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The Daily Show...

You know, I used to get quite a kick out of The Daily Show.  When Colbert, Carrell, et al were on the show, the correspondents' bits were hilarious.  There seemed to be an intent to poke fun at both sides of the aisle.

Watching it this week, though, is just kind of sad.  Stewart is basically just writing a weeklong mash note to the DNC in 30 minute installments.  One of the things I respect about Colbert is that he's a lot more subtle (and funny).  The frustrating thing is that I like and respect Stewart as a comic, and it irritates me and cheapens the show that he's so readily wearing his allegiances on his sleeve.

It makes me wish that there were a photogenic, TV-friendly P.J. O'Rourke clone that wanted to have a show.

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I haven't watched the show regularly in quite a while

I recall a bit more even-handed humor on the occasions I caught the show, though.

I don’t know if you saw the episodes where he had McCain as a guest, but the tension was quite palpable between those two. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jon harbored some resentment towards him for the change in his political demeanor.

Also, if it makes you feel any better, they had Rob Riggle do a show on the Berkley protesters (this was back when Berkley passed that ordinance or whatever it was allowing people to block the Marine recruiting office). The segment he put on lambasted the absurd liberal culture quite hard.

by jwiscarson on Aug 28, 2008 12:54 AM CDT   0 recs

Well...

I wouldn’t be surprised about McCain and Stewart having tension. I hear that McCain is not a real pleasant guy, prone to grudges, humiliating people, etc. I would imagine that him being on a political comedy show would rub him the wrong way.

Speaking of tension, did you ever see O’Reilly on Colbert Report? That was hilarious.

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 1:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I heard about it...

but never saw the episode. I seem to recall Stephen Colbert saying that he modeled his show’s personality on a rule of O’Reilly’s. It was something like, “never let your guest talk for more than seven seconds”.

I remember seeing video of him at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, playing his Colbert Report character and just destroying Bush (who was only a few feet away from him). That was just about the most tense/hilarious politically-related thing I’ve ever experienced in my life.

by jwiscarson on Aug 28, 2008 1:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah...

but the big difference between Colbert and Stewart is that I could see Colbert doing something similar (to the correspondent’s dinner) to, say, Clinton.

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 1:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

pffffft

dont kid yourself man.

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 3:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's made Dems...

look pretty silly on his show before.

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 6:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

He doesn’t believe in it, but he gives democrats a lot of hell on his show.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg1 on Aug 28, 2008 9:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i never noticed tension between

Stewart and McCain. Seemed like they talked as if they were old college buddies. The guy’s been on the show about 50 times.

by SteveP on Aug 28, 2008 10:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

it's just a show full of

out of context clips that are easily made fun of…the real talent on the show is the correspondents who havent been good since rob corddry left.

by phatjeremy on Aug 28, 2008 12:58 AM CDT   0 recs

question:

having never been a fan of science fiction… should i give Battlestar Galactica a chance?

by oc on Aug 28, 2008 1:00 AM CDT   0 recs

yeah

that dude from A team was cool, at least when i was 5. dirk benedict. id give it a shot.

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 1:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We F-ing get it

Non sequitur. Although, you could have figured it out based on the title of this diary.

Nothing pithy here. Please move long.

by WyoRanger on Aug 28, 2008 2:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I assume you're talking about the current series.

Yes, it is pretty good. And Tricia Helfer is ridiculously hot.

by Athos on Aug 28, 2008 10:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Her cans

Real, or enhanced through the miracley goodness of science and progress?

Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.

by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2008 11:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

who cares...

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg1 on Aug 28, 2008 12:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So, b/c I contradicted you below, are you now going to pick a fight w/ me?

Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.

by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2008 12:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

over boobs, no less.

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 4:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i always figured

(D) or® the one thing in common was a love of boobs.

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 4:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It was actually a joke

as in I’m a fan of the entire genre :D

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg1 on Aug 28, 2008 6:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cool...

Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.

by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2008 7:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hmm

i have no problem with this diary myself, but your rights to complain to other people have been revoked.

i do agree about the shows though. i used to watch the daily show every day. now ill occasionally watch colbert and thats about it.

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Aug 28, 2008 2:34 AM CDT   0 recs

Why?

This diary has 75 words in it, at least. And doesn’t consist of me recounting some douchebaggy thing I did at Wal-Mart or something.

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 6:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's true

But it’s still every bit as worthless considering this is supposed to be a baseball blog.

A Lonestar in California

We need to hire Chuck Norris to kick the ass of any Ranger fan caught booing one of our young pitchers at the RBiA.

by lonestarJon on Aug 28, 2008 7:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

still every bit as worthless

Come on, Jon – nearly everyone puts up OT fanposts and fanshots. Don’t act like it’s something extraordinary.

by Randy Richardson on Aug 28, 2008 10:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not

But Ben has, and that was DShep’s original point.

A Lonestar in California

We need to hire Chuck Norris to kick the ass of any Ranger fan caught booing one of our young pitchers at the RBiA.

by lonestarJon on Aug 28, 2008 10:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I find

The right kind of OT posts to be beneficial. You learn whose opinions you trust and value on this site, and the right kind of OT discussions (other sports, entertainment, some politics) lead to some quality stuff. Naturally, you don’t want to overload the diary section with OT crap, but a solid topic or a sporadic nonsense thread can spice it up around here.

We’re all here because we love the Rangers, but how many times can we really talk about Salty’s defense or MY’s range. Some randomness helps out, especially this time of year.

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Aug 28, 2008 11:08 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I endorse this message

Hear hear.

Or, since we are on the series of tubes, is it See See? Or perhaps Read Read!

Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.

by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2008 11:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I reserve the right

to be completely inconsistent in my complaints about OT posts.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Aug 28, 2008 1:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

word!!!!

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Aug 28, 2008 4:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Stick to baseball

like asking what we think the rotation will be next year. Now thats good bloggery.

"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky

by DJCahill on Aug 28, 2008 7:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Daily Show is still even-handed

but the big story this week is the DNC so all of the jokes are aimed at that while McCain is out of the spotlight. I’m sure the focus will change during the RNC. It’s just special occasions.

Call 1-800-DOCTORB. The B is for bargain!

by Panorama on Aug 28, 2008 6:44 AM CDT   0 recs

x

Who cares how it slants? It’s a comedy show. Not every comedic performance has to be subtle. By the way, Colbert’s show is about as subtle as a parade. Everything is done with gigantic overtures and everything but the knowing wink into the camera.

by brettgardner on Aug 28, 2008 7:04 AM CDT   1 recs

I think Ben's point

is that in the past, while there may have been a bias (all shows have biases), there didn’t seem like an agenda. In recent years, due to the politically charged atmosphere, Stewart has seemed torn between what the show was (making fun of everyone) and his own beliefs (should he use the shows popularity to reach a prime demographic politically?). As a result, he has been less funny. Its a shame too, because the old daily show (making fun of everyone indiscriminately) would be very strong in this time.

Colbert is different – it isn’t subtle at all, but its humor and the agenda it pushes go hand in hand. So it isn’t awkward and forced, and is thus good comedy

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2008 8:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I still don't get it.

Why is it less funny if it has an agenda? If you can’t laugh at what you believe in, how secure are in your beliefs? People just take their silly beliefs too seriously. If there were a conservative equivalent that was just as funny, I’d watch it, too.

by brettgardner on Aug 28, 2008 9:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My point is different

I didn’t say that it wasn’t funny because there in an agenda. Obviously Colbert’s show is a big joke about conservatives, but it works because that is the joke. The Daily Show is a fundamentally different joke, laughing at news and politicians in general by finding (or creating) humor in the daily news. Its a great idea, but not one that really fits with infusing a political agenda. I think it just kidn of sucks the innocent fun out of it and makes it too serious. Which makes it unfunny. At least that is my opinion.

Maybe it is because I originally watched the Daily Show in the Craig Kilborn days and early Jon Stewart days that I don’t find the current show as funny. I’m just an old fogey.

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2008 11:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeesh

So you’re that one guy on earth who doesn’t despise Craig Kilborn. Nice to meet ya.

In all honesty, I understand the point you’re making, but I suppose I don’t approach it the same way. If it makes me laugh, I really don’t care what it’s lampooning or why—at least, I don’t try to make the comedy fit into a box of, say, “news satire.” If it does its job, i.e. makes me laugh, then the satire and the plans and everything else are implied, and I’m happy.

by brettgardner on Aug 28, 2008 11:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Daily Show

It seems to me that the main problem with the daily show these days is the correspondents are just not funny and the writing has really never recovered from the strike. Colbert gets all the good jokes anymore. I think it is because of his towering stature compared to Jon the Jewish Leprechaun.

by bushe on Aug 28, 2008 8:25 AM CDT   0 recs

it's pretty disgusting

to see the light in which the media paints Obama, Biden and the Clintons and the dark veil it places over any thought of McCain and especially Bush. and even worse to see that the main, and only real campaign point that the dems rely on is that “McCain voted with Bush on 95%” and that “McCain is More of the Same.”

"So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know... "

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 28, 2008 9:05 AM CDT   0 recs

As opposed to the deep philosophical insights we get from the right

like calling them “tax and spend liberals”?

Frankly, the right has been much more effective than the left to reducing everything to bumper sticker slogans.

Bumper sticker slogans work, and the Left would be stupid not to reduce McCain to “The third term of Bush”.

"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky

by DJCahill on Aug 28, 2008 9:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

true, true

what easier way to reach the countless brainless souls roaming the streets, looking for somebody else to shove them in the right direction.

I agree with lots of Obama’s points, I agree with a lot that Bill Clinton did while he was in office. I disagree with the way Bush has gone about things, and I dislike the way Chaney, Rumsfeld and others handled themselves and painted the Bush administration.

but what it all comes down to at the end of the day, for me, is the morals I follow, my own personal studies vs. what somebody else in this world wants me to believe, and of course my own personal point of view – which, granted, is far from the average citizen of the United States.

I wish Obama’s voting platform had more substance than starting and finishing with comments like, “John McCain is another Bush,” or “Change! We don’t need more of the same, we need change!” As with Kerry’s run at the office, I just don’t get a good feel for exactly what Obama has up his sleeve. I’m afraid of his socialist background, I’m afraid of his wishy washy stance on troop withdrawal, then stating that we need more troops to make that happen, and elsewhere in the world. I cringed when I heard him say we need to exert our presence against Russia – because he had a slight pause that told me it was hard for him to say it. He’s not going to follow through on any of these things, he wants to “make friends” with all of the world aggressors and hope that they play nicely. And he hopes that the good faith we show will translate into a rise in our economic status within the world market place and an improvement on the dollar. I’ve got news for him, and anybody else that cares to listen: this is a go-out-and-get-it-yourself world, especially when it comes to money…even more than as it pertains to food and clean water. You have to be a shark in these waters. And showing “good faith” just isn’t going to get it done; neither is the redistribution of wealth. What kind of an impact will it have if you shut down small businesses by taking away from their bottom line to give to another level of income, if that forces the small businesses out of business? What impact is it going to have if you put a noose around the neck of larger businesses for the same sake, and they have to start cutting jobs left and right?

I need some substance out of this Obama-Biden ticket before I can completely right them off…but one thing is for sure, I cannot align with them based on the morals I carry. Sorry for the rant, it’s been a while since I’ve jumped out of the sports arena and into politics…

"So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know... "

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 28, 2008 10:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Walter

I agreed with the last half of your thought, but I could never vote for a man that has voted against the life of a unborn child. Or who counts among his peers an unrepentant terrorist, and has a bigot for a spiritual advisor. “Change we can believe in” has been the biggest “bumper sticker” slogan in over 20 years. What does he want to change, and what does he want to change it to?

I have 5 major agendas that I use to make a decision on a candidate.

1) National Security: In the last 16 years the military has been slashed to the point that we have barely been able to fight a 2 front war, and by the standards that our grandfathers fought under in WWII these are small. I want a President who’s 1st mission is to rebuild and strengthen our military to the point, that a moments notice we can send troops to any fight in the world. This is how Reagan brought the Soviet Union to its knees in the late 80’s

2) Energy Policy: There is enough oil, natural gas, and coal to keep this country powered and on the move well in to the next century, but for more than 30 years, one party has block our ability to put it to good use. I will only support a candidate that
    a) would fight to use the resource available to us on our own soil
    b) rebuild the energy infrastructure in theis country to include new refineries and the use of nuclear power as a source for
         electrical production
     c) has a SENSIBLE plan to bring alternative energy to the market

3) Life Policy: I HAVE NOT AND WILL NEVER support, endorse, or vote for a candidate that believes that a child is due the rights ond freedoms of this country, until it draws its first breath outside the womb.

4) Tax policy: The constitution require the government to spend or allocat money for one purpose only, and that is for the raising an army and navy for the defense of this great nation. In that regard it irks me to know end when a politician tell me that I have to give up my hard earned money to the government so that it can provide for lazy and worthless individual that would rather live off the government dole than support himself. Having said all that I look for a candidate that believes in and supports reducing the tax rates on every individual in theis country. As an aside to that, never buy the notion that your taxes can lowered , if only we taxed the rich and corporations more. For one, I never was hired for a job by a poor person, and corporations don’t pay taxes, that simply raise their pass the cost on to us, the consumer.

5) Immigration policy: This tends to be the 3rd rail of politics, but I believe that we have ot secure our borders. I support a guest worker program, but only if it is tied in with welfare reform, where recipients are offered a job before it is allowed to be filled by a guest worker.

by awillis111 on Aug 28, 2008 1:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So,

increase spending on defense, and lower taxes. Makes you a perfect Borrow and Spend Republican.

"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky

by DJCahill on Aug 28, 2008 1:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If that's how you want to categorize me, then yes

I prefer to think of myself as a Rugged Individualist. If we reduced the money that is spent on goverment entitlements by half we could completely rebuild our military to the level of the 1980’s, even without a reduction in taxes.
What I want is less government involvement my day to day life.

by awillis111 on Aug 28, 2008 2:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sure you do want to think of yourself as a Rugged individualist.

However, I’m gonna think of you as yet another practicioner of voodoo economics, just like it was in the ’80s, and the only way it works is by borrowing mountains of money, like Reagan, Bush, and Bush did.

SS, Medicare, Defense, interest on the debt and the global war on terror account for 72% of the budget in ‘07. You want to significantly raise the 16% of the budget that’s defense, you aren’t going to be able to cut those other ones, and you want to decrease revenue.

The only way it works if you want to borrow trillions of dollars, which is how we got to the point where interest on the debt is almost 10% of the budget and growing.

Republicans may think of themselves as rugged individualists, but they are more like the spoiled wives of rich men, running up insane charges on their sugardaddy’s credit card.

"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky

by DJCahill on Aug 28, 2008 2:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's

<blockquotIf we reduced the money that is spent on goverment entitlements by half we could completely rebuild our military to the level of the 1980’s,even without a reduction in taxes>

I know it hurts for you libs/socialist to admit this, but raising the the tax doesnot = increased revenue. When you take less from people they spend more, which increases revenue, and profits, for businesses, which generates more actual dollars going into the treasury. Why do you think the Pelosi/Ried congress has passed one stimulus package, and has called for a second. Because more money in the private sector = more revenue to the treasury. Where is the voodoo in that??

And by individualist, I mean that I do want or need the government to nursemaid to me, or tell how to raise my children. If you want my honest opinion, welfare is singularly to blame for the complete destruction of the black family in this country.

by awillis111 on Aug 28, 2008 4:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nope

There might be an argument for the Laffer Curve when the top marginal rate is 90, but when its 35, its a complete pipe dream.

Only folks living in a fantasy land believe that lowering the tax rate from 35% will actually decrease the deficit.

I know it hurts you conservatives/fascists to admit it, but the tax cuts of the 80s and ’00s led to massive deficits.

"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky

by DJCahill on Aug 28, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why don't you just admit that you, and your liberal commrades

Won’t be happy until the state owns everything, and are all dependant up on it

by awillis111 on Aug 28, 2008 6:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cahill...

isn’t a liberal, he’s just a curmudgeon.

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Aug 28, 2008 6:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why don't you admit that you, and your fascists jackbooted thugs

won’t be happy until you are at war with everyone, the government is phone tapping everyone, we are torturing folks we don’t like and we have concentration camps that exist outside the rule of law like Guantanamo everywhere.

"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky

by DJCahill on Aug 28, 2008 6:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Okay I admit it...

Should I make reservation for Gitmo now…1st class or business

by awillis111 on Aug 28, 2008 7:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Correction

Should I make your reservation for Gitmo now….1st class, business, or economy?

by awillis111 on Aug 28, 2008 7:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh snappity snap snap snap

So, so, SO much funnier than the first zing, which was supadupazingy, by the way.

"Should I make YOUR reservation for GITMO now. Ohohohohoho.

Like, as opposed to MY reservation…Oh that’s too funny.

Mucho better-o, awillis.

Keep these whip smart bon mots a’comin, you slicerandadicer, you.

Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.

by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2008 8:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I love it...

when the ignorant neo-cons lump liberals with socialists.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 28, 2008 9:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Reagan

Wasn’t it great when he single-handedly brought the Russians to their knees? What a guy!

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Aug 28, 2008 3:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Free Market vs. Government

Forgive me if I am misrepresenting your position. From what I can tell, you want the government out of the economy and you want the free market to set up systems that allow individuals to succeed or fail.

In general I agree that letting the free market dictate spending, since it tends to create a more efficient system. However, there are just some things the free market won’t create without government help. For instance, the free market won’t build or maintain our bridges or roads now will it help people after natural disasters.

In regards to taxes, it really comes down to disposable income. The tax structure should be setup so that everyone has disposable income. Disposable income exponentially generates more business as the first person buys something giving the seller more disposable income which he then passes on and so on. Right now, the middle class is shrinking and less and less people have disposable income pulling down the economy.

The best way to start up the economy is to either increase government spending (like on infrastructure) or cut taxes. Obama has promoted a combination of both. Lower taxes on the middle class to create more disposable income, then raise taxes on the rich to the Clinton levels (you know when the economy was booming) and use the money to fund government spending.

McCain is promoting the same economic structure as Bush which has resulted in the current state of the economy. If the economy is you’re most important issue (like mine) then Obama is clearly you’re candidate.

Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!

by DerekSTheRed on Aug 28, 2008 6:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think the main problem

is that McCain changed to fit with the Republicans and isn’t running the campaign as he truly is. I don’t think Jon has a problem with him since he’s had him on the show something like once a year at least. I do think its starting to get a bit annoying how much he is pulling for Obama though.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg1 on Aug 28, 2008 9:39 AM CDT   0 recs

As he truly is

He truly is a Republican, though. That’s why that “he voted with Bush 95% of the time” thing sticks.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Aug 28, 2008 10:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

That’s an incredibly misleading statement. What is that based on? Bills signed? If that’s the case, then a large majority of Congress “votes with Bush.”

by brettgardner on Aug 28, 2008 10:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i was wondering

if anyone was gonna catch that one..

by corbsclinton on Aug 28, 2008 10:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I hear

that McCain is like 70% a communist. Probably brainwashed as a POW to be the Manchurian Candidate.

"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky

by DJCahill on Aug 28, 2008 10:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

per Putin he’s the reason that Russia had to invade Georgia. I think that qualifies as 70%.

he’s still hitting better than Saltalasuckia—while playing vastly superior defense...Athos

by Escher on Aug 28, 2008 10:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Whatever

I’m not one who likes to use pat statements like that, but I find the belief that McCain is a “maverick” to be ridiculous. He’s no more a maverick than Biden is.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Aug 28, 2008 10:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Respectfully disagree

Insofar as McCain is more pragmatic on taxes.

by brettgardner on Aug 28, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

True

to an extent, but hardly enough to justify the conveniently outsider-sounding maverick label. Democrats are more pragmatic on taxes, too, but they don’t get called mavericks.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Aug 28, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

That’s part of their platform, generally.

by brettgardner on Aug 28, 2008 10:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs