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what JD had to say

I'm not real good with prose, so I'll just scattershoot the parts of the session that I remember...

JD started by remarking that the Q&A event w/ the Newberg crowd is one of his favorite days of the year. Nice touch and good way to warm the crowd.

My favorite anecdote was when JD answered my question about the reaction in the draft room when Houston made their draft pick, which sealed the fact that Smoak was going to fall to the Rangers. He remarked that within the industry it is generally pretty well known what each team is going to do going into the draft, so once the first few picks played out, it started to become obvious to them that they would be able to land Smoak. Then he told a story about how the 2006 draft unfolded in the Rangers draft HQ. He said that going into that draft, the one team that was unclear on their intentions was SF. The Rangers had eyes for Tiny Tim Lincecum, and if he had made it past SF, then the braintrust was confident that he would be a Ranger. JD said that Lincecum's five digit draft number was something like 00605, and when the Giants announced their pick, they started by saying "six" and JD admitted that he was feeling elated, not realizing that the first two zeros are commonly ommitted.

He said that the evaluation of Galaragga was flawed, but he does not think that the Rangers evaluation process is flawed. I understood his answer to mean that he believes the team had a poor evaluation of an individual pitcher, but that it was an isolated incident. This was also my question.

Hambone extension talks have been tabled for the time being.

When Grant Schiller asked what he would guess the rotation would be in 2010, using only current members of the system. JD asked him what he thought and he said Feliz, Hurley, Hunter, Harrison, and Kiker. JD responded that those sounded good to him then remarked that some young pitchers currently in the bigs could also hold their roto spots.

Remarked that he is hopeful CJ grows into the closer role, and he said he knows that fans have been getting uneasy when the Ceej enters a game and remarked, "if you are getting uneasy when he is coming into the game, just try and imagine how I am feeling". Got a roomfull of laughs there.

When asked what advice he would give to others that could be used in coaching, leadership, business, or life in general he said, "Be brutally honest".

Said that Jon Hart is around a few times a year and admitted that he solicits opinions from him at certain times. Remarked that even though Hart had a rough go in Texas with media, fans, and on-field results, but he still has a wealth of knowledge that JD like to tap into at times.

From Will Carroll...

Said that JD is one of the GMs that he most respects in the game, but said that he has "grave concern" about the hiring of Colburn as bullpen coach. Carroll has a very low opinion of that guy.

Regarding Brandon McCarthy (my question), Carroll said that he doesn't expect him to recover. Said something about a chain of injuries from fingertips to forearm to elbow to shoulder that is rarely ever recovered from. Said some guys just aren't cut out for the act of pitching in the bigs and every time one part of the body is strengthened, another weak link in the chain brakes. He sounded very discouraging about any expectations of McCarthy lasting any length of time in a major league rotation.

He also mentioned that he has serious concerns about Clayton Kershaw's mechanics. (Gasp...the cornerstone of my keeper team!)

He has known Tommy Hunter since he was 15 years old and has always been high on him. Says he thought Hunter would end up a closer, but now thinks he may have been selling him short. He says CJ is no closer, he's a LOOGY.

Believes that if Teagarden stays healthy and hits .260 that he will be the most valuable of that group of four.

Joe Sheehan said...

When asked what pitcher would be the best FA target for the Rangers in the next few years - he said King Felix.

He also said that he thinks the talent on hand could easily lead to a run of 3 divisional titles in a 5 year time frame, beginning in 2010 with Feliz heading the rotation. Also cautioned against expecting Feliz to pitch in the big leagues before then. I guess he is saying that Feliz could top a rotation from the moment he gets called up.

Anyway, the event was great - big props to Newberg for another quality program.

 

 

 

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Great stuff

thanks for posting this

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by hinduplaya on Aug 3, 2008 10:03 PM CDT   0 recs

thanks a lot

I appreciate the summary.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Aug 3, 2008 10:07 PM CDT   0 recs

I thought

You couldn’t go.

by brettgardner on Aug 3, 2008 10:07 PM CDT   0 recs

nobody responded to my offer

and I worked a deal w/ the g/f.

Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.

by tricer on Aug 3, 2008 10:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

kershaw

I saw him in high school, and it kinda looks like he short arms the ball.

by cashman on Aug 3, 2008 10:08 PM CDT   0 recs

I went 2-2 against Kershaw in high school

sorry I have to brag about that whenever I get the chance. :)

thanks for the summary tricer…hopefully I’ll be able to make next years event.

by Butters on Aug 3, 2008 10:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's the #1 prospect in baseball

and you’re commenting on this blog…life isn’t far.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Aug 3, 2008 11:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice

So that isn’t you in that picture then, ah.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Aug 3, 2008 11:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

King Felix.

