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Happy birthday, Luis Vizcaino

Happy birthday to former Ranger Luis Vizcaino, who turns 34 today.

If you didn't realize Vizcaino was a former Ranger, that is understandable (and probably for the best).  He was a Ranger for 5 days, and is yet another regrettable chapter in the legacy of John Hart. 

Vizcaino was acquired by Hart late in spring training in 2002 in exchange for Justin Duchscherer, who Hart found to be expendable because he was a righty who didn't throw hard, and Hart had no use for righthanders who didn't throw hard.

Vizcaino was a solid reliever for the next several years, so that trade would have been okay, except Hart then dealt Vizcaino to the Milwaukee Brewers for Jesus Pena.

Why did all this happen?  Well, Duchscherer needed to go to make room on the 40 man roster for guys like Dan Miceli, Rudy Seanez, Steve Woodard, Rich Rodriguez, Dave Burba and John Rocker, not to mention shiny new free agent acquisitions Todd Van Poppel and Jay Powell. 

(And if you think I'm too leniant on Jon Daniels for letting Armando Galarraga go to make room for Jason Jennings, it may be that my expectations vis-a-vis 40 man roster management were drastically lowered by John Hart that spring.  That was also the spring when Hart had to DFA Andy Pratt because of a procedural error involving recalling Ryan Dittfurth and putting him on the 40 man roster.)

Vizcaino was picked up because Hart felt Vizcaino, a hard throwing reliever, could be packaged with some other pieces to acquire a starting pitcher.  It didn't work, so Vizcaino, was given away for pennies, totally neutralizing the Doug Mirabelli for Justin Duchscherer swindle, in the spiritual precursor to the Esteban German-Fabio Castro-Daniel Haigwood-Scott Shoemaker series of transactions that Daniels pulled off a couple of years ago.

 

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Wait wait

I thought that was J.D.’s fault too?

Plaschke: Scioscia, the former Dodgers catcher, is the model manager who has created an atmosphere of winning.
Junior:It's that simple. Mike Scioscia brings a Glade Plug-In labeled "Winning™" into the clubhouse and everyone who breathes it in gains 15 points in average.

by TheBZA on Aug 6, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

If you ask LBrooks

He would say it was.

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Aug 6, 2008 2:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

A dark chapter in Rangers history

Physician: Primum non nocere

Batter: First, make no out

by Chad Crudup on Aug 6, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

wow

id forgotten how many pitchers came here to die so recently.

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Aug 6, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Are you pulling this stuff out from your memory

or from old archives? That’s ridiculous.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 6, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

unfortunately

i have that part of rangers history scarred into my mind.

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Aug 6, 2008 4:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

me too

I was really into the minor league stuff as well back then (I read the NMLR religiously back then) and was really ticked with that chain of events.

That and the Randy Valarde for Aaron Harang/Ryan Cullen trade (that was a Melvin move) are two that really stick in my mind as ones that I was really unhappy about at the time.

by alon91 on Aug 7, 2008 4:04 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

just thought i'd throw this in here

because it’s not post worthy…

several yankees (including pettitte and jeter) were in OKC today attending the funeral of bobby mercer.

guessing they won’t be too tired from flying seeing as how they flew from love field

http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Aug 6, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Wonder how much air time that gets on ESPN tonight

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 6, 2008 3:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I would have no problem with it

It should get some air play.

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Aug 6, 2008 3:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I hope it does too

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 6, 2008 4:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

it's getting airtime at my station.

and we are tulsa, not okc

http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Aug 6, 2008 4:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

What channel do you work for?

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Aug 6, 2008 4:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

KTUL

abc affiliate
channel 8

http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Aug 6, 2008 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ah memories from my childhood

lol

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Aug 6, 2008 4:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

8's the place

http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Aug 6, 2008 4:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

They have had that slogan

forever.

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Aug 6, 2008 4:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

not for the past several years

now we change it every couple years

oklahoma’s news channel 8
8 on your side
coverage you can count on

http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Aug 6, 2008 4:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

sounds like you guys got bought out

by a big boy, those new slogans sound all too familiar.

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Aug 6, 2008 4:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

albritton

of riggs bank fame. of southern dictator illegal banking fame

http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Aug 6, 2008 4:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

would this be

the first time a guy has pitched a perfect game against an opposing starter who has a perfect game of his own?

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Aug 6, 2008 4:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Karstens went to PIT from NYY in the Nady trade

Looks like he had minimal MLB experience of his own and now is tearing it up… good to see the Rangers aren’t the only one that has that shit happen.

by Inkara1 on Aug 6, 2008 4:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

and he finishes with a 2 hitter

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

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by hinduplaya on Aug 6, 2008 5:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Except....

Nady is actually producing for the Yankees unlike McCarthy or Eaton

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

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by hinduplaya on Aug 6, 2008 4:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

well yes....

but i was mainly bringing up the CY and Danks trade as an example

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

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by hinduplaya on Aug 6, 2008 4:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

So you bring up something

Negative instead of something positive? Here is your glass of half empty vodka go get drunk.

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Aug 6, 2008 4:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

well

the topic of discussion was trades that turn bad.

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Aug 6, 2008 4:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

and...

there have been far more negatives (eaton, mccarthy, hernandez…..) coming back than positives (hamilton) when the Rangers have traded away young pitching…

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

LSB facebook group ---->>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33345329288

by hinduplaya on Aug 6, 2008 4:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well I get that but

You could cherry pick every GM and find bad trades. I’m just saying we should move on. JD has done real well with his recent trades. I don’t want to judge the Danks BMac trade until we see what BMac looks like when healthy. That is all.

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Aug 6, 2008 5:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well

I guess we’ll just wait and see….

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

LSB facebook group ---->>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33345329288

by hinduplaya on Aug 6, 2008 5:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Just now the system is recovering from Hart

just hope JD does not continue with the bad moves, he has already in several cases, but would have to go a long way to being as bad as Hart, I still have nightmares. lol

by TRFAN on Aug 6, 2008 4:18 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs


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