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I hate games in Baltimore. There is no team less interesting than the Orioles, and the games start at 6 p.m., which is too early. Games that result in a 9-1 loss in Baltimore are about the worst of all.
Luis Mendoza struggled again with his command. Same story with him all year...when he can command his offspeed stuff, he has success. When he can't, he gets hammered. Jeff Wilson says injuries are contributing significantly to the Rangers' offensive problems.
In injured pitcher news, C.J. Wilson is weighing whether to have surgery now, or try to pitch with the bone spurs until after the season. Brandon McCarthy has been activated from the 60 day d.l. and optioned to Oklahoma, which puts the 40 man roster at 40. And Kevin Millwood is making a rehab start tonight for Frisco.
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Yep
They are intolerably boring to watch. Makes for a quicker change of the channel than most games.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 9, 2008 10:07 AM CDT 0 recs
Or...
you fast forward through the entire damn game because it sucked so much.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on
Aug 9, 2008 10:11 AM CDT
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Orioles
For a spell, I lived in the DC area. You are correct. What a bland, blah franchise they have become. I think Baltimore was the 6th largest city in the USA in 1900. Now? Who nows, who cares.
Go Jon D, go.
by 3Bagger on Aug 9, 2008 10:46 AM CDT 0 recs
JD's job has never been on the line in my opinion
During his tenure as GM here.
But I think for the first time this offseason his job is on the line. If we break opening day next year with ANYTHING close to this shitty of a rotation, I would really consider firing him.
Besides that he is boy band awesome.
by SaltyGoesYard on Aug 9, 2008 10:58 AM CDT 0 recs
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I've never seen a pitcher with "bone spur" issues throw 96 mph. The only spurs I'm aware of are the spurs that Wash has buried in C J's ass as he rides him. I love ya C J but welcome to Wash's DOGHOUSE.
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by LAMuscleFag on
Aug 9, 2008 11:22 AM CDT
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Depends on what is out there.
Better work like a son of a bitch to sign Sheets or Sabathia though.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on
Aug 9, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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I was reading in the New York Post today Manny wants to sign with the Yankees next year and stick it to the Sox. The Yankees are also going to go hard after CC and Teixiera with 87 million being freed up from their 2008 payroll. I’d be happy just getting Sheets.
I've never seen a pitcher with "bone spur" issues throw 96 mph. The only spurs I'm aware of are the spurs that Wash has buried in C J's ass as he rides him. I love ya C J but welcome to Wash's DOGHOUSE.
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by LAMuscleFag on
Aug 9, 2008 12:19 PM CDT
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I'd be happier than a pig in shit to get Sheets
If Millwood can stay healthy (hell, maybe by now he can’t anymore… I don’t know…) You’d be looking at Sheets (if he, too, can stay healthy), Padilla, Millwood, McCarthy, and Hurley/Feldman. If McCarthy gets his shit together this offseason, that’s should be a significant upgrade from this year.
It shouldn’t stop there though. This team needs bullpen help too…. starting with a situational lefty. Where are you, Ron Mahay!!!!!!!
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on
Aug 9, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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that'll work!
yeh Mayday Mahay…come home! Maybe we can pry him from the Royals or wherever he is.. unless he’s a FA at the end of this year, he’s getting a lit’l “long in the tooth” though.
I've never seen a pitcher with "bone spur" issues throw 96 mph. The only spurs I'm aware of are the spurs that Wash has buried in C J's ass as he rides him. I love ya C J but welcome to Wash's DOGHOUSE.
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by LAMuscleFag on
Aug 9, 2008 12:44 PM CDT
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They can only sign two of those guys
You can only sign two Type A FAs in one offseason
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Aug 9, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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what exactly do you say to Ben Sheets to convince him to come to Texas?
...if i’m his agent, i’d be pretty concerned about letting him sign with a team that can’t keep it’s pitching staff healthy.
by oc on
Aug 9, 2008 12:26 PM CDT
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Can't keep it's pitching staff healthy.....