Like Seattle’s going to let him go.

by LiamP on Aug 3, 2008 10:12 PM CDT   0 recs

he didnt say let him go

he said trade him for a big haul, there is a difference there

by blueballlefty on Aug 3, 2008 11:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Just going by what Sheehan said (via tricer).
When asked what pitcher would be the best FA target for the Rangers in the next few years – he said King Felix.

Either way, you’d have to give up the mother of all trade packages to get him if you were to deal for him. He’s about as close to untouchable as there is. He’s all they got up there, and he’s still young enough for them to be able to build around him.

by LiamP on Aug 3, 2008 11:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah he was asked what free agents

but when he talked about King Felix he said he said, that the Mariners would have to make a decision on him soon and if he were the Rangers he would try to trade for him, because he thinks the Mariners should/will end up trying to trade him. I didnt read all of Tricers post, but he did a great job from the parts I read. The initial question was about the free agent pitcher he would sign and then he turned it to he would try to trade for King Felix

by blueballlefty on Aug 4, 2008 12:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

jd is such a beast
The Rangers had eyes for Tiny Tim Lincecum, and if he had made it past SF, then the braintrust was confident that he would be a Ranger.

a change in philosophy most definitely.

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Aug 3, 2008 10:18 PM CDT   0 recs

even with that

man, what a great draft JD’s first could end up being.

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Aug 3, 2008 10:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

Putting Lincecum with Davis, Holland, Lemon, etc. would be something.

I’ve mentioned before that in addition to Lincecum virtually every pitcher who went before Texas was a slam dunk pick and has been successful. Just unfortunate in their slot and hopefully Kiker will come through.

Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return

by zywica on Aug 3, 2008 10:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

holland in the 25th round

what a great steal

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 4, 2008 1:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why is that so great?

A lot of people though highly of Lincecum. Some people only questioned his weird mechanics and whether it would be able to hold up…I don’t think anyone ever questioned the fact that the kid has a lot of talent.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Aug 3, 2008 11:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks tricer

I disagree with both Carroll and Daniels on Wilson. He is clearly more than a loogy, but I have no idea how Daniels thinks that he’s going to "grow" into the closer’s role. He doesn’t have the stuff to dominate RHB, and closers have to dominate RHB. If he had that, he might as well be in the rotation, because with his other stuff he’d be a legit #2 or #3 starter.

Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return

by zywica on Aug 3, 2008 10:22 PM CDT   0 recs

Oh no.

Zywica/LSB/SBNation exploding.

by LiamP on Aug 3, 2008 10:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nevermind.

Saw him post that 7 times in succession, refreshed, and it’s normal now.

by LiamP on Aug 3, 2008 10:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I just accidentally said “agree” rather than “disagree” so I deleted and replaced it since I can.

Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return

by zywica on Aug 3, 2008 10:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So...

zywica what do you feel CJ’s best place is on the team?

by clinton33 on Aug 3, 2008 10:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Probably LH setup

I’ve thought that he should get a shot in the rotation, when they were pretty low on candidates. That seems like will be less and less the case moving forward, though.

I don’t think he’s a playoff caliber closer, but you need at least two excellent late guys anyway, preferably three, and I think he can be one of those.

Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return

by zywica on Aug 3, 2008 10:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So, the role he played last year

If he could perform like that again, I’d be ecstatic with him.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739

by BudLight on Aug 3, 2008 10:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thats what i figured....

CJ would be best just facing lefties in key situations late in games.

I was wondering if you felt he should be in the rotation, but that won’t change his inability to get right-handers out or throw strikes.

by clinton33 on Aug 4, 2008 5:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks Todd

Really wish I coulda made it this year. Will Carroll is greatness, no?

What was that, two years ago mebbe, when Will was kinda bashing JD…and JD was waiting on the entrance ramp to walk in? lol

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2008 10:35 PM CDT   0 recs

* sore subject for him I'm sure

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Aug 3, 2008 11:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the trade

was adressed and he just said that they thought Bmac had gone through his lumps and was prime for a break out year, he did thank the kid that asked it and was very open for any questions and answered them the best he could, he obviously was very hopeful that BMac would come back this year and really contribute!

by blueballlefty on Aug 3, 2008 11:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Gracias Tricer

I completely agree with the what the principles had to say about both McCarthy & Teagarden.

