OT: McCain-Palin
by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 9:43 AM CDT
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All major news sources are now reporting that McCain has picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. Interesting choice, and I like it. She is probably more of a 'maverick' than McCain, so fits the outsider image that every politician craves.
I do find it interesting, though, that a campaign that is trying to paint Obama as too young and inexperienced would pick someone even younger and less experienced in foreign policy for the VP. Each campaign seems to have gone the shoring up a weakness route, with Obama choosing the older, more experienced Washington lifer, and McCain choosing a young woman (hi there, Hilary supporters!).
I don't know a whole lot about Palin so I'll be looking forward to her speech next week. Call me wierd, but I kind of like the conventions and the major speeches they feature. I thought the Dems put on a pretty good show this week and I'm looking forward to seeing how the GOP counters...
Keep it civil, folks.
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just saw the breaking news on tv, interesting indeed. they labeled her pretty much as an ultra conservative.
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by rentz on Aug 29, 2008 9:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Which channel labeled her that way?
I don’t doubt it, since he might be using her to further placate the religious right, but the source is relevant.
5 kids, she doesn’t need foreign policy experience
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by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Foxnews.com listed her as fiscal conserative
Although history has taught us that those that were fiscal in the past don’t stay that way.
Myself I would have thought it would be Huckabee to shore the Religious right and southern voters but if Palin can do the same and bring some Hillary voters then it’s a great choice. Just wonder how she’ll fare against Biden.
by Taylor on Aug 29, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
she'll rip him a new one.
"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
by Longhorn on Aug 29, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you wish
As soon as it turns to foreign policy, Biden will smash her on live tv.
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by DerekSTheRed on Aug 29, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and then she'll get all of the sympathy votes
and make Biden come across as an asshole.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no crying in politics!!!!
but maybe you’re right. It worked for Hillary after all.
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by DerekSTheRed on Aug 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, it worked for Bush in 2000.
Gore ripped his ass off in their first debate and the media buzz after the event was all about Gore being a bully and that W won because you really couldn’t expect a dumbass to look any better than he looked that night. I’m still amazed by that to this day.
by Athos on Aug 29, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was that
the “biased media”? I thought they were all part of a left wing cabal?
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by DJCahill on Aug 29, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the difference was that
Gore was condescending throughout the debate. Several times, he audibly sighed and rolled his eyes while Bush was speaking.
While he did win the debate, he came across looking like at an asshole based on his own actions moreso than how he made Bush look.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
The media focussed more on the appearance of the candidates rather than the substance of their arguments. But even coming into the debate they were all about low expectations for Bush.
In retrospect, maybe they should have focussed a little more on the substance of the debate and a little less on the then golden child’s ability to look affable while speaking like a dumb shit.
by Athos on Aug 29, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
predictably wrong again
"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
by Longhorn on Aug 29, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Predictably long on glib bullshit ...
and short on substance.
Were you W’s debate coach or something?
by Athos on Aug 29, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nbc
said shes very conservative and has something like an 80% approval rating in alaska
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by rentz on Aug 29, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 kids
10 total people in Alaska. So 2 of the four people who aren’t in her family approve of her.
by robert_d_wilfong on Aug 29, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pro life
and shoring up the conservative right. Interesting that regardless of the outcome, we will have either a black president or female VP.
by Parman on Aug 29, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PS
I doubt Hillary supporters will jump on the Palin bandwagon because of her pro-life stance.
by Parman on Aug 29, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PS
i doubt all HRC supporters only supported her because of her abortion stance
also i bet a few would have voted for her simply because she was a woman (gasp!)
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by knockoutking on Aug 29, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And gasp gasp gasp!
Some might even have supported her because they just plain thought she was the best candidate.
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by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God help us.
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Aug 29, 2008 9:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd do her
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 29, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On that note
Was that Biden’s daughter to his left last night? Not too shabby….
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Aug 29, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McCain
Has some reaonably hot daughters, or at least one if I recall.
by Sharky on Aug 29, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't they be like 50 years old?
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by Wes Cox on Aug 29, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zing!
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by hinduplaya on Aug 29, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose that's smart
People like Sacha Millstone (Dem. delegate from Boulder who refused to vote for Obama because she was too big of a Hillary supporter) now have another opportunity to vote with their vaginas. Fantastic.
And now if McCain wins I’ll have another reason to burn Sacha Millstone’s house down.
by naropean on Aug 29, 2008 9:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Experience
Remember, Palin is running as the VP behind McCain’s experience. Obama shares Palin’s experience (lack thereof), but is running for the #1 spot. It will be tough for Obama’s camp to criticize her lack of experience. A little to akin to the pot calling the kettle black African American…
by Jack Nicholson 1974 on Aug 29, 2008 9:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
likewise
McCain cannot now complain about Obama’s lack of experience.
by jcAustin on Aug 29, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not true
Palin is not at the top of the ticket.
Also, she has been a mayor and is currently governor. This counts as experience, you know, actually running something. She’s not just listening to speaches and voting along party lines all day.
by Jack Nicholson 1974 on Aug 29, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering
the Crypt-Keeper’s likely to kick the bucket at any time, electing anyone with Palin’s lack of experience would be reckless.
