system, particularly in Europe where hiring/firing practices are less flexible.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily.
Employees should be cross-trained to a degree — depending on a sole employee to handle business-critical matters is an unsafe practice regardless of time off.
Where I work, we just block off vacation time so that there’s always someone around to handle support questions.
by jwiscarson on Aug 28, 2008 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about...
a company of, say, 15-20 employees?
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that I can honestly answer that.
Having never worked for a smaller company, I’m not sure if their situations are tailored more towards “everyone knows how to do everyone else’s job” or towards “everyone is a specialist and nobody else knows what they do”.
I realized just now that I missed part of your response (“lots of time off”). I don’t think that vacation policy should be what France’s is (something like five weeks a year, I think). I’m just saying that a few extra federal holidays would help.
by jwiscarson on Aug 28, 2008 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
that, if we’re formulating policy, we can’t tell Wal-Mart “you have to do this” and tell a company that grosses $10 million a year with 20 employees “you don’t.”
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I follow you here.
We were talking about cross-training employees. If everyone’s gone from a small business on a federal holiday, where’s the cross-training concern?
by jwiscarson on Aug 28, 2008 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
my father’s business works on federal holidays.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coverage for Vital
Tasks. My company was very small. Each person a specialist. So I subcontracted an international frreight forwarder who can handle a variety of issues, on call. Still, I worked almost constantly, since much of the world doesn’t observe the same business days or hours.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Aug 28, 2008 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so is that the compassionate conservative in ya?
sorry, i cant help myself, its too easy.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am, by no means...
a compassionate conservative. Compassion, my girlfriend will tell you, is not a quality I really strive for.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
poor ben
you kinda set yourself up for that. its funny though so you get brownie points.
ps: its not something you strive for? that makes it a conscientious decision. i may be an asshole but i strive not to be. how do you not strive to be compassionate?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I was being flip.
But I honestly don’t see why I should care if I’m labeled “compassionate” in my political views.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you comment basically was
work for yourself or fuck off. i work for myself and i can handle that option and actually respect it. but honestly, companies arent holding onto their employees long term, and new hired have to work a full year before they get any form of time off. with the stress of the type of job i do that doesnt keep employees loyal or allow them to last long, a bunch snap.
now thats cool with me but it seems if you are willing to spend 6 months training a guy and a ton of money, maybe the work for yourself or fuck off theory is worse for business and worse for the economy than if you just gave the guy a week of during the slow time of the year.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't...
know of any company that isn’t willing to give a guy a week off at a slow time during the year.
And my comment wasn’t “work for yourself or fuck off.” It was, essentially, “deal with the consequences of your decision.” Want the stability of a corporate paycheck? Live with the decision. Want the freedom of being your own boss? Live with the decision.
You want 6 weeks off, paid during the year, plus bennies? I want a beautiful blonde with an ass that tastes like french vanilla ice cream.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and i agree with that
but when a kid can graduate with a degree in the US and move to europe and get that strong offer and have a stronger monetary weight and time off, how is america suposed to compete?
america always stomped the old europe b/c of a strong dollar and fair labor practices, now our dollar isnt competitive and our benefits arent competitive. your a young kid, you just graduated from SMU with a finance degree, and 2 companies give you an offer one in spain and one in the USA.
which do you choose?
and then all of the sudden we are losing our best minds b/c we arent competive.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/jun/05/20070605-092649-8531r/
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no mention of spain huh?
also an article in june of ’07 analyzing the ’06 trend is pretty out of date given the change in the economy.
im just saying from experience, my little cousin is a 22 year old woman/girl with an economics degree from SMU and she got basically the same offers from 2 companies, one in the states and one in spain.
given the strength of the euro and the benefits, it was a no brainer.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think...
that the trends have really changed since 2006 – 2007, but I’m open to something besides anecdotal evidence to the contrary.
Incidentally, if she got the same offers, I wonder what the effective tax rate is in Spain vs. the U.S.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 6:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
she was offered the same offers after taxes
heh, that is a key.
anyway here is a graph on the euro to dollar inflation rate over the last 5 years.
the trend since 2006 has certainly changed.
graph wouldnt fit check it out
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unions didn't kill the Big Three
A very good case could be made that they simply don’t build cars that people want to buy, especially now that the SUV craze is over. And even if they were equal to their overseas competition in terms of styling, quality and cost of ownership, remember that both parties have to sign a collective bargaining agreement.
And I’d add that we’ve lost just as many jobs in light manufacturing over the last couple decades as we have in the automobile industry, and those are not typically unionized jobs.
by Black Francis on Aug 27, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The SUV craze...
but what forced the automakers to emphasize the production of light trucks to the exclusion of more efficient vehicles was because they made so much more off them. And the reason they had to purely focus on vehicles that made them the most money was because of the large, unfunded liabilities they have (largely as a result of unions).
Pension funds (and other defined benefit plans) sort of have the same problem… instead of sticking to relatively balanced and safe investments, they take larger and larger risks.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 27, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so.
But you’re free to think otherwise.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 27, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless
Do you honestly believe that they weren’t going to build the most profitable vehicle even if they had no unfunded liabilities? I don’t buy that one. Gas was cheap and that’s what the people wanted, so they made them.
And these days I’m the car business, and deal with a ton of mechanics. I’m not a mechanic but you hear things. The reason the Big Three don’t produce quality cars is because they are designed poorly. The designers aren’t union.
Today Chrysler’s in danger of failing completely. Ford is in a little better shape. GM is in the best shape of the big three because they produce a lot of cars for overseas markets and you’re going to start seeing them here soon.
It’s simple lack of foresight. All three have the ability to produce efficient engines, and GM and Ford actually produce quite a few of them. The problem is they have few decent cars to put them in. American designs are very uninspiring to say the least, unless you’re looking at the new generation of muscle cars like the Charger, Mustang, and Camaro, which will be popular but not save them.
Do the pensions and all of that hurt the Big Three? Well, yeah. But the union bosses weren’t holding guns to their heads to force them to sign the CBA’s. And it’s not something they couldn’t overcome if they hadn’t lost so much market share.
by Black Francis on Aug 27, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
“But the union bosses weren’t holding guns to their heads to force them to sign the CBA’s.”
That’s an interesting choice of words.
Regardless, one of the main reasons the big three emphasized light trucks was because they made the most money of them. They had to emphasize the product they made the most money on, because of the unfunded liabilities.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 27, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what all companies do
They maximize profit. They would’ve done the same thing whether they were union or not.
The problems isn’t their workforce or the CBA’s. It’s the design of the cars. The Asian and European companies are taking hits because they got involved with SUVs, too, but the difference is the European automakers export for the luxury market and the Asian companies have much more diverse product lines. Toyota and Honda in particular were way, way out ahead on hybrids. In the near future this will make a big difference.
Where are the hybrids from the Big Three? There’s a Chevy Tahoe that costs thousands more and only gets a couple more miles to a gallon. Great choice, GM. There’s a Hummer Hybrid. They’re coming out with pickup trucks that are hybrid. Ford has the only viable American hybrid, which is also a truck: the Escape.
So where are the cars, Detroit? Why in the hell would anyone buy a Tahoe Hybrid that still can’t break 23 or 24 MPG??? How much did they waste in developing that albatross?
I saw an ad on TV while ago that illustrates why the Big Three are in trouble. A gasoline Tahoe for $25k. It would have cost thousands more not long ago, but they can’t give them away. The same ad featured a double cab Chevy Slivarado for under $16k. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but if you wanted that same truck just a year ago would you not have paid more than four or five thousand dollars more? Even in Texas they can’t give that dinosaur away.
That’s their problem: they simply cannot sell their product. They should have seen the market for SUVs drying up. You’d think they’d keep track of things like the economy and the oil markets so that they could respond to them. There was only one direction this realistically could have headed and it’s not the unions fault they weren’t prepared for it.
And there are other bizarre decisions, too. It’s not just “hey let’s make a giant hybrid, price it accordingly, and people will buy it even though it still sucks at fuel economy.” Ford had one of the most popular cars in the United States year after year after year. The Taurus. What did they do? They discontinued it. That’s real smart. Last I heard they were rebadging the “500” as a Taurus or something. And just look at GM’s lineup of compacts and mid-size cars. One, they’re ugly or bland (Malibu for example). Two, they cannot compete with comparable Japanese models on quality or fuel economy.
Again, that’s not the Union’s fault. They don’t design these pieces of shit.
by Black Francis on Aug 28, 2008 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um...
"That’s what all companies do
They maximize profit. They would’ve done the same thing whether they were union or not."
No, not really. I don’t think I’m pointing out something revolutionary when I say that Ford and GM sold light trucks to maximize cash flow, and that they had to maximize cash flow because of their unfunded liabilities.
There are lots of things that companies do rather than maximize cash flow at the expense of the long term health of the company… but that’s exactly what the big 3 did.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you're saying
but how do you explain the length of time that they continued to produce and promote their SUV/light truck lines? Why did they believe that light trucks would continue to sell in a saturated market that also included rising gas prices?
by jwiscarson on Aug 28, 2008 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind, I think I answered my own question...
I’m guessing the appropriate response is that they thought the profits they made/make per SUV/light truck sale would exceed the combined profits of higher economical car sales.
by jwiscarson on Aug 28, 2008 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's...
my understanding.
But this kind of behavior isn’t limited to automobile manufacturers, by any means. Risk management is something everyone should think about.
The big 3 took a big risk and maximized their cashflow in the short term. It’s now biting them in the ass. Of course, no speculative bubble in oil, and it looks like a smart play on their part.
You see this with individuals, as well… people that make riskier and riskier decisions as they near retirement, instead of scaling back the risk.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GM
i lost a lot of bottom line sympathy for that group when they sold of their finance dept. at a time when it was the only profitable part of their business. the finance dept is what made them where they are now, and they sold it off? thats what the dumb small company who eventually gets owned by the big boys does.
it was really really dumb, and its something that makes me ask, why the hell should any1 help you?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GM...
spunoff GMAC because they feared that S&P and Moody’s would lower ratings on their debt issues. That would dramatically increase GM’s expense to borrow money. Spinning off GMAC gave GM an avenue to “investment grade” rates on borrowed money.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right but the rest of the company was losing its ass
so how does that help the investor or the companies profit margin?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If GMAC...
can give GM access to less expensive bond issues, that helps the investor and the company because less money is being spent as a credit expense.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry...I just can't buy that
When gas was cheap they had a vehicle that could produce and sell at high margins, and they would have done so even if they had no liabilities. Every other automaker in the world followed suit but had sense enough to keep on producing cars that rational people would buy when the party was over.
All signs pointed to the price of crude oil rising. There is a speculative element to that, but that’s not all of it. This is a situation that the big three should have prepared themselves for, period. No matter what they owe and to whom, in the end they’re still in the business of selling cars. And as it turns out they’re not very good at it.
And again, look at American cars. The styling is really pretty bad with a few exceptions. Does it cost much more to design and build a car that looks better? If so, why aren’t Japanese cars much more expensive?
While these underfunded liabilities probably do make the big three less profitable, they could do still do better if they sold cars that people want right now.
I think GM will survive, and Ford probably will, too. GM at least has a number of economical vehicles, and even if they aren’t pretty, they cost a little less than Japanese cars and are reliable enough. Ford has a very popular car in the Focus, and very strong fleet sales for trucks.
Chrysler, though…I just can’t see them being in business much longer. They deal with the same unions but people don’t want a car that’s literally going to fall apart on them. They have no reliable, economical cars. None. As a result they’ll be the first and hopefully the last to go down.
Seriously, you’re not puzzled when GM, Ford, and Chrysler are rolling out cars with 250 to 400 (!) horsepower when it’s clear that oil has peaked? It’s like they’re living in an alternate reality. Yeah they’re going to sell quite a few of those because we are still a wealthy country and so many people love the nostalgia that those types of cars elicit. Hell, I’d like to have one. But that’s not where the mass market is and if they expect the Camaro, Mustang, and Charger to keep them afloat they’re sorely mistaken. And what’s more is if you’ve ever read Motor Trend or a similar publication, you know that these particular cars cost an absolute fortune to develop. The only carryovers are the short blocks. New fuel systems, new exhaust, new suspension, new transmissions…new everything. Just bizzare.
It’s way too late…I’m going to bed.
by Black Francis on Aug 28, 2008 3:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
you seem to be saying that each of the big 3 independently arrived at the same conclusion (to maximize current cash flow by emphasizing light trucks), that they each have the unfunded liabilities problem, but that the two are completely unrelated.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 6:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't know much about the car business
GM, Ford and Chrysler have produced the frames, engines and transmissions those things are built around forever. The 350ci engine that GM uses has been around since the 60’s or 70’s, and it is based on the 327 which was around since the 1950’s. The transmissions are now electronically controlled now but they are still TH400’s with a few minor changes. That thing goes back to the 60’s. Other than the body, they are pick up trucks. And they’ve built SUVs for a long time, too. If you can find a 1972 Chevy Blazer in good shape, it’s going to be worth a lot of money on the classic market.
In the 1990’s the economy was good and the gas was at an all-time low accounting for inflation. Producing more full-size SUVs was very, very easy because they already had all the parts. Just stick another body on it, do the crash tests, and there you go.
Other automakers didn’t produce full size light pickups, so it took them a while catch up. The big three simply followed the market and were in a position to get there much faster than anyone else.
They would have done this whether or not they had all those pensions to pay, because their job is to make money. The full-size SUV cost very little to produce compared to what they were able to sell it for, and there was very little in terms of R&D involved.
The problem lies in the fact that they were unable or unwilling to produce cars that people wanted to buy. In spite of strong SUV sales, US companies continued to lose market share throughout the craze and did not do anything about it. I’m sure at least one person on the inside of all three companies warned that the party would end someday, but if you look at the ads on TV and you simply drive by any car lot you’ll see that the warning went unheeded.
I don’t see how this is the UAW’s problem. Well it’s obviously a problem for them because the plants their members worked at are getting shut down. But it’s not their fault. I fail to understand why you think it is. The simple fact is the market changed and Detroit no longer had anything to offer the American consumer. They poured millions and millions into coming up with Hybrid SUVs, which is just stupid. They poured millions and millions into a new generation of muscle cars that look great and do what they’re supposed to do. But what about normal people? They don’t sell a car targeted at them that can compete with the Japanese. They short on compacts and subcompacts, but they do sell them. They’re just not good enough. They produce mid-size cars in the same class that the Asian companies do, but nobody wants to buy them because they suck. It’s engineering and design.
Again, whether or not they have underfunded liabilities, the goal of these companies is to sell cars. It’s the only way they have to make money. To do that they have to make and market a product that people want.
Lack of foresight on the part of management. Not labor’s fault. I can repeat myself over and over but it’s useless if you think it’s the UAW’s fault that management clung to the small block V8 and produced vehicles that would go with that drivetrain.
by Black Francis on Aug 28, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Japanese Companies
don’t have an old, greying workforce, and they don’t have retirement and medical expenses. Oh wait, they do.
Im sure it was just unfunded liabilities that made US cars not invest in hybrid technologies like Toyota and Honda did.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 28, 2008 4:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that's an interesting question...
what percentage of Japanese vehicles are produced by that old, greying workforce? And I would be surprised if they had the same “til death do us part” relationship with their former workers that Detroit does.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 6:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually,
government picks up a lot of their healthcare so they don’t have those issues. Companies pay through taxes.
Japan has a worse demographic issue with greying than we do though. Not sure if they still do, but they used to put old workers out to pasture by giving some of the office workers desks and offices, but no actual work to do.
I think you will see more and more companies shed lifetime medical, and then there will be an outcry for government to pick it up when the older middle class is no longer covered. Companies being responsible for medical is basicly an artifact from WW2 anyway.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 28, 2008 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On this note
I saw a really interesting Frontline overview of universal healthcare around the world. They spoke to government officials in several nations with universal healthcare, comparing quality of coverage, quality of care, and overall cost.
Here’s a graph showing those comparisons. Note Japan’s place on all those graphs.
by jwiscarson on Aug 28, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frontline is a good show.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why invest in it themselves?
when they’ll end up getting $50 billion from the government?
by SteveP on Aug 28, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
suv craze
was fueled by the auto industry getting “trucks” intended in the law to be for farm and for commercial use to also cover SUV’s when it came to fuel efficiency inn the laws. thats their PACs that did that. and they did it so they wouldnt have to spend a dime on R and D and they could spit out the same crap engines with the same crap fuel standards they put out since the 70’s.
that was caused by flat greed for the benefit of their stock prices.
but sure, the unions are a lot to blame. ;)
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 27, 2008 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Righty-o...
the oil industry also knows how to fuel our cars on Al Gore’s smug sense of superiority, but they won’t bring it to market because the Illuminati won’t let them.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 27, 2008 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummmmm
facts brotha. we are having a rational discussion.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, because it was the unions
who bet the ranch on big, gas guzzling SUVs and didn’t invest in Hybrids and were caught with their pants down when gas went to $4 a gallon.
Seems to me it was the big boys making the big bonuses who screwed the pooch for GM and Ford.
Toyota is cranking up 5 more plants in North America. They don’t appear to be too scared of the unions.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 27, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
toyota isnt union
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 27, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No they aren't
But the letters “U”, “A”, and “W” make them pay union-like wages and benefits. They don’t get as good of a retirement, but if they skimp on the rest the workers will organize and they know it.
by Black Francis on Aug 27, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kentucky is unionizing,
and I believe their joint venture Nummi is union, and I believe a Canadian plant is union.
But you are right, not all their plants are union.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 27, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding Unions
Scientific post-docs have unionized in California recently, and as I may very soon enter that domain – and thus be forced into the union – I’ve thought about this a bit.
I have the following problems with unions
1 – If a group unionizes, everyone is forced to join. This can be done by collecting signatures on cards by 50%+1 of employees. Not an up/down secret ballot, but a petition that is not secret and people are often coerced and manipulated to sign. At that moment, everyone is forced to join the union, pay the dues, etc, regardless of their preference. This is fundamentally undemocratic.
2 – The bureaucracy and associated expense that is generated is ridiculous. 100,000 people paying 1% of their salary to a union? Even at post-doc salaries, that is a LOT of money that is going to lawyers, union lobbyists, etc.
3- the political implications. By mandating that everyone at that job pay into the pot regardless of their wishes, you are basically forcing people to donate to political causes without their consent. Obviously if the causes were in the interest of the unionized employees it’d be one thing, but we all know that isn’t the case…
Its sad, because there are groups of employees who could benefit from a common voice. But the bloated, politically charged unions of today are not what they need.
by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your
Assertion in #3 is not really correct.
by brettgardner on Aug 28, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
I see words like insult, injury, and struggle and it seems like you are putting yourself above them.
"Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states" - Barack Obama
by DaheelzCM on Aug 27, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOT AT ALL..
I’m recognizing that it’s a HARD ASS job.. I used to stock shelves as a kid working the graveyard shift…Thats HARD WORK.
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 27, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Used to work for UFCW
…and have had lots and lots of interaction with WalMart employees. They really are a beaten down group of people. It’s not an insult to them, and it’s not “snobbery” to say so.
by Black Francis on Aug 27, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks T!
I have a rich friend who at times gets a little pretentious. I can’t be around him when he’s like that. I find that incredibly un-attractive. If there is such a thing as re-incarnation those who go through life treating others poorly ….will wind up cleaning toilets with some rich guy yelling at them all day that they missed a speck.
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 27, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I have never actually used a +1, but if there was ever a time, this is it. Well-done.
by Melmart1 on Aug 27, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So ... how does it feel?
"I’ll say something that doesn’t need context: anyone who is a Mariner’s fan is a douchebag." - FuturePants
by Chase Irwin on Aug 27, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel free ...
… like I should run through the meadow dancing and doing cartwheels with the wind through my hair, like the girls in the old-school feminine hygiene commercials.
by Melmart1 on Aug 27, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks Mel...
Glad I could help your + 1 come out of the closet.
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 27, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder ...
… if that is the first person you have helped out of the closet, haha.
by Melmart1 on Aug 27, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha ROFL ummmm no you're not the first..
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 27, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey LA
I wasn’t defending Miles’ actions but my own for my one-time dodgeball game. I would never advocate making anyone’s life more miserable unless it is warranted.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 27, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's OK Greenie..
You’re like me.. my first inclination is to defend Miles..because I like him. But after reading this diary there was no way I could possibly spin it without looking like a jackass. I did stupid shit when I was Miles age so it’s not about judging but seeing the big picture. These people work hard for what little they get paid.
"California is the most liberal state in the union. No joke that place is probably going to slide into the ocean one of these days. California is a wasteland run by liberals"
-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!
by LAMuscleFag on Aug 27, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One could do worse
than be a rider of wheelchairs.
by SteveP on Aug 27, 2008 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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