McCarthy’s body is rejecting the notion that he’s a pitcher. Said so back in March.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Aug 3, 2008 10:52 PM CDT   0 recs

thanks for the post

how long does seattle have control of him?

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 3, 2008 10:55 PM CDT   0 recs

he will be arb eligible

the next three years then eligible for FA at age 26.

Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.

by tricer on Aug 3, 2008 11:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+Rec!

Only 6 so far…huh???

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2008 10:58 PM CDT   0 recs

One other thing

JD said that he voted against an international draft at last years GM meetings. Feels that the Rangers have a competitive advantage that would be mostly negated if the international guys were subject to a draft.

Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.

by tricer on Aug 3, 2008 11:23 PM CDT   0 recs

did anyone ask him

how they managned to whiff on this years international free agents despite this competetive advantage? Did he comment on Oakland’s Inoa swindle or the Suero near-swindle last year?

Oh, and thanks for the transcript- great stuff!

by Goyogringo on Aug 4, 2008 12:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yes he commented on Inoa

he was obvioulsy very peeved about it, and said that the rules where very easily bent and in some cases (Inoa) Shattered. It almost was like they were just learning all the “ropes” down there.

by blueballlefty on Aug 4, 2008 12:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

JD

he is so AWESOME, I truly feel we are very lucky to have him. He is truly the anti-john hart when it comes to public relations. The guy was sincere and VERY attentive to all questions, when you asked him a question, he looked you stright in the and gave you the whole answer. I have changed my opinion in the last two years, but after tonight I am a JD SUPPORTER!
The Carroll opinions on Jim Colburn are VERY TROUBLING, he said he didnt agree with what he did in Pittsburg with there pitching staff and said he thought he really hurt some of there young arms in a number of different ways (SCARY SCARY SCARY). and AJM and the rest of LSB is so worried about Nolan, looks like they have another guy that is scarier!

by blueballlefty on Aug 3, 2008 11:33 PM CDT   0 recs

Thanks for the notes.

VM!

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2008 11:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks

I think we can safely say thad jd will get grienke this winter. What jd wants in a trade, jd gets…

Josh Hamilton is better than you.

by Longhorn on Aug 4, 2008 12:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

good stuff!
4 is interesting, the summary of their strategy for using pitchers in Extended as well as the presence of strength/cond coaches at each level; maybe that will quite down compaints about the Ranger’s being more injury prone than other teams…

by Goyogringo on Aug 4, 2008 12:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Any word from JD

on how the draftee negotiations are going?

WC’s comments on BMac – weird considering those very thoughts – BMac’s TOAST – sat down to camp out in my mind just a few hours ago.

by shroomer on Aug 3, 2008 11:47 PM CDT   0 recs

Carroll on BMac

Still thought that was harsh.

Seems like a weird time for the wheels to fall off, 24 years old, but going back on thebaseballcube there are conspicuous low-inning years. I don’t know his Minors injury history well.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Aug 3, 2008 11:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I just can’t see him going into this offseason with very good memories of the 2008 season. Perhaps in the final weeks he can grit together a decent short outing as a tease. But, when opening day 2009 hits I don’t know how you can expect much out of a guy who has strung together back-to-back disaster seasons – or a poor season followed by a disaster season. I’m thinking the looming glory of the Ranger future has passed him by.

by shroomer on Aug 4, 2008 12:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i wonder if its a balance thing..

.. he’s so tall and lanky, i wonder if he learned to land the front foot in order to have better control. Whatever the reason, this isn’t the first photo that shows the “landing-the-front-foot-before-the-arm-going-forward” problem.

by mattrpav on Aug 4, 2008 12:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I believe you've misunderstood something.

It’s physically impossible to move your arm and shoulder forward (in relation to your body) with any kind of force while you only have 1 foot on the ground.

It's filed under 'D'... for donut.

by NoNameOnCard on Aug 4, 2008 3:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

His arm appears to be in line with his shoulders.

You can argue that his shoulders shouldn’t have that huge angle to them, but there’s really nothing wrong with his arm.

It's filed under 'D'... for donut.

by NoNameOnCard on Aug 4, 2008 3:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

we should send Beverly23 out on assignment...

