Saturday morning things
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 9, 2008 10:02 AM CDT
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I hate games in Baltimore. There is no team less interesting than the Orioles, and the games start at 6 p.m., which is too early. Games that result in a 9-1 loss in Baltimore are about the worst of all.
Luis Mendoza struggled again with his command. Same story with him all year...when he can command his offspeed stuff, he has success. When he can't, he gets hammered. Jeff Wilson says injuries are contributing significantly to the Rangers' offensive problems.
In injured pitcher news, C.J. Wilson is weighing whether to have surgery now, or try to pitch with the bone spurs until after the season. Brandon McCarthy has been activated from the 60 day d.l. and optioned to Oklahoma, which puts the 40 man roster at 40. And Kevin Millwood is making a rehab start tonight for Frisco.
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Yep
They are intolerably boring to watch. Makes for a quicker change of the channel than most games.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 9, 2008 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or...
you fast forward through the entire damn game because it sucked so much.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 9, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orioles
For a spell, I lived in the DC area. You are correct. What a bland, blah franchise they have become. I think Baltimore was the 6th largest city in the USA in 1900. Now? Who nows, who cares.
Go Jon D, go.
by 3Bagger on Aug 9, 2008 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JD's job has never been on the line in my opinion
During his tenure as GM here.
But I think for the first time this offseason his job is on the line. If we break opening day next year with ANYTHING close to this shitty of a rotation, I would really consider firing him.
Besides that he is boy band awesome.
by SaltyGoesYard on Aug 9, 2008 10:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
I've never seen a pitcher with "bone spur" issues throw 96 mph. The only spurs I'm aware of are the spurs that Wash has buried in C J's ass as he rides him. I love ya C J but welcome to Wash's DOGHOUSE.
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by LAMuscleFag on Aug 9, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on what is out there.
Better work like a son of a bitch to sign Sheets or Sabathia though.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 9, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
I was reading in the New York Post today Manny wants to sign with the Yankees next year and stick it to the Sox. The Yankees are also going to go hard after CC and Teixiera with 87 million being freed up from their 2008 payroll. I’d be happy just getting Sheets.
I've never seen a pitcher with "bone spur" issues throw 96 mph. The only spurs I'm aware of are the spurs that Wash has buried in C J's ass as he rides him. I love ya C J but welcome to Wash's DOGHOUSE.
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by LAMuscleFag on Aug 9, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be happier than a pig in shit to get Sheets
If Millwood can stay healthy (hell, maybe by now he can’t anymore… I don’t know…) You’d be looking at Sheets (if he, too, can stay healthy), Padilla, Millwood, McCarthy, and Hurley/Feldman. If McCarthy gets his shit together this offseason, that’s should be a significant upgrade from this year.
It shouldn’t stop there though. This team needs bullpen help too…. starting with a situational lefty. Where are you, Ron Mahay!!!!!!!
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 9, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that'll work!
yeh Mayday Mahay…come home! Maybe we can pry him from the Royals or wherever he is.. unless he’s a FA at the end of this year, he’s getting a lit’l “long in the tooth” though.
I've never seen a pitcher with "bone spur" issues throw 96 mph. The only spurs I'm aware of are the spurs that Wash has buried in C J's ass as he rides him. I love ya C J but welcome to Wash's DOGHOUSE.
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by LAMuscleFag on Aug 9, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They can only sign two of those guys
You can only sign two Type A FAs in one offseason
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 9, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what exactly do you say to Ben Sheets to convince him to come to Texas?
...if i’m his agent, i’d be pretty concerned about letting him sign with a team that can’t keep it’s pitching staff healthy.
by oc on Aug 9, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't keep it's pitching staff healthy.....
I think that’s more a series of unfortunate events than a reflection on the training staff. Sheets could conceivably win a shitload of games in Texas based on the run support he could receive… although the defense leaves something to be desired. With the right moves, this team could be a playoff contender, which is attractive to free agents. You’re not talking about the Pirates or Nationals here. The team is a pretty close knit group, which is also a plus.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 9, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(shakes head)
...i wanted to believe that we’d be able to buy him off… or at the very least persuade him that we were one dominant pitcher away from contending… that he was the final piece of the puzzle…
but, i think the heat, the poor results with our strength and condition staff, (he being injury-proned himself) and the fact that we’ll throw the bank at him out of desperation are enough convince him to look for a job elsewhere.
by oc on Aug 9, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're overestimating the heat
compared to other factors. If the Rangers’ offer is met by someone else, like the Yankees, Red Sox, Cardinals, Dodgers, etc, then I could see him going elsewhere. If Texas outbids everyone else, I think Sheets opportunity for personal success and the Rangers’ debatable chance of team success outweights the weather.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 9, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*outweighs
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 9, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no way in a Hellish day in Texas
That any Star Free Agent Pitcher is going to consider signing with the Rangers because it is well known what this franchise does to pitching, it eats it alive…see Millwood, I bet he regrets signing here.
This Stadium and this Hellish heat destroys decent pitchers, only exceptional ones can survive.
So, if a pitcher wants to see his career go to Hell..See Millwoood, they may come to DFW.
The best way to fix the pitching problem, is to build a roof on the Helldome, and get rid of that wind factor altogether, and use AC. Also, people might actually consider going to games again. I remember well how my daughter would stay in the bathroom cause it had AC, and they didn’t want to go to anymore games.
by SanDiegoKev on Aug 9, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny how Atlanta
Has had great pitchers over the last 14 years and it is know as Hotlanta. Helling and Sele weren’t great pitchers but they some how pitched well here as did Rogers.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on Aug 9, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Millwood
I think Millwood’s age and conditioning has more to do with his performance than anything else. The heat didn’t seem to bother Kenny Rigers.
"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch
by RangerMad on Aug 9, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pitching
don’t forget Brown. He was pretty good here also. A head case but a pretty decent pitcher. I would like a roof on the Temple if not for the pitchers sake then my sake.
¡yo soy Horsedooty!
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Aug 9, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You keep alluding to Millwood
it’s well documented he was lax in the offseason training before 2007 (to put it VERY nicely) and he’s getting long in the tooth. You can’t say no free agent pitcher is going to come here just because the hellish heat destroyed a pitcher on the backside of his career. Generally, the failure of Ranger pitching is related directly to talent, not to temperature or a stadium.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 9, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
But there is a perception out there that Arlington Eats Pitching, and I’m sure many free agents avoid the place because of this. Certainly, if you offer enough money, anybody would come here, but it’s not Hick’s nature to overpay too often.
by SanDiegoKev on Aug 9, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why should we let a one-pitch pitcher start for us again?
by oc on Aug 9, 2008 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i know
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, he had a good curve that one start
you know… out of 10.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Aug 9, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a good, sinking 93-94 mph fastball
And a good hard breaking ball. His issue is command. He should be in AAA working on his command issues.
The fact that he has been pressed into service up here, and is struggling, doesn’t mean he sucks
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 9, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
needs major improvement in command within 2 months of his 25th birthday to succeed
thats a pretty big obstacle.
some pitchers actually do suck. at least on the relative terms of major league baseball.
if we were just a league average pitching staff that didn’t have to start him out of necessity, mendoza would be so buried among prospects….
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Aug 9, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is...
...he switched his repertoire in the middle of last season. He’s been throwing, in particular, the sinker, for only about 13 months now.
If he can improve his breaking ball command, he can be a solid major league starter. If not, he still could be an asset in the bullpen as a Jason Grimsley type.
I just find the proclamations that he sucks and he’s worthless and will never be any good pretty over the top…particularly when we’ve seen flashes of dominance from him.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 9, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A pitcher with poor control getting destroyed on a routine basis is
going to get poor reviews.
Look, anyone can like a player and see more than others in him. Give an i told you so speech if he succeeds (for more than 1 start).
But come on, a plain assessment of whats on the field is that luis mendoza sucks. It just is. He’s made 13 starts as a ranger. 1 meets the “quality start” standard. His stuff is decent with his new pitch, but its not great.
If you looked at long line of pitchers with his track record including adding a new pitch at the same age, I doubt the rate of success is much to look at. Do you really think the odds are in his favor to be in a major league rotation in 2 years? Do you think they are as good or better than the higher ranked prospects that have struggled (for less time though..) and not gotten as much critcism?
Now, the bullpen? Sure, worth a shot.
If mendoza finds his control and becomes a decent starter, its not like people will deny it. But until then, I think he sucks.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Aug 9, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine
You win. He sucks. Let’s release him.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 9, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2/3 right
Never said we should release him.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Aug 9, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
Never said we should release him.
I’m confused then. If he sucks, he shouldn’t be taking up space on the 25 or 40 man roster. Release him and bring up Derek Lee or someone to be a placeholder.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 9, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GORDON!
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Now, the bullpen? Sure, worth a shot"
1) We don’t the league average pitching staff I mentioned earlier. With our injuries and available options, he probably should be in the rotation at this particular moment.
2) Sucks in the rotation, but a lot of people who have sucked in the rotation hve been decent bullpen arms. I wouldn’t be committed to him for years, but I’d give him a shot.
I don’t think my line of argument warrants sarcasm and exaggeration.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Aug 9, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you understand
That’s all he knows.
by brettgardner on Aug 9, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
I've never seen a pitcher with "bone spur" issues throw 96 mph. The only spurs I'm aware of are the spurs that Wash has buried in C J's ass as he rides him. I love ya C J but welcome to Wash's DOGHOUSE.
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by LAMuscleFag on Aug 9, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luis Mendoza
has a 48% LOB%. The league average is around 70. That’s the reason his ERA is so high, and not around Scott FEldman’s #s right now.
He gives up too many line-drives, but is pretty good in getting ground balls. If that control comes, he’ll be a pretty good starter.
by FirebatM3 on Aug 9, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not all about the control
If you watched yesterday, he wasn’t getting ground balls or swing and misses with his sinker… because his 4 seamer looked more like a 2 seamer, when he hasn’t been good it’s been that way… just look at the video of the sinker when he pitched in relief vs the Astros or his great game vs the White Sox, its a whole different pitch than we saw yesterday.
by tyd3311 on Aug 9, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is probably because
he doesn’t have that much experience with the sinker. 13 months and he’s throwing it in the big leagues. In a year like this you have to let young guys take their lumps and hope one or two of them figure it out.
by FirebatM3 on Aug 9, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
take their lumps?
hes had 10 starts this year, one quality start and all the others were just horrible its not like they were a little below average, they were all bombs
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the others were just horrible?
Not really. There was the 7 IP, 4 run outing that was pretty good. He had some other okay ones in there.
He’s also had some disastrous ones, but let’s not act like every single start other than the 8 K game was a bomb.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 9, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well 7ip one was the only non-bomb i can think of
its not like he was dominant in that one. against the blue jays, 4 runs in 7
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would you
trade Mendoza for Galarraga? Oh, and when are his “real” numbers going to get in-line with his peripherals?
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on Aug 9, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
Adam or anyone else here has ever said they’d choose Mendoza over Galarraga. Nor has Adam or anyone else here ever argued that Galarraga is the worst pitcher in baseball, just that his long term outlook is not as good as his number right now seem to indicate.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 10, 2008 5:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1.75 whip
That is horrible. He allows entirely too many baserunners.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
by tricer on Aug 9, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
FIP of 5.27, xFIP of 4.74.
That’s not great, but it suggests his pitching better than his ERA indicates.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 9, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would that be true
of most SP that have a lousy bullpen behind them?
"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch
by RangerMad on Aug 9, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i havent seen any dominance, hes worthless
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of like most of your post
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on Aug 9, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait, hes not completely worthless
he is a good high-fiveing partner for kinsler
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Although I think he should be in the bullpen, not the rotation.
But then again, who else are we gonna start up here? With Hurley and Millwood on the DL, we don’t really have any other options for the rotation at this point, unless you swap Mendoza for Nippert. Which sounds like a fun idea, but based on the Nippert I saw yesterday that’s not much of an improvement.
We need to hire Chuck Norris to kick the ass of any Ranger fan caught booing one of our young pitchers at the RBiA.
by lonestarJon on Aug 9, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sinker
Isn’t the same sinker we saw in relief vs the Astros, and also another appearance….
Sometimes the sinker looks great, but in his last two really bad starts, I could see he was doomed because the sinker didn’t look like the same sinker at all.
by tyd3311 on Aug 9, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should be released
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if JD releases him
and he goes some where else and gets it together you will bitch about how stupid JD was for releasing him.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on Aug 9, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no i wouldnt because he will never have success anywhere
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be pretty hard to imagine
Galarraga going on to be an above avreage major league starter when the season started, would it have not?
"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08
by badradiorules on Aug 9, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he had no where near mendoza's number of bad outings
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he was talkin about galarraga's starts from last year
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in which he had one
Mendoza had 3 with an ERA of 2.25
by tyd3311 on Aug 9, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is tryin to make the point that armando had bad starts like mendoza
when that never happened. mendoza has had horrible ones and armando only had one
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are talking about
coming into this year….................................................................
by tyd3311 on Aug 9, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
why not just keep both mendoza and galarraga instead of trading galarraga for hernandez who isnt even in our system
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and one of those starts, he left in the second inning...
...after Swisher hit a liner right back at him.
by oc on Aug 9, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't think Galarraga...
....is an above-average major league starter.
He’s a 26 year old journeyman who has had a nice run, thanks to an exceedingly low BABIP.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 9, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either way
He’s BEEN an above-average major league starter. I don’t think that anybody who watched him last year would have believed it. I think that Mendoza showed better stuff down the stretch last year. If you think dropping Galarraga was a bad idea, then you shouldn’t think that DFAing Mendoza is a good idea.
"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08
by badradiorules on Aug 9, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't understand how Mendoza went from being a 'meh' Double-A prospect to being a legit Major League starter...
by oc on Aug 9, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It had a lot to do
with him developing that sinker about 10 starts into last year. He opened some eyes with the success that he had with it. It obviously hasn’t been nearly consistent enough this year. However, I remember it being really good last September.
"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08
by badradiorules on Aug 9, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think 26
Is a little young to get the “journeyman” label, no?
by sggut95 on Aug 9, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HIs average fastball velocity is 91.3
not 93 or 94
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
by tricer on Aug 9, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't the majority of his success predicated on the effectiveness of his sinker?
sure the guy can throw other pitches… but, that’s his one.
(channelling old barbershop man in Coming To America)
THAT’S THEY ONE!
by oc on Aug 9, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that the case with most pitchers?
Most pitchers have one pitcher they throw the majority of the time, that their success is predicated on.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 9, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Relievers, most of the time
Good starting pitchers, no way. I can’t think of anyone outside of Carmona or Wang who are heavily reliant on one pitch as a starter. I haven’t seen Mendoza be anywhere near those guys with his sinker.
"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08
by badradiorules on Aug 9, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
Look at how many pitchers throw their fastball at least 60% of the time:
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=4&season=2008&month=0
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 9, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my mind
It goes much deeper than how often you throw a pitch. Obviously, most guys are going to pitch off of their fastball. I would think that somewhere around 60% would be the average. Most guys throw a fastball about 3 out of 5 pitches. That doesn’t tell the whole story.
What happens on those two pitches. If they are consistently bad, then all the hitter has to focus on is the fastball. Very few guys in the big leagues have the kind of fastball to survive that. If you can plant it in the hitter’s mind that you have a decent second or third pitch that you can throw for strikes, that makes the fastball better, even if you aren’t really throwing that pitch more than 35% of the time or so.
Obviously, there are guys on that list that (that throw their fastball more than 2/3 of the time) can compete if they only have their good fastball. Most of those guys (Cabrera, Padilla, Jiminez, Pelfrey, Jackson, even Beckett) have a history of being very inconsistent. It’s only when they can throw another pitch for a strike when they are good to dominant.
Other guys on that list (L. Hernandez, Silva and Hendrickson) might want to looking into throwing something else. While for guys like Cook, Lee and Maddux the term fastball is pretty broad. They are going to give you a lot of different looks with their fastballs.
"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08
by badradiorules on Aug 9, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
and notice Vinny Padz up there at 75% and my personal favorie pitcher in the whole wide world throwing his 88mph sinker 69.6% of the time and succeeding like the freaking jackal that he is.
btw, I freaking love Fangraphs.com.
What a cool site.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 9, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This reminds me
of last year when everyone wanted to DFA Feldman because he was never going to be any good. Mendoza - and EVERY other young pitcher they bring up - deserves a LONG stint in the rotation to prove whether or not they can adapt. Ideally Mendoza, Hunter, and Harrison would be working on this stuff in AAA right now, but injuries make that impossible.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on Aug 9, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Feldman was still throwing sidearm
a DFA would probably have been likely by now.
He is a whole new pitcher.
by tyd3311 on Aug 9, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I was thinking...
with everyone bashing Mendoza this year. Reminds me of Feldman last year (and I was one of those doing it, I won’t do it again this year).
Look, the guy has ok stuff, but he should be in AAA right now with Hunter, Harrison, and maybe even Hurley. All of these guys got rushed to the majors this year because of injuries, and injuries to the replacements as well. If guys like Mathis and Murray were abe to stay healthy then Harrison and Hunter would still be at OKC. Shit happens. The Rangers have to throw someone on the bump every 5th day. Mendoza is not a good ML pitcher right now but there are no other alteratives.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 9, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing . . .
just a fun sample:
Am I in the twilight zone? Scott Feldman is the worst pitcher we have. That includes rookie ball all the way to the majors, and also includes the future pictures we are going to draft in the 2008 draft.
Cut him? Hell, lets kill him.by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 9, 2008 6:34 PM CST actions 0 recs
+ 1 He’s horrible! It was painful to watch him pitch last year he was bound to f*ck things up and almost always did. I was starting to wonder if he and Wash were lovers. Not only that but he punches worse then a girl with that sissy underhand weaksister punch – he’s got to go !
“I was inclined to give Clemens the benefit of the doubt until he started talking in circles” Evan Grant
by NYCMuscleFag on Jan 9, 2008 6:50 PM CST up actions 0 recs
by Randy Richardson on Aug 9, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is a brand new pitcher
Not the same anyone watched last year.
The sidearm Feldman was DFA’d for the 3 quarter slot Feldman.
by tyd3311 on Aug 9, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is he not a one-pitch pitcher when he only throws one pitch for strike
i dont see how like mendoza but dont like murphy?
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he should go back to the glasses
"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno
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by hinduplaya on Aug 9, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that pic he looks like that stupid asian kid who always tries to steal my wieght bench at the gym
despite the fact that weight-room etiquette clearly dictates that if I leave my towel on the bench while I walk the twenty feet to the water fountain in between sets I’m still in control of the bench so it’s not cool to run up and start changing out the weights you fucking douche baggy kid that I hate so much!
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by thedirkatron on Aug 9, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we start mendoza one more time then im not gonna watch
he is just plain bad and he will never be good
yesterday had to be the worst game ever. playing baltimore,mendoza starts, no kinser,bradley, or murphy. and the only run was a metcalf homer
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 11:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
he is just plain bad and he will never be good
Do you really think that or are you knee jerking?
Mendoza has a slew of control problems right now, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a shot at developing into a good pitcher somewhere down the line. He’s got good stuff, it’s a matter of him learning to harness it. I’m not trying to say he’ll be Cy Young or that he’ll even continue to start (I’m hoping our other SP prospects will push him out of the starting equation eventually), but he could still wind up a valuable peice in the bullpen or as a swingman – he has a .79 ERA as a reliever in the majors.
by JimBonnick84 on Aug 9, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, so put him in the bullpen
i realy dont think he will ever be good. he has a good sinker that he can’t even command or sometimes get in the zone. he has an average curveball that he cant get over the plate for his life and thats pretty much it. he relies on pitch, you cant do that and be successful in the major leagues. he is just another kameron loe
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by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I'm not gonna watch"...
promise not to post as well then.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 9, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your really funny, how did you ever think of that one??????
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by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not trying to be funny...
Your posts are just brutal. You should make a lot less of them.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 9, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"if we start mendoza one more time then im not gonna..."
...post here ever again??
Please???
Go Mendoza! Start again tonight!!!!!!!!!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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by Rodney on Aug 9, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson
Why is HE weighing anything? It shouldn’t be up to him at all.
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by DaheelzCM on Aug 9, 2008 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's his arm
I think it IS up to him.
And you can rest easy, from the people I’ve talked to, he won’t be pitching again this season.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"If I buy this team, Chris Davis will end up suing me for sexual harassment." - Me
"Oh, but it will be worth it. a few million to you at that point will be pocket change." - LAMuscleFag
by baseballismyboyfriend on Aug 9, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Son of a bitch
Im already pissed off, for the next two weeks you can’t even look at ESPN or Foxsports, or any damn sports site if you have any interest of staying unaware of Olympic results untill they air them.
Already caught some shit trying to avoid it. These sites need to specifically keep all coverage in a special area that you have to willingly click on if you want to find out results.
by SaltyGoesYard on Aug 9, 2008 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cbssportsline
Is doing a good job they have them on a drop down page.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on Aug 9, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
sportsline just spoiled the Phelps results just by going to their main page. Both them and espn are being shitty about this.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
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by SarasotaRanger on Aug 9, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well damn you are right
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on Aug 9, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its pretty obvious...
That the Byrd grand slam will be the pinnacle of the year for this team.
My guess is we finish right at .500 if not a few games below.
by clinton33 on Aug 9, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i would be happy with that
with all of the injuries and the AA pitchers pitching in the MLB, that would be pretty good
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by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's gonna take more
than a 3 game losing streak to convince me of that…
by tyd3311 on Aug 9, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
convince u of what
you think mendoza,hunter, and harrison should be up here?
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by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
I been gone a while so I am not up to date on my Ranger news. Is Andy Hawkins our new pitching coach and Jim Colburn the new bullpen coach?
by coolaid on Aug 9, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Si
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"If I buy this team, Chris Davis will end up suing me for sexual harassment." - Me
"Oh, but it will be worth it. a few million to you at that point will be pocket change." - LAMuscleFag
by baseballismyboyfriend on Aug 9, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
andy hawkins got fired after mendoza pitched last night
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by Steal Home on Aug 9, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Millar and Roberts
How come we can’t get those cats out? Seems like they kill the Rangers every series.
I can understand Roberts to some extent, but Millar?
by T Coleman on Aug 9, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
from the FWST blog...
Rangers fans voted most loyalSeriously. Forbes magazine put together a formula that determined that the Rangers’ fans are the most loyal in baseball. Don’t believe me? Here’s the link:
The key to the magazine crowning Rangers faithful first - higher than fans of the Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, Cardinals and everyone else - is that attendance hasn’t declined much from the club’s heyday to present day.
To quote the article, “No team’s attendance is less tied to its on the field performance than the Rangers’, and nowhere else in the country do fans peel off at a slower rate when the club has thin years.
(Of course, had owner Tom Hicks studied the attendance numbers a little closer back in 2001, he might not have offered what has come to be known as the worst contract in baseball history.)”
Let’s take an informal poll: Who thinks the study is accurate, and who thinks it’s a joke?
by tyd3311 on Aug 9, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
when I think of "loyal" fans...
...I think of fans that are informed and passionate about their team. Not sure that using attendance data is a good way to measure the loyalty of fans.
In other words, I think the Rangers have a good market in which to sell tickets. I don’t think they have the most loyal fan base. Not by a long shot.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
by tricer on Aug 9, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
It’s Forbes. Written by a beancounter, for beancounters. Never mind the emotional or geographic ties, just look at the ratios.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Aug 9, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ARod contract was not bad at all
I can’t take anyone seriously when they think it has become known as the worst contract in league history. That’s just beyond dumb.
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by thedirkatron on Aug 9, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Concur
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 9, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone think
Guardado will work out as closer? I know he’s been throwing well in a setup role, but… well, I’m a little leery.
by sggut95 on Aug 9, 2008 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Depends what you mean by "work out".
He’s a Todd Jones-type closer who gets by on pure moxie. He’s not gonna be Papelbon/Nathan/M-Riv/K-Rod, but he’ll do a solid job of closing tight games for this season. He’s hittable, though, so every once in a while he’s gonna get tagged. I’d put his projected save rate at 80-90% and be perfectly happy with that for this season.
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by thedirkatron on Aug 9, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point in his career
I really don’t see Eddie being the old everyday Eddie. Which would be the 80-90% save rate. I’d guess he blows one in every four chances or so.
by sggut95 on Aug 9, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tonight's Lineup..
An outfield of Cat, Byrd and Ellison D:
by richardtodd on Aug 9, 2008 4:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i didnt think it could get worse than last night
oh how wrong I was.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Aug 9, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
got my threads mixed up again
woops
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on Aug 9, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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