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OT: Little Ike.

So this is supposed to impact AJM and co in Houston and might impact the metroplex? 

Prediction: We get an inch or two max in Dallas and Ft. Worth and the same goes for Houston. Meteorologists don't know jack. I just find it funny that the Astros are fighting their way into the playoff picture and a Hurricane is approaching Houston. God must be a Ranger fan. EOM. 211330w_sm_medium

via www.nhc.noaa.gov

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rain Rain Go Away.

Come again some other day.

We want to go outside and play.

Rain Rain Go Away.

Come again some other day.

 

 

 

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Coming from somebody who is living in NOLA now

after living in DFW for the last 10 years. I can’t say I’ve ever been happier to see a hurricane head towards Texas. Sorry for all yall in Texas.

by hurley325 on Sep 10, 2008 11:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Keep the floaties close by

As for the prediction of an “inch or two” in Houston, I’ll take the way over on that one.

by RangersOCD on Sep 10, 2008 11:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you....

…the Sharky of Meteorology?

by Black Francis on Sep 11, 2008 1:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There's something to be said for this.

Every “Phil” I’ve ever met in my life has been borderline retarded.

by oc on Sep 11, 2008 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hot Katrinas do exist

I knew of one in high school. Oh, man.

Well I’m not a meteorologist but I can say that we’re likely going to have far more than 1-2 inches in most places. And if a damned hurricane hits just west of HOU, I think it’s pretty safe to say they’re going to have more than 2-4. I mean, it’s a hurricane. Not a summertime thunderstorm.

The latest track I saw has the eye ending up just a little east of Dallas, and if I’m not mistaken the left side is the wet side on hurricanes. They’re saying it could still be a tropical storm when it gets all the way up here.

by Black Francis on Sep 11, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know one with nice cans

Not bad looking. But I’m too focused on the cans.

I am the motherfucking shore patrol, motherfucker! I am the motherfucking shore patrol! Give this man a beer.

by TheBZA on Sep 11, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of Katrina

anyone ever hear the Black Lips’ “O Katrina”?

Sweet ass song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N89g9ZqjvYc

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by willamos2 on Sep 11, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only Katrina I met was in High School...

and she was banging. So much for that theory huh?

by slimshadty12 on Sep 11, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're

all liars. Katrina is a fat name. Insert robot Greggo, “That theory can not be proven.” BTW latest track has it totally missing DFW. Not so much for Houston.

by AirJordan on Sep 11, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tyler

looks like a bad place to be for rain this weekend.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Sep 11, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never met her

but Katrina Kaif is pretty hot.

he’s still hitting better than Saltalasuckia—while playing vastly superior defense...Athos

by Escher on Sep 12, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

all you did was google 'Katrina' and images, eh...?

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by Longhorn on Sep 12, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

God bless those Google boys.

he’s still hitting better than Saltalasuckia—while playing vastly superior defense...Athos

by Escher on Sep 12, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm experiencing

a surge.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Sep 12, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can really see

a huge eye of her hurricane there.

Offense doesn't doubt me, but my first and primemost thing is defense and punt return and kickoff return

by Brett Perryman on Sep 12, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahahaha

You sure can. Didn’t even notice till you mentioned it.

by Fooster7 on Sep 12, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right purple nipple alert.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 12, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great

updated model has it going right over katy, just great…

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by Longhorn on Sep 11, 2008 7:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Punishment for Tom DeLay?

No, I’m kidding. Stay safe down there.

by Black Francis on Sep 11, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sugarland

not Katy

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by willamos2 on Sep 11, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully it shifts again.

I saw one wild assed track that still showed it going into Lousiana. C’mon! Lets bomb NO again!

"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky

by DJCahill on Sep 11, 2008 8:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

for those in Houston, where do you guys live?

I’m on the north side in Spring. I’m thinking we should be ok…we’re definitely not leaving after the Rita fiasco.

Plus, my wife is due in 10 days…trekking across the state just isn’t going to work.

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by willamos2 on Sep 11, 2008 8:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

plus, we live in a relatively new neighborhood (6 years)

with no big trees that can cause any damage. And we’re not in a flood zone either.

Hopefully, all you Houston boardies come out with no damages (or worse).

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by willamos2 on Sep 11, 2008 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ike

This ones gonna be a bad one I believe. We are on alert and supposed to be flying down there on Sunday to help any of the idiots who didn’t heed the evacuation warnings. Galveston may not be here when we wake up on Sunday if the storm surge is what they expect.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Sep 11, 2008 10:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you

an emergency responder of some sort? Best of luck, if so.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Sep 11, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

National Guard

On active duty right now over here in Grand Prairie. I am attached to a unit that helps the Singapore Air Force. We have Chinook helicopters. They went down after Katrina and we’ve been asked to help out now. We’re flying down probably on Sunday or maybe Monday

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Sep 11, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Educational response

Not that AirJordan is interested in learning, but maybe others are.

“meteorologists don’t know jack”… Well, the National Hurricane Center forecast cone for landfall locations is a statement by meteorologists of the uncertainty in the forecast, ie what they believe they can’t tell you. It might not hit Houston. Houston might get less than an inch of rain. That would not mean the forecast was poor. In fact, that scenario is contained with the range of scenarios in the forecast.

What’s frustrating is that the precision of hurricane forecasts in most cases can’t reach a point that the likelihood is better than 80% for landfall at a location the size of a large city until it is too late to get everyone out of the way. Is that the meteorologists problem or an infrastructure problem?

Not offended. Not trying to flame back. Trying to bring up thoughtful information.

I’m a bit surprised only 7500 national guard are on call. Do they have more available? Seems like they may need double that number if Houston gets hit.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Sep 11, 2008 12:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

National Guard

most are in Iraq right now. I don’t know exactly what unti they are but I am stationed over here in GP and the unit next door to us deployed last month.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Sep 11, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the part that interests me.

Some of these tracks are giveups. XTRP. Really? A straight line projection, that doesn’t take pressure fields into account? Whats the point? Personally, I’m hoping CLP5 model is right.

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by DJCahill on Sep 11, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back in the day, xtrp is all they really had.

Lots to talk about on that plot.

Unfortunately CLP5 is probably the least likely path. It’s a model that uses a blend of a climatological (meaning average track taken over all past hurricanes) with a short period of linear extrapolation. The other models are indicating the curvature of this hurricane won’t be much like the average of all previous hurricanes.

The forecast cone goes from the southern model, a dark green line, to halfway between the CLP5 and the light green line. The dark and light green lines are empirical models that use winds averaged through different layers. The idea is that a strong hurricane is pushed around by a different layer of wind than a week hurricane. BAMD (dark green line) is the trajectory forecast for a strong hurricane.

The weather prediction models have a much smaller range for landfall. The central track from the forecast center (thick red line with red dots) splits the difference between the forecast from the highest resolution model available (HWRF) and the average of 20 coarse resolution model forecasts (AEMN), both of which are from the US National Center for Environmental Prediction. I think the odds are much higher near the center track than near the edges of the cone. That’s not always the case but appears to be so for IKE.

FWIW, the Navy weather prediction model and the average wind model assuming a moderate hurricane take the track right over Houston.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Sep 11, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

strong vs. weak track

Are you saying that a weaker hurricane might tend to be pushed more easily by the prevailing weather patterns than a strong one? Meaning that, in most cases, a strong hurricane would be less likely to have a track in the eastern portion of the cone than a weak one?

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Sep 11, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sort of. It's more about direction than speed, though.

The model they use assumes weak cyclones are shallow and pushed around by the low-level winds and strong cyclones are deep and pushed around by winds averaged throughout the entire depth of the atmosphere (troposphere to be exact).

In this case the low-level winds are from the south near the coastline and from the upper-level winds are from the northwest near the coastline. In this situation, the low-level winds happen to be stronger than the upper-level winds. So, the weak cyclone model gives the hurricane a big shove northward. Since the winds at low and high levels are opposite, they tend to add to nearly zero in the strong cyclone model, and the track in the cyclone model is controlled by the rotation of the earth via the coriolis force (so-called beta-effect), which is why the strong cyclone drifts northward even though steering winds are near zero.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Sep 11, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

seems like most of the places around here are out of gas…i did see one place selling it for over 4 bucks per…

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by Longhorn on Sep 11, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the place I filled up at

only had Super Premium.

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by DJCahill on Sep 11, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i filled up today in Spring for around 3.45 per

i heard that the further South you go, the less gas there is.

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by willamos2 on Sep 11, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It is the sheer size of this storm

that is so troubling, and if it does hot cat 4 as they say it could, being 500 miles in dia. could make it a Texas Killer to be sure, lets all hope it weakens and peters out, because if it does what some are saying Texas could be hit very hard with many deaths and major property damage. i am in waco and have been since 1972 and i can’t remember a storm of this size heading for us in central texas, even the DFW area could take a hit, rain and tornadoes, the I35 hotels and motels in waco are already starting to fill up according to local news.

by TRFAN on Sep 11, 2008 2:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ike

Its not the sheer size its the storm surge that is the biggest problem. There are reports already that bouys are showing 29 feet surge and that will only get bigger once this thing hits the continental shelf. There are theories out there that this sorms surge will be bigger than Katrina and Carla.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Sep 11, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to go to Temple tomorrow afternoon

…for some medical shit.

Is I35 really clogged up on the northbound side? If so do you think it will be by tomorrow night?

by Black Francis on Sep 11, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Q:

My DirecTV dish is secured pretty good to a pole outside…should I take it down or will it hold? I believe we’ll get 75+mph winds around here…

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by Longhorn on Sep 11, 2008 4:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mine is just on my roof (not sure how well it's secured)

and we had 75-100 mph winds earlier this summer and it held. But it’s your call on whether you take it down or not.

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by baseballismyboyfriend on Sep 11, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn

http://www.stormpulse.com/

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by Longhorn on Sep 11, 2008 4:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd go ahead

and take down that satellite dish. Best of luck.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Sep 11, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya'll stay safe down there.

Err on the side of caution, please.

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by ghtd36 on Sep 11, 2008 4:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

From the weather service:
Discussion…
infrared satellite depicts Hurricane Ike as a large sprawling category 2
system. Ike is currently moving over slightly cooler waters and
may not strengthen much if any before landfall. This would be good
news for much of the Texas coast as Ike will pose a significant
threat whether it strengthens or not. The official track has Ike
making landfall near Galveston early Saturday morning…then takes
it on a north northeast track to near Houston…Palestine…and
then Canton by Sunday morning. The remnants of Ike are then
carried off quickly into the mean flow as a middle-latitude cyclone
swings across the northern plains.


We have issued a tropical storm wind watch as well as a Flash
Flood Watch for portions of North Texas this weekend as Ike
impacts the area. Based on the size of the storm and our recent
experience with Gustav (which created significant gusty winds far
from its center) the tropical storm watch is large and runs from
Jacksboro…to Stephenville…to Killeen and eastward. These areas
could have sustained winds of 39 miles per hour or more with the highest
sustained winds expected along a line from Paris to Palestine…or
near the center of the storm. Also due to the size of the storm…
tropical storm force winds will be felt 6-9 hours earlier across our
southern counties as opposed to the northern portion of the watch.
A small area from Cameron to Palestine may even attain sustained
hurricane force winds for a short time Saturday morning…possibly
necessitating an upgrade to a Hurricane Watch or warning if these
winds appear likely.


The hurricane center guidance continues to nudge the storm track
as well as the threat for flooding a little farther east with each
run. Based on this trend we feel confident limiting the Flash
Flood Watch to areas east of a line from Sherman…to Kaufman…to
Cameron. Widespread two to four inches with isolated higher
amounts will be possible in these areas Saturday evening and
Sunday. The tropical tornado threat also continues to lessen as
the center of Ike stays to our east. This will continue to be an
isolated risk in our far eastern counties.

by Black Francis on Sep 11, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

From the Galveston NWS

“All neighborhoods… and possibly entire coastal communities… will be inundated during high tide. Persons not heeding evacuation orders in single family one or two story homes will face certain death. Many residences of average construction directly on the coast will be destroyed. Widespread and devastating personal property damage is likely elsewhere. Vehicles left behind will likely be swept away. Numerous roads will be swamped… some may be washed away by the water. Entire flood prone coastal communities will be cutoff. Water levels may exceed 9 feet for more than a mile inland. Coastal residents in multi-story facilities risk being cutoff. Conditions will be worsened by battering waves. Such waves will exacerbate property damage… with massive destruction of homes… including those of block construction. Damage from beach erosion could take years to repair.”

Do NOT let the relatively low sustained wind speed of 100 mph deceive you. This is an extremely dangerous hurricane. This storm is actually higher in terms of IKE (Integrated Kinetic Energy) than Katrina by a decent margin, with a potentially devastating storm surge that could conceivably breach the sea wall in Galveston.

Those of us further inland are not in such imminent danger, but this storm isn’t likely to lose much steam until it nears the NE TX border. DFW will most definitely feel the effects because of this storm’s width, but it shouldn’t become a life-threatening situation.

by Joey Matschulat on Sep 11, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

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"Maybe congress should take more vacations, whenever these people leave town, things just seem to get better..." - Jay Leno

by Longhorn on Sep 11, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn

“If you don’t get out, you will die” That’s never good to hear.

by AirJordan on Sep 11, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

Glad I evacuated from Galveston… but talking to people in my class 60-70% of the people living on the east side WON’T be leaving.

I sure hope I have an apartment when I go back, and I guess it would be nice if the school was still there as well.

by TRanger on Sep 11, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is not going to be good for Galveston

Galveston may be no more when we wake up Sunday morning….

by TxStCa on Sep 11, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Galveston

The sea wall has never been breached or overtopped. Ive read articles that put the chance at it happening at 10% with Ike. That seawall gets topped and we can kiss Galveston goodbye

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Sep 11, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just evacuated from Galveston this morning

…and judging from talking to my classmates, most of them are staying put. No one I know seems to be taking this thing seriously, they’re all more worried about exams next week than Ike. Just in case you think the people I know are different then the average Galvestonian, the traffic while I evacuated was minimal. (I took the hurricane evacation route and avoided Houston… but there was still so little traffic I was able to go 70-75 all the way through aside from the small towns) To put things in perspective this morning there were more people going into Galveston on the causeway then coming out of it.

Evidently Rita being a complete dud has just made everybody down here pretty indifferent to a hurricane threat. Since nobody on the east side is leaving, if these predictions about the surge breaching the sea wall comes true I guarantee there will be a lot of lives lost in Galveston.

…man I hope these predictions are wrong.

by TRanger on Sep 11, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully

since this morning all of the weather reports have caused some of them to wake up to the danger. You were smart to leave. I hope you have a place to live after the weekend.

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Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Sep 11, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Friday 1 am update from the FWST

Forecasters warn of deadly storm surge from Hurricane Ike
As Hurricane Ike bore down on the Texas coast late Thursday and early Friday, the National Weather Service was sounding the alarm over a potentially catastrophic impact, warning residents in low-lying coastal areas to get out or face “certain death” from the storm surge.
About 11 million people live in the potential impact zone, and almost 1 million have evacuated.
Ike is expected to come ashore late Friday or early Saturday and appears headed toward Houston. “I cannot overemphasize the danger that is facing us,” Gov. Rick Perry said.
Hurricane Ike is following a track similar to the 1900 Galveston hurricane that killed more than 6,000 people, the deadliest storm in U.S. history.
The U.S. weather center’s forecasters said Ike may strengthen to at least a major hurricane with Category 3 intensity, meaning sustained winds of at least 111 mph, before it makes landfall. Other forecasters predict Ike may become a Category 4 storm, the second-strongest on the five-step Saffir- Simpson scale, packing winds from 131 to 155 mph.
——————————
YIKES !!!!!!!!!

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by Ed Coffin on Sep 12, 2008 1:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

'certain death'

what a load of crap. the seawall in galveston has never been breached. comparing it to 1900 is ridiculous. they didn’t have satelites or anything. basically you just heard a storm blowing in, go outside to check it, you know ‘hey honey get a picture of me riding this wave aaahhhhhhhhHHHHHHH IM DEAD!" its not another katrina either, the only reason that was such a disaster because new orleans’ flood protection system failed in every way imaginable. i can understand leaving to be cautious but if you stay and board up there is like a 99.9999999% chance you are going to be fine. hurricane andrew was WAY more powerful than this storm is going to be and it only caused 65 deaths. 65, when you think about it that is nothing, thats all homeless people and idiots who go outside to take pictures and what not.

by selppuc on Sep 12, 2008 3:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Its not just the strength of the storm that matters,

its location also matters. Right now, most tracks have this one going pretty much right at downtown Galveston and Houston. Hopefully its direction changes.

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by DJCahill on Sep 12, 2008 3:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um

Do you need to be reminded what prophetic statement the NWS issued before Katrina struck?

HURRICANE KATRINA…A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH…RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS…PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL…LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.


THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE…INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY…A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD…AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS…PETS…AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS…AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING…BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE KILLED.

The NWS doesn’t really have a penchant for overblowing life-threatening storms. Also, the “certain death” proclamation refers to those NOT protected by the seawall.

by Joey Matschulat on Sep 12, 2008 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That statement is exactly what I thought of

When I got the breaking news alert in my email about the one issued yesterday.

We’re in Dallas, but we did do our grocery shopping last night (instead of tonight) and topped up the spousal unit’s car last night and mine this morning. (interesting to note also that the gas price at the station we both used went up eight cents overnight)

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by lisa w on Sep 12, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love

That people respect expert opinion in so many fields, yet never when it comes to weather. Having taken a class on the subject—an intro one at that—I can assure you that it’s no random guessing game.

Also, Wedding Crashers is a terrible movie, and does not need to be quoted.

Double also, your capacity for caring is amazing.

by brettgardner on Sep 12, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, the government is very reactive. Katrina sparked a great deal of interest

by NOAA management in improving the services of the hurricane center. This year they’ve allocated an increase of $17M for hurricane forecast improvements. I’m not sure how they’ll get the money since the budget has been on continuing resolution for 4 years and without new money it’s difficult to start new projects. I would assume this storm is going to continue to keep the funding stream deep, and it might even deepen it.

Nevertheless, one cool thing that has been developed over the past year is a model that models both the hurricane and the response of waves around the hurricane. This affects the intensity of the hurricane as there is some threshold of wave activity that greatly increases friction on the low-level wind (It also includes ocean surface temperature variations). On the track plots above, that model is the HWRF. I don’t know if the national hurricane center is using that information for guidance on maximum wave height or storm surge, but I do know their center track forecasts have followed closely the HWRF track. The hurricane intensity forecasts should be improved by the use of this model, but it is experimental and unfamiliar to the forecasters, and I don’t know how closely they consult the intensity forecasts.

Also, a new program for making targeted observations, which means observations at strategic locations and times, is being tested this year. Think Hurricane Hunters but with more observations being taken throughout the storm. I believe that data is being incorporated into HWRF initial conditions.

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Sep 12, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you bash wedding crashers?

sad day lol

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by knockoutking on Sep 12, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What kind of asshole

belittles the significance of even one person dying, let alone 65? And why on earth would you expect the weather service to err on the side of being cavalier with people’s life and property? Even with all the politics talk here lately, this ranks as the most asinine comment in recent memory on LSB.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Sep 12, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CNN bullet point on Ike

‘Forecasters warn Ike may bring “certain death”’

Did John Kerry write this?

Go Rangers!

by rooster on Sep 12, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Houston TV streams – toggle the mute buttons to keep your sanity

by shroomer on Sep 12, 2008 11:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The original message

Seems awfully inappropriate now.

by TRanger on Sep 12, 2008 6:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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