...close up photos of McCarthy’s pitching motions during his next rehab start.

by oc on Aug 4, 2008 4:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Doesn't look like an arm slot problem...

His elbow is above the shoulder which puts less stress on the shoulder and it appears his hand is outside his elbow which puts less stress on the elbow. Maybe he would benefit from more of a 3/4,sidearm slot (Randy Johnson) as long as he keeps the elbow up.

by slimshadty12 on Aug 4, 2008 10:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Elbow above the shoulder is bad. Hand outside is bad, too.

It puts stress on the labrum and the biceps tendon while preventing the rotator cuff from rotating. This is especially bad when a pitcher has a pronounced scapular load like McCarthy does. The only time the elbow should be above the shoulders is shortly before and shortly after release when the shoulder is essentially done accelerating the arm.

As for the hand, it’s all about leverage. The further the hand gets from the body (outside the elbow), the more work the shoulder and elbow have to do to accelerate the ball. For example, throwing with a completely stiff arm gives the elbow no flexibility and completely removes the triceps muscle from the acceleration process.

If you bring your hand too close to the body (inside the elbow), your triceps muscle has to do too much work to maintain good acceleration. This often leads to triceps tendinitis, even when pronation occurs, because it stretches the tendon around the elbow and then rapidly contracts.

If you’re spitting out what a pitching coach has told you. It’s time you get a new pitching coach.

It's filed under 'D'... for donut.

by NoNameOnCard on Aug 4, 2008 12:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah and it is a forearm injury

and a pretty weird one too. Doesn’t sound like it would be a chronic thing. But then, I thought the same about Blaclock and his weird syndromes….

by Goyogringo on Aug 4, 2008 12:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not A JD Fan

I wish I could agree that JD knew what he was doing and the future looked good for this team. But I think JD has proven repeatedly that he is not up to the job. I believe it is because he has been so bad in his trades and his free agent signings mostly unproductive that he has retreated to the “plan” of buidling for the future. So we see lots and lots of really young prospects who are supposed to take us to the promised land in the same way that the DVD trio was supposed to be the core of the 2008 rotation. The good stuff is always going to be just around the corner. Any example you can site in his favor is marginal in terms of seeing a contending team. Will it happen in 2010 – don’t think so. It’s true the farm system is much better, but it’s at about the same level as the A’s and the Angels. But the A’s will develop their pitchers in a way the Ranger’s never have. The Angels will use their top prospects and make strong trades and free agent acquisitions in a way the Rangers, again, never have under JD. How does any of this translate into the Rangers being a contender in 2010 or beyond. I wish it were not so but I think what you will see is a continuation of the frustration we have seen for the last several years until JD is ultimately fired and we begin again. Don’t forget, JD got this job by convincing Hicks that he was going to build the new Rangers around pitching and defense – how’s that working for us? I do admire JD’s survival skills. He didn’t deliver on his promise to Hicks and every time he makes one of those “this is a must win for JD” decisions like Danks/McCarthy or hiring Washington he just seems to be able to ride it out. I don’t dislike JD, I’ve met him and he’s a nice and smart young man, but he’s not GM material and organizations usually don’t prosper when weak at the top.

Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson

by RangerEddie on Aug 4, 2008 12:01 AM CDT   0 recs

Yes, JD's survival

skills are to be admired. Very good post, Ranger Eddie but they may not elect you mayor in here for saying the emperor is not wearing any clothes.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2008 12:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yep in 2010 we'll be talking about 2012

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 4, 2008 12:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

please....

you guys deserve each other.

by Goyogringo on Aug 4, 2008 12:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I actually think

2012 is about the earliest time we can make plans for success and that’s IF…..IF some of the magic bean pitchers prove to be close to as much as they have been hyped.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2008 12:32 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I actually think you're not like others here

who try to be negative to piss people off. While I am a fan of what JD is doing I do believe you have some legitimate points. Specifically “But the A’s will develop their pitchers in a way the Ranger’s never have”. This is absolutely true and this is a fear I as well as a few others possess. I think firing Connor was the right move and a good step. They need to find a solid replacement thought…one who has experience in working well with you pitchers.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Aug 4, 2008 12:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the thing about

"But the A’s will develop their pitchers in a way the Ranger’s never have". is what pitchers has JD brought in that he hasn’t developed. the guy hasn’t been here long enough with his GUYS developing pitchers to be labeled that way.

by blueballlefty on Aug 4, 2008 12:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs