Minors - 08/06
by LiamP
on Aug 6, 2008 6:46 PM CDT
Spokane - 8:30 (all times CST) - Pimentel (!)
Clinton - 7:00 - Main (!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Bakersfield - 9:00 - Holland (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Frisco - 7:00 - Hodges
OKC already played. Kam Loe got beat around, JMJ went 0-4 with 2k, Chris Shelton homered. Nothing exciting.
As an aside, anyone feel like taking a shot at the Rangers' organizational prospect depth chart on Sickels' site? Maybe it could be a collective effort.
see: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2008/7/29/582140/organizational-prospect-de
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Dutch and Main...
should be a fun night.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 6, 2008 6:50 PM CDT 0 recs
no feliz?? :(
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 6, 2008 7:04 PM CDT 0 recs
J. Parks conducted a great interview with Richard Bleier
You can check that out here:
http://mvn.com/mlb-rangers/2008/08/06/prospect-interview-series-richard-bleier/
Two good innings early from Main.
by jamcadbury on Aug 6, 2008 7:42 PM CDT 0 recs
Great article
JParks doing good asking some high-level as well as technical questions.
Interesting what he had to say about Perez. If bad outings can roll off his back like Bleier intimated, he’ll be well on his way to gaining that Major league mentality. Hopefully his abilities will follow suit.
What's the rumpus?
by Hypo-Luxa on
Aug 6, 2008 8:13 PM CDT
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Main vs Holland
With the promotions of Hurley, Harrison, and Hunter; the innings reduction for Feliz; and the injuries to Gomez and Castillo, the starting pitching attractions in the Rangers minor league system are not what they were a month ago. With that said, the Main/Holland double-feature that has played the last two weeks is as good as it gets. Personally, I think that these two guys rank #2 and #3 among the Rangers’ minor league pitchers as they both have three potentially plus pitches, get K’s in bunches, have sterling ERAs, and are reportedly very good athletes.
Last week’s double feature provided the following blockbuster results:
Main – 6 IP, 3H, 1R, 1ER, 0BB, and 4SO
Holland – 6IP, 3H, 0R, 0ER, 1BB, and 5SO
2008 stats for the minor league aces:
Main (@Clinton) – 19.2 IP, 18H, 6BB, 15SO, 1.83 ERA
Main (Overall) – 33 IP, 26H, 11BB, 30 SO, 2.48 ERA
Holland (@Bakersfield) – 26IP, 14H, 4 BB, 29SO, 2.08 ERA
Holland (Overall) – 119.2 IP, 91H, 33BB, 120SO, 2.33 ERA
by spurdynasty on Aug 6, 2008 7:46 PM CDT 0 recs
Main
I’ve always been partial to Main in the beavan-Main tandem and he isn’t doing anything to disappoint. I wonder where Main would be if he’d have started the season healthy. With Holland in BAK? Ah well…
What's the rumpus?
by Hypo-Luxa on
Aug 6, 2008 8:07 PM CDT
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Main through 4 innings
3H, 1BB, 4SO, and 0ER. His ERA in 5 starts at Clinton – 1.66.
With Beavan and Main fronting their rotation, Clinton should be a tough out in the MWL playoffs next month.
by spurdynasty on
Aug 6, 2008 8:13 PM CDT
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Main
Had he started the season healthy he would be in Bakersfield right now. And based on how he has performed I would say its a good bet he would be in line to start next season in Frisco if he had been healthy all year
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Aug 6, 2008 8:15 PM CDT
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Best thing about Main
Is being the best fielder on the field. In todays game 2 on with no out. Bunt attempt, charged by Main, throw to 3rd to get guy out. How many pitchers do you see do that.
by gamerabcd on
Aug 6, 2008 8:24 PM CDT
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How about...
Warner Madrigal! hehe
I will tell you one thing…I lived in Houston during their glory years (‘90’s and early ‘00’s) and it was a joy to watch Mike Hampton pitch for them. That guy was an athlete on the mound and at the plate. Don’t know if Main will be another Owings at the plate when we play InterLeague but it will be another interesting dimension to look out for.
What's the rumpus?
by Hypo-Luxa on
Aug 6, 2008 9:34 PM CDT
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Main
6ip/4h/0r/2bb/6k
I’m assuming he’s done for the night. What a stud.
by LiamP on Aug 6, 2008 8:53 PM CDT 0 recs
Damn
Has he had a bad start since turning pro? I think he might have had one or two rough outings last year, but wow.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on
Aug 6, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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Only issue after injury was control
Since then he has been in the zone.
by gamerabcd on
Aug 6, 2008 8:57 PM CDT
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*drool*
"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno
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by hinduplaya on
Aug 6, 2008 9:14 PM CDT
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Great line...
It’s so nice to see the young pitching doing what it has done this year. Very exciting.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on
Aug 7, 2008 2:02 AM CDT
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Organizational chart
OK i’ll just throw some names out there. Feel free to add descriptions and others if you like.
Catcher
Max Ramirez
Taylor Teagarden
Manuel Pina
Christian Santana
Jose Felix
1B
Chris Davis
Justin Smoak
Mitch Moreland
2B
German Duran
Jose Vallejo
Renny Osuna
SS
Elvis Andrus
Marcus Lemon
Ed Koncel?
3B
Johnny Whittleman
Jonathan Greene
Matt West
OF
John Mayberry Jr
Julio Borbon
Engel Beltre
Micheal Bianucci
David Paisano
Pitchers: Heres where it gets good
Eric Hurley
Matt Harrison
Tommy Hunter
Warner Madrigal
Thomas Diamond
Neftali Feliz
Beau Jones
Andrew Laughter
Derek Holland
Omar Poveda
Kasey Kiker
Blake Beavan
Micheal Main
Fabio Castillo
Wilfredo Boscan
Martin Perez
Richard Bleier
Carlos Pimental
Tim Murphy
Neil Ramirez
Wilmer Font
Robbie Ross
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 6, 2008 9:03 PM CDT 0 recs
Wow
Man our farm system is loaded.
Keep an eye on Pina
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on
Aug 6, 2008 9:07 PM CDT
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Santana is more of OF
Yet also a solid bench guy, as has been 1b coach on days he was off.
by gamerabcd on
Aug 6, 2008 9:14 PM CDT
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Wow
Took the above comment and added some numbers for the younger guys. I should have added home runs and go/ao, but I’m not looking them all back up. These are cumulative stats for this year through today
Eric Hurley
Matt Harrison
Tommy Hunter
Warner Madrigal
Thomas Diamond
Neftali Feliz 20 y/o Righty IP: 105 ERA: 2.39 BB: 28 K’s: 106 AVG: .193 AA
Beau Jones 21 y/o Lefty IP: 49 ERA: 2.54 BB: 24 K’s: 49 AVG: .234 AA
Andrew Laughter 23 y/o Righty IP: 51 ERA: 2.10 BB: 14 K’s: 36 AVG: .217 AA
Derek Holland 21 y/o Lefty IP: 119 ERA: 2.33 BB: 29 K’s: 91 AVG: .228 A+
Omar Poveda 20 y/o Righty IP: 60 ERA: 5.93 BB: 25 K’s: 64 AVG: .261 A+
Kasey Kiker 20 y/o Lefty IP: 97 ERA: 4.52 BB: 27 K’s: 84 AVG: .288 A+
Kennil Gomez 20 y/o Righty IP: 88 ERA: 2.97 BB: 20 K’s: 70 AVG: .232 A
Blake Beavan 19 y/o Righty IP: 96 ERA: 2.42 BB: 16 K’s: 51 AVG: .233 A
Micheal Main 19 y/o Righty IP: 31 ERA: 2.61 BB: 11 K’s: 28 AVG: .224 A
Fabio Castillo 19 y/o Righty IP: 73 ERA: 5.50 BB: 34 K’s: 61 AVG: .258 A
Wilfredo Boscan 18 y/o Righty IP: 43 ERA: 2.49 BB: 8 K’s: 43 AVG: .242 Short Season A
Martin Perez 17 y/o Lefty IP: 36 ERA: 5.20 BB: 16 K’s: 31 AVG: .309 Short Season A
Richard Bleier 21 y/o Lefty IP: 44 ERA: 4.03 BB: 9 K’s: 30 AVG: .240 Short Season A
Carlos Pimental 18 y/o Righty IP: 38 ERA: 4.42 BB: 24 K’s: 29 AVG: .224 Short Season A
Tim Murphy 21 y/o Lefty IP: 27 ERA: 2.30 BB: 11 K’s: 33 AVG: .160 Short Season A
Neil Ramirez 19 y/o Righty IP: 24 ERA: 3.70 BB: 17 K’s: 28 AVG: .167 Short Season A
Wilmer Font
Robbie Ross
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by B_Black on
Aug 6, 2008 10:13 PM CDT
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Damn...
Just damn. I mean other than 3rd base this system is just loaded. Could use a little more power potential in the OF as well.
The pitching that is coming is off the charts.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on
Aug 7, 2008 2:05 AM CDT
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Pina is supposed to be the best defensive catcher in the system
Already hitting .294 in Double A.
by gamerabcd on Aug 6, 2008 9:12 PM CDT 0 recs
wondering
I was wondering what effect Pina’s development will have on the Rangers catching decision. Is it out of the question to keep Laird? He is entering his prime, arguably above average defensively, knows the Rangers pitching staff. Would they sign him to a 3 yr deal? I know Boras is his agent but Gerald hasn’t gotten a muli-year deal yet. He could be willing to sign a 3yr/9M deal? (I just threw out those numbers. I have no idea what a fair deal would be for him.)
"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch
by RangerMad on
Aug 6, 2008 10:44 PM CDT
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Why would the Rangers do that?
The other catchers are probably all signed for less than that, longer than that and have more upside than Laird.
by hiafex on
Aug 6, 2008 10:53 PM CDT
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Laird
He has three more years of Arb and Boras isn’t known for signing any kind of pre-arb deals. Also with the Rangers catching situation it would make sense for them to just go year to year with Laird and not get locked into anything long term.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on
Aug 6, 2008 10:59 PM CDT
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Lucas' site
says he has 2 arb years left. He signed for $1.6M this year.
http://rangers.scottlucas.com/site/40man.htm
"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch
by RangerMad on
Aug 6, 2008 11:03 PM CDT
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Yea
Sorry just checked Cots could have sworn he had 3 years left.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on
Aug 6, 2008 11:35 PM CDT
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Teixeira
Pretty sure he signed a 2 year deal with the rangers before the 06 season when he became arb eligible….
by jcir454 on
Aug 6, 2008 11:28 PM CDT
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Yea
I guess I should have expanded that and said Boras doesn’t allow free agent years to be bought out at any kind of discount to the club.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on
Aug 6, 2008 11:39 PM CDT
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Just about to post that.
At Lancaster, even.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on
Aug 6, 2008 9:30 PM CDT
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True test
After 2 times against worst hitting team in league
by gamerabcd on
Aug 6, 2008 9:31 PM CDT
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That park
scares me. They need a friggin humidor! I can’t wait ‘til the Rangers get the heck out of Bakersfield
What's the rumpus?
by Hypo-Luxa on
Aug 6, 2008 9:35 PM CDT
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Well let him get used to it
Frisco is a better park in general, but the wind and heat will have same factors when he lets the ball go up.
by gamerabcd on
Aug 6, 2008 9:40 PM CDT
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Holland pitching with a plan tonight
Obviously, he decided that the best way to pitch against the best-hitting team in the Cal League in the best hitter’s park in the US is to simply strike everyone out. 7 K’s in 9 plate appearances by the opposition. He’s getting ahead with the fastball and striking guys out with the high fastball or change-up. If you’re not excited about this guy, then you’re just not paying attention!
by spurdynasty on
Aug 6, 2008 9:50 PM CDT
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Great announcer for the Blaze game
Something very American Graffiti. Lot of enthusiasm.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 6, 2008 9:40 PM CDT 0 recs
Parks might've called it
We may be seeing Holland in Frisco this season.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2008/7/31/584112/minors-07-31#7805807
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 6, 2008 9:50 PM CDT 0 recs
I talked to Holland on fb today
and wished him luck. He seemed excited.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Aug 6, 2008 9:55 PM CDT 0 recs
and here i am, talking to you
so you could say I talked to Holland too!
Awesome.
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by willamos2 on
Aug 6, 2008 9:56 PM CDT
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lol
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Aug 6, 2008 9:58 PM CDT
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Not a good 4th inning for Holland
5 runs on 5 hits ans a walk so far. Only 2 outs as I type
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 6, 2008 10:17 PM CDT 0 recs
well
he’s now at 5ip and he’s given up 5 runs
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by hinduplaya on Aug 6, 2008 10:35 PM CDT 0 recs
Sweet
Now we can put his HOF plaque on hold.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on
Aug 6, 2008 11:01 PM CDT
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some farm krappiness
Beltre and Borbon hitless
Matt Thompson shelled in his debut
Holland gets Lancastered [actually he was flaired to death]
Tim Murphy ejected from the Spokane game
Fabio’s encouraging run of success derailed
by shroomer on Aug 6, 2008 11:16 PM CDT 0 recs
some farm awesomeness
Elvis went 2-5 with a homer.
Main was terrific again.
Holland struck out the world’s population before getting boned a bit.
Pimentel was good.
Bianucci hit his 2nd homer in 2 games.
by LiamP on
Aug 6, 2008 11:21 PM CDT
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Murphy
What did he get tossed for? I saw that he got ejected before he even threw a pitch. The manager was tossed as well.
by uthornfan on
Aug 7, 2008 12:15 AM CDT
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West was plunked the half inning before
it looks like Murphy was trying to payback plunk the next opponent batter and missed him – resulting in a pre-emptive toss for throwing at a batter. Something like that.
by shroomer on
Aug 7, 2008 12:30 AM CDT
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Holland learned a lesson?
You can’t strike out every batter who comes to the plate. It appears he was killing ‘em, and didn’t stick to his game plan.
Good learning experience for Mr. Dutch.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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by Rodney on
Aug 7, 2008 10:05 AM CDT
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i still think
he ends the season with a couple starts in Frisco.
by clark on
Aug 7, 2008 11:01 AM CDT
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playoffs
I hope so. They could use some pitching for the playoffs.
"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch
by RangerMad on
Aug 7, 2008 11:04 AM CDT
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Feliz and Holland
would be a nice one two punch in the playoffs. I agree.
by clark on
Aug 7, 2008 11:25 AM CDT
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August promotions?
Considering folks deserving a promotion in Clinton are not being promoted to maintain their playoff roster, it would seem that post-ASB promotions are now eschewed within the org. to preserve a “winning” culture (whatever that means). So I would expect that there are no more promotions this year, Holland, or whoever, that isn’t motivated by injury. Does anyone know if this is a change from previous years?
by Goyogringo on Aug 7, 2008 12:59 AM CDT 0 recs
Holland
might get the move to Frisco for their playoff run. I assume most of the guys in Spokane, and Clinton will stay put for their respective playoff runs. Does anyone know if the AZ league has playoffs and if the Rangers are in right now?
by Hull Fan on
Aug 7, 2008 3:17 PM CDT
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