I think that’s more a series of unfortunate events than a reflection on the training staff. Sheets could conceivably win a shitload of games in Texas based on the run support he could receive… although the defense leaves something to be desired. With the right moves, this team could be a playoff contender, which is attractive to free agents. You’re not talking about the Pirates or Nationals here. The team is a pretty close knit group, which is also a plus.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on
Aug 9, 2008 12:30 PM CDT
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(shakes head)
...i wanted to believe that we’d be able to buy him off… or at the very least persuade him that we were one dominant pitcher away from contending… that he was the final piece of the puzzle…
but, i think the heat, the poor results with our strength and condition staff, (he being injury-proned himself) and the fact that we’ll throw the bank at him out of desperation are enough convince him to look for a job elsewhere.
by oc on
Aug 9, 2008 12:36 PM CDT
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I think you're overestimating the heat
compared to other factors. If the Rangers’ offer is met by someone else, like the Yankees, Red Sox, Cardinals, Dodgers, etc, then I could see him going elsewhere. If Texas outbids everyone else, I think Sheets opportunity for personal success and the Rangers’ debatable chance of team success outweights the weather.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on
Aug 9, 2008 1:06 PM CDT
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*outweighs
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on
Aug 9, 2008 1:08 PM CDT
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Lil oc be
turning into Josey…
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
by Rodney on
Aug 9, 2008 4:42 PM CDT
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There is no way in a Hellish day in Texas
That any Star Free Agent Pitcher is going to consider signing with the Rangers because it is well known what this franchise does to pitching, it eats it alive…see Millwood, I bet he regrets signing here.
This Stadium and this Hellish heat destroys decent pitchers, only exceptional ones can survive.
So, if a pitcher wants to see his career go to Hell..See Millwoood, they may come to DFW.
The best way to fix the pitching problem, is to build a roof on the Helldome, and get rid of that wind factor altogether, and use AC. Also, people might actually consider going to games again. I remember well how my daughter would stay in the bathroom cause it had AC, and they didn’t want to go to anymore games.
by SanDiegoKev on
Aug 9, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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Funny how Atlanta
Has had great pitchers over the last 14 years and it is know as Hotlanta. Helling and Sele weren’t great pitchers but they some how pitched well here as did Rogers.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on
Aug 9, 2008 1:57 PM CDT
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Millwood
I think Millwood’s age and conditioning has more to do with his performance than anything else. The heat didn’t seem to bother Kenny Rigers.
"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch
by RangerMad on
Aug 9, 2008 2:40 PM CDT
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pitching
don’t forget Brown. He was pretty good here also. A head case but a pretty decent pitcher. I would like a roof on the Temple if not for the pitchers sake then my sake.
¡yo soy Horsedooty!
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on
Aug 9, 2008 2:48 PM CDT
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You keep alluding to Millwood
it’s well documented he was lax in the offseason training before 2007 (to put it VERY nicely) and he’s getting long in the tooth. You can’t say no free agent pitcher is going to come here just because the hellish heat destroyed a pitcher on the backside of his career. Generally, the failure of Ranger pitching is related directly to talent, not to temperature or a stadium.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on
Aug 9, 2008 4:46 PM CDT
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Sure
But there is a perception out there that Arlington Eats Pitching, and I’m sure many free agents avoid the place because of this. Certainly, if you offer enough money, anybody would come here, but it’s not Hick’s nature to overpay too often.
by SanDiegoKev on
Aug 9, 2008 8:18 PM CDT
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i know
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on
Aug 9, 2008 11:23 AM CDT
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hey, he had a good curve that one start
you know… out of 10.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on
Aug 9, 2008 11:27 AM CDT
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He has a good, sinking 93-94 mph fastball
And a good hard breaking ball. His issue is command. He should be in AAA working on his command issues.
The fact that he has been pressed into service up here, and is struggling, doesn’t mean he sucks
by Adam J. Morris on
Aug 9, 2008 11:33 AM CDT
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needs major improvement in command within 2 months of his 25th birthday to succeed
thats a pretty big obstacle.
some pitchers actually do suck. at least on the relative terms of major league baseball.
if we were just a league average pitching staff that didn’t have to start him out of necessity, mendoza would be so buried among prospects….
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on
Aug 9, 2008 11:44 AM CDT
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The thing is...
...he switched his repertoire in the middle of last season. He’s been throwing, in particular, the sinker, for only about 13 months now.
If he can improve his breaking ball command, he can be a solid major league starter. If not, he still could be an asset in the bullpen as a Jason Grimsley type.
I just find the proclamations that he sucks and he’s worthless and will never be any good pretty over the top…particularly when we’ve seen flashes of dominance from him.
by Adam J. Morris on
Aug 9, 2008 11:49 AM CDT
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A pitcher with poor control getting destroyed on a routine basis is
going to get poor reviews.
Look, anyone can like a player and see more than others in him. Give an i told you so speech if he succeeds (for more than 1 start).
But come on, a plain assessment of whats on the field is that luis mendoza sucks. It just is. He’s made 13 starts as a ranger. 1 meets the “quality start” standard. His stuff is decent with his new pitch, but its not great.
If you looked at long line of pitchers with his track record including adding a new pitch at the same age, I doubt the rate of success is much to look at. Do you really think the odds are in his favor to be in a major league rotation in 2 years? Do you think they are as good or better than the higher ranked prospects that have struggled (for less time though..) and not gotten as much critcism?
Now, the bullpen? Sure, worth a shot.
If mendoza finds his control and becomes a decent starter, its not like people will deny it. But until then, I think he sucks.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on
Aug 9, 2008 12:12 PM CDT
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2/3 right
Never said we should release him.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on
Aug 9, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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?
Never said we should release him.
I’m confused then. If he sucks, he shouldn’t be taking up space on the 25 or 40 man roster. Release him and bring up Derek Lee or someone to be a placeholder.
by Adam J. Morris on
Aug 9, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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GORDON!
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
by Steal Home on
Aug 9, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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"Now, the bullpen? Sure, worth a shot"
1) We don’t the league average pitching staff I mentioned earlier. With our injuries and available options, he probably should be in the rotation at this particular moment.
2) Sucks in the rotation, but a lot of people who have sucked in the rotation hve been decent bullpen arms. I wouldn’t be committed to him for years, but I’d give him a shot.
I don’t think my line of argument warrants sarcasm and exaggeration.
the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is
by DSheppard on
Aug 9, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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I don't think you understand
That’s all he knows.
by brettgardner on
Aug 9, 2008 3:17 PM CDT
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I agree
Hindman-esque series of replies by AJM.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
by tricer on
Aug 9, 2008 3:27 PM CDT
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hahaha
I've never seen a pitcher with "bone spur" issues throw 96 mph. The only spurs I'm aware of are the spurs that Wash has buried in C J's ass as he rides him. I love ya C J but welcome to Wash's DOGHOUSE.
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by LAMuscleFag on
Aug 9, 2008 12:57 PM CDT
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Luis Mendoza
has a 48% LOB%. The league average is around 70. That’s the reason his ERA is so high, and not around Scott FEldman’s #s right now.
He gives up too many line-drives, but is pretty good in getting ground balls. If that control comes, he’ll be a pretty good starter.
by FirebatM3 on
Aug 9, 2008 1:02 PM CDT
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It's not all about the control
If you watched yesterday, he wasn’t getting ground balls or swing and misses with his sinker… because his 4 seamer looked more like a 2 seamer, when he hasn’t been good it’s been that way… just look at the video of the sinker when he pitched in relief vs the Astros or his great game vs the White Sox, its a whole different pitch than we saw yesterday.
by tyd3311 on
Aug 9, 2008 1:11 PM CDT
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which is probably because
he doesn’t have that much experience with the sinker. 13 months and he’s throwing it in the big leagues. In a year like this you have to let young guys take their lumps and hope one or two of them figure it out.
by FirebatM3 on
Aug 9, 2008 1:14 PM CDT
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take their lumps?
hes had 10 starts this year, one quality start and all the others were just horrible its not like they were a little below average, they were all bombs
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by Steal Home on
Aug 9, 2008 1:35 PM CDT
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All the others were just horrible?
Not really. There was the 7 IP, 4 run outing that was pretty good. He had some other okay ones in there.
He’s also had some disastrous ones, but let’s not act like every single start other than the 8 K game was a bomb.
by Adam J. Morris on
Aug 9, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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well 7ip one was the only non-bomb i can think of
its not like he was dominant in that one. against the blue jays, 4 runs in 7
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by Steal Home on
Aug 9, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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would you
trade Mendoza for Galarraga? Oh, and when are his “real” numbers going to get in-line with his peripherals?
It's easy to lie with stats, it's even easier to lie without them......
by red shoe ranger on
Aug 9, 2008 8:08 PM CDT
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I don't think
Adam or anyone else here has ever said they’d choose Mendoza over Galarraga. Nor has Adam or anyone else here ever argued that Galarraga is the worst pitcher in baseball, just that his long term outlook is not as good as his number right now seem to indicate.
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
by t ball on
Aug 10, 2008 5:50 AM CDT
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1.75 whip
That is horrible. He allows entirely too many baserunners.
Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.
by tricer on
Aug 9, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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Well
FIP of 5.27, xFIP of 4.74.
That’s not great, but it suggests his pitching better than his ERA indicates.
by Adam J. Morris on
Aug 9, 2008 2:08 PM CDT
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Would that be true
of most SP that have a lousy bullpen behind them?
"An effortless 98" - Scott Gardner after Neftali Feliz's first AA pitch
by RangerMad on
Aug 9, 2008 2:42 PM CDT
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i havent seen any dominance, hes worthless
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by Steal Home on
Aug 9, 2008 1:33 PM CDT
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Kind of like most of your post
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on
Aug 9, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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wait, hes not completely worthless
he is a good high-fiveing partner for kinsler
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by Steal Home on
Aug 9, 2008 1:39 PM CDT
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Agreed
Although I think he should be in the bullpen, not the rotation.
But then again, who else are we gonna start up here? With Hurley and Millwood on the DL, we don’t really have any other options for the rotation at this point, unless you swap Mendoza for Nippert. Which sounds like a fun idea, but based on the Nippert I saw yesterday that’s not much of an improvement.
We need to hire Chuck Norris to kick the ass of any Ranger fan caught booing one of our young pitchers at the RBiA.
by lonestarJon on
Aug 9, 2008 11:45 AM CDT
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The sinker
Isn’t the same sinker we saw in relief vs the Astros, and also another appearance….
Sometimes the sinker looks great, but in his last two really bad starts, I could see he was doomed because the sinker didn’t look like the same sinker at all.
by tyd3311 on
Aug 9, 2008 1:01 PM CDT
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he should be released
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by Steal Home on
Aug 9, 2008 1:31 PM CDT
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So if JD releases him
and he goes some where else and gets it together you will bitch about how stupid JD was for releasing him.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
by boomer1 on
Aug 9, 2008 1:39 PM CDT
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no i wouldnt because he will never have success anywhere
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by Steal Home on
Aug 9, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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It would be pretty hard to imagine
Galarraga going on to be an above avreage major league starter when the season started, would it have not?
"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08
by badradiorules on
Aug 9, 2008 1:47 PM CDT
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he had no where near mendoza's number of bad outings
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by Steal Home on
Aug 9, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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i think he was talkin about galarraga's starts from last year
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by Steal Home on
Aug 9, 2008 1:50 PM CDT
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in which he had one
Mendoza had 3 with an ERA of 2.25
by tyd3311 on
Aug 9, 2008 1:54 PM CDT
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he is tryin to make the point that armando had bad starts like mendoza
when that never happened. mendoza has had horrible ones and armando only had one
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by Steal Home on
Aug 9, 2008 2:57 PM CDT
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We are talking about
coming into this year….................................................................
by tyd3311 on
Aug 9, 2008 4:01 PM CDT
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ok
why not just keep both mendoza and galarraga instead of trading galarraga for hernandez who isnt even in our system
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by Steal Home on
Aug 9, 2008 5:54 PM CDT
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and one of those starts, he left in the second inning...
...after Swisher hit a liner right back at him.
by oc on
Aug 9, 2008 3:47 PM CDT
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I still don't think Galarraga...
....is an above-average major league starter.
He’s a 26 year old journeyman who has had a nice run, thanks to an exceedingly low BABIP.
by Adam J. Morris on
Aug 9, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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Either way
He’s BEEN an above-average major league starter. I don’t think that anybody who watched him last year would have believed it. I think that Mendoza showed better stuff down the stretch last year. If you think dropping Galarraga was a bad idea, then you shouldn’t think that DFAing Mendoza is a good idea.
"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08
by badradiorules on
Aug 9, 2008 2:01 PM CDT
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i don't understand how Mendoza went from being a 'meh' Double-A prospect to being a legit Major League starter...
by oc on
Aug 9, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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It had a lot to do
with him developing that sinker about 10 starts into last year. He opened some eyes with the success that he had with it. It obviously hasn’t been nearly consistent enough this year. However, I remember it being really good last September.
"So you think the Celtics will beat Detroit? Hell will freeze over before that happens, mark my words." miles 5/20/08
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