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8/3/08 post game thread

Rangers win.  Life is good.

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So, to review what we learned last night:

- Luis Mendoza > Steal Home

- Gerald Laird > David Purcey

- CJ Wilson is finally losing his grip on the closers job?

A Lonestar in California

We need to hire Chuck Norris to kick the ass of any Ranger fan caught booing one of our young pitchers at the RBiA.

by lonestarJon on Aug 3, 2008 10:06 PM CDT   0 recs

Make that tonight...

I’m thinking so far ahead, it’s tomorrow already.

A Lonestar in California

We need to hire Chuck Norris to kick the ass of any Ranger fan caught booing one of our young pitchers at the RBiA.

by lonestarJon on Aug 3, 2008 10:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wasn't a save situation....

So I don’t put too much focus on who pitched the ninth… I only hope it means Eddie has the closer job for now. It was good to watch a game close out without going into nailbiting territory…

by JReddog on Aug 3, 2008 10:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

JD said...

at the Newberg Night get together that they were going to give CJ a few days of rest.

by sftxfan on Aug 3, 2008 10:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

woooooooooo 4 runs in 7 innings

he is our new ACE,

since luis had one average game, laird should bat 3rd, ian should bat last, and ramon is the best-lefty hitter we have

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 3, 2008 10:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

-1

Think before you post.

by hiafex on Aug 3, 2008 10:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I know it is

I was -1ing his poor attempt at sarcasm.

by hiafex on Aug 3, 2008 11:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you obviously dont get that im being sarcastic

people should not go by one average start. thats why you dont think laird is a power hitter because he hit 2 hr today

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 3, 2008 11:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You fail.

I vote that BaseballIsMyBoyfriend buys the Rangers.

by ghtd36 on Aug 3, 2008 10:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Your attempt at humor

has turned into an Epic Fail.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 4, 2008 8:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Luis Mendoza

has something.

by tyd3311 on Aug 3, 2008 10:08 PM CDT   0 recs

+ 1

he calmed down quite nicely, I was pleasantly surpised after that bad start.

There is no status, except for me. Because I am who I am.

MILES

by LAMuscleFag on Aug 3, 2008 10:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's great

When there’s nobody on base. He seems over-anxious when there are base runners and can’t hit the strike zone.
Note: These are just observations from tonights game.

by hiafex on Aug 3, 2008 10:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That makes sense....

He tends to give up a huge inning every start.(3 runs or more) instead of getting out of jams with little damage.

by clinton33 on Aug 3, 2008 10:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ya, sez his

brother.

:p

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2008 10:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He certainly has the cutest dimples

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"If I buy this team, Chris Davis will end up suing me for sexual harassment." - Me
"Oh, but it will be worth it. a few million to you at that point will be pocket change." - LAMuscleFag

by baseballismyboyfriend on Aug 3, 2008 10:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ha ha

It was just an observation from post-game interview. I’d never noticed them before

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"If I buy this team, Chris Davis will end up suing me for sexual harassment." - Me
"Oh, but it will be worth it. a few million to you at that point will be pocket change." - LAMuscleFag

by baseballismyboyfriend on Aug 3, 2008 11:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Did Neil Ramirez get hurt again?

Got beat around for an inning before Nevarez took over?

by LiamP on Aug 3, 2008 10:13 PM CDT   0 recs

NeRa tonight

The radio announcer didn’t mention anything about an injury to Ramirez. He finished the first inning and was replaced in the second.

by spurdynasty on Aug 3, 2008 10:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The next 2 weeks...

Granted most feel that the Rangers are out of WC contention…

The next few weeks will make or break this team with games against NYY and Bos.

If we somehow go 5-2 or better we still have a chance….anything less than that will just be treading water like we have been.

I don’t see it happening just because of our inconsistant starting pitching….which is the same reason we cannot go on a extended win streak that would also help. We can’t go 3 games without a starter getting shelled for 6 or 7 runs.

by clinton33 on Aug 3, 2008 10:14 PM CDT   0 recs

Game

Mendoza was solid
Laird hit 2 homeruns
Murph went 0 for

the AJM trifecta.

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Aug 3, 2008 10:14 PM CDT   0 recs

lol

nice…

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2008 10:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Very nice win...

...I dunno how the F they keep doing it. Every night is a high-wire act with too much pressure on the defense but we’re into the first week of August and they keep proving me wrong.

Proving me wrong collectively about this bunch is a good.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Aug 3, 2008 10:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Too much pressure on the defense?

It’s too much pressure on the offense to pull the pitchers out of the ditch every night.

Great effort by Luis, Luis!!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Aug 3, 2008 11:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What the hell?

Did you forget to switch users?

by LiamP on Aug 3, 2008 11:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Kinda strange, eh?

Kinda like Who the Fvck is this, HH?

Yeah, that kinda strange…

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2008 11:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I know..

After last night’s loss, thinking about how well the Jays had been playing of late, I convinced myself they were gonna get 2 of 3 from us… then were down 3-0 after the 1st, and I knew it… and the upcoming schedule was posted during the broadcast and i was thinking this was the beginning of the end of our run… but Mendoza settles down, a couple of big home runs, and we have another series win. Somehow, someway. As tough as the upcoming schedule seems, there is one thing I’ve learned about this Rangers team, never assume a loss.

by tyd3311 on Aug 3, 2008 11:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Reading through...

a little of the gameday thread made me realize why I’m not as fond of them as I used to be. A whole lot of knee-jerking (mostly by that Steal Home clown) about Luis. The guy does have pretty good stuff. He gives up 3 runs in one inning and people want him sent down? Really? Do we not understand that this team is not chasing a pennant and has a ton of pitchers on the DL?

At this point any pitcher with average stuff who is healthy is going to get a shot to stick around. The amount of “DFA him. etc.” after every negative play from every player in every game is ridiculous. But I digress.

Anyway, nice to see the Rangers come back. OMFT stil pnws LH pitching, and if he keeps playing like this Salty if going to find himself gone in the off season. NIce to see Davis with a couple hits including the HR. Ian is really struggling right now though.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 3, 2008 10:28 PM CDT   0 recs

Re: that Steal Home clown

is between 12 and 15. Annoying, yes…but give the kid a break.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2008 10:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

few things

1. Its not 3 runs in 1 inning, it was 31 runs in 39 innings at the time. I hardly think its knee jerking to be annoyed with the guy. As long as its recognized when someone turns it around, whats the big deal.
2. I only saw one guy say they should send him down in the current climate, and he was promptly shouted down 3x over
3. Plenty of people made those exact same points at the time. Your post sounds like you are the voice of reason 3 hours later when it was said 3 minutes later.

imo the griping about the gameday threads is as ridiculous as the griping about a bad start or a couple of errors. i can not get my head around how people can expect no negative reaction to when things are going badly. seriously, I know ive said it before, but reactions at the time is the entire basis of the thread. errors and bad pitching is not fun to watch. people make negative comments about it. someone hits a homerun or the rangers win, there comes a lot of positive comments. or like frankie’s good inning.

im sorry, but I see these complaints every other day and I dont get it.

i swear. some people just want a play by play of each thing thats happening. open up mlb gameday if thats what you want. you cant expect only positive emotion and just reserved mild “he will be better next time” judgement when bad things happen. its unreasonable.

put “dfa” into the search engine and half the mentions are jokes, very few people actually are suggesting X player be released.

ok, im done ranting. said my piece.

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Aug 3, 2008 10:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

DFA his ass!

As Mr. Sheppard so eloquently explained, GDTs are about the moment, the emotion…the passion. If baseball doesn’t get your juices flowing, try something else. The GDTs are about as fun & psychotic as watching a playoff game live, and we like it that way.

I realize they have been overrun by a bunch of new folks lately, who may not be in tune. But AJM (I think), loves all the new traffic, and we’ll school those young pups up. No worries, mate!

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2008 10:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The moment, the emotion, the passion...the GIFs.

Gameday Thread 2: Revenge of the Connor.

by LiamP on Aug 3, 2008 11:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Copycat?

;)

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2008 11:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah there is nothing better

than typing down your emotion….

by Goyogringo on Aug 4, 2008 12:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you've become

quite the advocate of the gameday threads.

by Randy Richardson on Aug 3, 2008 11:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My cause is righteous, my logic sound... I shall prevail.

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Aug 3, 2008 11:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

pshaw

typical damsel in distress, knight in shining armor bit…

typical

by Telegraph on Aug 3, 2008 11:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 4, 2008 8:32 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 4, 2008 12:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

he's not griping

just saying he doesn’t like them and saying why. i can’t remember if he’s made the same point previously but if it’s for the first time, I don’t see anything wrong with that.

and there is a subtle difference between “that sucks” and “that guy is terrible” but there is a difference. You might not think so but you also have a limit to what knee jerks you will tolerate. Are you going to let someone say “Hamilton sucks” after an 0-11 stretch? Even when he did that (or something similar) earlier in the year, most people said things like “I really hope Hamilton breaks out of it,” as opposed to just bashing him.

Mendoza is no Hamilton and there is nothing to suggest that he’s going to be really good, but I don’t think many are ready to close the book on him (at least thinking about it objectively). It’s just kind of annoying to have to read “X sucks” when you don’t think it’s true and the person saying it is only basing it on one play.

that being said, I don’t want to make any push to change the gameday threads. would just like to point out that just because I don’t want to DFA someone does not mean I’m not upset. I don’t boo my team either.

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Aug 4, 2008 2:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i wonder when the last time someone

Seriously suggested to DFA someone where the following wasnt a factor:

1) Noone immediately said we don’t have anyone better to replace him or otherwise said that was silly.
2) Or if those 2 fail, the player wasnt at least somewhat deserving of being sent down. I mean really, Luis Mendoza would have been sent down weeks ago in probably every other organization in baseball. Hes just lucky he happens to be on the rangers who have noone else to throw out there.

Seriously, I put DFA into the comment search engine, and I see mostly sarcasm. Someone suggested we DFA Blalock because they dont tihnk we will pick up his option. I honestly think there are more people mocking “DFA” comments then there are actual DFA comments. Im probably guilty of the same in reverse, but everything is getting massively exaggerated.

Anyway, past that one point… yes I can see where the difference between this guy sucks and hes sucking today could get to you… but you are drawing a fine line that most people arn’t considering in their post-3run homerun to put the rangers behind comment. And in some of your comments you act like thats legitimately 90% of the thread, when there is even MORE knee jerk celebration. Does murph hitting a HR really make him a great outfielder any more than X player having an 0 for 9 run makes him terrible? Its 2 sides of the same coin and its difficult to only get one of them. I think you are taking each individual quick post too seriously. If you don’t wish to participate in the outbreaks of negativity when the rangers are blowing a game, thats obviously just fine, but you’ve called the recent threads trash because of negativity, and I dont think its fair to act like thats ACTUALLY the majority of the threads. Hell, the connor jinx thing that you were so focused in on was a running joke. Of course, people still disliked him legitimately though. And hey, now hes gone.

And if you are suggesting things were any different earlier.. id suggest you don’t remember april. At least until the point apathy set in as the rangers reached new lows… id rather people still be upset when the rangers suck than they be so used to it to the point of apathy.

Anyway, I certainly can understand that not everyone wants to take part in that kind of minute by minute reactionary threads. I get that and its just fine, but I think some of the comments ive seen recently are unfair. Especially after the game like the original post in this line of discussion. Looking at reaction to mendoza blowing up 3 hours later when the rangers have come back, he settled down and its a win? Unfair point of judgement.

And yes, Im taking all this way too seriously. I could take my own advice and just ignore these few complaints. But im not claiming im perfect =)

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Aug 4, 2008 12:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

in retrospect

thats quite a wall of text i just put up. hmm.

summary: Woo! Gameday threads!

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Aug 4, 2008 12:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think...

I’ve made that point before, but I could be wrong.

I’m ok with DShep’s point of view. I understand that “heat of the moment” argument. I’m not trying to be the “voice of reason” or sound like I’m better than any other LSBer. I guess I would just like to hear more reasoning to a point. The first point he made with Mendoza and runs allowed is what I like to see. Not just “this guy sucks”. That is why I like these post game threads.

I don’t expect the gameday threads to change. Which is fine, no big deal. I was just saying that I used to read them almost every game and now I usually just skim through them a couple times a week. No big deal. So back off protector of the gameday threads. =P

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 4, 2008 5:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I could be mistaken but...

didn’t Mendoza basically pitch very well after the visit to the mound by Andy Hawkins?

II Cor. 4:17-18

by TedFord on Aug 3, 2008 10:28 PM CDT   0 recs

Andy Hawkins

the anti-Mark Connor

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"If I buy this team, Chris Davis will end up suing me for sexual harassment." - Me
"Oh, but it will be worth it. a few million to you at that point will be pocket change." - LAMuscleFag

by baseballismyboyfriend on Aug 3, 2008 10:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

are you doing that on purpose?

do you also not believe in evolution?

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Aug 4, 2008 2:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

awesome

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 4, 2008 8:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Luis Mendoza

was good, which was encouraging. My prediction: Rangers finish 2nd in WC Race behind the Red Sox, or beat the Rays in the WC race if the Sox catch them. The pitching is now due to turn a corner.

"You can't reason with your heart; it has its own laws, and thumps about things which the intellect scorns." - from A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, by Mark Twain

by dstar442005 on Aug 3, 2008 10:33 PM CDT   0 recs

Yup. Life is good.

I vote that BaseballIsMyBoyfriend buys the Rangers.

by ghtd36 on Aug 3, 2008 10:34 PM CDT   0 recs

I didn't read threads for last night

but is anybody else thinking AJ Burnett might be a good FA target if he opts out? Maybe he’s third behind Sabathia and Sheets but he might be more affordable.

by jcAustin on Aug 3, 2008 10:35 PM CDT   0 recs

No

32 years old, great stuff, not great results, a bad injury history.

He’s Darren Dreifort.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 3, 2008 10:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

2nd tier

Who are the 2nd tier pitching free agents? We never seem to land the big guy, but who are the other “Burnett types” that will be out there?

Nippert=Cy Young

by RA Dickey on Aug 3, 2008 10:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I dunno

I’ve got no interest in any 2nd tier f.a. pitchers, though.

I’d rather stick with Millwood and Padilla and the in-house options, plus anyone available via trade, than go out there and try to get a 2nd tier guy.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 3, 2008 10:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's the list....

Starting Pitchers
Kris Benson PHI
A.J. Burnett TOR (may opt out)
Paul Byrd CLE
Ryan Dempster CHC
Jon Garland LAA
Tom Glavine ATL
Mike Hampton * ATL
Rich Harden * CHC
Orlando Hernandez NYM
Jason Jennings TEX
Randy Johnson ARZ
John Lackey * LAA
Esteban Loaiza CHW
Braden Looper STL
Derek Lowe LAD
Pedro Martinez NYM
Mike Mussina NYY
Jamie Moyer PHI
Mark Mulder * STL
Carl Pavano NYY
Brad Penny * LAD
Odalis Perez WAS
Oliver Perez NYM
Andy Pettitte NYY
Mark Prior SD
Horatio Ramirez KC
C.C. Sabathia MIL
Ben Sheets MIL
John Smoltz * ATL
Julian Tavarez ATL
Steve Trachsel BAL
Brett Tomko SD
Claudio Vargas MIL
Randy Wolf HOU

Everyone with an * has an 09 option

Nippert=Cy Young

by RA Dickey on Aug 3, 2008 10:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's about a 90%

buttsecks ratio there, for whomever pays those gents.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2008 10:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i would go after

garland
lowe
mussina
oliver perez
sabathia
prior for a low,low price

Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future

by Steal Home on Aug 3, 2008 10:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The only guy...

on that list I wouldn’t mind seeing the Rangers go after besides CC and Sheets would be Garland. Other than that I don’t really see any of those guys as a upgrade over Millwood.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 3, 2008 11:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Meh...

I know he’s not great, but he has averaged about 200 IP and a ERA just under 4.50 over the last 7 seasons.

He’s only 28 so I could see him as a solid ML innings eater in the middle of the rotation. I would only try and go after him if the Rangers could deal Millwood, which may be tough.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 3, 2008 11:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If by bad you mean

$12 mil for a 4.50ERA and MAYBE a 1.5:1 GB/FB ratio and a guy who doens’t strikeout anyone.

Check it out. NIppert has a third of Garlands K total in about a quarter of the innings this year.

Turrible. Garland may not suck but he is drastically overpaid.

"We go to Jim Knox..."
"Why are you yelling? You're a foot from me..."
"It really tied the room together..."

by Updog on Aug 3, 2008 11:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Garland has gone out there every fifth day...

...that alone makes him better than any pitcher on this staff.

by oc on Aug 3, 2008 11:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll take TBA

considering how close this team is to contending with the Angels.

"We go to Jim Knox..."
"Why are you yelling? You're a foot from me..."
"It really tied the room together..."

by Updog on Aug 3, 2008 11:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

WTF are you?

Damn…newbies every night ‘round here.

Welcome!

What smells in here…:)

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2008 11:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Long-time caller first-time listener

"We go to Jim Knox..."
"Why are you yelling? You're a foot from me..."

by Updog on Aug 3, 2008 11:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

West of

the Rockies?

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2008 11:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What stinks is CJ's ERA.

"We go to Jim Knox..."
"Why are you yelling? You're a foot from me..."

by Updog on Aug 3, 2008 11:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Most ML pitchers...

are overpaid. I would pay 10-12 mil a year for 200 IP and a 4.50 ERA on this staff. The price of pitching has gone through the roof.

I don’t think you should be comparing Garlan to Nippert. I think Dusty Tits has a chance, but come on.

If the guy is on the bump every 5 days giving you 6-7 innings at a time I would pay that. Just my opinion.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 3, 2008 11:17 PM CDT