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by DJCahill on Aug 29, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wacko liberal talk...
is back.
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by Agreen07 on Aug 29, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wacko fascist talk...
is back.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 29, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for proving my point...
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by Agreen07 on Aug 29, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dumb.
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by ivysafety39 on Aug 29, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Intelligent political dialogue...
…still in hiding.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 29, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How so?
McCain has tons more experience than Obama. The fact that his VP choice has very little is pretty immaterial. Meanwhile, on the flip side, the leader of the Democratic ticket is the one with no experience and had to pick a VP to add gravitas to the ticket. Doesn’t that sound a lot like Bush/Cheney?
by bking on Aug 29, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has to believe that Palin has the experience
to be a good president, so if he says Obama doesn’t he looks like a hypocrite.
by jcAustin on Aug 29, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Bush/Cheney
Well, Biden at least hasn’t shot anyone yet.
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by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nor had cheney in 00
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by knockoutking on Aug 29, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That we know of...
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by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never thought he could
Bush had no experience and he’s struggled with foreign and domestic policy, what was McCain going to say “Learn from the past eight years what inexperience will lead to?”
by Taylor on Aug 29, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
An inspired choice. I don’t like Obama or McCain, but McCain made a much better VP selection. At least she isn’t another old, washed-up retread like Biden.
I still won’t vote for either of them though.
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by BCanfield on Aug 29, 2008 9:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you're so cool!
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Aug 29, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody else wish it was Michael Palin instead??
Now THAT would liven up the campaign.
by bking on Aug 29, 2008 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1 Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition
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by Panorama on Aug 29, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McCain dropped the ball on this one, picked the wrong Palin
Michael’s down with the GOP.
by naropean on Aug 29, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as far as VP's go...
i guess.
i can’t help but thinking how used up that “piece” is after dropping five kids.
nothing screams “piece” like a has-been miss alaska runner up from 24 years ago. i keep thinking of that song, 1985.
by sam in so cal on Aug 29, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny
It’s like the complete inverse of Obama’s Biden pick. The young, less-experienced guy chooses the experienced insider, and the old, Washington guy chooses the young fresh face without much experience.
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by trza on Aug 29, 2008 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i really like the selection
1. It placates the true conservative base.
2. It’s someone with ZERO ties to the Bush administration.
3. It gives McCain a buzz that he hasn’t really had.
4. It steals some of the thunder away from Obama’s speech.
5. It carves into some of the Hillary supporters that wanted a woman and are indifferent on abortion.
6. It’s not some old, white guy where the opposition could continue to harp on it.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think its a smart move
when all the “name” Republicans have huge negatives, you might as well get a lesser known one.
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by DJCahill on Aug 29, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
That there’s a gigantic bloc of women who are indifferent on abortion.
by brettgardner on Aug 29, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't know about "gigantic"
but my wife is one of them. She leans pro-choice, but she’s voted Republican mostly.
I mean…I’m for gay rights, but it’s not an issue that is THAT important to me personally to overcome other issues.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a bit different
I think you’d have to admit. Really not that close, actually.
by brettgardner on Aug 29, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't know why it should be the case
they both affect a similar minority % in our country.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
One affects every woman, whether she ever has an abortion or not, and one affects, what, 10% directly, and anybody else indirectly.
by brettgardner on Aug 29, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't see how abortion affects every woman
my wife’s never had an abortion, and she wasn’t aborted.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gah.
It’s a restriction on liberty. Whether or not she ever has an abortion, the option is available to her. Nobody will enter into a homosexual marriage who isn’t homosexual. Why are you arguing something so obvious?
by brettgardner on Aug 29, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
people are free to do a lot of things they have no interest in doing
acting like they would fight for that right seems short-sighted.
There are plenty of women out there that would never vote for a pro-life candidate…I get that. I just feel there is also women out there that are probably pro-choice when push comes to shove that have other issues that they prioritize more heavily.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh
Huh? I wasn’t talking about “fighting”. I was talking about your horrible analogy.
by brettgardner on Aug 29, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for example...
i have the RIGHT to own a gun. I don’t and have no interest in one. I don’t base my voting habits on gun control.
Some issues just don’t mean much to some people.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're not getting it.
You’re talking about “caring” and I’m talking about “affecting”.
by brettgardner on Aug 29, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gun control
AFFECTS every American’s liberty to own a gun. However, not many people CARE enough.
I think you’re the one who’s not getting it.
Acting like zero women who are pro-choice would vote for a woman who is pro-life is incredibly short-sighted.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When
Did I act like that? Seriously, what are you talking about?
by brettgardner on Aug 29, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here
I’m not sure
That there’s a gigantic bloc of women who are indifferent on abortion.
While I agreed that it was not a “gigantic” bloc. Indifference isn’t just that they are neither pro-life or pro-choice, but that they are indifferent enough to vote across typical party lines.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right...
And what in that leads you to believe I had any opinion on the matter? You really need to cut back on the assumptions. You can care about something and not let it affect your vote. I don’t get what point you’re trying to make.
by brettgardner on Aug 29, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll boil it down to 2 sentences and leave it at that:
1. there will be some pro-choice women who vote Republican (a small %).
2. If people are strictly basing their voting habits on one issue as specific as abortion, that is sad in my opinion.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: " people are strictly basing their voting habits on one issue as specific as abortion, that is sad in my opinion."
Couldn’t agree more.
Unfortunately, there are millions and millions of them out there.
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 29, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
I still don’t get why you’re preaching your beliefs. I never questioned them, just you analogy. Why is that hard to understand?
by brettgardner on Aug 29, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
since the analogy wasn't really "the point"
i don’t find it worth discussing much more.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't blame you.
You spend a lot of time arguing a point not in contention. I’d feel stupid and want to move on, too.
by brettgardner on Aug 29, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you serious?
you just described yourself exactly.
You are always arguing unimportant BS to the point where you are speaking in semantics.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you mean
…because i’m better than you…?
by brettgardner on Aug 29, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of the women I knew who were pro-choice
hated the thought that men were creating laws telling them what to do with their bodies.
by Taylor on Aug 29, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would it be more well-received if it was coming from a woman?
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
It really wouldn’t. In fact, the women I know who are pro-choice (even those like myself who would likely never have an abortion themselves) would in fact hate a woman telling us what we can/can’t do with our bodies moreso than a man.
by Melmart1 on Aug 29, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i agree that it would make no difference
i just thought it was odd in Taylor’s comment…“men”.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think ...
… that the word ‘men’ was chosen because in politics more often than not, it is a man you are talking about on the subject of abortion. Female politicians usually don’t spew about it one way or the other like some of the men do. At least, not in my observations.
by Melmart1 on Aug 29, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not my opinion
Just mentioning what those that were pro-choice used for their justification. Myself, I’m on the fence leaning towards pro-life (20 years ago I was 100% pro-choice) and can arguments made by both sides.
by Taylor on Aug 29, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i understood
i didn’t interpret it as your own argument.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I love the “telling us what we can/can’t do with our bodies” defense.
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by thedirkatron on Aug 29, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Men can't possibly understand
What if the government told you that you HAVE to give one of your kidneys to your neighbor because you have two healthy ones and he does not?
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by baseballismyboyfriend on Aug 29, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not even remotely analogous
Like, really, it’s not.
I actually can’t believe how far that is away from being analogous.
It’s blowing my mind.
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by thedirkatron on Aug 29, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I happen to think it is.
It’s still the government making decisions about an individual’s body. I just think if our nation reverts to a time when abortion was illegal, it’s going to be very very ugly.
Also, if the government starts regulating this, what’s to stop them from telling people how MANY children they can have and what age is appropriate to have them?
-- Micah
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by baseballismyboyfriend on Aug 29, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're really equating
the government’s right to force me to have life-threatening surgery so they can come into my body and take my kidney to whether or not the government sanctions you killing the nascent baby you knowingly and willingly created of your own free will?
Come on, you know that’s not analogous.
If you actually want to engage in a debate about abortion, that’s fine. But don’t start it off with that weak ass shit.
And the government makes decisions about what you can and can not do with your body all the time. Ever tried to sell an organ? Are you outraged you can’t?
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by thedirkatron on Aug 29, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You won't change my mind
And I won’t change yours, so what’s the point?
I just don’t think, as a man, you can understand what it means to have your body legislated.
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by baseballismyboyfriend on Aug 29, 2008 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
Everybody’s body is legislated. I don’t have the right to move my body in a way that damages another.
by brettgardner on Aug 30, 2008 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying selling a lung on Ebay
I wonder if BBIMBF would take up your cause once you got arrested.
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by thedirkatron on Aug 30, 2008 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do understand
I mean, I guess you’re right that I can never truly understand what it’s like to be a woman, but I have given this issue a ton of thought and really listened to all sides before I came to my conclusion.
And, fwiw, you don’t know how I feel about abortion. I don’t think I’ve ever said on this board.
I was never trying to change anyone’s mind. I mainly stay out of the political discussions on this board for exactly the reasons you mention. If I thought there was anything I could say that would change your mind about an issue this big, then I’d honestly think you were so weak minded as to not want to even bother changing it…. if that makes any sense.
I was simply saying that the whole “telling us what we can/can’t do with our bodies” argument is specious and stupid and ignorant. And then that your analogy was even worse. And I still do that feel that way. It’s a weak analogy. So in other words: I don’t necessarily disagree with or have personal views in contrast to your point, I just think your argument is specious and I think you should give it a long hard look.
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by thedirkatron on Aug 30, 2008 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude dont argue with women over their body, its not a classy move
and i like you a lot. dudes just dont get to do that.
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by Jayslick on Aug 30, 2008 3:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's silly.
People say “right to choose.” Where’s the man’s right to choose? A man can’t force an abortion, and can’t force a live birth. A man can offer to pay for an abortion, yet still be stuck with 18 years of child support payments.
You can’t talk about abortion as if it’s the woman’s decision in isolation (her body). There are a lot of other factors, and a lot of other people affected.
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by benmor78 on Aug 30, 2008 3:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats fine and i agree
but thats between you and your wife/girlfriend etc. its not something you just argue with your random female online.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 30, 2008 4:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see why not.
