OT: McCain-Palin

All major news sources are now reporting that McCain has picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. Interesting choice, and I like it. She is probably more of a 'maverick' than McCain, so fits the outsider image that every politician craves.
I do find it interesting, though, that a campaign that is trying to paint Obama as too young and inexperienced would pick someone even younger and less experienced in foreign policy for the VP. Each campaign seems to have gone the shoring up a weakness route, with Obama choosing the older, more experienced Washington lifer, and McCain choosing a young woman (hi there, Hilary supporters!).
I don't know a whole lot about Palin so I'll be looking forward to her speech next week. Call me wierd, but I kind of like the conventions and the major speeches they feature. I thought the Dems put on a pretty good show this week and I'm looking forward to seeing how the GOP counters...
Keep it civil, folks.
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just saw the breaking news on tv, interesting indeed. they labeled her pretty much as an ultra conservative.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Aug 29, 2008 9:46 AM CDT 0 recs
Which channel labeled her that way?
I don’t doubt it, since he might be using her to further placate the religious right, but the source is relevant.
5 kids, she doesn’t need foreign policy experience
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by t ball on
Aug 29, 2008 9:51 AM CDT
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Foxnews.com listed her as fiscal conserative
Although history has taught us that those that were fiscal in the past don’t stay that way.
Myself I would have thought it would be Huckabee to shore the Religious right and southern voters but if Palin can do the same and bring some Hillary voters then it’s a great choice. Just wonder how she’ll fare against Biden.
by Taylor on
Aug 29, 2008 9:55 AM CDT
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she'll rip him a new one.
"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
by Longhorn on
Aug 29, 2008 9:55 AM CDT
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you wish
As soon as it turns to foreign policy, Biden will smash her on live tv.
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by DerekSTheRed on
Aug 29, 2008 10:07 AM CDT
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and then she'll get all of the sympathy votes
and make Biden come across as an asshole.
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by willamos2 on
Aug 29, 2008 10:10 AM CDT
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There's no crying in politics!!!!
but maybe you’re right. It worked for Hillary after all.
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by DerekSTheRed on
Aug 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT
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Hell, it worked for Bush in 2000.
Gore ripped his ass off in their first debate and the media buzz after the event was all about Gore being a bully and that W won because you really couldn’t expect a dumbass to look any better than he looked that night. I’m still amazed by that to this day.
by Athos on
Aug 29, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
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Was that
the “biased media”? I thought they were all part of a left wing cabal?
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
"I just hope enough dumb oversexed over self-esteemed American public educated female liberals (yeah, you know the type) vote for a woman because she has a vagina, to swing some things."- Sharky.
by DJCahill on
Aug 29, 2008 2:17 PM CDT
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i think the difference was that
Gore was condescending throughout the debate. Several times, he audibly sighed and rolled his eyes while Bush was speaking.
While he did win the debate, he came across looking like at an asshole based on his own actions moreso than how he made Bush look.
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by willamos2 on
Aug 29, 2008 2:20 PM CDT
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I agree.
The media focussed more on the appearance of the candidates rather than the substance of their arguments. But even coming into the debate they were all about low expectations for Bush.
In retrospect, maybe they should have focussed a little more on the substance of the debate and a little less on the then golden child’s ability to look affable while speaking like a dumb shit.
by Athos on
Aug 29, 2008 2:38 PM CDT
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predictably wrong again
"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
by Longhorn on
Aug 29, 2008 2:39 PM CDT
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Predictably long on glib bullshit ...
and short on substance.
Were you W’s debate coach or something?
by Athos on
Aug 29, 2008 2:43 PM CDT
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nbc
said shes very conservative and has something like an 80% approval rating in alaska
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Aug 29, 2008 9:56 AM CDT
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5 kids
10 total people in Alaska. So 2 of the four people who aren’t in her family approve of her.
by robert_d_wilfong on
Aug 29, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
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Pro life
and shoring up the conservative right. Interesting that regardless of the outcome, we will have either a black president or female VP.
by Parman on
Aug 29, 2008 10:01 AM CDT
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PS
I doubt Hillary supporters will jump on the Palin bandwagon because of her pro-life stance.
by Parman on
Aug 29, 2008 10:03 AM CDT
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PS
i doubt all HRC supporters only supported her because of her abortion stance
also i bet a few would have voted for her simply because she was a woman (gasp!)
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by knockoutking on
Aug 29, 2008 12:17 PM CDT
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And gasp gasp gasp!
Some might even have supported her because they just plain thought she was the best candidate.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on
Aug 29, 2008 12:25 PM CDT
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God help us.
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Aug 29, 2008 9:48 AM CDT 0 recs
I'd do her
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 29, 2008 9:50 AM CDT 0 recs
On that note
Was that Biden’s daughter to his left last night? Not too shabby….
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on
Aug 29, 2008 9:51 AM CDT
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McCain
Has some reaonably hot daughters, or at least one if I recall.
by Sharky on
Aug 29, 2008 11:06 AM CDT
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Wouldn't they be like 50 years old?
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by Wes Cox on
Aug 29, 2008 11:08 AM CDT
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Zing!
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by hinduplaya on
Aug 29, 2008 2:46 PM CDT
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Heh
as long as you didn’t discuss politics before or after?
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by t ball on
Aug 29, 2008 10:16 AM CDT
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I suppose that's smart
People like Sacha Millstone (Dem. delegate from Boulder who refused to vote for Obama because she was too big of a Hillary supporter) now have another opportunity to vote with their vaginas. Fantastic.
And now if McCain wins I’ll have another reason to burn Sacha Millstone’s house down.
by naropean on Aug 29, 2008 9:52 AM CDT 0 recs
Experience
Remember, Palin is running as the VP behind McCain’s experience. Obama shares Palin’s experience (lack thereof), but is running for the #1 spot. It will be tough for Obama’s camp to criticize her lack of experience. A little to akin to the pot calling the kettle black African American…
by Jack Nicholson 1974 on Aug 29, 2008 9:55 AM CDT 0 recs
likewise
McCain cannot now complain about Obama’s lack of experience.
by jcAustin on
Aug 29, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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Not true
Palin is not at the top of the ticket.
Also, she has been a mayor and is currently governor. This counts as experience, you know, actually running something. She’s not just listening to speaches and voting along party lines all day.
by Jack Nicholson 1974 on
Aug 29, 2008 10:37 AM CDT
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Considering
the Crypt-Keeper’s likely to kick the bucket at any time, electing anyone with Palin’s lack of experience would be reckless.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on
Aug 29, 2008 10:38 AM CDT
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wacko liberal talk...
is back.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Aug 29, 2008 10:41 AM CDT
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wacko fascist talk...
is back.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on
Aug 29, 2008 10:42 AM CDT
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Thank you for proving my point...
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Aug 29, 2008 11:05 AM CDT
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lol
"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
by Longhorn on
Aug 29, 2008 11:12 AM CDT
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dumb.
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by ivysafety39 on
Aug 29, 2008 11:35 AM CDT
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Intelligent political dialogue...
…still in hiding.
by GhettoBear04 on
Aug 29, 2008 11:52 AM CDT
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missing
believed to be hanging out with Nessie and Santa Claus
by bushe on
Aug 29, 2008 12:50 PM CDT
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So...
if voting for anyone lacking experience is reckless, then you cannot vote Obama either. So I guess it is Libertarian time!
Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!
by pbpsean on
Aug 29, 2008 12:20 PM CDT
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How so?
McCain has tons more experience than Obama. The fact that his VP choice has very little is pretty immaterial. Meanwhile, on the flip side, the leader of the Democratic ticket is the one with no experience and had to pick a VP to add gravitas to the ticket. Doesn’t that sound a lot like Bush/Cheney?
by bking on
Aug 29, 2008 10:37 AM CDT
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he has to believe that Palin has the experience
to be a good president, so if he says Obama doesn’t he looks like a hypocrite.
by jcAustin on
Aug 29, 2008 10:38 AM CDT
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Like Bush/Cheney
Well, Biden at least hasn’t shot anyone yet.
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Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on
Aug 29, 2008 10:46 AM CDT
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nor had cheney in 00
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by knockoutking on
Aug 29, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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That we know of...
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by t ball on
Aug 29, 2008 12:25 PM CDT
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I never thought he could
Bush had no experience and he’s struggled with foreign and domestic policy, what was McCain going to say “Learn from the past eight years what inexperience will lead to?”
by Taylor on
Aug 29, 2008 10:44 AM CDT
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Wow
An inspired choice. I don’t like Obama or McCain, but McCain made a much better VP selection. At least she isn’t another old, washed-up retread like Biden.
I still won’t vote for either of them though.
--Brian
by BCanfield on Aug 29, 2008 9:55 AM CDT 0 recs
you're so cool!
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Aug 29, 2008 6:23 PM CDT
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Anybody else wish it was Michael Palin instead??
Now THAT would liven up the campaign.
by bking on Aug 29, 2008 9:56 AM CDT 0 recs
+1 Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition

Call 1-800-DOCTORB. The B is for bargain!
by Panorama on
Aug 29, 2008 9:59 AM CDT
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McCain dropped the ball on this one, picked the wrong Palin
Michael’s down with the GOP.

by naropean on
Aug 29, 2008 9:59 AM CDT
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as far as VP's go...
i guess.
i can’t help but thinking how used up that “piece” is after dropping five kids.
nothing screams “piece” like a has-been miss alaska runner up from 24 years ago. i keep thinking of that song, 1985.
by sam in so cal on
Aug 29, 2008 11:15 AM CDT
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funny
It’s like the complete inverse of Obama’s Biden pick. The young, less-experienced guy chooses the experienced insider, and the old, Washington guy chooses the young fresh face without much experience.
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by trza on Aug 29, 2008 10:09 AM CDT 0 recs
i really like the selection
1. It placates the true conservative base.
2. It’s someone with ZERO ties to the Bush administration.
3. It gives McCain a buzz that he hasn’t really had.
4. It steals some of the thunder away from Obama’s speech.
5. It carves into some of the Hillary supporters that wanted a woman and are indifferent on abortion.
6. It’s not some old, white guy where the opposition could continue to harp on it.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:14 AM CDT 0 recs
I think its a smart move
when all the “name” Republicans have huge negatives, you might as well get a lesser known one.
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by DJCahill on
Aug 29, 2008 10:21 AM CDT
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Yeah
Like with all politicians, the ones you don’t know anything about seem much less noxious.
--Brian
by BCanfield on
Aug 29, 2008 11:00 AM CDT
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I'm not sure
That there’s a gigantic bloc of women who are indifferent on abortion.
by brettgardner on
Aug 29, 2008 10:21 AM CDT
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i don't know about "gigantic"
but my wife is one of them. She leans pro-choice, but she’s voted Republican mostly.
I mean…I’m for gay rights, but it’s not an issue that is THAT important to me personally to overcome other issues.
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by willamos2 on
Aug 29, 2008 10:23 AM CDT
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It's a bit different
I think you’d have to admit. Really not that close, actually.
by brettgardner on
Aug 29, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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i don't know why it should be the case
they both affect a similar minority % in our country.
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by willamos2 on
Aug 29, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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Huh?
One affects every woman, whether she ever has an abortion or not, and one affects, what, 10% directly, and anybody else indirectly.
by brettgardner on
Aug 29, 2008 10:32 AM CDT
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i don't see how abortion affects every woman
my wife’s never had an abortion, and she wasn’t aborted.
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by willamos2 on
Aug 29, 2008 10:34 AM CDT
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Gah.
It’s a restriction on liberty. Whether or not she ever has an abortion, the option is available to her. Nobody will enter into a homosexual marriage who isn’t homosexual. Why are you arguing something so obvious?
by brettgardner on
Aug 29, 2008 10:36 AM CDT
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people are free to do a lot of things they have no interest in doing
acting like they would fight for that right seems short-sighted.
There are plenty of women out there that would never vote for a pro-life candidate…I get that. I just feel there is also women out there that are probably pro-choice when push comes to shove that have other issues that they prioritize more heavily.
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by willamos2 on
Aug 29, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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Uhh
Huh? I wasn’t talking about “fighting”. I was talking about your horrible analogy.
by brettgardner on
Aug 29, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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for example...
i have the RIGHT to own a gun. I don’t and have no interest in one. I don’t base my voting habits on gun control.
Some issues just don’t mean much to some people.
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by willamos2 on
Aug 29, 2008 10:44 AM CDT
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You're not getting it.
You’re talking about “caring” and I’m talking about “affecting”.
by brettgardner on
Aug 29, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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gun control
AFFECTS every American’s liberty to own a gun. However, not many people CARE enough.
I think you’re the one who’s not getting it.
Acting like zero women who are pro-choice would vote for a woman who is pro-life is incredibly short-sighted.
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by willamos2 on
Aug 29, 2008 10:46 AM CDT
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When
Did I act like that? Seriously, what are you talking about?
by brettgardner on
Aug 29, 2008 10:47 AM CDT
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here
I’m not sure
That there’s a gigantic bloc of women who are indifferent on abortion.
While I agreed that it was not a “gigantic” bloc. Indifference isn’t just that they are neither pro-life or pro-choice, but that they are indifferent enough to vote across typical party lines.
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by willamos2 on
Aug 29, 2008 10:49 AM CDT
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Right...
And what in that leads you to believe I had any opinion on the matter? You really need to cut back on the assumptions. You can care about something and not let it affect your vote. I don’t get what point you’re trying to make.
by brettgardner on
Aug 29, 2008 10:51 AM CDT
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i'll boil it down to 2 sentences and leave it at that:
1. there will be some pro-choice women who vote Republican (a small %).
2. If people are strictly basing their voting habits on one issue as specific as abortion, that is sad in my opinion.
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by willamos2 on
Aug 29, 2008 10:53 AM CDT
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re: " people are strictly basing their voting habits on one issue as specific as abortion, that is sad in my opinion."
Couldn’t agree more.
Unfortunately, there are millions and millions of them out there.
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on
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