With rights come obligations.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 30, 2008 4:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and its not your place to judge or dictate those obligations
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 30, 2008 4:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure I am.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Aug 30, 2008 4:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ill give ya the 5:45am get out of jail card
that wasnt even the right tense of a sentence.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 30, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what would you say if some1 told you what to do with your dick?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 31, 2008 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends...
on how hot she is. =p
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by slc ranger on Aug 31, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People tell me that all the time
I’m not allowed to whip it out in public and press it up against a school bus window, I’m not allowed use it to have intercourse with little boys or to choke midgets, etc. etc. etc.
And if I knowingly and willingly put a baby in my dick (I’m white so it’d have to be a pretty small baby) then I’d expect there to be some rules to that too.
The whole “It’s my body you can’t tell me what I can’t do with it” argument is completely specious.
People’s bodies are legislated all the time and you know it.
Let me ask you this, are you okay with telling women that they can’t abort at 8 and 1/2 months? I’ve never seen anyone who’s down with abortion at 8 and 1/2 months. How is that not telling a woman what she can’t do with her body?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 31, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you can
choke midgets with it in Nevada so long as its consensual.
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by willamos2 on Aug 31, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel that way, too
but on the other hand if I make a decision about my body that kills someone else, a law against that is probably ok. It really depends on how early into the pregnancy you define life. Very few women think it’s ok to abort just before birth, obviously, but beyond that there is nothing approaching a consensus, again, obviously.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
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by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
zero ties to Bush
But his exact political philosophy
by jcAustin on Aug 29, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly, eh?
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by knockoutking on Aug 29, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will take a lot more than the Jr. Governor of the North Pole to steal Obama's thunder.
You are very nieve to think there are women who are indifferent on abortion. You must not know very much at all about women.
by 44FAN on Aug 29, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you must not know very much about the English language.
it’s “naive”… n-a-i-v-e… “naive”
by oc on Aug 29, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually he meant Nieves
as in that’s so “Melvin Nieves”.
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by thedirkatron on Aug 29, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
those were some extremely rare cards for their time...
…too bad this one is clearly not crisp around the edges.
by oc on Aug 30, 2008 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA HA HA
I knew there was a reason I liked you OC, old buddy.
Of course you collected cards.
Cause that’s what the awesome kids did.
I still have copies of the old Team Pinnacle cards where Juan Gonzalez (my fave player ever when I was young) was on one side and Barry Bonds on the other side.
FWIW, the other side of this card was David Hulse. How’s that for a blast from our mediocre freaking past?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 30, 2008 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't Frank Thomas in this series?
no, money down!
by oc on Aug 30, 2008 3:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm married to a woman
indifferent on abortion.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
….while most women may have a strong opinion on abortion, most are probably intelligent enough to realize that hiring a pro-choice vice is absolutely not going to effect their right to choice. It’s not like we’re going to be outlawing abortion anytime soon.
I’m as pro-life as it gets, but I fully realize that electing someone who shares my beliefs on that particular matter is not really going to accomplish a whole lot.
by jthig32 on Aug 29, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
vice
McCain and his hired vice are Pro-Choice. If McCain chooses the next Supreme Court justices, then abortion will be outlawed soon.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 29, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It annoys the hell out of me.....
that people act like abortion is an open issue. It’s not. It’s the ultimate red herring in politics.
by bdavison94 on Aug 29, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of
I agree that people vote on abortion and other issues to their own detriment. I was just countering his argument, “It’s not like we’re going to be outlawing abortion anytime soon.” In reality, we could be outlawing it soon.
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by DerekSTheRed on Aug 30, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Superb pick
Helps with pissed off women Hillary voters.
Helps with right wingers.
Very exciting pick.
54% of the electorate is women.
The much smarter McCain outmaneuvers Obama again..oh how I bet Obama wishes he could go back in time and pick a woman himself now..
by Sharky on Aug 29, 2008 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i thought you said you would hate this pick
because of “affirmative action”?
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, here it is
I think Pawlenty would be a great choice. Would help with Minnesota’s 10 EV’s, is a safe white male and not any of this Sarah Palin, Condi Rice (or fill in the politically correct minority here) affirmative action bullshit so many conservatives on message boards push.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't try to get consistency
out of the Sharkinator. Just enjoy the stream of consciousness bullshit.
He flip flops more than John Kerry or Mitt Romney.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 29, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
It’s true I’m not enamored with the pick being female, she seems more right wing than darn near all the candidates including Mitt Romney. And I can definitely support that.
I just hope enough dumb oversexed over self-esteemed American public educated female liberals (yeah, you know the type) vote for a woman because she has a vagina, to swing some things. If 54% of the electorate is women, if Palin can swing 2-4% of that, thats 1-2%. In this election thats big.
I found out Pawlenty is for cap and trade too, and I hate that shit. And Mitt is dogged by Mormonism, so yeah, maybe not ideal pick from MY narrow view, but probably the best available.
by Sharky on Aug 29, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Female liberals ...
… will not vote for Palin. For true female liberals (not the caricature of them that you make up in your silly little head), abortion is too big of an issue to excuse.
So why aren’t you enamored with the pick being female? Is it based on gender only? And if so, what was the name of the woman who snapped your little sharky fin so badly that you are letting it affect your political judgement?
by Melmart1 on Aug 29, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok you do understand that some people voted for hillary simply because she was a woman
some will vote for obama because hes black
some will vote for mccain because he is white
some will vote for palin because she is a woman
some will vote for biden because…he lives in deleware?
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by knockoutking on Aug 29, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I realize that ...
… but that is not what I was responding to. Sharky makes LIBERAL women out to be some cartoon character, hoping that they only care about whether the candidate is a woman or not. I simply set him straight. You are talking about the populace at large, I was pinpointing one group.
by Melmart1 on Aug 29, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's also kind of crappy
That she wont help with a specific state (besides Alaska which was already in the bag). But she probably more than makes up for it by helping in an overall way in many states.
Again, looking at the choices in retrospect, it’s hard to argue. Lieberman, Ridge etc would have ignited a war within the Republican party. Romney is great on TV and the issues, and had the most name recognition, but the Mormon thing is a problem. Pawlenty was too much of a “meh” no name.
by Sharky on Aug 29, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God I'm torn
whether to keep my sig what it is, or change it to
“I just hope enough dumb oversexed over self-esteemed American public educated female liberals (yeah, you know the type) vote for a woman because she has a vagina, to swing some things.”- Sharky.
So much gold, so little space.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 29, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make it a 2fer
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 29, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vote you keep the current
That shit is priceless.
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Aug 29, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2fer
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...
…i love that you denegrate the people you need to win the election. truly.
its like the you black conservative that cnn always flashes to after a speech. they did it twonites ago and my wife looks at me and says “doesn’t she know the republicans are only using her….”
I blame it not on Ron Washington, but on society. Society is to blame. And Ron Washington. ~Ken Tremendous on Ron Washington sac bunting in the 11th vs LAA
by ivysafety39 on Aug 29, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seeing as minorities have been voting Democrats for decades
and still are suffering in ghettos, crappy schools, and low (or no) paying jobs, I’d look at it the opposite way.
What have Democrats done for the minorities that elicit such unbridled dedication?
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they dont build wall and they dont brun crosses?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the first cross burners were Democrats
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
they were southern baptists.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 29, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in the Democrat party
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who walked out and became republicans
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whats so HORRIBLE about a wall?
and burn crosses? …really?
because there have never been any other groups that hate white people, only white people who hate other groups…
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by knockoutking on Aug 29, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't make either side right...
I blame it not on Ron Washington, but on society. Society is to blame. And Ron Washington. ~Ken Tremendous on Ron Washington sac bunting in the 11th vs LAA
by ivysafety39 on Aug 29, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly...
…i’ll never understand how criticizing a group i am a part of makes me not like that group… be it america, whites, educated, southern…. i can’t understand what seems to be a conservative standard of “if you’re not with us, you’re against us….”…
I blame it not on Ron Washington, but on society. Society is to blame. And Ron Washington. ~Ken Tremendous on Ron Washington sac bunting in the 11th vs LAA
by ivysafety39 on Aug 29, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hawaii vs alaska
loser gets kicked out of the union
(i’m surprised mccain could find an alaska republican not under indictment, impressive)
by tangiers on Aug 29, 2008 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how Palin helps with women.
I think McCain believes he’s got some of Hillary’s vote no matter what he does. Palin is a bone thrown to the right, but I have no feel for how the right might respond. To me, it seems more like a move to appease voters for then next few months than to bring in someone who can work as a partner, much like it would’ve seemed had Obama picked Clinton.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on Aug 29, 2008 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Palin may help with women
in general. But female Hillary supporters? I highly doubt this helps at all. if he was hoping to siphon a few Hillary voters with this pick, I think he made an error in judgement.
by Melmart1 on Aug 29, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard Geraldine Ferraro's comments this AM
She didn’t say it explicitly, but that is one woman voting for McCain-Palin.
If she’s of that opinion, I guarantee many others are as well.
by JBImaknee on Aug 29, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt there are "many"
There is an Obama office in my building. They’re tight lipped, but there’s always this one guy out in the hall eating a sandwich when I come home for lunch. I ask him questions now and then. Today I asked if they had any numbers on the Hillary camp. He wouldn’t get specific but smiled and said “it’s looking good”.
And that would make sense. The people supporting Clinton weren’t supporting her just because she’s a woman. They were supporting her because of her record and personality. Very, very few of them are going to vote for John McCain or any Republican.
More people watched Obama’s speech than watched the opening ceremony at the Olympics. After seeing that, and if they saw both of the Clintons’ speeches I don’t see how the party is not more unified than it has ever been in my lifetime and beyond. I promise you there are a lot of Republicans who are scared shitless right now, facing the very real possibility of losing more seats in both houses and the White House.
To them, I say every now and then a party needs its ass kicked, and you’ll come out stronger on the flip side. But for now, yeah, it’s looking bleak.
by Black Francis on Aug 29, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never understood the drama....
that was expected from the Clintons at the convention. Of course they were going to kiss and make up. I can’t believe anyone doubted that.
by bdavison94 on Aug 29, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Palin is the WRONG candidate
McCain really dropped the ball on this one. McCain’s major weakness is understanding the economy, he should’ve brought in someone that’s strong on his weaknesses, not someone that’s a clone.
by Coolbean04 on Aug 29, 2008 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This just further pushes me to vote for Obama
and I’m a Republican.
by Coolbean04 on Aug 29, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
makes no sense
Why must McCain’s VP choice be an expert on the economy? There are many cabinet positions to fill and lets not forget about advisors.
Nolan Ryan should be the Rangers president, GM, manager and pitching coach.
by RangerMad on Aug 29, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Economy
The economy is most people’s number one issue. McCain said in an interview one time that he’s not as strong politically on the economy as he is on foreign policy. By not choosing an economic centric VP, he’s admitting that his ticket isn’t good with most people’s number one issue unlike the democratic ticket.
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by DerekSTheRed on Aug 29, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would obviously be
the hottest VP ever. Maybe even hotter than Charles Dawes.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh-oh...
…serious peach fuzz on her face.
by oc on Aug 29, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
She's got that
hot, bookish look thing going.
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Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can ignore that
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Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can shave that
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 29, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TBALL!!! you hit the nail on the head!!
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“…and i thought she was kinda coming on to me a bit, because she said…‘succulent’”…
by oc on Aug 29, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, she just got the vote ...
… of all the guys who dig hot librarians. Don’t know how big that demographic is but she can certainly swing more votes from it than Biden.
by Melmart1 on Aug 29, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who DOESN'T
dig hot librarians?
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would ...
… but alas, none of the male librarians I have ever encountered were hot.
by Melmart1 on Aug 29, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should try drinking more before
heading to the library.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I am going to drink ...
… to make people look better, I would rather have a better selection that a handful of schlocky librarians. Particularly because I know two of them who work in a college library here in town, and quite frankly, they both scare me just a bit.
by Melmart1 on Aug 29, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
um
That isn’t her. That picture is of the overstock.com model.
THIS is her:
by naropean on Aug 29, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the power of correcting somebody on a blog...
by oc on Aug 29, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know right
I feel like I could wrestle a bear.
by naropean on Aug 29, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the pick
-McCain just engaged (woke up) every moderate republican, who, to this point, didn’t care what’s been going on. I promise, there is a lot of us.
-Palin took on Big Oil and won. Took on government corruption and won. I like that she’s green because she probably thinks she can make a difference.
-I think Biden will eat her lunch on experience but do we like old pitchers to join the Ranger’s staff because they have great experience?
Anyone that thinks this doesn’t help McCain’s womens’ vote is on crack. I would be interested in any woman’s opinion on which is more important to them: a woman breaking the glass ceiling for the first time in history or that woman’s view on abortion since everyone seems to think that will have more weight in this election
by corbsclinton on Aug 29, 2008 10:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll withhold judgement until I see her voting record
on the tech side (Yeah, I’m biased), but wow what a picture below!
by Taylor on Aug 29, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
How does an ultra conservative wake up moderate repblicans?
I think Biden will eat her lunch on experience but do we like old pitchers to join the Ranger’s staff because they have great experience?
What are you trying to say about McCain?
by enut21 on Aug 29, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because when I think moderate republican, I think its someone that is tired of both sides of the isle and the fact nothing is getting done. What she has done with her state and big oil tells me she’s not affraid of how much money she’s not going to get in campaign dollars. That’s a welcome first. Once she gets in and sees corruption, instead of joining the party, she calls them out. Who calls out corruption in Washington these days?
I wasn’t trying to say anything about McCain. I was comparing qualifications of the 2 possible vp’s. Biden gets the nod.
by corbsclinton on Aug 29, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who needs experience, When you have boobies?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 10:56 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow
They dug that one up quickly.
fap fap fap fap
Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.
by TheBZA on Aug 29, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm voting Republican
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 29, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me ...
or does that photo look like somebody put Palin’s head on somebody else’s body?
by Athos on Aug 29, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I opened it up in Photoshop
…and in my humble opinion it’s a fake. I’ve seen more obvious ones and I don’t normally use PS for that kind of thing so I’m not an expert. The most obvious evidence I can come up with is that the earrings are not in the right place at all. If you look at it closely they seem to be hanging from her cheeks, not her ears. Plus the compression in the face looks different than the compression in the background, but I don’t normally work in compressed formats so I can’t be sure about that.
by Black Francis on Aug 29, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
it IS hosted on fuckin’ flickr.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 29, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please let this be a joke....
I must be missing your attempt at humor right?
by bdavison94 on Aug 29, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its definately fake, but its still funny
i do photoshop work a bunch (i didnt modifiy that one though) and its not real. you can see the edge on her chin.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 30, 2008 3:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it's a fake....
I was just wondering if BF up there was trying to be funny with his seemingly serious attempt to uncover the fact that it was fake.
by bdavison94 on Aug 30, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck, I've become such a politics junkie
I love this shit. I cant wait until Nov 7. I know the swing states by heart lol.
I imagine some of you guys know, but did you see Nate Silver has a big politics site based on statistics? Here: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
by Sharky on Aug 29, 2008 11:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That site rocks
and lots of cool charts and graphs, etc. He had some interesting thoughts on Palin:
I DON’T think Palin will have a lot of appeal to Hillary Clinton voters, as Palin runs squarely into some gender politics taboos, i.e. the younger, more attractive, but less qualified woman replacing the older one.
and
But as one of my commenters notes, “it may be the biggest gamble in political history”. A significant gaffe on an issue like foreign policy — whether in the VP debate or in some other context — could render the election essentially unwinnable for McCain.
If I’m McCain I’m worrying more about her lack of experience in national campaigns than her lack of foreign policy experience.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd really like to see her speak in public
before saying if I think it will truly help or hurt McCain. Her resume looks pretty impeccable at this point, and again, if Obama wants to harp on her lack of experience, he’ll come across looking silly.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Her resume looks pretty impeccable at this point
1.5 years as governor of a state with twice the population of arlington?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i probably shouldn't have said "resume"
her background was maybe more apt
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what background?
mayor of wasila population 5,000? or runner up in Miss Alaska?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 kids
1 in Iraq
1 with Down’s Syndrome
not born with a silver spoon
took on corrupt politicians (Republican) in Alaska
strong female
etc.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'd almost venture to say that out of all 4 of them
she may be the one that is most like the “average person”
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sooooooo that makes her qualified to be one heartbeat fromm the president huh?
i guess we have different qualifications for our commander in chief!
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, it means that they can't dig for dirt in her personal life
dumbass
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good call.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe she can die soon
so that you can get excited about it like you did when Tony Snow passed.
if every person in that mold were to pass it would make this country better.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
naw she's a lot hotter than tony snow.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, Chuck Todd already covered this
Apparantly, the cop husband was beating Palins sister his wife at the time
So yeah, pretty much a pass on that one, nobody will dare touch her for it.
by Sharky on Aug 29, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does her having 5 kids and 1 with Down's have to do with anything?
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 29, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
makes her more "human"
in the public eye.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More human that someone who lost their wife and youngest child in an auto accident?
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 29, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
since when did I compare her to Biden?
the “more” in my comment was meant to contrast against Palin if she didn’t have the family.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zing
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 29, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I noticed quickly, if you look in the FAQ’s, Silver admits he is an Obama supporter, and as to whether that influences his sites results, says “I hope not”
So yeah, I think he’s looking for negatives on her because of his allegiances.
But you guys know how I’m always harping on Rasmussen as the most trustworthy poll, I thought this was interesting (basically one of the major hooks of Silvers site is that he gives different weight to different polls based on historical reliability) 
Yeah, rasmussen right up at the top (well, behind one outfit I’ve never heard of and surely doesnt do near the depth and frequency of polling Rasmussen does) and surveyusa (ditto more or less, though at least I’ve heard of them) and well above such left wing faves as Gallup, Zogby, LA Times/Bloomberg, CBS/New York Times, etc.
by Sharky on Aug 29, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The crazy thing about this is
Given McCain’s age:
What if he dies
If he doesnt die, she’ll have to be a major frontrunner for pres in 4-8 years??
Assuming McCain wins I suppose, a foregone conclusion imo.
This basically makes her a major force in national politics for oh, the next decade..
Shes supposed to come TV any second, I want to hear her, hurry up..
by Sharky on Aug 29, 2008 11:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What if he dies?
shouldnt that be question #1 for considering a VP nominee?
personally it scares the hell out of me that McCain could drop dead 2 days into office and the country would be stuck with a president whose main experience comes from 1+ years of a state half the population of Fort Worth.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When he dies
She can be the first President ever to star in a remake of Van Halen’s Hot for Teacher Video.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
by DJCahill on Aug 29, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You better ...
… keep her away from Salty!
by Melmart1 on Aug 29, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
rec
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is there ANY doubt who will portray her on SNL?
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tina Fey
Yeah this is great for SNL. Can’t wait till they start up again. Politics + SNL = comedy gold.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 29, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt tina fey leave SNL a while back?
sorry i dont catch SNL much anymore, amy poler or whatever her name is.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
Last week I took a pleasure trip. I drove my wife to the airport.
by Brian Thomas on Aug 29, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, i thought she was still a writer
for them…my bad
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When she comes back to
host she can do it.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
She’s doing 30 Rock now. Forgot about that.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 29, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The RNC will be hilarious
Apparently they are having trouble filling the 18,000 seat stadium (that is after the DNC had a waiting list for their 85,000 seat stadium). Really smart move on the Dems’ part – making the RNC look like the minor leagues in comparison.
by Mahon on Aug 29, 2008 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
I read it was McCAin’s biggest crowd so far by like a factor of 3, so thats not bad.
by Sharky on Aug 29, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not good either.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sound
they need a better sound engineer, the feedback is annoying.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
haaaaaaaawt
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speech
Ok, is this intro music like the “Alaska” theme or something? The sound of it makes it seem she should walk out wearing chaps or driving a dog sled.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i woulda liked Elvis, "North to Alaska!"
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was
Johnny Horton, but yeah.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn
i thought i knew my music history pretty good.
blew that one.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one of my hero's
well, just about.
very very fond of Fela. my minor was african studies and one of my professors was a college kid in nigeria when the military dictatorship was in power, i heard stories of the young students getting ready for the daily protests and riots against the government while dancing to Fela.
Fela is greatness.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
relevance
to Alaska or Johnny Horton? I had to look him up.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
none at all
but he makes rage against the machine look like republicans.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
t ball...
…your love affair with Fela Kuti and the Africa 70 begins now.
by oc on Aug 29, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
word!
fela was a badass
zombie is a good song to listen to to get into him.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Sorrow, Tears & Blood" was the song that hooked me.
by oc on Aug 29, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, pal
I love discovering new music but I just can’t bring myself to give one of your recs a listen after that DJ Dill Picklez (or whoever) shit you inflicted on me last time.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 29, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
give me a chance then
stevie wonder and james brown traveled to nigeria to play with the guy, he ain DJ Picklz or whatever.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 30, 2008 3:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ohhh, the Rudy them
ohhhh snapp!!!!
"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
by Longhorn on Aug 29, 2008 11:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a really smart move
McCain did a stellar job of keeping this under wraps, so it was a complete stunner this AM, taking Obama’s speech off the headlines.
It does dampen the “experience” angle a bit, but it was obvious that he had to pick someone young, and it wasn’t clear that that angle was working all that well anyway (it didn’t get Hillary anywhere).
The fact he picked a woman is smart, but made smarter by the fact that it was a shocker. Everyone just assumed it was going to be another generic rich white guy (Romney, Pawlenty), and they pull her out of the hat.
Who knows who wins this election, but at least none of the candidates are incredibly obnoxious (Edwards) or kind of scary (Cheney).
by JBImaknee on Aug 29, 2008 11:29 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
So...
there’s still a chance a woman can be president.
Good choice by McCain. Now he can get a good chunk of the “Lifetime” and “Oxygen” audience vote.
by chrisR on Aug 29, 2008 11:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i want to see her on "the View"
i mean…Is the View still on TV?
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Poor Michael Moore
can’t make up stuff now.
"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
by Longhorn on Aug 29, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well, i suppose he still can...
"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
by Longhorn on Aug 29, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think his upcoming movie
is based on Bush’s second term.
by Taylor on Aug 29, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the accent's a bit annoying
at least to me.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 11:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like her
She’s cool.
McCain=home run VP
Obama=strike out
Women will like her cus shes a woman, men will like her cus she’s hot
Will be Americas sweetheart.
by Sharky on Aug 29, 2008 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
king of the flames. general of the feeble. defender of the LSB trolls... sir shark.
the funny part is how many people take you serious…
I blame it not on Ron Washington, but on society. Society is to blame. And Ron Washington. ~Ken Tremendous on Ron Washington sac bunting in the 11th vs LAA
by ivysafety39 on Aug 29, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised
he’s not taking advantage of hitting up on Duff knowing her dad can’t come after him for 10 days
by Taylor on Aug 29, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lollolololol
"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
by Longhorn on Aug 29, 2008 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
McCain leads by 8-10 points within a week
This must be a nightmare for Obama..
by Sharky on Aug 29, 2008 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if obama nominates some1 similar youd be railing on how it was his doomsday b/c her experience is axactly Jack and Shit.
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats because his experience is
jack and shit.
his = obamas
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Aug 29, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...
who is obamas?
"For those booing me. Take that, beeep." - Ramon Vazquez
by 8legs2fangs on Aug 29, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were already talking about the Biden=Palin debate
1. He cant go after her hard with all his years of foreign policy experience or he risks looking like a bully
2. The expectations for her will be so low, it’ll be impossible for her not outperform them
LOL, poor Democraps..
by Sharky on Aug 29, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
re:
Palin has more experience in running a government than both Biden and Obama combined, yet, dems will say she is ‘inexperienced’…
"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
by Longhorn on Aug 29, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1.5 years of experience as governor of a state with 1/2 as many people as fort worth will get ya a title of inexperienced
dont ya think?
"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM
by Jayslick on Aug 29, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
about the same experience as Obama
considering Obama’s now spent 2 years of his term running for a different office.
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by willamos2 on Aug 29, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark
by knockoutking on Aug 29, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
since when are...
…the republicans sentimental about people getting bullied?
I blame it not on Ron Washington, but on society. Society is to blame. And Ron Washington. ~Ken Tremendous on Ron Washington sac bunting in the 11th vs LAA
by ivysafety39 on Aug 29, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
low expectations
that’s a plus, but I have to think they are going to be prepping her nonstop with her lack of experience in this kind of thing.
And you’re absolutely right. It’s amazing how not a single Democrat in the universe has ever, ever had a good idea (that wasn’t stolen from the Aryan greatness of the GOP). What a bunch of bungling idiots.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patronizing
Oh, and you’re attitude about Biden having to go soft on the female is awfully patronizing.
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.
by t ball on Aug 29, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you expect more from sharky?
I blame it not on Ron Washington, but on society. Society is to blame. And Ron Washington. ~Ken Tremendous on Ron Washington sac bunting in the 11th vs LAA
by ivysafety39 on Aug 29, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs